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JRI Poland #Poland "Zmarl" #poland

Zvi Y Gitelman <zvigitel@...>
 

Learned disquistions on "Szejma" aside, "zmarl" meands "died" in Polish.

Zvi Gitelman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Negative search for grandparents' marriage certificate from NY Vital Records Dept #general

ELIAS SAVADA
 

Paraphrasing >from the info file JewishGen New York City Birth, Marriage
and Death Records by Warren Blatt
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/nycv-lds.html
and also commented on extensively here in the listserv before:

NYC marriage records have two sets of marriage records for the period
starting in 1908. The data in each record are similar but not always
the same.

Health Department records are at the NYC Municipal Archives and are
available on microfilm via the LDS.

The City Clerk's marriage license records commencing in 1908 are
available only at the NYC Municipal Archives. These records often have
better information than the Health Department's records.

So---you need to check the City Clerk records (which are NOT part of
the online indexing (http://www.italiangen.org/NYCmarrigesearch.stm)
done by the Italian Genealogical Group.

Elias Savada
Bethesda MD
esavada@...

On Aug 10 2005, Debbie Skolnik wrote:

I have hit a bit of a brick wall in my search for my
grandparents' marriage certificate in either Brooklyn
or Manhatten >from 1907-1909. Using these dates is
based on info >from the 1910 Federal census, which
indicates that they were married two years when the
census was taken.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking WEINER in Massachusetts & metro NYC #general

chimes2weiner@excite.com <chimes2weiner@...>
 

I am searching again for siblings of my ggfather Charles WEINER, whom I
learned about >from his obituary in the "Lawrence (Massachusetts) Evening
Tribune" of 1923. He had 3 brothers -- Meyer, Louis and William -- in New
York City, a sister Mrs. Golda GREEN in Lawrence, and a sister Mrs. M.
BORACH of Haverhill,Massachusetts. Does this sound familiar to anybody?
According to the obit, Charles WEINER came to the U.S. 32 years before
his death (therefore, he arrived circa 1891) and seven years before his
family. The sons'naturalization papers said they came >from Sudilkov,
which I understand was in Volhynia gubernia and now is in the
present-day Ukraine.
Searching:
CHAIMOWITZ/CHIMES - Kovno, Lithuania > South Africa (Another branch apparently
from Krekenova, Lithuania to South Africa and Canada). ISRAEL - Rebecca ISRAEL
was the mother of Dora SCHWARTZMAN who married Charles WEINER; SAFER - New York
City; SCHWARTZMAN - the maiden name of Charles' wife Dora WEINER - Sudilkov>
Lawrence, Mass. and New York City; WEISS - Kroky, Russia(=Krakes, Lith.) > South
Africa, greater Boston, South America (Buenos Aires & Montevideo). Apparently the WEISS siblings all
emigrated, with the sisters marrying into the CHAIMOWITZ, GORDON & SHAPIRO
families.

Susan Weiner, Boston,Massachusetts


Seeking WEINER in Massachusetts & metro NYC #general

chimes2weiner@excite.com <chimes2weiner@...>
 

I am searching again for siblings of my ggfather Charles WEINER, whom I
learned about >from his obituary in the "Lawrence (Massachusetts) Evening
Tribune" of 1923. He had 3 brothers -- Meyer, Louis and William -- in New
York City, a sister Mrs. Golda GREEN in Lawrence, and a sister Mrs. M.
BORACH of Haverhill,Massachusetts. Does this sound familiar to anybody?
According to the obit, Charles WEINER came to the U.S. 32 years before
his death (therefore, he arrived circa 1891) and seven years before his
family. The sons'naturalization papers said they came >from Sudilkov,
which I understand was in Volhynia gubernia and now is in the
present-day Ukraine.
Searching:
CHAIMOWITZ/CHIMES - Kovno, Lithuania > South Africa (Another branch apparently
from Krekenova, Lithuania to South Africa and Canada). ISRAEL - Rebecca ISRAEL
was the mother of Dora SCHWARTZMAN who married Charles WEINER; SAFER - New York
City; SCHWARTZMAN - the maiden name of Charles' wife Dora WEINER - Sudilkov>
Lawrence, Mass. and New York City; WEISS - Kroky, Russia(=Krakes, Lith.) > South
Africa, greater Boston, South America (Buenos Aires & Montevideo). Apparently the WEISS siblings all
emigrated, with the sisters marrying into the CHAIMOWITZ, GORDON & SHAPIRO
families.

