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Origin of Ukrainian Jews #ukraine

Avi.K. <israeli@...>
 

I may not know about the origin of the Ukrainian Jews (as my maternal
grandmother was) but since quite often converts to Judaism >from the Khazar
Empire have been mentioned by people in this discussion group, I was
wondering if anyone was aware of the fact that in today's Afghanistan there
is an ethnic group of people living who are called Khazara (name similarity
is UNCANNY!)-people with "Asian"/Mongolian features & am wondering if there
is any information know to anybody about it or available somewhere about a
possible link between the two ethnicities.

Also, only one recommended websites (out of quite a few others, I'm sure)
that I found well put together is: www.khazaria.com (about the Khazari Jews
in Hebrew: KuzzaRI).

Avishalom (Avi) Klammer
from Bat-Yam, Israel to Oakland, CA
with Levitt family roots in Ukraine, Moldavia/Bessarabia & Klammer family
possibly Austria (Austo-Hungary?!?)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Origin of Ukrainian Jews #ukraine

Avi.K. <israeli@...>
 

I may not know about the origin of the Ukrainian Jews (as my maternal
grandmother was) but since quite often converts to Judaism >from the Khazar
Empire have been mentioned by people in this discussion group, I was
wondering if anyone was aware of the fact that in today's Afghanistan there
is an ethnic group of people living who are called Khazara (name similarity
is UNCANNY!)-people with "Asian"/Mongolian features & am wondering if there
is any information know to anybody about it or available somewhere about a
possible link between the two ethnicities.

Also, only one recommended websites (out of quite a few others, I'm sure)
that I found well put together is: www.khazaria.com (about the Khazari Jews
in Hebrew: KuzzaRI).

Avishalom (Avi) Klammer
from Bat-Yam, Israel to Oakland, CA
with Levitt family roots in Ukraine, Moldavia/Bessarabia & Klammer family
possibly Austria (Austo-Hungary?!?)


Rabbi Mordechai NUROCK #rabbinic

Menachem Butler <menachembutler@...>
 

Rav-SIG'ers:

I am looking for any information about descendants of Rabbi
Mordechai NUROCK, the former Member of the Israeli Knesset, who
might be living in Israel or worldwide.

Thank you very much,
Menachem

Menachem Butler


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rabbi Mordechai NUROCK #rabbinic

Menachem Butler <menachembutler@...>
 

Rav-SIG'ers:

I am looking for any information about descendants of Rabbi
Mordechai NUROCK, the former Member of the Israeli Knesset, who
might be living in Israel or worldwide.

Thank you very much,
Menachem

Menachem Butler


Re: Slobodka Yeshiva Pictures #rabbinic

Shlomo Katz <SKatz@...>
 

On 2005.12.06, Todd Brody <tbrody10@yahoo.com> asked:

I.. am looking for the annual pictures >from the Slobodka Yeshiva
where my grandfather and greatuncle attended. The years that I am
looking for are the mid to late 20s through the move to Hebron. YIVO
has the 1922 and 1937 photos. But if you know of sources for any of
the other photographs, I would be greatly appreciative.
On 2005.12.13, Leslie Reich <lreich@tiscali.co.uk> responded:

In 2002 Feldheim in Jerusalem published the Hebrew book "Hamashgiach
R' Meir" a biography of R' Meir Chadash, the Mashgiach of the Chevron
Yeshivah, written by his daughter Rebbetsen Shulamit EZRACHI.

In effect this work is a history of Slabodka/Chevron which includes
many photographs of the desired era.
I am in the middle of reading the referenced book; in fact, I am up
to the page that has the 1922 picture. There are many pictures of
individual students as well. So far, I have not noticed other
pictures of the whole Yeshiva.

Shlomo Katz


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Slobodka Yeshiva Pictures #rabbinic

Shlomo Katz <SKatz@...>
 

On 2005.12.06, Todd Brody <tbrody10@yahoo.com> asked:

I.. am looking for the annual pictures >from the Slobodka Yeshiva
where my grandfather and greatuncle attended. The years that I am
looking for are the mid to late 20s through the move to Hebron. YIVO
has the 1922 and 1937 photos. But if you know of sources for any of
the other photographs, I would be greatly appreciative.
On 2005.12.13, Leslie Reich <lreich@tiscali.co.uk> responded:

In 2002 Feldheim in Jerusalem published the Hebrew book "Hamashgiach
R' Meir" a biography of R' Meir Chadash, the Mashgiach of the Chevron
Yeshivah, written by his daughter Rebbetsen Shulamit EZRACHI.

In effect this work is a history of Slabodka/Chevron which includes
many photographs of the desired era.
I am in the middle of reading the referenced book; in fact, I am up
to the page that has the 1922 picture. There are many pictures of
individual students as well. So far, I have not noticed other
pictures of the whole Yeshiva.

Shlomo Katz


Soviet GULAG #ukraine

Barry Shay
 

Professor Latkovski, who has a special interest in the Latagale region of
Latvia, has been researching the Soviet GULAG for many years and has asked
me to post this message. Please respond to Professor Latkovski privately
either by email or regular mail as indicated in his message.

