Date   

The origins of the surname of my great-grandmother CHAVA "CHACELOW" KOSSOWER #poland

Marilyn Cossever <michlah@...>
 

Perhaps someone can help me. I have been unable to discover anything about
my great-grandmother CHAVA "CHACELOW" KOSSOWER, born circa 1868. I have
checked the JRI database but did not get any results. She may have been born
in the northeast area of Russian Poland. I would appreciate any ideas on
this surname

Thanks!

Marilyn Cossever
michlah@sympatico.ca

Researching: KOSSOWER, CHACELOW, KOPYTO, LUSTYK, GOLDWAX, SHEDLACK (POLAND)
ZUSMAN, ALTROVITCH (ROMANIA)


JRI Poland #Poland The origins of the surname of my great-grandmother CHAVA "CHACELOW" KOSSOWER #poland

Marilyn Cossever <michlah@...>
 

Perhaps someone can help me. I have been unable to discover anything about
my great-grandmother CHAVA "CHACELOW" KOSSOWER, born circa 1868. I have
checked the JRI database but did not get any results. She may have been born
in the northeast area of Russian Poland. I would appreciate any ideas on
this surname

Thanks!

Marilyn Cossever
michlah@sympatico.ca

Researching: KOSSOWER, CHACELOW, KOPYTO, LUSTYK, GOLDWAX, SHEDLACK (POLAND)
ZUSMAN, ALTROVITCH (ROMANIA)


Gilene, Poland possibilities??? #poland

David Edelman <pappapeach@...>
 

I need some suggestions on this one.

I have traced my maternal grandfather, and his family, back to settlement
Ratsioshch (Raciaz) and settlement Shrensk, Poland. No problem there.
I just "met" a second cousin, who says her grandmother said that she was
from "Gilene, Poland", which is near Germany, and that she "...spoke with a
Yiddish accent typical of that area."

When I went to look up Gilene, (on my search engine), I could find nothing
even close to it.

The first question is, does this sound at all familiar to anyone? Is it
simply misspelled, or is it now known by a completely different name?
Second question, what is the relationship of this place to the two towns
named above? Would this be the (rough) equivalent of a state or province,
while Raciaz and Shrensk are cities in that state?

Thank you very much,
David Edelman,
San Francisco.
Researching:
ARNOW; FRAIDENBERG; GENIKOVA; MOSKOVICH.


JRI Poland #Poland Gilene, Poland possibilities??? #poland

David Edelman <pappapeach@...>
 

I need some suggestions on this one.

I have traced my maternal grandfather, and his family, back to settlement
Ratsioshch (Raciaz) and settlement Shrensk, Poland. No problem there.
I just "met" a second cousin, who says her grandmother said that she was
from "Gilene, Poland", which is near Germany, and that she "...spoke with a
Yiddish accent typical of that area."

When I went to look up Gilene, (on my search engine), I could find nothing
even close to it.

The first question is, does this sound at all familiar to anyone? Is it
simply misspelled, or is it now known by a completely different name?
Second question, what is the relationship of this place to the two towns
named above? Would this be the (rough) equivalent of a state or province,
while Raciaz and Shrensk are cities in that state?

Thank you very much,
David Edelman,
San Francisco.
Researching:
ARNOW; FRAIDENBERG; GENIKOVA; MOSKOVICH.


Boskowitz, Vez, Bezdekov and even Galicia are Bohmor areas #poland

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Doug MASON of Western Australia sends a first posting re his family from
Galicia and Boskowitz.

The moderator asked us to reply privately, but I would like to make a
general point, to the group as whole.

I presume he means Boskowitz, a famous centre of talmudic study and one of
the largest Jewish Communities in Moravia.

Vez is in Bohemia near the village where Gustav Mahler was born. Bezdekov
[known as Nove Strakonice] is near Strakonice in Bohemia - the centre of the
Fez manufacturing industry for the Ottoman Empire!

The names he mentions: JELLINEK, EISLER, KLEIN, BUDLOWSKI are common ones
for this area.

Hence this question should be sent to the Bohmor SIG see
http://www.jewishgen.org/bohmor/. Bohmor stands for Bohemia Moravia.
I have not yet searched the Bohmor database and message archive, but
I know there are many JELLINEK, EISLER and KLEIN links. The Boskowitz
cemetery is on line too, as far as I remember!

Even Galician Jews are "accommodated" on Bohmor, they moved to Vienna and
Bohmor - which many did. You may find relatives there.

Celia MALE [UK]


JRI Poland #Poland Boskowitz, Vez, Bezdekov and even Galicia are Bohmor areas #poland

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Doug MASON of Western Australia sends a first posting re his family from
Galicia and Boskowitz.

The moderator asked us to reply privately, but I would like to make a
general point, to the group as whole.

I presume he means Boskowitz, a famous centre of talmudic study and one of
the largest Jewish Communities in Moravia.

Vez is in Bohemia near the village where Gustav Mahler was born. Bezdekov
[known as Nove Strakonice] is near Strakonice in Bohemia - the centre of the
Fez manufacturing industry for the Ottoman Empire!

