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Re: Is DNA useful to find lost relatives #dna

AJ Levin <aj_levin@...>
 

Mutation likelihoods are based on transmission events. Two mutations
out of 67 is uncommon but not unheard of >from father to son. However,
the probability of two separate one-step mutations >from a father to
two sons is actually pretty good (each is still 66/67 with his father).
Also, some markers are more prone to mutation than others.

AJ Levin

--- On Mon, 7/6/09, David Schreiber <dbschreiber@yahoo.com> wrote:

I have a question based on this posting. If the Y-chromosome is
passed virtually unchanged >from father to all male children, a match
of 65 out of 67 markers between brothers represents a background
mutation rate of roughly 3%. Isn't that kind of high? Is it
possible that such a high rate is caused by experimental error
in the tests? Just wondering.


DNA Research #DNA Re: Is DNA useful to find lost relatives #dna

AJ Levin <aj_levin@...>
 

Mutation likelihoods are based on transmission events. Two mutations
out of 67 is uncommon but not unheard of >from father to son. However,
the probability of two separate one-step mutations >from a father to
two sons is actually pretty good (each is still 66/67 with his father).
Also, some markers are more prone to mutation than others.

AJ Levin

--- On Mon, 7/6/09, David Schreiber <dbschreiber@yahoo.com> wrote:

I have a question based on this posting. If the Y-chromosome is
passed virtually unchanged >from father to all male children, a match
of 65 out of 67 markers between brothers represents a background
mutation rate of roughly 3%. Isn't that kind of high? Is it
possible that such a high rate is caused by experimental error
in the tests? Just wondering.


Success! Finding a Link to Family via the JewishGen Blog #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

This past March 17, 2009, I wrote an article for the JewishGen Blog
regarding Irish research which was entitled "Green Bagels and Matzoh Ball -
It's That Time Of The Year Again". As a result of this, an Australian
reader, Naomi Barnett, passed on the info to a friend of hers, Mervyn
Silverstein, who had been born in Belfast and now lived in Australia.

Utilizing the links I had provided in my article, Mervyn found his LEOPOLD
family he did not know still existed in Belfast and other places including
Australia where he lives now. He has even met some of his new found family
and plans to meet more in the future. Not only did he learn these things,
but also that his family, whose original name was LEPAR, was originally >from
Kruikai, Lithuania, and that they could be found in the records of the
All-Lithuania Database.

You may read further details of this success story by going to the JewishGen
Blog for today, Monday, July 6, 2009 at: http://www.jewishgen.blogspot.com

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Success! Finding a Link to Family via the JewishGen Blog #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

This past March 17, 2009, I wrote an article for the JewishGen Blog
regarding Irish research which was entitled "Green Bagels and Matzoh Ball -
It's That Time Of The Year Again". As a result of this, an Australian
reader, Naomi Barnett, passed on the info to a friend of hers, Mervyn
Silverstein, who had been born in Belfast and now lived in Australia.

Utilizing the links I had provided in my article, Mervyn found his LEOPOLD
family he did not know still existed in Belfast and other places including
Australia where he lives now. He has even met some of his new found family
and plans to meet more in the future. Not only did he learn these things,
but also that his family, whose original name was LEPAR, was originally >from
Kruikai, Lithuania, and that they could be found in the records of the
All-Lithuania Database.

You may read further details of this success story by going to the JewishGen
Blog for today, Monday, July 6, 2009 at: http://www.jewishgen.blogspot.com

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Polish translation of Lomza birth record #poland

taxtroll@...
 

Please help with translation of 1841 Lomza birth record of Feygla
ZEJBURSKA, sister of my 3rd ggf. Here is the viewmate link.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13077

Thanks for your help.

Sharon Klein
Johns Creek, GA

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland Polish translation of Lomza birth record #poland

taxtroll@...
 

Please help with translation of 1841 Lomza birth record of Feygla
ZEJBURSKA, sister of my 3rd ggf. Here is the viewmate link.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=13077

Thanks for your help.

Sharon Klein
Johns Creek, GA

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


article about Label & RUnya Goren of Terespol #poland

philafrum
 

I just read a story about a Terespol (Poland) couple named Label
and Runya Goren and their descendants which was submitted this past
May. THe name of the author isn't, however, indicated, and I'd like
to get in touch with him/her.

