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Seeking: Willie PRIMHAK (England)and Tillie COHEN #general

Jane Peppler <jpeppler@...>
 

Hello,

In seeking living descendants of Israel Ber (Berel) Finklestein Cohen
and wife Tatzy, I am tracking a Willie PRIMHAK who married Tillie Cohen
and ran a pub in North London. They would have been born around the
beginning of this century. Truly hoping to uncover some of their
descendants.

Thanks,
Jane Peppler

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking: Willie PRIMHAK (England)and Tillie COHEN #general

Jane Peppler <jpeppler@...>
 

Hello,

In seeking living descendants of Israel Ber (Berel) Finklestein Cohen
and wife Tatzy, I am tracking a Willie PRIMHAK who married Tillie Cohen
and ran a pub in North London. They would have been born around the
beginning of this century. Truly hoping to uncover some of their
descendants.

Thanks,
Jane Peppler

MODERATOR NOTE: For research in the United Kingdom,
please also consider subscribing to the JCR-UK
Special Interest Group.
http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm
Naming after the Living #general

Dov & Varda <yknow@...>
 

Lauren Strauss-Jones wrote: "My great grandfather was divorced >from his
first wife, Sarah, and
re-married. When his first daughter with his new wife was born, she was
named Sarah, too.

Is this a rotten thing to do ?"

Actually, no. It's very likely that Sarah 2 was named after a different,
albeit deceased Sarah.

I had a similar problem, naming my children after their paternal relatives
when I had siblings with the same name. There is no problem with this, but I
asked my siblings permission, explaining the situation, to be polite. They
were thrilled.

Think of it this way...I have 12 children, and there are only so many family
names to use. The patriarchal and matriarchal names are very common for
Jews. If one wants to follow the tradition of naming after the deceased,
they limit the number of available names.

Varda Epstein
Efrat
Israel
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Naming after the Living #general

Dov & Varda <yknow@...>
 

Lauren Strauss-Jones wrote: "My great grandfather was divorced >from his
first wife, Sarah, and
re-married. When his first daughter with his new wife was born, she was
named Sarah, too.

Is this a rotten thing to do ?"

Actually, no. It's very likely that Sarah 2 was named after a different,
albeit deceased Sarah.

I had a similar problem, naming my children after their paternal relatives
when I had siblings with the same name. There is no problem with this, but I
asked my siblings permission, explaining the situation, to be polite. They
were thrilled.

Think of it this way...I have 12 children, and there are only so many family
names to use. The patriarchal and matriarchal names are very common for
Jews. If one wants to follow the tradition of naming after the deceased,
they limit the number of available names.

Varda Epstein
Efrat
Israel
Detroit Cemetery Look-ups #general

Vivian308@...
 

Is there anyone in Detroit who can get to Workman's Circle
and Machpelah cemeteries and either take photos,
or read the Hebrew inscriptions for me?
I have the Section, Lot, and Grave numbers.
The cemetery caretaker was helpful when I first
contacted her in September, and told me that she
would send photos, but I have never received them,
and I haven't been able to reach her since then.

Please contact me privately and I will
give you the information.

Thank you very much for your help.

Vivian Finkelstein
Chicago, Illinois USA
Vivian308@...

Searching: PASEMANIK (PASSMAN); Vilna to Chicago and Detroit
LEVIN, LEVINE; Lutzin, Latvia to Chicago and Los
Angeles
CHATZANSKY (CHECANSKY) Kiev to Chicago
SELESNICK (ZELESNICK); Lithuania to Chicago,
Detroit, and California
Re: Naming after the living #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 1/15/2003 10:15:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
DanielGee@... writes:

<< as I understand it. It is traditional to name a baby after a deceased
relative, but to
reconsider if a relation with that name is alive. >>
==That is a common misunderstanding. It is common to give a child a name by
which to keep the memory of the deceased among the living. Among Ashkenazim
in general, one doesn't call a child "after" a living ancestor. However,
there is NO qualm about giving many children (cousins etc) the same name,
either after the same ancestor or a different ancestor.

==There is a custom that it is improper for a person to utter the name of a
parent or grandparent. Thus, if my father Isaac is alive, I might hesitate
to call my child Isaac after my wife's deceased father of the same name.