Thanks for your help.

Barry Shay
President, Latvia SIG


The Soviet GULAG

Professor Leonard Latkovski, Chair, Department of History and Political
Science, Hood College is doing research on the Soviet GULAG and has
written about the 1953 revolts in the Gulag at
the Norilsk and Vorkuta camps. He is currently researching all aspects of
life in the camps and is particularly interested in documenting the
conditions of the camps and telling the stories of those who were in these
slave labor camps. Dr. Latkovski would appreciate hearing >from readers who
may have information about relatives or others who were sent to any of the
Gulag camps. He can be contacted by e-mail at latkovski@hood.edu or at the
following address:

Professor Leonard Latkovski
Chair, Department of History and Political Science
Hood College
Frederick, MD 21701.


PUSHKANTSER #ukraine

Art Poskanzer <AMPoskanzer@...>
 

Some of my PUSHKANTSER family migrated >from Lithuania to the Ukraine
before 1895. I hired the Ukrainian Center of Genealogical Research to
search for records. They looked at marriage and death records up to
about 1920 but found nothing. I have since located relatives who left
Kiev in the last 30 years, but I was wondering if there are any still
living in Kiev. Is there a Kiev phonebook which could be searched for
PUSHKANTSER?

Art Poskanzer
Berkeley, CA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Soviet GULAG #ukraine

Barry Shay
 

Professor Latkovski, who has a special interest in the Latagale region of
Latvia, has been researching the Soviet GULAG for many years and has asked
me to post this message. Please respond to Professor Latkovski privately
either by email or regular mail as indicated in his message.

Thanks for your help.

Barry Shay
President, Latvia SIG


The Soviet GULAG

Professor Leonard Latkovski, Chair, Department of History and Political
Science, Hood College is doing research on the Soviet GULAG and has
written about the 1953 revolts in the Gulag at
the Norilsk and Vorkuta camps. He is currently researching all aspects of
life in the camps and is particularly interested in documenting the
conditions of the camps and telling the stories of those who were in these
slave labor camps. Dr. Latkovski would appreciate hearing >from readers who
may have information about relatives or others who were sent to any of the
Gulag camps. He can be contacted by e-mail at latkovski@hood.edu or at the
following address:

Professor Leonard Latkovski
Chair, Department of History and Political Science
Hood College
Frederick, MD 21701.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine PUSHKANTSER #ukraine

Art Poskanzer <AMPoskanzer@...>
 

Some of my PUSHKANTSER family migrated >from Lithuania to the Ukraine
before 1895. I hired the Ukrainian Center of Genealogical Research to
search for records. They looked at marriage and death records up to
about 1920 but found nothing. I have since located relatives who left
Kiev in the last 30 years, but I was wondering if there are any still
living in Kiev. Is there a Kiev phonebook which could be searched for
PUSHKANTSER?

Art Poskanzer
Berkeley, CA


FW: Origin of Ukrainian Jews #ukraine

Silverman, Bill <bsilverman@...>
 

I'm not an expert, but it seems to me that this whole Khazar thing was
debunked in recent years through genetic testing. The person who
promoted it, Arthus Koestler had no basis for it. As for facial
features, the New York Times explained recently that just a few
instances of non-Jews over the centuries can change our appearances, and
that until recently there was virtually no intermingling with non-Jews.
As Casey Stengel would say, "You could look it up."

Bill Silverman
Philadelphia, Pa.
SILVERMAN (Bar), SADSOWSKY-KSENDOVSKY, MARGOLIS (Yaruga)

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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine FW: Origin of Ukrainian Jews #ukraine

Silverman, Bill <bsilverman@...>
 

I'm not an expert, but it seems to me that this whole Khazar thing was
debunked in recent years through genetic testing. The person who
promoted it, Arthus Koestler had no basis for it. As for facial
features, the New York Times explained recently that just a few
instances of non-Jews over the centuries can change our appearances, and
that until recently there was virtually no intermingling with non-Jews.
As Casey Stengel would say, "You could look it up."

Bill Silverman
Philadelphia, Pa.
SILVERMAN (Bar), SADSOWSKY-KSENDOVSKY, MARGOLIS (Yaruga)

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The Soviet GULAG (correction) #latvia

Barry Shay
 

Professor Leonard Latkovski, Chair, Department of History and Political
Science, Hood College is doing research on the Soviet GULAG and has
written about the 1953 revolts in the Gulag at the Norilsk and Vorkuta
camps. He is currently researching all aspects of life in the camps and is
particularly interested in documenting the conditions of the camps and
telling the stories of those who were in these slave labor camps. If you
know of relatives or others who were sent to any of the Gulag camps and who
are willing to tell about it, please email me directly and I will forward
the information to Dr. Latkovski.

Barry Shay


Latvia SIG #Latvia The Soviet GULAG (correction) #latvia

Barry Shay
 

Professor Leonard Latkovski, Chair, Department of History and Political
Science, Hood College is doing research on the Soviet GULAG and has
written about the 1953 revolts in the Gulag at the Norilsk and Vorkuta
camps. He is currently researching all aspects of life in the camps and is
particularly interested in documenting the conditions of the camps and
telling the stories of those who were in these slave labor camps. If you
know of relatives or others who were sent to any of the Gulag camps and who
are willing to tell about it, please email me directly and I will forward
the information to Dr. Latkovski.