The names he mentions: JELLINEK, EISLER, KLEIN, BUDLOWSKI are common ones
for this area.

Hence this question should be sent to the Bohmor SIG see
http://www.jewishgen.org/bohmor/. Bohmor stands for Bohemia Moravia.
I have not yet searched the Bohmor database and message archive, but
I know there are many JELLINEK, EISLER and KLEIN links. The Boskowitz
cemetery is on line too, as far as I remember!

Even Galician Jews are "accommodated" on Bohmor, they moved to Vienna and
Bohmor - which many did. You may find relatives there.

Celia MALE [UK]


Hungarian Jewish Communities Home Page #hungary

= <hirsch@...>
 

I believe, it is of common interest, the HomePage of the Hungarian
Jewish Communities is renewed. Some of the information is - may be only
temporarily - missingb but there are some wider informations available.
A list and addresses of communities, a Jewish calander, Community and
Holocaust informations, news i.e. the museum opening on the 15. April
but also a new exhibition in KZ Auschwitz in Block 18 on the same date.
It is around Jom HaShoa and the March of the Living.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch


Re: JAKOB=KAROLY? #hungary

= <frishmechlis@...>
 

Dear Mr Miller,
My non-jewish name is Karl/ Karol and hebrew name Abraham-Jacob. My
ggfathers name was Karl and jewish name Josef. My fathers non-jewish name
was Josef and jewish Samuel-Joshua ...
By the way, in my town there lives a family WILLHEIM >from Slovakia.

Karl Frish
Hod-Hasharon
Israel

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Miller <mmillerMRPJD@netscape.net>
To: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:01 PM
Subject: [h-sig] JAKOB=KAROLY?


In my research of family in Komarom megye in the 1860s, the SAME men (two
different ones) appear to have been listed sometimes with the given name
Jakob (Jakab, Jacob) and sometimes Karoly (Karl, Karol). Are these two
names commonly related, or normal translations of each other? Both synagogue
and government records use both names with no pattern. Thanks for your
assistance.

Michael WILLHEIM Miller
Napa, California


Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian Jewish Communities Home Page #hungary

= <hirsch@...>
 

I believe, it is of common interest, the HomePage of the Hungarian
Jewish Communities is renewed. Some of the information is - may be only
temporarily - missingb but there are some wider informations available.
A list and addresses of communities, a Jewish calander, Community and
Holocaust informations, news i.e. the museum opening on the 15. April
but also a new exhibition in KZ Auschwitz in Block 18 on the same date.
It is around Jom HaShoa and the March of the Living.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: JAKOB=KAROLY? #hungary

= <frishmechlis@...>
 

Dear Mr Miller,
My non-jewish name is Karl/ Karol and hebrew name Abraham-Jacob. My
ggfathers name was Karl and jewish name Josef. My fathers non-jewish name
was Josef and jewish Samuel-Joshua ...
By the way, in my town there lives a family WILLHEIM >from Slovakia.

Karl Frish
Hod-Hasharon
Israel

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Miller <mmillerMRPJD@netscape.net>
To: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:01 PM
Subject: [h-sig] JAKOB=KAROLY?


In my research of family in Komarom megye in the 1860s, the SAME men (two
different ones) appear to have been listed sometimes with the given name
Jakob (Jakab, Jacob) and sometimes Karoly (Karl, Karol). Are these two
names commonly related, or normal translations of each other? Both synagogue
and government records use both names with no pattern. Thanks for your
assistance.

Michael WILLHEIM Miller
Napa, California


Re: +AFs-h-sig+AF0- MOR-first name or title? #hungary

Nitsan Richter <nitsanr@...>
 

Avraham,
Mor is a very common name in Austria Hungary. It is usuualy a shortened or
nickname for the names Mordechai or Moritz. My great grandfather was Moriz
and he was called Mor. His Hebrew name was Moshe. He came >from Burganlend,
Hungary.
Nitsan
Woodland Hills, CA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: +AFs-h-sig+AF0- MOR-first name or title? #hungary

Nitsan Richter <nitsanr@...>
 

Avraham,
Mor is a very common name in Austria Hungary. It is usuualy a shortened or
nickname for the names Mordechai or Moritz. My great grandfather was Moriz
and he was called Mor. His Hebrew name was Moshe. He came >from Burganlend,
Hungary.
Nitsan
Woodland Hills, CA


Re: MOR-first name or title? #hungary

G+AOE-bor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

I studied my book Lado J. "Magyar Utonevek". Mor is a name of his own,
it is the abreviation as well Moric and also of the Latin origin Maurus
it came >from Moor, Saracen. By the way it is frequently used in Jewish
jokes (Moricka) and one of the very popular author's first name was Mor,
Jokai Mor. Mordechai or Mordche is a Jewish name and if then very
seldomly used as secular name. It might have been different in Slovakia.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

Avraham schrieb:

I've come across names like MOR WINTNER, MOR LEFKOVIC and others only
in Slovakia. So what is it? Only a name or a title meaning teacher
like in "Mori veRabi" or the Yemenite "Mori" Can anyone enlighten me?
Avraham Ofek Netanya, Israel

Moderator VK: Mor is not an honorary title but rather a short
version of Mordechai or Mordche. My great-grandfather Markus
MOSKOVITS, who was probably born in Ungvar in about 1840 and lived in
Szobrancz, was known as Mordche and Mor. Mor seems to be a very
common masculine "nickname" in areas of Hungary now located in
eastern Slovakia.