==I might even hesitate to marry a woman named Sarah if my mother Sarah is
alive; if I'm not that rigid about things, I might call my son by the variant
Itzik or Eysig, and my wife Sorke or Sarai.

==Essentially, "calling after" is a special honor for one deceased; there is
no rule against naming many people in the extended family by the same name,
either because they're commemorating the same ancestor, or because they're
commemorating different ancestors, or because it's a name that my wife and I
happen to like..

==The critical point is "naming after." Nothing wrong with just "naming."

Michael Bernet New York
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Detroit Cemetery Look-ups #general

Vivian308@...
 

Is there anyone in Detroit who can get to Workman's Circle
and Machpelah cemeteries and either take photos,
or read the Hebrew inscriptions for me?
I have the Section, Lot, and Grave numbers.
The cemetery caretaker was helpful when I first
contacted her in September, and told me that she
would send photos, but I have never received them,
and I haven't been able to reach her since then.

Please contact me privately and I will
give you the information.

Thank you very much for your help.

Vivian Finkelstein
Chicago, Illinois USA
Vivian308@...

Searching: PASEMANIK (PASSMAN); Vilna to Chicago and Detroit
LEVIN, LEVINE; Lutzin, Latvia to Chicago and Los
Angeles
CHATZANSKY (CHECANSKY) Kiev to Chicago
SELESNICK (ZELESNICK); Lithuania to Chicago,
Detroit, and California
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Naming after the living #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 1/15/2003 10:15:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
DanielGee@... writes:

<< as I understand it. It is traditional to name a baby after a deceased
relative, but to
reconsider if a relation with that name is alive. >>
==That is a common misunderstanding. It is common to give a child a name by
which to keep the memory of the deceased among the living. Among Ashkenazim
in general, one doesn't call a child "after" a living ancestor. However,
there is NO qualm about giving many children (cousins etc) the same name,
either after the same ancestor or a different ancestor.

==There is a custom that it is improper for a person to utter the name of a
parent or grandparent. Thus, if my father Isaac is alive, I might hesitate
to call my child Isaac after my wife's deceased father of the same name.

==I might even hesitate to marry a woman named Sarah if my mother Sarah is
alive; if I'm not that rigid about things, I might call my son by the variant
Itzik or Eysig, and my wife Sorke or Sarai.

==Essentially, "calling after" is a special honor for one deceased; there is
no rule against naming many people in the extended family by the same name,
either because they're commemorating the same ancestor, or because they're
commemorating different ancestors, or because it's a name that my wife and I
happen to like..

==The critical point is "naming after." Nothing wrong with just "naming."

Michael Bernet New York
VM 2081 #general

Josh Brown <gettysburg63@...>
 

Dear List,

I'm hoping that someone on the list who speaks Hebrew could help me
translate the gravestone of my ggguncle ITZCHAK BARON. He was killed during
a pogrom in Dusetos, Lithuania in 1905. The photo is located here:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2081

Thanks for any help,
Josh Brown
Los Angeles, CA

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses please
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VM 2081 #general

Josh Brown <gettysburg63@...>
 

Dear List,

I'm hoping that someone on the list who speaks Hebrew could help me
translate the gravestone of my ggguncle ITZCHAK BARON. He was killed during
a pogrom in Dusetos, Lithuania in 1905. The photo is located here:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2081

Thanks for any help,
Josh Brown
Los Angeles, CA

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses please
Re: New York Jewish Press #rabbinic

Larry Tauber <Ltauber@...>
 

Dear RavSiggers:

Since I haven't received any objections, I will continue with my
weekly report on the Jewish Press Machberes column for those who don't
have access to it. This week's column reports on the passing of Rabbi
Aaron Zvi LANDAU (1927-2003), the Veretzkyer Rav of Flatbush. Rabbi
LANDAU, who was born in Veretksy, Hungary, was the son of Rabbi
Yechezkel Shraga LANDAU (1902-1907), son of Rabbi Yitzchak Mayer, who
died in the Holocaust in 1944), a rabbinical court judge in Yassin and
Neitra. Rabbi Yechezkel Shraga LANDAU married his cousin, Chaya
Dreizel LANDAU (1905-1984), the daughter of Rabbi Shalom Noah LANDAU.
Rabbi Shalom Noah LANDAU and Rabbi Yitzchak Mayer LANDAU were the sons
of Rabbi Moshe Dov LANDAU (d. 1899).

