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GRUNFELD search #hungary

grunfeld@...
 

Hello Everyone,

I am searching for any kind of information or members of the GRUNFELD
family in the Transylvania are. Most have probably died in the
Holocaust, but I am not sure about it. Specifically, I am looking for
Moritz GRUNFELD (born January 4, 1908 in Targu Lapus) and married to
Roza GRUNFELD. I think he was deported in 1944 and died in the
concentration camps. Also, I am searching for information and
relatives or siblings of Antal (aka: Ansel, Anton) GRUNFELD (born
1976) and his wife Aranka (aka: Aurelia, Galde) GRUNFELD (born FRIED)
(born around 1882). They lived in Cluj, had three children, Nathan-
Ludovic, Blanca, Moritz and were deported to Auschwitz in 1944.

I was wondering if anyone knows of a list of deportees >from Cluj -
Kolozsvar

I have put in searches at Auschwits, the Red Cross and at the
Holocaust Museum in DC.

Thank you for any help.

Mihai GRUNFELD

grunfeld@vassar.edu

Poughkeepsie, NY


Hungary SIG #Hungary GRUNFELD search #hungary

grunfeld@...
 

Hello Everyone,

I am searching for any kind of information or members of the GRUNFELD
family in the Transylvania are. Most have probably died in the
Holocaust, but I am not sure about it. Specifically, I am looking for
Moritz GRUNFELD (born January 4, 1908 in Targu Lapus) and married to
Roza GRUNFELD. I think he was deported in 1944 and died in the
concentration camps. Also, I am searching for information and
relatives or siblings of Antal (aka: Ansel, Anton) GRUNFELD (born
1976) and his wife Aranka (aka: Aurelia, Galde) GRUNFELD (born FRIED)
(born around 1882). They lived in Cluj, had three children, Nathan-
Ludovic, Blanca, Moritz and were deported to Auschwitz in 1944.

I was wondering if anyone knows of a list of deportees >from Cluj -
Kolozsvar

I have put in searches at Auschwits, the Red Cross and at the
Holocaust Museum in DC.

Thank you for any help.

Mihai GRUNFELD

grunfeld@vassar.edu

Poughkeepsie, NY


Re: Rabbi Chaim Ozer GRODZENSKY of Vilna #rabbinic

Aryeh Lopiansky <alop@...>
 

The name of the second wife of Rav GRODZENSKY was Yache ATLAS (SCHAPIRA).Her
previous husband was Rabbi Yehudah Schapira, a brother of Rav Avrohom Dov
Schapira, the Kovner Rov.

-----Original Message---

From: Sandra Levy <shula2933@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:37:11 +0200

I am seeking the name of the second wife of Rabbi Chaim Ozer
GRODZENSKY of Vilna , who was the daughter of Rabbi Meir ATLAS.
Rabbi Chaim Ozer's first wife was Leah Alte PADEVO-GRODNENSKY daughter
of Rabbi Eliyahu Eliezer Grodnensky and Malka Hinda PADUVA LIPKIN.
Malka Hinda was the daughter of Rabbi Israel Lipkin SALANTER and
Esther Feiga EISENSTEIN.

Rabbi Chaim Ozer had only one child Malka born to him by his first
wife, Leah Alte.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic RE: Rabbi Chaim Ozer GRODZENSKY of Vilna #rabbinic

Aryeh Lopiansky <alop@...>
 

The name of the second wife of Rav GRODZENSKY was Yache ATLAS (SCHAPIRA).Her
previous husband was Rabbi Yehudah Schapira, a brother of Rav Avrohom Dov
Schapira, the Kovner Rov.

-----Original Message---

From: Sandra Levy <shula2933@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:37:11 +0200

I am seeking the name of the second wife of Rabbi Chaim Ozer
GRODZENSKY of Vilna , who was the daughter of Rabbi Meir ATLAS.
Rabbi Chaim Ozer's first wife was Leah Alte PADEVO-GRODNENSKY daughter
of Rabbi Eliyahu Eliezer Grodnensky and Malka Hinda PADUVA LIPKIN.
Malka Hinda was the daughter of Rabbi Israel Lipkin SALANTER and
Esther Feiga EISENSTEIN.