Susan Weiner, Boston,Massachusetts


Re: Negative search for grandparents' marriage certificate from NY Vital Records Dept #general

ELIAS SAVADA
 

Paraphrasing >from the info file JewishGen New York City Birth, Marriage
and Death Records by Warren Blatt
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/nycv-lds.html
and also commented on extensively here in the listserv before:

NYC marriage records have two sets of marriage records for the period
starting in 1908. The data in each record are similar but not always
the same.

Health Department records are at the NYC Municipal Archives and are
available on microfilm via the LDS.

The City Clerk's marriage license records commencing in 1908 are
available only at the NYC Municipal Archives. These records often have
better information than the Health Department's records.

So---you need to check the City Clerk records (which are NOT part of
the online indexing (http://www.italiangen.org/NYCmarrigesearch.stm)
done by the Italian Genealogical Group.

Elias Savada
Bethesda MD
esavada@...

On Aug 10 2005, Debbie Skolnik wrote:

I have hit a bit of a brick wall in my search for my
grandparents' marriage certificate in either Brooklyn
or Manhatten >from 1907-1909. Using these dates is
based on info >from the 1910 Federal census, which
indicates that they were married two years when the
census was taken.


"Zmarl" #poland

Zvi Y Gitelman <zvigitel@...>
 

Learned disquistions on "Szejma" aside, "zmarl" meands "died" in Polish.

Zvi Gitelman


JRI Poland #Poland "Szejma Zmarl" #poland

Simon Srebrny <srebrny@...>
 

Dear colleagues,

'zmarl' means, in Polish, 'died' or 'has died'. I suspect this fellow,
whatever his name, died between the time he was identified by the local
census official and the closing date for the census data.

Simon Srebrny

(in Berlin, Germany)


"Szejma Zmarl" #poland

Simon Srebrny <srebrny@...>
 

Dear colleagues,

'zmarl' means, in Polish, 'died' or 'has died'. I suspect this fellow,
whatever his name, died between the time he was identified by the local
census official and the closing date for the census data.

Simon Srebrny

(in Berlin, Germany)


Books on costume #general

elisal@...
 

Hi everyone, I am researching old family photos to help my brother with
geneology research for our family. We would like to date the photos using
the fashion our family members wore. I am looking for a good historical book
on costume for 19th - early 20th century costume for Eastern Europeans and
immigrants to the US.
I am a history major in college, but not have much so far locating a book
for the area I am researching. Anyone have any luck finding a good source?
- Elisa Lewak


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Books on costume #general

elisal@...
 

Hi everyone, I am researching old family photos to help my brother with
geneology research for our family. We would like to date the photos using
the fashion our family members wore. I am looking for a good historical book
on costume for 19th - early 20th century costume for Eastern Europeans and
immigrants to the US.
I am a history major in college, but not have much so far locating a book
for the area I am researching. Anyone have any luck finding a good source?
- Elisa Lewak


Re: ROSENHEIMS IN LONDON #unitedkingdom

Lesley Hannah <hannahl@...>
 

Sorry, Louise, I expressed myself badly. I had found Herman and several(maybe all) of his children on Jewishgen which is excellent, because they give the father's name and profession, which makes it easy. What I meant to say was on Ancestry BMD and the censuses I've found lots of other Rosenheims, all living in the same area, and involved in the same line of business, but have no way of making the link. It's these Rosenheims that I think may make the connection with Herman's wider family.