Rabbi Aaron Zvi Landau married Shprintza, the daughter of Rabbi
Yechiel Mechel BRANDWEIN (1871-1939), the Turka-Streitiner rebbe. He
was the son of Rabbi Aaron BRANDWEIN (1842-1906), a student of the
Ruzhiner rebbe, Rabbi Yisrael FRIEDMAN, and son of Rabbi Zvi Aryeh
BRANDWEIN (d. 1883 Safed). A number of the members of the BRANDWEIN
family are mentioned in Neil Rosenstein's "The Unbroken Chain."

The chain of Torah did not end with the passing of Rabbi LANDAU. His
children include: Rabbi Yitzchak Mayer LANDAU, Rabbi Yechiel LANDAU,
Frumi BLEIER, who married Rabbi Binyamin BLEIER, Tzurel, who married
Rabbi Yitzchak BROWN, Leah, who married Rabbi Aryeh WALD, and the new
Verektsky rebbe, Rabbi Shalom Noah, who married Esther, the daughter
of Rabbi Mordechai Dov TWERSKI (1925-1998), son of Yaakov Yisrael
TWERSKI (1898-1973). I believe that this branch of the TWERSKI family
is also covered in "The Unbroken Chain" and is distantly related to
the Skverer rebbe mentioned last week.

May Rabbi LANDAU's memory be a blessing for all of Israel.

I received a private inquiry regarding last week's column as to
information concerning the town of Skvira. If you have any thoughts,
please e-mailto:Ljbisel@...

In addition to the Machberes column, this Week's Jewish Presss contains
a full page history of the Jews of Ireland, listing the name of several
rabbis, Jewish lord mayors, and community leaders. There is also a
weekly column on Poland (entitled Po-Lin) which this weeks recounts the
history of the Jewish community of Chelm.

To think some people I know say they only get the Jewish Press for the
ads! (This paper should really pay me an advertising fee).

Shabbat Shalom.

Larry Tauber

[Moderator's Note: Many of the articles are directly available at their
website http://www.jewishpress.com Unfortunately, the Machberes column
is not.]
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: New York Jewish Press #rabbinic

Larry Tauber <Ltauber@...>
 

Dear RavSiggers:

Since I haven't received any objections, I will continue with my
weekly report on the Jewish Press Machberes column for those who don't
have access to it. This week's column reports on the passing of Rabbi
Aaron Zvi LANDAU (1927-2003), the Veretzkyer Rav of Flatbush. Rabbi
LANDAU, who was born in Veretksy, Hungary, was the son of Rabbi
Yechezkel Shraga LANDAU (1902-1907), son of Rabbi Yitzchak Mayer, who
died in the Holocaust in 1944), a rabbinical court judge in Yassin and
Neitra. Rabbi Yechezkel Shraga LANDAU married his cousin, Chaya
Dreizel LANDAU (1905-1984), the daughter of Rabbi Shalom Noah LANDAU.
Rabbi Shalom Noah LANDAU and Rabbi Yitzchak Mayer LANDAU were the sons
of Rabbi Moshe Dov LANDAU (d. 1899).

Rabbi Aaron Zvi Landau married Shprintza, the daughter of Rabbi
Yechiel Mechel BRANDWEIN (1871-1939), the Turka-Streitiner rebbe. He
was the son of Rabbi Aaron BRANDWEIN (1842-1906), a student of the
Ruzhiner rebbe, Rabbi Yisrael FRIEDMAN, and son of Rabbi Zvi Aryeh
BRANDWEIN (d. 1883 Safed). A number of the members of the BRANDWEIN
family are mentioned in Neil Rosenstein's "The Unbroken Chain."