Rabbi Chaim Ozer had only one child Malka born to him by his first
wife, Leah Alte.


Le-toldoth Yisrael be-Amerikah, 1917; Kalman LONDON, Columbus, Ohio #rabbinic

Toby Brief
 

I have been searching for information on Kalman LONDON who was the
first spiritual leader (he may not have been a rabbi) at Agudas Achim,
an Orthodox congregation in Columbus, Ohio between about 1881 and 1896.
I have found a reference which seems to note that he is listed in
Le-toldoth Yisrael be-Amerikah, 1917.

Would anyone happen to have the book or the original volumes? If so,
would you be able to tell me what there might be about Kalman London?

His descendants are here in Columbus and we are going to be discussing
him in an exhibit in April which will look at the roots of the Columbus
Jewish community.

Thanks for any help you can provide

Toby Brief
Columbus Ohio


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Le-toldoth Yisrael be-Amerikah, 1917; Kalman LONDON, Columbus, Ohio #rabbinic

Toby Brief
 

I have been searching for information on Kalman LONDON who was the
first spiritual leader (he may not have been a rabbi) at Agudas Achim,
an Orthodox congregation in Columbus, Ohio between about 1881 and 1896.
I have found a reference which seems to note that he is listed in
Le-toldoth Yisrael be-Amerikah, 1917.

Would anyone happen to have the book or the original volumes? If so,
would you be able to tell me what there might be about Kalman London?

His descendants are here in Columbus and we are going to be discussing
him in an exhibit in April which will look at the roots of the Columbus
Jewish community.

Thanks for any help you can provide

Toby Brief
Columbus Ohio


Re: ROTTENBERG Family Tree #rabbinic

Dan Rottenberg <d.rottenberg@...>
 

Dear Ronen,

I've concluded that all Rottenbergs are likely descended >from Rabbi
Meir of Rothenburg, Germany (1215-1293). My own immediate family can be
traced back to Moses Rottenberg (1805?-1870?), probably born in Germany
but lived near Shiba, Slovakia (near Bardejov) >from about 1825 to his
death. What are Mordechai Rottenberg's dates and where was he from?

Sincerely,
Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PA

On Jan 10, 2010, at 1:55 AM, ronen kusne wrote:

I would love to correspond with any cousins descendant of Rabbi
Mordechai Kalman ROTTENBERG Z"L & Itta Rajzel RAPPAPORT Z"L. I
am working on updating the family tree and wanted to include all
new descendants. If you are not sure if you are related, please
email me anyway and I can check the family tree.

Please respond privately.
ronenk4@yahoo.com
Ronen Kusne


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: ROTTENBERG Family Tree #rabbinic

Dan Rottenberg <d.rottenberg@...>
 

Dear Ronen,

I've concluded that all Rottenbergs are likely descended >from Rabbi
Meir of Rothenburg, Germany (1215-1293). My own immediate family can be
traced back to Moses Rottenberg (1805?-1870?), probably born in Germany
but lived near Shiba, Slovakia (near Bardejov) >from about 1825 to his
death. What are Mordechai Rottenberg's dates and where was he from?

Sincerely,
Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PA

On Jan 10, 2010, at 1:55 AM, ronen kusne wrote:

I would love to correspond with any cousins descendant of Rabbi
Mordechai Kalman ROTTENBERG Z"L & Itta Rajzel RAPPAPORT Z"L. I
am working on updating the family tree and wanted to include all
new descendants. If you are not sure if you are related, please
email me anyway and I can check the family tree.

Please respond privately.
ronenk4@yahoo.com
Ronen Kusne


JGSGW, Washington, DC, February 7: Following False Trails #general

Jeff Miller
 

Program: Following False Trails - Have you found errors in "official"
documents that led you on a false trail? Has a family "story" led you down
the wrong path?