Barry Shay


searching_Treitler-Lipsch_from_Stanislawow_in_East-Galicia #galicia

Jacqueline Pollak <jacqueline.pollak@...>
 

I would like to thank all genners who gave me such valuable informations. I
wouldn't have dreamed to get such an help.
Thank you
Jacqueline Pollak
Brussels


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia searching_Treitler-Lipsch_from_Stanislawow_in_East-Galicia #galicia

Jacqueline Pollak <jacqueline.pollak@...>
 

I would like to thank all genners who gave me such valuable informations. I
wouldn't have dreamed to get such an help.
Thank you
Jacqueline Pollak
Brussels


Re: Romanian Jewish Name #romania

malkajef <malkajef@...>
 

I would like to add an additional question.

My mother was a Goldenberg whose family came >from Rumania and I recently
found out >from a recently discovered distant cousin that the family really
came >from Belarus via Odessa. In my own separate research I discovered that
the vast majority of families named Goldenberg seemed to come >from Romania
with about 20% >from elsewhere, mostly Russia.

So, because Yiddish was very entrenched in Romania and that is where the
Yiddish theater grew, the question arose in my mind about the possibility
that Gold-"en"-berg is a "Yiddishified" version of Goldberg, the more common
surname found outside Romania and rarely found in Romania.

Probably pure imagination on my part, but I thought to ask.

Jeff Malka

Sorin Goldenberg wrote:

It is known that a substantial percentage of Romanian jews have got
there during the 19th century >from Poland, Russia, etc. Those jews
brought with them their regular Ashkenazi surnames. Romanian jews were
called x sin y, or had Romanian names usually denoting ocupation
(Croitoru Cojocaru etc...).
Now my questions:
1. A simple one: is Sin a Romanian word or a derivate of the Yidish
sohn (sien).
2. Did you know of jews having the regular Ashkenazi surnames stop
using them and going back to the old way in Romania ?
3. Was there any chance of Romanian authorities in late 1800s, start
of 1900s using only the x sin y although a real Ashkenazi but not Romanian
surname existed ? And the surname was kept in the family and reintroduced
?


Romania SIG #Romania Re: Romanian Jewish Name #romania

malkajef <malkajef@...>
 

I would like to add an additional question.

My mother was a Goldenberg whose family came >from Rumania and I recently
found out >from a recently discovered distant cousin that the family really
came >from Belarus via Odessa. In my own separate research I discovered that
the vast majority of families named Goldenberg seemed to come >from Romania
with about 20% >from elsewhere, mostly Russia.

So, because Yiddish was very entrenched in Romania and that is where the
Yiddish theater grew, the question arose in my mind about the possibility
that Gold-"en"-berg is a "Yiddishified" version of Goldberg, the more common
surname found outside Romania and rarely found in Romania.

Probably pure imagination on my part, but I thought to ask.

Jeff Malka

Sorin Goldenberg wrote:

It is known that a substantial percentage of Romanian jews have got
there during the 19th century >from Poland, Russia, etc. Those jews
brought with them their regular Ashkenazi surnames. Romanian jews were
called x sin y, or had Romanian names usually denoting ocupation
(Croitoru Cojocaru etc...).
Now my questions:
1. A simple one: is Sin a Romanian word or a derivate of the Yidish
sohn (sien).
2. Did you know of jews having the regular Ashkenazi surnames stop
using them and going back to the old way in Romania ?
3. Was there any chance of Romanian authorities in late 1800s, start
of 1900s using only the x sin y although a real Ashkenazi but not Romanian
surname existed ? And the surname was kept in the family and reintroduced
?


The Soviet GULAG #belarus

Barry Shay
 

Professor Leonard Latkovski, Chair, Department of History and Political
Science, Hood College is doing research on the Soviet GULAG and has
written about the 1953 revolts in the Gulag at the Norilsk and Vorkuta
camps. He is currently researching all aspects of life in the camps and is
particularly interested in documenting the conditions of the camps and
telling the stories of those who were in these slave labor camps. If you
know of relatives or others who were sent to any of the Gulag camps and who
are willing to tell about it, please email me directly and I will forward
the information to Dr. Latkovski.

Barry Shay


Note to moderator: I believe I mis-formatted a previous version of this
note.


Belarus SIG #Belarus The Soviet GULAG #belarus

Barry Shay
 

Professor Leonard Latkovski, Chair, Department of History and Political
Science, Hood College is doing research on the Soviet GULAG and has
written about the 1953 revolts in the Gulag at the Norilsk and Vorkuta
camps. He is currently researching all aspects of life in the camps and is
particularly interested in documenting the conditions of the camps and
telling the stories of those who were in these slave labor camps. If you
know of relatives or others who were sent to any of the Gulag camps and who
are willing to tell about it, please email me directly and I will forward
the information to Dr. Latkovski.

Barry Shay


Note to moderator: I believe I mis-formatted a previous version of this
note.