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New huge archive available #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

As Vladimir Salita has pointed out, there is an incredible, new
online resource:

<< The address is http://www.obd-memorial.ru/

That is an invaluable source of data on Russian (USSR) soldiers
died or disappeared during WW II compiled by Russian Defense
Department. I already checked it and found what I have been looking
for. Search by name works well. Also they show original documents as
well.>>

The original documents are incredible! Some have photographs or
fingerprints. The language is Cyrillic, German and others possibly.
If you don't have a Cyrillic keyboard option on your computer, there
is a website where you can enter the Latin characters to
transliterate the text into Cyrllic (and vice-versa) and then cut
and paste them in to the search box on the website.

The site is:

http://2cyr.com/

On the website, if your entry/surname brings up several selections,
click on each one for a separate "details" page. Highlighted in
crimson at the bottom of the page is the link that will bring up
the actual file.

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@...


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia New huge archive available #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

As Vladimir Salita has pointed out, there is an incredible, new
online resource:

<< The address is http://www.obd-memorial.ru/

That is an invaluable source of data on Russian (USSR) soldiers
died or disappeared during WW II compiled by Russian Defense
Department. I already checked it and found what I have been looking
for. Search by name works well. Also they show original documents as
well.>>

The original documents are incredible! Some have photographs or
fingerprints. The language is Cyrillic, German and others possibly.
If you don't have a Cyrillic keyboard option on your computer, there
is a website where you can enter the Latin characters to
transliterate the text into Cyrllic (and vice-versa) and then cut
and paste them in to the search box on the website.

The site is:

http://2cyr.com/

On the website, if your entry/surname brings up several selections,
click on each one for a separate "details" page. Highlighted in
crimson at the bottom of the page is the link that will bring up
the actual file.

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@...


PELTA #lodz #poland

Mordechai David Pelta
 

Does anyone know anything about the PELTA family >from Lodz?

I know my branch >from Konskie is related to them, but I do not know how.

Please let me know.
Thanks,

Mordechai David Pelta, Esq.
San Francisco, CA


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland PELTA #lodz #poland

Mordechai David Pelta
 

Does anyone know anything about the PELTA family >from Lodz?

I know my branch >from Konskie is related to them, but I do not know how.

Please let me know.
Thanks,

Mordechai David Pelta, Esq.
San Francisco, CA


R' Eliezer WINTNER #rabbinic

Avrofek <avrofek@...>
 

Rabbi Raphael HALPERIN in his encyclopedia Etz Hayim lists haRav
Eliezer WINTNER #2351 as one of the great rabbis of Hungary. He was
rabbi in Breif(sp!) and Av Bet Din in Shtempan (sp!). He was a
disciple of haRav Moshe Sofer.

He died in 1893 at the age of 41.

I would appreciate ANY information: scholastic, rabbinic, family,
genealogy, etc.

Thank you all.
Avraham Ofek


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic R' Eliezer WINTNER #rabbinic

Avrofek <avrofek@...>
 

Rabbi Raphael HALPERIN in his encyclopedia Etz Hayim lists haRav
Eliezer WINTNER #2351 as one of the great rabbis of Hungary. He was
rabbi in Breif(sp!) and Av Bet Din in Shtempan (sp!). He was a
disciple of haRav Moshe Sofer.

He died in 1893 at the age of 41.

I would appreciate ANY information: scholastic, rabbinic, family,
genealogy, etc.

Thank you all.
Avraham Ofek


Re: R' Avraham Yehoshua HESHEL aka Hersch Zewi KRAKAU #rabbinic

richard may
 

Dear community,

Thank you to everyone who responded to my inquiry regarding finding
information on the descendants of Rabbi Avraham Yehoshua HESHEL,
known as "Reb Heshel of Krakow"!

Richard May
Buffalo, New York, U.S.A.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: R' Avraham Yehoshua HESHEL aka Hersch Zewi KRAKAU #rabbinic

richard may
 

Dear community,

Thank you to everyone who responded to my inquiry regarding finding
information on the descendants of Rabbi Avraham Yehoshua HESHEL,
known as "Reb Heshel of Krakow"!

Richard May
Buffalo, New York, U.S.A.


Re: -ov ending on surnames #sephardic

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 12/30/2007 6:53:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,
dlaufer@... writes:

<< . . . HOFF is the German/Yiddish word for a
courtyard. And FRUM is Yiddish for 'religious'. So FRUMHOFF
could have been the owner of a place where some religious
activities took place.