I'm fairly sure in my own mind that the Joseph Rosenheim living next door to Herman in 1871 must be related - they're in the same business for one thing. However in 1881 Joseph and his family are in Liverpool. My husband is sure there wasn't a branch of the family in Liverpool, but is he mistaken . . . ?

I'm hoping maybe someone knowing about the Liverpool Rosenheims will be able to confirm or deny the family connection, and I think this forum is the most likely place to get to know them.

Thanks for your message, and best regards
Lesley



On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:42:29 +0100 , "Louise Messik at JCR-UK" <jcr-uk-mod@...> wrote:
Dear Lesley

I am surprised you write that you have found numerous Birth, Marriage and
Death records not available on the JewishGen databases.

I have had a quick look through the All-UK and Supplementary UK databases on
JCR-UK and have come across quite a number of Rosenheims including a Herman
who is buried in Balls Pond Road Cemetery and who died on 5th February 1904
aged 70. This seems to tally with your Herman born c 1834.

I hope that this is of help to you.

Louise Messik

-----Original Message-----
From: Lesley Hannah [mailto:hannahl@...]
Sent: 11 August 2005 18:14
To: JCR-UK SIG
Subject: [jcr-uk] ROSENHEIMS IN LONDON

I'm hoping someone can help me with my husband's family. His mother was
Elsie Rosenheim, born in London 1906; her father was Willy Rosenheim, a wine
merchant born 1874 in London. I know (>from censuses) that Willy's father was
Herman Rosenheim, born in Bavaria c1834.

Unfortunately that's all I know about Willy's family. He and his family
lived in Hampstead London. I'm hoping to trace Herman's brothers and
sisters, which will be the next step in finding his parents.







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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom RE: ROSENHEIMS IN LONDON #unitedkingdom

Lesley Hannah <hannahl@...>
 

Sorry, Louise, I expressed myself badly. I had found Herman and several(maybe all) of his children on Jewishgen which is excellent, because they give the father's name and profession, which makes it easy. What I meant to say was on Ancestry BMD and the censuses I've found lots of other Rosenheims, all living in the same area, and involved in the same line of business, but have no way of making the link. It's these Rosenheims that I think may make the connection with Herman's wider family.

I'm fairly sure in my own mind that the Joseph Rosenheim living next door to Herman in 1871 must be related - they're in the same business for one thing. However in 1881 Joseph and his family are in Liverpool. My husband is sure there wasn't a branch of the family in Liverpool, but is he mistaken . . . ?

I'm hoping maybe someone knowing about the Liverpool Rosenheims will be able to confirm or deny the family connection, and I think this forum is the most likely place to get to know them.

Thanks for your message, and best regards
Lesley



On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:42:29 +0100 , "Louise Messik at JCR-UK" <jcr-uk-mod@...> wrote:
Dear Lesley

I am surprised you write that you have found numerous Birth, Marriage and
Death records not available on the JewishGen databases.

I have had a quick look through the All-UK and Supplementary UK databases on
JCR-UK and have come across quite a number of Rosenheims including a Herman
who is buried in Balls Pond Road Cemetery and who died on 5th February 1904
aged 70. This seems to tally with your Herman born c 1834.

I hope that this is of help to you.

Louise Messik

-----Original Message-----
From: Lesley Hannah [mailto:hannahl@...]
Sent: 11 August 2005 18:14
To: JCR-UK SIG
Subject: [jcr-uk] ROSENHEIMS IN LONDON

I'm hoping someone can help me with my husband's family. His mother was
Elsie Rosenheim, born in London 1906; her father was Willy Rosenheim, a wine
merchant born 1874 in London. I know (>from censuses) that Willy's father was
Herman Rosenheim, born in Bavaria c1834.

Unfortunately that's all I know about Willy's family. He and his family
lived in Hampstead London. I'm hoping to trace Herman's brothers and
sisters, which will be the next step in finding his parents.







