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Re: DACHAU survivor or descendants #general

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

In the Jewishgen digest dated 1st January, message #9, Daniel
Vangheluwe is searching for information about a Dachau survivor's
named GUNZEIG or other spellings. There are two GRYNCAJGER in the
US directory.

Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


YANOVSKY, Zalman (Kingston, Ontario) #general

SJHogarth <sjhogarth@...>
 

Would the person I was in contact with a while ago and who is
related to the above-named please get in touch with me. I have
some recent info.

Sharen Hogarth
London, Ontario

Searching:KAUFMAN- Minneapolis/Connecticut/N.Y.; SIEGELMAN/
ZIEGELMAN - ?; SILVERSTEIN-Minneapolis/Chicago; FREIDSON/
SOLOMON-L.A.; MUSIMOVICH - Odessa/Kherson; RECHITSKY/DOKTOROV
- Bobrovyi Kut, Ukraine; LADIN/LADYZHENSKIJ-Calarasi/Minneapolis
/N.Y./Des Moines;BLINDER-Israel


They Came To America to be Televised January 8th #general

Nancy Ring Kendrick <bogus@...>
 

Happy New Year!

For those interested - PBS is scheduled to run a program on
January 8th at 9:30 PM (please check your local TV schedule)
entitled "They Came To America."

The program is a 90 minute special featuring interviews with
dozens of immigrants who came to the United States >from China,
Poland, Mexico, Sierra Leone, and Greece, to name a few. who
came to the U.S. to pursue their dreams. It will also discuss
the descendants of these immigrants and cover about 150 years
of American History.

This information is only being posted as FYI to subscribers,
as I thought the program might interest many on this list. No
reply is needed. Enjoy, Good Luck and Happy New Year!
Nancy Ring-Kendrick
Daytona Beach, FL
Web Master of Adams, NY History and Genealogy (60 miles n. of Syracuse)
http://www.adamsny.org/adams.html
Searching: BLOCH / DZIEKIEWICZ / RING in
Austria, Hungary, Poland and the United States: CT/NJ/NY/RI/PA
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/k/e/n/Nancy-R-Kendrick/?
Welcome=1018348985


STONE / NEDOREZOV / RIVKIN Chicago and Mogilev #general

Frederick J. Stone <fstone@...>
 

I just learned that my grandfather, David Stone (changed >from
Nedorezov) had cousins in Chicago named Rivkin. My grandfather
arrived in Chicago >from Mogilev, Belarus around 1910 having
followed his brother Harry who had arrived some time earlier.
Their father was named Gershon as best as I can tell. If any
one could help elucidate the connection, I would appreciate it.

Fred Stone
Red Bank, NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: DACHAU survivor or descendants #general

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

In the Jewishgen digest dated 1st January, message #9, Daniel
Vangheluwe is searching for information about a Dachau survivor's
named GUNZEIG or other spellings. There are two GRYNCAJGER in the
US directory.

Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen YANOVSKY, Zalman (Kingston, Ontario) #general

SJHogarth <sjhogarth@...>
 

Would the person I was in contact with a while ago and who is
related to the above-named please get in touch with me. I have
some recent info.

Sharen Hogarth
London, Ontario

Searching:KAUFMAN- Minneapolis/Connecticut/N.Y.; SIEGELMAN/
ZIEGELMAN - ?; SILVERSTEIN-Minneapolis/Chicago; FREIDSON/
SOLOMON-L.A.; MUSIMOVICH - Odessa/Kherson; RECHITSKY/DOKTOROV
- Bobrovyi Kut, Ukraine; LADIN/LADYZHENSKIJ-Calarasi/Minneapolis
/N.Y./Des Moines;BLINDER-Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen They Came To America to be Televised January 8th #general

Nancy Ring Kendrick <bogus@...>
 

Happy New Year!

For those interested - PBS is scheduled to run a program on
January 8th at 9:30 PM (please check your local TV schedule)
entitled "They Came To America."