The chain of Torah did not end with the passing of Rabbi LANDAU. His
children include: Rabbi Yitzchak Mayer LANDAU, Rabbi Yechiel LANDAU,
Frumi BLEIER, who married Rabbi Binyamin BLEIER, Tzurel, who married
Rabbi Yitzchak BROWN, Leah, who married Rabbi Aryeh WALD, and the new
Verektsky rebbe, Rabbi Shalom Noah, who married Esther, the daughter
of Rabbi Mordechai Dov TWERSKI (1925-1998), son of Yaakov Yisrael
TWERSKI (1898-1973). I believe that this branch of the TWERSKI family
is also covered in "The Unbroken Chain" and is distantly related to
the Skverer rebbe mentioned last week.

May Rabbi LANDAU's memory be a blessing for all of Israel.

I received a private inquiry regarding last week's column as to
information concerning the town of Skvira. If you have any thoughts,
please e-mailto:Ljbisel@...

In addition to the Machberes column, this Week's Jewish Presss contains
a full page history of the Jews of Ireland, listing the name of several
rabbis, Jewish lord mayors, and community leaders. There is also a
weekly column on Poland (entitled Po-Lin) which this weeks recounts the
history of the Jewish community of Chelm.

To think some people I know say they only get the Jewish Press for the
ads! (This paper should really pay me an advertising fee).

Shabbat Shalom.

Larry Tauber

[Moderator's Note: Many of the articles are directly available at their
website http://www.jewishpress.com Unfortunately, the Machberes column
is not.]
restoration of Joniskis synagogues #lithuania

Joe M <joe-mankowitz@...>
 

My daughter & I had a most rewarding trip to Joniskis in September. We
uncovered the grave of my paternal grandfather, Michal Mankovich, & were
hosted on an informative tour of Jewish Joniskis by members of the Town
Council (this agricultural town has a population of 12,000).

We cannot praise the town Hall officials highly enough for the hospitality & the information that they were able to pass on to us. They also gave us a fascinating essay / dissertation by a local schoolteacher on the history of the Jews in Joniskis & Zagare regions. A translation of this document

We also found out there is a project underway to restore the Joniskis synagogues. More details can be found at <http://www.litjews.org/> . I'm not sure how to proceed with this, so will be guided by the response I receive to this email

Joe Mankowitz

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.
Re: Berliner #lithuania

martha <martha@...>
 

There are even two Berlins in Latvia! Today, one of them is called
Berlinas [with a cedilla under the "n"] in the community of
Gaujienas. The other one was in the community of Rigranden and is
today called Berlini [with a cedilla under the "n"] in the Nigrandes
community.

Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Ph.D.
President, SIG Latvia
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania restoration of Joniskis synagogues #lithuania

Joe M <joe-mankowitz@...>
 

My daughter & I had a most rewarding trip to Joniskis in September. We
uncovered the grave of my paternal grandfather, Michal Mankovich, & were
hosted on an informative tour of Jewish Joniskis by members of the Town
Council (this agricultural town has a population of 12,000).

We cannot praise the town Hall officials highly enough for the hospitality & the information that they were able to pass on to us. They also gave us a fascinating essay / dissertation by a local schoolteacher on the history of the Jews in Joniskis & Zagare regions. A translation of this document

We also found out there is a project underway to restore the Joniskis synagogues. More details can be found at <http://www.litjews.org/> . I'm not sure how to proceed with this, so will be guided by the response I receive to this email

Joe Mankowitz

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Berliner #lithuania

martha <martha@...>
 

There are even two Berlins in Latvia! Today, one of them is called
Berlinas [with a cedilla under the "n"] in the community of
Gaujienas. The other one was in the community of Rigranden and is
today called Berlini [with a cedilla under the "n"] in the Nigrandes
community.

Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Ph.D.
President, SIG Latvia
BERGMANN family...and a GUTTMANN or two. #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

My ancestor Jakob SELIGMANN of Ichenhausen married Gietl BERGMANN. One of
their children Klara SELIGMANN married Lazarus BERGMANN and she had 5
children. Some details of this family are given below:

1. Gitl Or Gietel BERGMANN (b.1780 d.1862-Ichenhausen)
sp: Jakob SELIGMANN (b.1775-Ichenhausen
d.1843-Ichenhausen)
|-2. Klara (Gluck) SELIGMANN (b.1807-Ichenhausen)
| sp: Lazarus BERGMANN (b.Dittenheim)
| |-3. Ludwig BERGMANN (d.Munich ?)
| | sp: Rosa ROSENFELS
| | sp: Rosa ROSENFELS
| |-3. Jette BERGMANN
| | sp: Salomon BACHARACH (b.Augsburg ?)
| | |-4. Max BACHARACH
| | | sp: Martha WEISS
| | |-4. Otto BACHARACH
| | | sp: Trude SP OF OTTO BACHARACH
(b.Schlesinger Liegnitz)
| | |-4. Josef BACHARACH
| | +-4. Peppi BACHARACH
| | sp: Jakob ROSENFELS (d.1906)
| | sp: UNKNOWN
| |-3. Fanny BERGMANN
| | sp: Nathan GERSTLE (b.1824-Augsburg ?)
| | |-4. Regine GERSTLE (b.1855)
| | | sp: Isidore LERCHENTHAL
| | |-4. Adolph GERSTLE (b.1854 d.1899)
| | | sp: Anna ULRICH
| | |-4. Babette GERSTLE (b.1856 d.1856)
| | +-4. Pauline GERSTLE (b.1857 d.1858)
| |-3. Regine BERGMANN
| | sp: Unknown ROSENFELS (b.Erlangen)
| | |-4. Bettina ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Albert FELDHEIM (b.1858-Bamberg
d.1930-Munich)
| | |-4. Jette ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Moritz GUTMANN (b.Augsburg)
| | |-4. Sofie ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Unknown BACHMANN (b.Munich)
| | |-4. Julius ROSENFELS (d.1906-Munich)
| | |-4. Mathilde ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Leopold REICHENBERGER (b.France ? (Houdville??))
| | |-4. Rosa ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Ludwig BERGMANN (d.Munich ?)
| | |-4. Max ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Elizabeth SP OF MAX ROSENFELS
| | |-4. Jakob ROSENFELS (d.1906)
| | | sp: Peppi BACHARACH
| | +-4. Frieda ROSENFELS
| | sp: Nathan SELIGMANN (b.1849 d.1909)
| +-3. Heinrich BERGMANN (d.Aliwal North SA)

So these are basic facts >from my family-tree.

What interests me is
1. Was Lazarus BERGMANN related by 'blood' to his
mother-in-law Gietl BERGMANN?

2. Does any one have any of the family above in their family tree? [I am
aware of, and possess a copy of the extensive Gerstle family tree prepared
some years ago by Karen Franklin]

3. Was Moritz GUTTMANN of Augsburg any relative of Getta GUTTMANN who
married Jacob SELIGMANN of Noerdlingen(1878-1943)?

I would also be interested in anything else about the people mentioned
above. Please reply to

Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@...>
German SIG #Germany BERGMANN family...and a GUTTMANN or two. #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

My ancestor Jakob SELIGMANN of Ichenhausen married Gietl BERGMANN. One of
their children Klara SELIGMANN married Lazarus BERGMANN and she had 5
children. Some details of this family are given below:

1. Gitl Or Gietel BERGMANN (b.1780 d.1862-Ichenhausen)
sp: Jakob SELIGMANN (b.1775-Ichenhausen
d.1843-Ichenhausen)
|-2. Klara (Gluck) SELIGMANN (b.1807-Ichenhausen)
| sp: Lazarus BERGMANN (b.Dittenheim)
| |-3. Ludwig BERGMANN (d.Munich ?)
| | sp: Rosa ROSENFELS
| | sp: Rosa ROSENFELS
| |-3. Jette BERGMANN
| | sp: Salomon BACHARACH (b.Augsburg ?)
| | |-4. Max BACHARACH
| | | sp: Martha WEISS
| | |-4. Otto BACHARACH
| | | sp: Trude SP OF OTTO BACHARACH
(b.Schlesinger Liegnitz)
| | |-4. Josef BACHARACH
| | +-4. Peppi BACHARACH
| | sp: Jakob ROSENFELS (d.1906)
| | sp: UNKNOWN
| |-3. Fanny BERGMANN
| | sp: Nathan GERSTLE (b.1824-Augsburg ?)
| | |-4. Regine GERSTLE (b.1855)
| | | sp: Isidore LERCHENTHAL
| | |-4. Adolph GERSTLE (b.1854 d.1899)
| | | sp: Anna ULRICH
| | |-4. Babette GERSTLE (b.1856 d.1856)
| | +-4. Pauline GERSTLE (b.1857 d.1858)
| |-3. Regine BERGMANN
| | sp: Unknown ROSENFELS (b.Erlangen)
| | |-4. Bettina ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Albert FELDHEIM (b.1858-Bamberg
d.1930-Munich)
| | |-4. Jette ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Moritz GUTMANN (b.Augsburg)
| | |-4. Sofie ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Unknown BACHMANN (b.Munich)
| | |-4. Julius ROSENFELS (d.1906-Munich)
| | |-4. Mathilde ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Leopold REICHENBERGER (b.France ? (Houdville??))
| | |-4. Rosa ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Ludwig BERGMANN (d.Munich ?)
| | |-4. Max ROSENFELS
| | | sp: Elizabeth SP OF MAX ROSENFELS
| | |-4. Jakob ROSENFELS (d.1906)
| | | sp: Peppi BACHARACH
| | +-4. Frieda ROSENFELS
| | sp: Nathan SELIGMANN (b.1849 d.1909)
| +-3. Heinrich BERGMANN (d.Aliwal North SA)