_______________________________________________________________
Have your own email and web address for life.

http://www.homemaster.net - Homemaster. Come Together. Online.


Latvia SIG #Latvia Levenberg, Loewenberg, lavenberg, Lewenberg, Hershfeld #latvia

Debbie Barfield <dcbarfield@...>
 

I am searching for anyone related to a Sophia (Tzpka) who was
married first to a Barnet HERSHFELD and came >from Hazenpoth
which is now Aizput Latvia.
She had two children that are known a Dora Hershfeld who
married Henry Bernard COHEN and Hannah HERSHFELD who married
a Lewis RASTOFKSY.

She married a second time to a Barnet (Bear) LAVENBERG and
they are both buried in London, England.

I would also like to contact anyone related to Barnet (Bear)
LAVENBERG or LEVENBERG, LEWENBURG, LOEWENBERG, etc.

Debbie (Barfield) Cleveland
Greenville, S.C.


Levenberg, Loewenberg, lavenberg, Lewenberg, Hershfeld #latvia

Debbie Barfield <dcbarfield@...>
 

I am searching for anyone related to a Sophia (Tzpka) who was
married first to a Barnet HERSHFELD and came >from Hazenpoth
which is now Aizput Latvia.
She had two children that are known a Dora Hershfeld who
married Henry Bernard COHEN and Hannah HERSHFELD who married
a Lewis RASTOFKSY.

She married a second time to a Barnet (Bear) LAVENBERG and
they are both buried in London, England.

I would also like to contact anyone related to Barnet (Bear)
LAVENBERG or LEVENBERG, LEWENBURG, LOEWENBERG, etc.

Debbie (Barfield) Cleveland
Greenville, S.C.


Re: WWI records #germany

Andreas J Schwab <andreas.schwab@...>
 

Dear Janet,
Germany at the beginning of the 20th century was a confederation, and
each state had its own military organization with its own military
archive. In order to find any records, you must first know to which
state the unit belonged where the soldier served. Generally, it is
virtually impossible to find any record if you do not know the exact unit.

Visit the following website to learn more about German WWI records:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/genealogy/german-faq/part3/section-1.html

For Austria, contact the Austrian War Archive in Vieanna:
http://www.oesta.gv.at/ebestand/ekv/efr1_kv.htm

Here is an outline of what can be found in the Austrian War Archive
(in German):
http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/AUT/karchiv.html#k22

Andreas Schwab, suburban Montreal, Canada. email: andreas.schwab@...


German SIG #Germany Re: WWI records #germany

Andreas J Schwab <andreas.schwab@...>
 

Dear Janet,
Germany at the beginning of the 20th century was a confederation, and
each state had its own military organization with its own military
archive. In order to find any records, you must first know to which
state the unit belonged where the soldier served. Generally, it is
virtually impossible to find any record if you do not know the exact unit.

Visit the following website to learn more about German WWI records:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/genealogy/german-faq/part3/section-1.html

For Austria, contact the Austrian War Archive in Vieanna:
http://www.oesta.gv.at/ebestand/ekv/efr1_kv.htm

Here is an outline of what can be found in the Austrian War Archive
(in German):
http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/AUT/karchiv.html#k22

Andreas Schwab, suburban Montreal, Canada. email: andreas.schwab@...


Lincoln Wyatt <lincoln.wyatt@...>
 

Hi all,

I'm researching my Jewish roots for the names ISAACS and BERNSTEIN.

My GGFather Moss ISAACS b1889
Married Ada Bernstein (b1891) in the Great Synagogue in London 10 Mar 1912.
He had the following siblings:
Iseral(probably Israel) b1871
Racheal b1874
Eleazor b1876
Hannah b1877
Hyam b1879
Nancy b1880
Bew b1884
Sob b1890

Their father was Samuel Isaacs b1844
Mother Julia b1845
All living in Aldgate, Middlesex in 1901.