Speaker: Sallyann Amdur Sack-Pikus, Ph.D. According to her website, she is
the only genealogist listed in Jewish Women in America. She was instrumental
in founding the International Institute for Jewish Genealogy, Jewish
Genealogical Society of Greater Washington, International Association of
Jewish Genealogical Societies, and Avotaynu. Dr. Sack has chaired or
co-chaired six of the annual conferences on Jewish Genealogy, authored seven
books of use to genealogists and has consulted on numerous projects.

Location: Adas Israel, 2850 Quebec Street NW, Washington, DC 20008

Sunday, February 7, 2010

Time: 1:30 PM - Business meeting and announcements, followed by program

Please feel free to email your similar "False Trail" experiences in advance
of the meeting. Send them to JGSGW_DC@COMCAST.NET and we will ask Sallyann
to address those experiences on February 7.

Cost for Program: Free to members of JGSGW. Non-members/visitors are welcome
to
attend for a $5.00 fee. If a guest joins JGSGW the fee will be applied
toward the membership dues. Non-members may attend one meeting per year free
- see certificate on the Current Programs page of the JGSGW website

More details including directions available at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsgw/

Jeff Miller, President, JGSGW
No. Virginia/Washington DC/Maryland
Messages can be sent to jgsgw_dc@comcast.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSGW, Washington, DC, February 7: Following False Trails #general

Jeff Miller
 

Program: Following False Trails - Have you found errors in "official"
documents that led you on a false trail? Has a family "story" led you down
the wrong path?

Speaker: Sallyann Amdur Sack-Pikus, Ph.D. According to her website, she is
the only genealogist listed in Jewish Women in America. She was instrumental
in founding the International Institute for Jewish Genealogy, Jewish
Genealogical Society of Greater Washington, International Association of
Jewish Genealogical Societies, and Avotaynu. Dr. Sack has chaired or
co-chaired six of the annual conferences on Jewish Genealogy, authored seven
books of use to genealogists and has consulted on numerous projects.

Location: Adas Israel, 2850 Quebec Street NW, Washington, DC 20008

Sunday, February 7, 2010

Time: 1:30 PM - Business meeting and announcements, followed by program

Please feel free to email your similar "False Trail" experiences in advance
of the meeting. Send them to JGSGW_DC@COMCAST.NET and we will ask Sallyann
to address those experiences on February 7.

Cost for Program: Free to members of JGSGW. Non-members/visitors are welcome
to
attend for a $5.00 fee. If a guest joins JGSGW the fee will be applied
toward the membership dues. Non-members may attend one meeting per year free
- see certificate on the Current Programs page of the JGSGW website

More details including directions available at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsgw/

Jeff Miller, President, JGSGW
No. Virginia/Washington DC/Maryland
Messages can be sent to jgsgw_dc@comcast.net


Re: Towns & gubernias #ukraine

Hilary Henkin
 

Hi,
I think perhaps Rose's question was more about the new Ukraine-SIG
website. There is a drop-down menu for "Towns and Gubernias", the
pages of which include some ShtetLinks. ShtetLinks are also
mentioned within the Holocaust drop-down menu. She may be curious
about why we have both.

First a bit of background:
My initial goal in redoing the website was to reorganize what was
already there into navigable paths, to make each page load as fast as
possible for the users, and to give all the pages a similar look and
style. >from a technical viewpoint, I needed to create a single
design template which all the pages would use, and to create and use
a CSS (Consolidated Style Sheet). A CSS makes all the headings the
same style, all the body text the same, all the links the same, etc,
and simultaneously makes changing those choices universally a simple
process. Many photos were far too large to view or download quickly,
and the smaller photos (thumbnails) needed consistent size
standards. I wasn't going to add information, nor remove it - just
clean up what was there.

With that in mind, the Towns and Gubernias were part of the old
website, as individual pages known as "Collection Points";
example: "Chernowitz Collection Point". Each of these collection
points on the old website had photos, data, postcards - whatever the
creator or contributors could collect - and whatever is on each town
page now. In the redesign I did the technical changes I mentioned
above, but didn't add anything that wasn't already there.