==iI think that's most unlikely. The word for pious is fromm; it does get
slurred to frumm in some Yiddish dialects. It always refers to a person's
personal practice, not to the nature of a ceremony. Hof does mean court, and by
extension courtyard, but in surnames it is almost inevitably part of a location
name meaning farm, estate, or ducal or royal holding. The personal name
Frumm is >from the German personal name Frummet--though many would like to
believe that it is meant as a wish for piety.

== - hof or - hoffer is a quite common suffix in Jewish surnames >from
Germanic countries and is almost inevitably based on a family's geographic
origin. It is also one of those suffixes added to names to make them "more
elegant" (read "less obviously Jewish") such as - baum, -berg, -feld, -stern,
stein, etc.

==There is no connection between the Germanic hof and the central Asian -ov

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@...


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: -ov ending on surnames #sephardic

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 12/30/2007 6:53:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,
dlaufer@... writes:

<< . . . HOFF is the German/Yiddish word for a
courtyard. And FRUM is Yiddish for 'religious'. So FRUMHOFF
could have been the owner of a place where some religious
activities took place.

==iI think that's most unlikely. The word for pious is fromm; it does get
slurred to frumm in some Yiddish dialects. It always refers to a person's
personal practice, not to the nature of a ceremony. Hof does mean court, and by
extension courtyard, but in surnames it is almost inevitably part of a location
name meaning farm, estate, or ducal or royal holding. The personal name
Frumm is >from the German personal name Frummet--though many would like to
believe that it is meant as a wish for piety.

== - hof or - hoffer is a quite common suffix in Jewish surnames >from
Germanic countries and is almost inevitably based on a family's geographic
origin. It is also one of those suffixes added to names to make them "more
elegant" (read "less obviously Jewish") such as - baum, -berg, -feld, -stern,
stein, etc.

==There is no connection between the Germanic hof and the central Asian -ov

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@...


ZIV/SHIFF/SIEF from Seda/shad #latvia

yitzchok treisman <yitzchok1@...>
 

I'm researching the ZIV/SHIFF/SIEF family >from Seda/shad,
Does anyone have information on this family?

Yours sincerely
Yitzchak Treisman

Yitzchak Treisman
1/5 Rabbi Akiva Street
Ramat Beit Shemesh B
990083
Israel
e-mail Yitzchok1@...


Latvia SIG #Latvia ZIV/SHIFF/SIEF from Seda/shad #latvia

yitzchok treisman <yitzchok1@...>
 

I'm researching the ZIV/SHIFF/SIEF family >from Seda/shad,
Does anyone have information on this family?

Yours sincerely
Yitzchak Treisman

Yitzchak Treisman
1/5 Rabbi Akiva Street
Ramat Beit Shemesh B
990083
Israel
e-mail Yitzchok1@...


Carol Baker's resignation #lithuania

Davida Noyek Handler <dnhiowa@...>
 

Carol Baker's resignation as Siauliai District Group Coordinator is a sad
loss for LitvakSIG.

Carol has been a key player since even before the formation of LitvakSIG.
At the Boston conference in 1996, it was Carol's idea to try to get any
records we could for the Siauliai District - at a time when we didn't even
know if such an undertaking could even be possible.

When I co-founded LitvakSIG in 1997, Carol was right there beside me,
encouraging me all the way - always there with sound advice - and always a
strong shoulder to lean on. She joined the Board, became the Research
Groups Coordinator, and continued in this capacity until about two years
ago, when she turned her job over to the capable hands of Olga Zabludoff.
Carol then returned to her first love - as the Siauliai District Group
Coordinator.

Under her inspired leadership, the group has acquired, translated, and
distributed records for the Siauliai area since 1998. There are more than
50,000 records in the All Lithuania Database for the Siauliai area,
consisting of Revision Lists, Tax and Voter Lists, Rabbi Elector's Lists,
etc., etc. Thousands of other records have been distributed to contributors
that are not yet in the All Lithuania Database, but will appear there in
2008. This doesn't include the hundreds of thousands of other records that
were acquired during her tenure.

None of this would have been possible without Carol's devotion and
determination. We all owe her a debt of gratitude for the almost ten years
of her hard work. We will miss her, and we all hope that she brings the
same devotion and determination to whatever else she attempts (and indeed,
succeeds at.) There are no words to show our appreciation.

Thank you Carol, my good friend, my colleague, and my listening post for all
those years.