Ada Bernstein had 4 sisters,
Rachel b1883
Florrie b1885
Eva b1893
Annie b1881.
Their mother was Annie b1862 and their father was Barnett born around 1861.
They were all Warsaw Poland Russian Subjects.

Any assistance and matches would be gratefully received.


Best wishes,

Lincoln Wyatt
Surrey


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom INTRO #unitedkingdom

Lincoln Wyatt <lincoln.wyatt@...>
 

Hi all,

I'm researching my Jewish roots for the names ISAACS and BERNSTEIN.

My GGFather Moss ISAACS b1889
Married Ada Bernstein (b1891) in the Great Synagogue in London 10 Mar 1912.
He had the following siblings:
Iseral(probably Israel) b1871
Racheal b1874
Eleazor b1876
Hannah b1877
Hyam b1879
Nancy b1880
Bew b1884
Sob b1890

Their father was Samuel Isaacs b1844
Mother Julia b1845
All living in Aldgate, Middlesex in 1901.

Ada Bernstein had 4 sisters,
Rachel b1883
Florrie b1885
Eva b1893
Annie b1881.
Their mother was Annie b1862 and their father was Barnett born around 1861.
They were all Warsaw Poland Russian Subjects.

Any assistance and matches would be gratefully received.


Best wishes,

Lincoln Wyatt
Surrey


JRI Poland #Poland Szejma Zmarl #poland

Shari Kantrow
 

Hi,
Robert Strumwasser states on Tue, 9 Aug 2005
"I recently came across the name "Szejma Zmarl" in the
1939 Census of Biala Podlaska.After searching the Given
Names DataBase (GNDB), I've concluded that "Zmarl" is
"Shmarya." Does this appear to be correct? As for
"Szejma," I'm guessing that it's "Shmuel," as
the GNDB gives one Yiddish nickname as "Shmie."
Does anyone have any different/better thoughts?"

Just yesterday I did a soundex search for my
g-g-grandmother Sima Milbauer and the names Szejma and
Szijma came up.

Regards,
Shari Kantrow



researching:
MEYER, KAFKA, KUPFER, SCHAFF -Russian/Poland>NY
BLITZER,KARPET,JACOBSON,LANDSMAN, BLITZMAN,BLAZER
PLATZMAN, REYITTS (REIZ)Kamenets-Podolskiy, Podolia >
NY
HABERMAN,DICKMAN,SZWARZ- Bukaczowce,Siemikowce>NY
SCHNEIDER, MILBAUER, MEYER - Austria
SCHWARTZ,,SHAPIRO- Bursztyn,Kuropatniki-Galicia>NY


Szejma Zmarl #poland

Shari Kantrow
 

Hi,
Robert Strumwasser states on Tue, 9 Aug 2005
"I recently came across the name "Szejma Zmarl" in the
1939 Census of Biala Podlaska.After searching the Given
Names DataBase (GNDB), I've concluded that "Zmarl" is
"Shmarya." Does this appear to be correct? As for
"Szejma," I'm guessing that it's "Shmuel," as
the GNDB gives one Yiddish nickname as "Shmie."
Does anyone have any different/better thoughts?"

Just yesterday I did a soundex search for my
g-g-grandmother Sima Milbauer and the names Szejma and
Szijma came up.

Regards,
Shari Kantrow



researching:
MEYER, KAFKA, KUPFER, SCHAFF -Russian/Poland>NY
BLITZER,KARPET,JACOBSON,LANDSMAN, BLITZMAN,BLAZER
PLATZMAN, REYITTS (REIZ)Kamenets-Podolskiy, Podolia >
NY
HABERMAN,DICKMAN,SZWARZ- Bukaczowce,Siemikowce>NY
SCHNEIDER, MILBAUER, MEYER - Austria
SCHWARTZ,,SHAPIRO- Bursztyn,Kuropatniki-Galicia>NY