ShtetLinks are created by individuals or small groups of people with
personal links to those towns. They are for individual towns. Our
website can give researchers overviews of the larger regions, a sense
of what each gubernia was about. This would include mentions or short
descriptions of the individual towns within each gubernia. Also,
someone may be willing to contribute a story or photo about a
relative in a particular town, but not create an full ShtetLink (even
though that's a rewarding and somewhat simple process!) We can
provide a place to do that until they're ready to create a
ShtetLink. We won't duplicate or supercede ShtetLinks, but link to them.

I hope this clarifies why we have both groups on the website.

Hilary Henkin
Ukraine-SIG webmaster

At 06:00 PM 1/12/2010, ar3j@aol.com wrote:
From: rosef@post.tau.ac.il
Subject: [ukraine] new SIG site

I don't understand the differenciation between Towns & gubernias and
Shtetl sites.

Rose Feldman
Tel-Aviv


In the 19th Century Ukraine was divided into Crown Colonies of
Austria (Galicia, Bukovina or Subcarpathia), or large Gubernias of
Russia equivalent to North America's States or Provinces) and Uezds
(equivalent to our Counties or Regions). By the end of the 2nd World
War the Country of Ukraine was made up of Oblasts (equivalent to our
States or Provinces) and Raions (equivalent to our Counties or
Regions). There are presently 25 Oblasts and a number of Raions in each Oblast.

Andrea Dechter
Coral Springs, FL


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Towns & gubernias #ukraine

Hilary Henkin
 

Hi,
I think perhaps Rose's question was more about the new Ukraine-SIG
website. There is a drop-down menu for "Towns and Gubernias", the
pages of which include some ShtetLinks. ShtetLinks are also
mentioned within the Holocaust drop-down menu. She may be curious
about why we have both.

First a bit of background:
My initial goal in redoing the website was to reorganize what was
already there into navigable paths, to make each page load as fast as
possible for the users, and to give all the pages a similar look and
style. >from a technical viewpoint, I needed to create a single
design template which all the pages would use, and to create and use
a CSS (Consolidated Style Sheet). A CSS makes all the headings the
same style, all the body text the same, all the links the same, etc,
and simultaneously makes changing those choices universally a simple
process. Many photos were far too large to view or download quickly,
and the smaller photos (thumbnails) needed consistent size
standards. I wasn't going to add information, nor remove it - just
clean up what was there.

With that in mind, the Towns and Gubernias were part of the old
website, as individual pages known as "Collection Points";
example: "Chernowitz Collection Point". Each of these collection
points on the old website had photos, data, postcards - whatever the
creator or contributors could collect - and whatever is on each town
page now. In the redesign I did the technical changes I mentioned
above, but didn't add anything that wasn't already there.

ShtetLinks are created by individuals or small groups of people with
personal links to those towns. They are for individual towns. Our
website can give researchers overviews of the larger regions, a sense
of what each gubernia was about. This would include mentions or short
descriptions of the individual towns within each gubernia. Also,
someone may be willing to contribute a story or photo about a
relative in a particular town, but not create an full ShtetLink (even
though that's a rewarding and somewhat simple process!) We can
provide a place to do that until they're ready to create a
ShtetLink. We won't duplicate or supercede ShtetLinks, but link to them.

I hope this clarifies why we have both groups on the website.

Hilary Henkin
Ukraine-SIG webmaster

At 06:00 PM 1/12/2010, ar3j@aol.com wrote:
From: rosef@post.tau.ac.il
Subject: [ukraine] new SIG site

I don't understand the differenciation between Towns & gubernias and
Shtetl sites.