The program is a 90 minute special featuring interviews with
dozens of immigrants who came to the United States >from China,
Poland, Mexico, Sierra Leone, and Greece, to name a few. who
came to the U.S. to pursue their dreams. It will also discuss
the descendants of these immigrants and cover about 150 years
of American History.

This information is only being posted as FYI to subscribers,
as I thought the program might interest many on this list. No
reply is needed. Enjoy, Good Luck and Happy New Year!
Nancy Ring-Kendrick
Daytona Beach, FL
Web Master of Adams, NY History and Genealogy (60 miles n. of Syracuse)
http://www.adamsny.org/adams.html
Searching: BLOCH / DZIEKIEWICZ / RING in
Austria, Hungary, Poland and the United States: CT/NJ/NY/RI/PA
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/k/e/n/Nancy-R-Kendrick/?
Welcome=1018348985


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen STONE / NEDOREZOV / RIVKIN Chicago and Mogilev #general

Frederick J. Stone <fstone@...>
 

I just learned that my grandfather, David Stone (changed >from
Nedorezov) had cousins in Chicago named Rivkin. My grandfather
arrived in Chicago >from Mogilev, Belarus around 1910 having
followed his brother Harry who had arrived some time earlier.
Their father was named Gershon as best as I can tell. If any
one could help elucidate the connection, I would appreciate it.

Fred Stone
Red Bank, NJ


Rashi's gravesite #rabbinic

Ginsburg, Paul <GinsburgP@...>
 

Here is a question I have had for some time....

Why don't we know where Rashi is buried? We know that it is
probably somewhere in France. Wouldn't it be a safe assumption
to think he was buried in the last town/village he lived in?

We know where other great rabbis who lived hundreds of years before
him are buried. Why has there never been an interest in where
Rashi's gravesite is?

The answer I usually receive is, he can be found in every Chumash
alongside the parsha. While this is true - I would still like to
find an answer [if possible].

Paul W. Ginsburg
Rockville, Maryland


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rashi's gravesite #rabbinic

Ginsburg, Paul <GinsburgP@...>
 

Here is a question I have had for some time....

Why don't we know where Rashi is buried? We know that it is
probably somewhere in France. Wouldn't it be a safe assumption
to think he was buried in the last town/village he lived in?

We know where other great rabbis who lived hundreds of years before
him are buried. Why has there never been an interest in where
Rashi's gravesite is?

The answer I usually receive is, he can be found in every Chumash
alongside the parsha. While this is true - I would still like to
find an answer [if possible].

Paul W. Ginsburg
Rockville, Maryland


Searching Angel JOSEPH of California #general

Phil Lipshut
 

Hi All

Looking for descendents of of Angel JOSEPH, b London England
Jan 1845, m Esther Solomons (b 1857) Denver City 1872). Angel
was the son of Solomon and Jane Joseph of Sam's Coffee House,
London.

Angel and Esther had 9 children born in Los Angeles and San
Francisco, California

Pauline b Apr 1875
Julia b 1877
Jane b Apr 1879 m Seymour B Goodman (4 Sep 1879 - 7 Jul1962)
child Blanche
Saul A b 28 Dec 1880 d 21 Sep 1950 m. Lottie b 1885 children
Saul A & Anna B
son b 1882 (a Julius Joseph died 1882 age 4 months in San
Francisco)
Abraham b Apr 1886 m Sadie b 1886
Julius A b 17 Mar 1888 d 27 Aug 1980
Ira b 1 Jan 1890 d 9 Jan 1853 m Lillian
Gladys b Apr 1892

If any of this info looks familiar, please contact me?