So these are basic facts >from my family-tree.

What interests me is
1. Was Lazarus BERGMANN related by 'blood' to his
mother-in-law Gietl BERGMANN?

2. Does any one have any of the family above in their family tree? [I am
aware of, and possess a copy of the extensive Gerstle family tree prepared
some years ago by Karen Franklin]

3. Was Moritz GUTTMANN of Augsburg any relative of Getta GUTTMANN who
married Jacob SELIGMANN of Noerdlingen(1878-1943)?

I would also be interested in anything else about the people mentioned
above. Please reply to

Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@...>
Seek information from Offenbach #germany

Susan Edel
 

Does anyone know where I can find out about the Jewish community of
Offenbach in Germany? Which archives would have the information?

Many Thanks, Susan EDEL, Petach Tikva, Israel

A NOTE >from THE MODERATOR (a former teacher of writing)

I spent a few hours today with my mother (84) listening to her exchange
nostalgic campus annecdotes with college classmates.

Maybe that's why I quickly recalled the voices of my teachers at the same
school when I read Susan's brief (points for that, anyway) message.

1. Please don't make us guess what help you would like >from us. I'll
assume that you are looking for birth, mar. and death records but
you don't say that. It would cost but a few keystrokes to tell exactly
what "information" you need.

2. The town finder (Shtetl Seeker) at JewishGen lists 4 German towns named
Offenbach and one Offnbach.

That excellent tool at <http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/> will
quickly tell you the map coordinates and distance >from Berlin of all
five. A mouse click on the coordinates ( eg. 4812 0812 )
of any town will produce a map of the district which shold help you
decide if it is the right Bach. (With so many of them, it's easy
to become confused.)

Sorry, Susan. My mother made me do it. (She was an English teacher too.)
German SIG #Germany Seek information from Offenbach #germany

Susan Edel
 

Does anyone know where I can find out about the Jewish community of
Offenbach in Germany? Which archives would have the information?

Many Thanks, Susan EDEL, Petach Tikva, Israel

A NOTE >from THE MODERATOR (a former teacher of writing)

I spent a few hours today with my mother (84) listening to her exchange
nostalgic campus annecdotes with college classmates.

Maybe that's why I quickly recalled the voices of my teachers at the same
school when I read Susan's brief (points for that, anyway) message.

1. Please don't make us guess what help you would like >from us. I'll
assume that you are looking for birth, mar. and death records but
you don't say that. It would cost but a few keystrokes to tell exactly
what "information" you need.

2. The town finder (Shtetl Seeker) at JewishGen lists 4 German towns named
Offenbach and one Offnbach.

That excellent tool at <http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/> will
quickly tell you the map coordinates and distance >from Berlin of all
five. A mouse click on the coordinates ( eg. 4812 0812 )
of any town will produce a map of the district which shold help you
decide if it is the right Bach. (With so many of them, it's easy
to become confused.)

Sorry, Susan. My mother made me do it. (She was an English teacher too.)
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