Rose Feldman
Tel-Aviv


In the 19th Century Ukraine was divided into Crown Colonies of
Austria (Galicia, Bukovina or Subcarpathia), or large Gubernias of
Russia equivalent to North America's States or Provinces) and Uezds
(equivalent to our Counties or Regions). By the end of the 2nd World
War the Country of Ukraine was made up of Oblasts (equivalent to our
States or Provinces) and Raions (equivalent to our Counties or
Regions). There are presently 25 Oblasts and a number of Raions in each Oblast.

Andrea Dechter
Coral Springs, FL


Searching WIENSTEIN from Minsk #belarus

Maurice I. Kessler
 

I am searching for Josha WIENSTEIN (veynshtein-in Yiddish) or his
descendents.
He was last heard >from in Oct 1940 >from Minsk age about 45 years.

Maurice I Kessler
New York
mikessler222@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately with family information


Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching WIENSTEIN from Minsk #belarus

Maurice I. Kessler
 

I am searching for Josha WIENSTEIN (veynshtein-in Yiddish) or his
descendents.
He was last heard >from in Oct 1940 >from Minsk age about 45 years.

Maurice I Kessler
New York
mikessler222@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately with family information


Re: Bubba Meises! #general

Karen Jo Rippens <krippens@...>
 

I agree. Most of these are bubba meinses, but amongst them there are
also true stories. There is a story in my family that one of our
forebears was an officer in the Czar's army and had a land grant - a
farm - as a result, which he used to help as many people as he could.
I would discount the story had it not come >from his granddaughter, and
if my uncle, her nephew, had not found in his mother's possessions a
small photo of the man in his decorated officer's uniform. The other
story about this man is that he is the one who brought red hair into
our family!

Karen Jo Rippens

Jean Perkin wrote:
People are very quick to dismiss something which cannot be proved
instantly, but I would disagree.
snip..


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Bubba Meises! #general

Karen Jo Rippens <krippens@...>
 

I agree. Most of these are bubba meinses, but amongst them there are
also true stories. There is a story in my family that one of our
forebears was an officer in the Czar's army and had a land grant - a
farm - as a result, which he used to help as many people as he could.
I would discount the story had it not come >from his granddaughter, and
if my uncle, her nephew, had not found in his mother's possessions a
small photo of the man in his decorated officer's uniform. The other
story about this man is that he is the one who brought red hair into
our family!

Karen Jo Rippens

Jean Perkin wrote:
People are very quick to dismiss something which cannot be proved
instantly, but I would disagree.
snip..


Re: Bubba Meises! #general

Jules Levin
 

I was told many years back that a famous sculptor who was a cousin of my
grandmother had been invited to join the Russian Court as Court Sculptor,
but he refused as he would not agree to being baptized.
snip..

His name was Mordukh Matysovich Antokolsky, later Mark Matveevich Antokolsky.
He was >from Vilnius, married a woman >from Vilnius, and after becoming
rich and famous, owned a large house in Vilnius. In fact, there is one
story that the surname comes >from the street Antakalnio gatve in Vilnius,
still an important street. If so, it is somewhat amusing that now in the
"restored" Jewish quarter of Vilnius, there is a Antokolskio g.,
named after the sculptor.

What I read (Russian language biography) was that he was in art
school in Vilnius, and a royal princess on one of those tours that
the English royals still do, came to the school, saw his work, and
invited him to study at the Imperial Academy in St. Petersburg.
The rule was any Jew admitted had to be baptized, and he refused.
He was admitted anyway, and became the first non-converted Jew
admitted to the Academy in St Petersburg, and the first Jew
patronized by any royal. All this was under Alexander II, the "good tzar".
His statue of Ivan the Terrible can be seen in the Hermitage. There
is a wikipedia article with more info.

Jules Levin
Los Angeles


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Bubba Meises! #general

Jules Levin
 

I was told many years back that a famous sculptor who was a cousin of my
grandmother had been invited to join the Russian Court as Court Sculptor,
but he refused as he would not agree to being baptized.
snip..