Phil Lipshut
Melbourne, Australia

researching Goldhill, Joseph, Moss, Solomon/s (London), Levy
(Birmingham), Lipschitz (Vilnius, Lithuania), Nettleberg (Poznan,
Poland)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching Angel JOSEPH of California #general

Phil Lipshut
 

Hi All

Looking for descendents of of Angel JOSEPH, b London England
Jan 1845, m Esther Solomons (b 1857) Denver City 1872). Angel
was the son of Solomon and Jane Joseph of Sam's Coffee House,
London.

Angel and Esther had 9 children born in Los Angeles and San
Francisco, California

Pauline b Apr 1875
Julia b 1877
Jane b Apr 1879 m Seymour B Goodman (4 Sep 1879 - 7 Jul1962)
child Blanche
Saul A b 28 Dec 1880 d 21 Sep 1950 m. Lottie b 1885 children
Saul A & Anna B
son b 1882 (a Julius Joseph died 1882 age 4 months in San
Francisco)
Abraham b Apr 1886 m Sadie b 1886
Julius A b 17 Mar 1888 d 27 Aug 1980
Ira b 1 Jan 1890 d 9 Jan 1853 m Lillian
Gladys b Apr 1892

If any of this info looks familiar, please contact me?

Phil Lipshut
Melbourne, Australia

researching Goldhill, Joseph, Moss, Solomon/s (London), Levy
(Birmingham), Lipschitz (Vilnius, Lithuania), Nettleberg (Poznan,
Poland)


Re forged messages #general

Carol W. Skydell <cwskydell@...>
 

There are messages circulating that try to make it appear
as if they are coming >from the JewishGen Discussion Group.
These are forgeries and contain a vi*rus in an attachment..

Please note that the messages are **not** coming >from
JewishGen@lyris.jewishgen.org but >from jewishgen@mybluelight.com
which could also be forged.

We've said it before, we will say it again - JewishGen does
**not** send attachments. There is no way that our systems
can send vi*ruses, all outgoing mail is screened.

If you are using the internet without vi*rus protection on your
system, you are living dangerously. Is this the way you want to
start 2003?

Let's all make certain we are protected, and that will protect
all with whom we exchange e-mail.

Best wishes for a happy, healthy and protected New Year.

Carol

Carol W. Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Special Projects


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re forged messages #general

Carol W. Skydell <cwskydell@...>
 

There are messages circulating that try to make it appear
as if they are coming >from the JewishGen Discussion Group.
These are forgeries and contain a vi*rus in an attachment..

Please note that the messages are **not** coming >from
JewishGen@lyris.jewishgen.org but >from jewishgen@mybluelight.com
which could also be forged.

We've said it before, we will say it again - JewishGen does
**not** send attachments. There is no way that our systems
can send vi*ruses, all outgoing mail is screened.

If you are using the internet without vi*rus protection on your
system, you are living dangerously. Is this the way you want to
start 2003?

Let's all make certain we are protected, and that will protect
all with whom we exchange e-mail.

Best wishes for a happy, healthy and protected New Year.

Carol

Carol W. Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Special Projects


Ketuba: Yiddish or Hebrew?--and what it can tell you #general

MBernet@...
 

A recent posting asked whether a Ketuba is in Yiddish or Hebrew.

The traditional Ketuba is written in Aramaic with a few Hebrew
phrases (particularly the date and location); in Israel today, I
believe, it is sometimes all Hebrew. In some branches of Judaism
the Ketuba is written in the local language, e.g. English, and
there is always an option to have a local-language Ketuba, too;
often it's printed on the back of the traditional one.

I very much doubt that Ketubot were written in Yiddish in the 19th
century.

Also, the traditional Ketuba uses the formal Hebrew names for both
bride and groom. The surname is not usually given, only the Hebrew
names of the two partners and the names of their respective fathers.
Unless one has some idea of time, location, Hebrew name of bride
and groom, or fathers' name, it would be hard to determine whether
a specific Ketuba is that of an ancestor known primarily by surname.

The T'naim, on the other hand, contract at time of engagement, might
very well have been in Yiddish.