Here's the url where I found the article:

http://goren.us/Biographies/A%20Biography%20of%20Label%20and%20Runya%20Goren.htm

I had googled "Terespol + Jew" and this article appeared in the list.

Can anybody help? Thanks.

Evan Fishman
ebf2001@comcast.net


JRI Poland #Poland article about Label & RUnya Goren of Terespol #poland

philafrum
 

I just read a story about a Terespol (Poland) couple named Label
and Runya Goren and their descendants which was submitted this past
May. THe name of the author isn't, however, indicated, and I'd like
to get in touch with him/her.

Here's the url where I found the article:

http://goren.us/Biographies/A%20Biography%20of%20Label%20and%20Runya%20Goren.htm

I had googled "Terespol + Jew" and this article appeared in the list.

Can anybody help? Thanks.

Evan Fishman
ebf2001@comcast.net


Re: Tips for Archival Research #galicia

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

Dear Karen,

You've written an absolutely wonderful post and reminder to us all.
Behave well and with basic courtesies - how hard can that be?

Best Regards,
Connie Fisher Newhan (#1272)
California, USA
FISHER/FISCHER/FISZER, FISZEL (Warszawa& Bedzin, Poland),
S(Z)PRINGER, HERSZLIKOWICZ, HAMBURGER (Bedzin, Lagiza, Zarki,
Poland), GERSTEN (Obertyn, Galacia) BARSKA/BARSKY/BARSKIY (Odessa),
GOLDBERG (Sokolka?), FELDMAN (Veliuona,Kaunas), CAHN (Koln),
FRIEDSAM (Bodendorf, Coln? Germany, Pittsburgh, PA),
NEWHAN/NEUHAN/NEUHAHN (Hesse Cassel, Meimbressen, Germany,
Baltimore, MD), BOHORODCZANER (Potok Zloty, Ukraine), LEVINE, BLUM,
ROTH, ROCKOVITZ, ABRAMS, RABINOWITZ

Karen Roekard wrote:

<<Last Sunday (6/28/09) I gave a talk entitled: Warsaw, Jerusalem,
Lvov: Adventures in Archiveland and Beyond, in which I described
(in an interesting way) how to use different archives and how to
integrate the esoteric material you find....

I pointed out that as a human, as the child of a Chassidish-valued
home with a Holocaust (refugee) Survivor father, I learned the
importance of acknowledging anyone who helps me and/or behaves as
my Rebbe, my teacher - to give them credit; that no one has to do
anything to help me even if it is their job; that I must express
my gratitude...>>


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Tips for Archival Research #galicia

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

Dear Karen,

You've written an absolutely wonderful post and reminder to us all.
Behave well and with basic courtesies - how hard can that be?

Best Regards,
Connie Fisher Newhan (#1272)
California, USA
FISHER/FISCHER/FISZER, FISZEL (Warszawa& Bedzin, Poland),
S(Z)PRINGER, HERSZLIKOWICZ, HAMBURGER (Bedzin, Lagiza, Zarki,
Poland), GERSTEN (Obertyn, Galacia) BARSKA/BARSKY/BARSKIY (Odessa),
GOLDBERG (Sokolka?), FELDMAN (Veliuona,Kaunas), CAHN (Koln),
FRIEDSAM (Bodendorf, Coln? Germany, Pittsburgh, PA),
NEWHAN/NEUHAN/NEUHAHN (Hesse Cassel, Meimbressen, Germany,
Baltimore, MD), BOHORODCZANER (Potok Zloty, Ukraine), LEVINE, BLUM,
ROTH, ROCKOVITZ, ABRAMS, RABINOWITZ

Karen Roekard wrote:

<<Last Sunday (6/28/09) I gave a talk entitled: Warsaw, Jerusalem,
Lvov: Adventures in Archiveland and Beyond, in which I described
(in an interesting way) how to use different archives and how to
integrate the esoteric material you find....

I pointed out that as a human, as the child of a Chassidish-valued
home with a Holocaust (refugee) Survivor father, I learned the
importance of acknowledging anyone who helps me and/or behaves as
my Rebbe, my teacher - to give them credit; that no one has to do
anything to help me even if it is their job; that I must express
my gratitude...>>


Re: Is DNA useful to find lost relatives #dna

David Schreiber
 

I have a question based on this posting. If the Y-chromosome is
passed virtually unchanged >from father to all male children, a match
of 65 out of 67 markers between brothers represents a background
mutation rate of roughly 3%. Isn't that kind of high? Is it
possible that such a high rate is caused by experimental error
in the tests? Just wondering.