His name was Mordukh Matysovich Antokolsky, later Mark Matveevich Antokolsky.
He was >from Vilnius, married a woman >from Vilnius, and after becoming
rich and famous, owned a large house in Vilnius. In fact, there is one
story that the surname comes >from the street Antakalnio gatve in Vilnius,
still an important street. If so, it is somewhat amusing that now in the
"restored" Jewish quarter of Vilnius, there is a Antokolskio g.,
named after the sculptor.

What I read (Russian language biography) was that he was in art
school in Vilnius, and a royal princess on one of those tours that
the English royals still do, came to the school, saw his work, and
invited him to study at the Imperial Academy in St. Petersburg.
The rule was any Jew admitted had to be baptized, and he refused.
He was admitted anyway, and became the first non-converted Jew
admitted to the Academy in St Petersburg, and the first Jew
patronized by any royal. All this was under Alexander II, the "good tzar".
His statue of Ivan the Terrible can be seen in the Hermitage. There
is a wikipedia article with more info.

Jules Levin
Los Angeles


SIG Projects - You, Too, Can Volunteer #ukraine

cmw521@...
 

I recently sent along to this mailing list a list of places for which the
Family History Libraries have films of various kinds. I was hoping, in
posting that, that some of our readers might find a town of interest for
their family and volunteer to create a project to get some of these records
onto the All-Ukraine database.

We are handicapped, amongst the many other Special Interest Groups on
JewishGen, by virtue of the fact that most areas of our interest do not have
a lot of records with the Family History Centers. There are other records,
I am sure, in other repositories, including the Central Archives of the
Jewish People, various libraries, and perhaps other places I am not aware
of. As I can't take on the responsibility at the moment, it would be great
if some of the rest of our readership would offer their services to help us
become much more active. It is only 6 months until the Summer Conference in
Los Angeles. Wouldn't it be great to have some projects either in process
or finished by that time? By setting up teams of people to do the work, it
is very possible to accomplish this. All that is needed is for some of you
to volunteer a few hours a week to do it. If any of you are so inclined,
respond back to this list, and I am sure we can get some inexpensive, or
perhaps free projects underway quickly. You don't need any special computer
skills or advanced language skills; all you need is an interest in seeing
the records of your town or shtetl on line for all to research and a desire
to help. I do know JewishGen is fully willing to help and provide you with
guidance and expertise, and there are a number of people on this list who
already have experience with a variety of projects. Together, let's see
what we can do to increase the amount of data we have available on our
common ancestry.

Do I hear any volunteers?

Chuck Weinstein
Deer Park, NY
cmw521@earthlink.net


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine SIG Projects - You, Too, Can Volunteer #ukraine

cmw521@...
 

I recently sent along to this mailing list a list of places for which the
Family History Libraries have films of various kinds. I was hoping, in
posting that, that some of our readers might find a town of interest for
their family and volunteer to create a project to get some of these records
onto the All-Ukraine database.

We are handicapped, amongst the many other Special Interest Groups on
JewishGen, by virtue of the fact that most areas of our interest do not have
a lot of records with the Family History Centers. There are other records,
I am sure, in other repositories, including the Central Archives of the
Jewish People, various libraries, and perhaps other places I am not aware
of. As I can't take on the responsibility at the moment, it would be great
if some of the rest of our readership would offer their services to help us
become much more active. It is only 6 months until the Summer Conference in
Los Angeles. Wouldn't it be great to have some projects either in process
or finished by that time? By setting up teams of people to do the work, it
is very possible to accomplish this. All that is needed is for some of you
to volunteer a few hours a week to do it. If any of you are so inclined,
respond back to this list, and I am sure we can get some inexpensive, or
perhaps free projects underway quickly. You don't need any special computer
skills or advanced language skills; all you need is an interest in seeing
the records of your town or shtetl on line for all to research and a desire
to help. I do know JewishGen is fully willing to help and provide you with
guidance and expertise, and there are a number of people on this list who
already have experience with a variety of projects. Together, let's see
what we can do to increase the amount of data we have available on our
common ancestry.

Do I hear any volunteers?

Chuck Weinstein
Deer Park, NY
cmw521@earthlink.net