Davida Noyek Handler
Co-founder and Immediate Past President
LitvakSIG, Inc.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Carol Baker's resignation #lithuania

Davida Noyek Handler <dnhiowa@...>
 

Carol Baker's resignation as Siauliai District Group Coordinator is a sad
loss for LitvakSIG.

Carol has been a key player since even before the formation of LitvakSIG.
At the Boston conference in 1996, it was Carol's idea to try to get any
records we could for the Siauliai District - at a time when we didn't even
know if such an undertaking could even be possible.

When I co-founded LitvakSIG in 1997, Carol was right there beside me,
encouraging me all the way - always there with sound advice - and always a
strong shoulder to lean on. She joined the Board, became the Research
Groups Coordinator, and continued in this capacity until about two years
ago, when she turned her job over to the capable hands of Olga Zabludoff.
Carol then returned to her first love - as the Siauliai District Group
Coordinator.

Under her inspired leadership, the group has acquired, translated, and
distributed records for the Siauliai area since 1998. There are more than
50,000 records in the All Lithuania Database for the Siauliai area,
consisting of Revision Lists, Tax and Voter Lists, Rabbi Elector's Lists,
etc., etc. Thousands of other records have been distributed to contributors
that are not yet in the All Lithuania Database, but will appear there in
2008. This doesn't include the hundreds of thousands of other records that
were acquired during her tenure.

None of this would have been possible without Carol's devotion and
determination. We all owe her a debt of gratitude for the almost ten years
of her hard work. We will miss her, and we all hope that she brings the
same devotion and determination to whatever else she attempts (and indeed,
succeeds at.) There are no words to show our appreciation.

Thank you Carol, my good friend, my colleague, and my listening post for all
those years.

Davida Noyek Handler
Co-founder and Immediate Past President
LitvakSIG, Inc.


Belated thank you re. Nezhin, Ukraine inquiries #ukraine

maryheld@...
 

Dear members of the Ukraine SIG,

I'm embarrassed to be writing so belatedly to thank those of you who gave me
wonderful suggestions and information this past spring regarding the Zwetows
(Tsvetov in transliterated Russian) and the Ukrainian town of Nezhyn, from
which they emigrated to the U.S. in about 1879. They were my great
grandparents.

Through your help and that of some other geners who may not have been in the
Ukraine SIG, I learned a lot about my family and about Nezhyn before I
actually went there this past June. I followed up on many of your
suggestions for finding a tour guide but none panned out. Then, through a
local friend originally >from Ukraine, I did manage to arrange, in advance, a
one-day tour to Nezhyn >from Kiev. The tour guide and her driver were
terrific; although they knew nothing about Nezhyn before, they did advance
scouting (Nezhyn is 70 miles >from Kiev) and made advance arrangements to
take me to the archive, the town museum, and the "pickle statue," and they
even arranged for an elderly Jewish resident living in Nezhyn to take us to
the Jewish cemetery. (Incidentally he has written 2 or 3 books on the Jews
of Nezhyn, but in Russian. I purchased and sent the books to another
Jewish-gener who might be able to have them translated.)

So many of you gave me leads and advice. I wish I could thank each of you
individually, but unfortunately I had a series of computer meltdowns this
past summer and fall (and thus lost a ton of data, including most of the
correspondence with this group).

Imcidentally, if anyone wants to know about the physical whereabouts of
Nezhyn Jewish records, please contact me.

Mary Heldman
San Francisco, CA
maryheld@...


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Belated thank you re. Nezhin, Ukraine inquiries #ukraine

maryheld@...
 

Dear members of the Ukraine SIG,

I'm embarrassed to be writing so belatedly to thank those of you who gave me
wonderful suggestions and information this past spring regarding the Zwetows
(Tsvetov in transliterated Russian) and the Ukrainian town of Nezhyn, from
which they emigrated to the U.S. in about 1879. They were my great
grandparents.

Through your help and that of some other geners who may not have been in the
Ukraine SIG, I learned a lot about my family and about Nezhyn before I
actually went there this past June. I followed up on many of your
suggestions for finding a tour guide but none panned out. Then, through a
local friend originally >from Ukraine, I did manage to arrange, in advance, a
one-day tour to Nezhyn >from Kiev. The tour guide and her driver were
terrific; although they knew nothing about Nezhyn before, they did advance
scouting (Nezhyn is 70 miles >from Kiev) and made advance arrangements to
take me to the archive, the town museum, and the "pickle statue," and they
even arranged for an elderly Jewish resident living in Nezhyn to take us to
the Jewish cemetery. (Incidentally he has written 2 or 3 books on the Jews
of Nezhyn, but in Russian. I purchased and sent the books to another
Jewish-gener who might be able to have them translated.)