David Schreiber
Melbourne, FL

--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Marsha Epstein <marsha.epstein@gmail.com> wrote:

Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 6:48 PM
I disagree with the statement "Its not that useful though for finding
lost relatives." It depends upon your definition of lost relatives. My
father's brother matched on 65 of 67 markers and has a 99% chance of
having a common ancestor within 12 generations (about 300 years), or a
95% chance of a common ancestor within 200 years with one person.


DNA Research #DNA Re: Is DNA useful to find lost relatives #dna

David Schreiber
 

I have a question based on this posting. If the Y-chromosome is
passed virtually unchanged >from father to all male children, a match
of 65 out of 67 markers between brothers represents a background
mutation rate of roughly 3%. Isn't that kind of high? Is it
possible that such a high rate is caused by experimental error
in the tests? Just wondering.

David Schreiber
Melbourne, FL

--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Marsha Epstein <marsha.epstein@gmail.com> wrote:

Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 6:48 PM
I disagree with the statement "Its not that useful though for finding
lost relatives." It depends upon your definition of lost relatives. My
father's brother matched on 65 of 67 markers and has a 99% chance of
having a common ancestor within 12 generations (about 300 years), or a
95% chance of a common ancestor within 200 years with one person.


Re: Tips for Archival Research #galicia

Sharon Kaiser <journeys@...>
 

Hello Karen,
I read with interest your discourse on how to act in an archive.
True, many researchers are blunt/impatient and generally boorish.
However, it is unfortunate that it is perceived as 'Jewish' behavior.

It is just behavior exhibited by anyone forgetting the basic rule - the
'Golden' rule:
'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you'.
It is not ethnic/religious it is universal.

Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Sharon Kaiser

From: Karen Roekard <>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:44:40 -0700
...
Some suggestions:
(1) I encourage you all to behave with grace and gratitude when you
visit archives this summer: bad and ungrateful behavior will reflect
badly on all of us and affect the experience we each have in doing
archival research;


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Tips for Archival Research #rabbinic

Sharon Kaiser <journeys@...>
 

Hello Karen,
I read with interest your discourse on how to act in an archive.
True, many researchers are blunt/impatient and generally boorish.
However, it is unfortunate that it is perceived as 'Jewish' behavior.

It is just behavior exhibited by anyone forgetting the basic rule - the
'Golden' rule:
'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you'.
It is not ethnic/religious it is universal.

Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Sharon Kaiser

From: Karen Roekard <>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:44:40 -0700
...
Some suggestions:
(1) I encourage you all to behave with grace and gratitude when you
visit archives this summer: bad and ungrateful behavior will reflect
badly on all of us and affect the experience we each have in doing
archival research;


Hanne Miriam BACHRACH #germany

Steven Leof <sleof.sln25@...>
 

I'm cross-posting this on both Earlyamericansig and Gersig as I'm
looking for some help confirming the name of the father of my ancestor
Hanne (or Hannah) Miriam BACHRACH who married Meyer (or Meier or
Mayer) HECHT of Langenschwarz, Kreis Hunfeld, Hessen, Germany.

I know that Hanne Miriam was born in 1789 or 1790, possibly in
Nentershausen, Kreis Hunfeld or Hunfeld, both in Hessen. She emigrated
to Balitmore, Maryland, arriving on 15 Dec 1847 on the ship Shiller
which departed >from Bremen, Germany. She died on 28 Nov 1857 in
Baltimore; I believe she was buried in Row 1, Lot/Grave 22, Old Burial
Ground, Oheb Shalom Cemetery, Baltimore. As an aside Hanne and all her
children emigrated to Baltimore between 1844 and 1847. Her husband had
been murdered in Langenschwarz on 12 Jun 1835. She probably went to
Baltimore because her husband's younger brother Reuben HECHT had
emigrated there about 1836.

I understand that Hanne's parents were Reuben BACHRACH and Marianne
MOSES however I have no proof. I see >from FTJP that there was indeed a
Reuben BACHRACH and Marianne MOSES who lived in Nentershausen, Kreis
Hunfeld who could have been her parents. They are not listed as having
a daughter Hanne Miriam.