I've finally been able to view the specific ketuba and I will relay
the personal details privately, as requested. The ketuba was printed
in Cheethan, Manchester, UK, in standard Aramaic and Hebrew. I can't
make out any surnames (if there are any), but the groom was a Levite,
which might help confirm or eliminate the question about whose ketuba
it was.

A Ketuba was commonly preprinted. The handwritten info useful to
researchers includes:
- date (in Hebrew)
- name of bride and groom (Hebrew) and their fathers (Henrew)
- whether the bride (but not the groom) is unmarried, widowed or
divorced
- the amount of the "official" dowry (usually a standard 100 zuzim;
which is halved in the case of a previously married woman), and then
the groom "generously" doubles the standard sum (he is free to add
more money, which may or may not be recorded in the ketuba)

Michael Bernet,
New York


Aramaic Katubot- Not Yiddish or Hebrew! #general

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

Just wanted to let you know that I have been set straight and I
now know the katubot on VM2038 is written in Aramaic, not Yiddish
or Hebrew. Of course, it goes without saying, I can't read Aramaic
either!

Best regards,

Connie Fisher Newhan


Searching a friend originally from Milwaukee WI #general

loufine@...
 

Hi JGeners

I am searching for a friend who was born in Milwaukee
Wisconsin. Her maiden name is Marian CHUDNOW. She had
a brother named Jerome. Please reply privately.

Louis A. Fine
Bellingham WA
E-mail: loufine@attbi.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ketuba: Yiddish or Hebrew?--and what it can tell you #general

MBernet@...
 

A recent posting asked whether a Ketuba is in Yiddish or Hebrew.

The traditional Ketuba is written in Aramaic with a few Hebrew
phrases (particularly the date and location); in Israel today, I
believe, it is sometimes all Hebrew. In some branches of Judaism
the Ketuba is written in the local language, e.g. English, and
there is always an option to have a local-language Ketuba, too;
often it's printed on the back of the traditional one.

I very much doubt that Ketubot were written in Yiddish in the 19th
century.

Also, the traditional Ketuba uses the formal Hebrew names for both
bride and groom. The surname is not usually given, only the Hebrew
names of the two partners and the names of their respective fathers.
Unless one has some idea of time, location, Hebrew name of bride
and groom, or fathers' name, it would be hard to determine whether
a specific Ketuba is that of an ancestor known primarily by surname.

The T'naim, on the other hand, contract at time of engagement, might
very well have been in Yiddish.

I've finally been able to view the specific ketuba and I will relay
the personal details privately, as requested. The ketuba was printed
in Cheethan, Manchester, UK, in standard Aramaic and Hebrew. I can't
make out any surnames (if there are any), but the groom was a Levite,
which might help confirm or eliminate the question about whose ketuba
it was.

A Ketuba was commonly preprinted. The handwritten info useful to
researchers includes:
- date (in Hebrew)
- name of bride and groom (Hebrew) and their fathers (Henrew)
- whether the bride (but not the groom) is unmarried, widowed or
divorced
- the amount of the "official" dowry (usually a standard 100 zuzim;
which is halved in the case of a previously married woman), and then
the groom "generously" doubles the standard sum (he is free to add
more money, which may or may not be recorded in the ketuba)

Michael Bernet,
New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Aramaic Katubot- Not Yiddish or Hebrew! #general

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

Just wanted to let you know that I have been set straight and I
now know the katubot on VM2038 is written in Aramaic, not Yiddish
or Hebrew. Of course, it goes without saying, I can't read Aramaic
either!

Best regards,

Connie Fisher Newhan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching a friend originally from Milwaukee WI #general

loufine@...
 

Hi JGeners

I am searching for a friend who was born in Milwaukee
Wisconsin. Her maiden name is Marian CHUDNOW. She had
a brother named Jerome. Please reply privately.

Louis A. Fine
Bellingham WA
E-mail: loufine@attbi.com