So many of you gave me leads and advice. I wish I could thank each of you
individually, but unfortunately I had a series of computer meltdowns this
past summer and fall (and thus lost a ton of data, including most of the
correspondence with this group).

Imcidentally, if anyone wants to know about the physical whereabouts of
Nezhyn Jewish records, please contact me.

Mary Heldman
San Francisco, CA
maryheld@...


Translit.ru #ukraine

Adam <papylon@...>
 

Have seen the archive being mentioned a couple of times. A good way to
translate english to russian is using translit.ru - Just remember that
some letter are different so for example Cwejman is Cvejman when typing
it in translit.ru. Good luck with finding any interesting documents,

Regards,
Adam Cwejman


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Translit.ru #ukraine

Adam <papylon@...>
 

Have seen the archive being mentioned a couple of times. A good way to
translate english to russian is using translit.ru - Just remember that
some letter are different so for example Cwejman is Cvejman when typing
it in translit.ru. Good luck with finding any interesting documents,

Regards,
Adam Cwejman


Re: Russian to English tranlation #ukraine

Max Heffler
 

In Windows, there is also Start->Programs->Accessories->System
Tools->Character Map, which allows you to pick a font and copy and paste
between windows.

Max Hefler


Cindy -

There are alternative Cyrillic keyboards for Windows as far back as
Windows 3.1 circa 1990. Windows has become more International with each
new version, so it gets simpler to implement cyrillic keyboards as you
go >from older to newer.

There is a standard layout for Russian typewriters that is totally
different >from QWERTY and pretty confusing to learn if you are used to
QWERTY. Then there is a "students keyboard" layout that follows QWERTY
as much as possible (given differences between the alphabets) and is easier
for most of us to master, or at least learn to hunt-and-peck. Usually you
press a certain key combination, something like ALT + SHIFT, to switch
between cyrillic and QWERTY.

Or you may be able to find cyrillic keyboards that pop up in windows, to
mouse around in rather than pressing physical keyboard keys. These may be
easier to use if you just want to search a few words. Alternate keyboards
have steeper learning curves that only pay off if you will be typing out
whole sentences and paragraphs.

If you Google "cyrillic keyboard" you will find a number of alternatives to
try.


David Mason,
searching KOGAN in Zvenigorodka and Philadelphia.




From: "Cindy Gallard" <gallardc@...> writes:

I saw the posting concerning the Russian Archival database recently
made available at http://www.obd-memorial.ru/ . I am using Internet
Explorer and in order to search the database I would need to put my
research criteria in Cyrillic. Can anyone tell me how to do that?

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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: Russian to English tranlation #ukraine

Max Heffler
 

In Windows, there is also Start->Programs->Accessories->System
Tools->Character Map, which allows you to pick a font and copy and paste
between windows.

Max Hefler


Cindy -

There are alternative Cyrillic keyboards for Windows as far back as
Windows 3.1 circa 1990. Windows has become more International with each
new version, so it gets simpler to implement cyrillic keyboards as you
go >from older to newer.

There is a standard layout for Russian typewriters that is totally
different >from QWERTY and pretty confusing to learn if you are used to
QWERTY. Then there is a "students keyboard" layout that follows QWERTY
as much as possible (given differences between the alphabets) and is easier
for most of us to master, or at least learn to hunt-and-peck. Usually you
press a certain key combination, something like ALT + SHIFT, to switch
between cyrillic and QWERTY.

Or you may be able to find cyrillic keyboards that pop up in windows, to
mouse around in rather than pressing physical keyboard keys. These may be
easier to use if you just want to search a few words. Alternate keyboards
have steeper learning curves that only pay off if you will be typing out
whole sentences and paragraphs.

If you Google "cyrillic keyboard" you will find a number of alternatives to
try.


David Mason,
searching KOGAN in Zvenigorodka and Philadelphia.




From: "Cindy Gallard" <gallardc@...> writes:

I saw the posting concerning the Russian Archival database recently
made available at http://www.obd-memorial.ru/ . I am using Internet
Explorer and in order to search the database I would need to put my
research criteria in Cyrillic. Can anyone tell me how to do that?

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