- Does anyone have any information that would help establish whether
Hanne Miriam BACHRACH was the daughter of Reuben BACHRACH and Marianne
MOSES?
- Do the birth and marriage records >from Nentershausen exist? If so,
can someone do a look-up for me?
- Would it be possible for someone in Baltimore to go to Oheb Shalom
in Baltimore and take a photo of Hanne Miriam's grave for me?

Thanks. Regards, Steven Leof London, England. steven.leof@gmail.com


family in Dnepopetrsk #ukraine

JKLAYMAN@...
 

I would like to be able to contact someone who can help me find my
family in Dnepopetrsk 1939 name: SOUCHOTINSKY, SUKHOTINSKY.
Some of my family went to live in Crimea. Does anyone know about
the jews in crimea.

Thanks Dina K.
the JewishGen Uk


German SIG #Germany Hanne Miriam BACHRACH #germany

Steven Leof <sleof.sln25@...>
 

I'm cross-posting this on both Earlyamericansig and Gersig as I'm
looking for some help confirming the name of the father of my ancestor
Hanne (or Hannah) Miriam BACHRACH who married Meyer (or Meier or
Mayer) HECHT of Langenschwarz, Kreis Hunfeld, Hessen, Germany.

I know that Hanne Miriam was born in 1789 or 1790, possibly in
Nentershausen, Kreis Hunfeld or Hunfeld, both in Hessen. She emigrated
to Balitmore, Maryland, arriving on 15 Dec 1847 on the ship Shiller
which departed >from Bremen, Germany. She died on 28 Nov 1857 in
Baltimore; I believe she was buried in Row 1, Lot/Grave 22, Old Burial
Ground, Oheb Shalom Cemetery, Baltimore. As an aside Hanne and all her
children emigrated to Baltimore between 1844 and 1847. Her husband had
been murdered in Langenschwarz on 12 Jun 1835. She probably went to
Baltimore because her husband's younger brother Reuben HECHT had
emigrated there about 1836.

I understand that Hanne's parents were Reuben BACHRACH and Marianne
MOSES however I have no proof. I see >from FTJP that there was indeed a
Reuben BACHRACH and Marianne MOSES who lived in Nentershausen, Kreis
Hunfeld who could have been her parents. They are not listed as having
a daughter Hanne Miriam.

- Does anyone have any information that would help establish whether
Hanne Miriam BACHRACH was the daughter of Reuben BACHRACH and Marianne
MOSES?
- Do the birth and marriage records >from Nentershausen exist? If so,
can someone do a look-up for me?
- Would it be possible for someone in Baltimore to go to Oheb Shalom
in Baltimore and take a photo of Hanne Miriam's grave for me?

Thanks. Regards, Steven Leof London, England. steven.leof@gmail.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine family in Dnepopetrsk #ukraine

JKLAYMAN@...
 

I would like to be able to contact someone who can help me find my
family in Dnepopetrsk 1939 name: SOUCHOTINSKY, SUKHOTINSKY.
Some of my family went to live in Crimea. Does anyone know about
the jews in crimea.

Thanks Dina K.
the JewishGen Uk


Re: looking for information on GELB family from Lviv / Lvov / Lemberg #galicia

Israel P
 

They were undoubtedly witnesses to the naming, not to the birth.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem

Jay Lenefsky wrote:

... I got the above address >from my grandmother's birth certificate.
The is a Moses GELB (and a Moses LIEBER) listed as being
witnesses to my grandmother's birth....


Contact info for Hany Wenkert Schorr #galicia

Emily Garber <gilah@...>
 

I have tried to contact Hany Wenkert Schorr via JG Family Finder
- to no avail. She and I both have Wenkert family >from Radauti,
Romania. Mine are also >from Zaleszczcyki, Ukraine. If she's out
there, or if someone has better contact info for her, please
contact me privately. Thank you.

Emily Garber
Phoenix, AZ

Radauti/Czernowitz/Zaleszczcyki: LIEBROSS, WENKERT, ETT, BARATH
Lubin (Labun, Yurovshchina), Volhynia: GARBER, MALZMANN, MAZEWITSKY
Kasan (Kozyany), Disna, Vilna, Belarus: WILENSKY, EPSTEIN