Re: MOR-first name or title? #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Applies also as a short for "Moritz".
Robert
--- Avraham <avrofek@netvision.net.il> wrote:

I've come across names like MOR WINTNER, MOR LEFKOVIC and others only
in
Slovakia.
So what is it? Only a name or a title meaning teacher like in
+ACI-Mori veRabi+ACI-
or the Yemenite +ACI-Mori+ACI-
Can anyone enlighten me?
Avraham Ofek
Netanya, Israel

Moderator VK: Mor is not an honorary title but rather a short
version of Mordechai or Mordche. My great-grandfather Markus
MOSKOVITS, who was probably born in Ungvar in about 1840 and lived in
Szobrancz, was known as Mordche and Mor. Mor seems to be a very
common masculine "nickname" in areas of Hungary now located in
eastern Slovakia.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: MOR-first name or title? #hungary

G+AOE-bor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

I studied my book Lado J. "Magyar Utonevek". Mor is a name of his own,
it is the abreviation as well Moric and also of the Latin origin Maurus
it came >from Moor, Saracen. By the way it is frequently used in Jewish
jokes (Moricka) and one of the very popular author's first name was Mor,
Jokai Mor. Mordechai or Mordche is a Jewish name and if then very
seldomly used as secular name. It might have been different in Slovakia.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

Avraham schrieb:

I've come across names like MOR WINTNER, MOR LEFKOVIC and others only
in Slovakia. So what is it? Only a name or a title meaning teacher
like in "Mori veRabi" or the Yemenite "Mori" Can anyone enlighten me?
Avraham Ofek Netanya, Israel

Moderator VK: Mor is not an honorary title but rather a short
version of Mordechai or Mordche. My great-grandfather Markus
MOSKOVITS, who was probably born in Ungvar in about 1840 and lived in
Szobrancz, was known as Mordche and Mor. Mor seems to be a very
common masculine "nickname" in areas of Hungary now located in
eastern Slovakia.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: MOR-first name or title? #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Applies also as a short for "Moritz".
Robert
--- Avraham <avrofek@netvision.net.il> wrote:

I've come across names like MOR WINTNER, MOR LEFKOVIC and others only
in
Slovakia.
So what is it? Only a name or a title meaning teacher like in
+ACI-Mori veRabi+ACI-
or the Yemenite +ACI-Mori+ACI-
Can anyone enlighten me?
Avraham Ofek
Netanya, Israel

Moderator VK: Mor is not an honorary title but rather a short
version of Mordechai or Mordche. My great-grandfather Markus
MOSKOVITS, who was probably born in Ungvar in about 1840 and lived in
Szobrancz, was known as Mordche and Mor. Mor seems to be a very
common masculine "nickname" in areas of Hungary now located in
eastern Slovakia.


Jewish Historical and Genealogical Society of WA Inc - Feb 29 meeting #general

Robert Fraser <rwfgjf@...>
 

The Jewish Historical and Genealogical Society of Western
Australia Inc invites you to
its first event for 2004.

Guest Speaker: Dr Harry Cohen AM - "On being an Activist"

Date - Sunday February 29 2004

Time - 2pm

Venue - Jewish Community Centre, 61 Woodrow Avenue, Yokine 6060

Members: $2.00 Non-Members: $5.00. All welcome.

The Society exists to promote, encourage and foster the study of
Jewish history in Western Australia and Jewish genealogy and
family history generally. It conducts workshops, lectures and
discussions four time a year and publishes "Perth Jewish Roots"
quarterly.

Annual Membership - $10 for singles and $15 for families.

For more information, please contact:
- Michelle Urban: jhgs@iinet.net.au
- Robert Fraser: rwfgjf@iinet.net.au


Robert W Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
rwfgjf@iinet.net.au


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Historical and Genealogical Society of WA Inc - Feb 29 meeting #general

Robert Fraser <rwfgjf@...>
 

The Jewish Historical and Genealogical Society of Western
Australia Inc invites you to
its first event for 2004.

Guest Speaker: Dr Harry Cohen AM - "On being an Activist"

Date - Sunday February 29 2004

Time - 2pm

Venue - Jewish Community Centre, 61 Woodrow Avenue, Yokine 6060

Members: $2.00 Non-Members: $5.00. All welcome.

The Society exists to promote, encourage and foster the study of
Jewish history in Western Australia and Jewish genealogy and
family history generally. It conducts workshops, lectures and
discussions four time a year and publishes "Perth Jewish Roots"
quarterly.

Annual Membership - $10 for singles and $15 for families.

For more information, please contact:
- Michelle Urban: jhgs@iinet.net.au
- Robert Fraser: rwfgjf@iinet.net.au


Robert W Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
rwfgjf@iinet.net.au


Leslie MANN ? #general

walter spector <educonser@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am trying to contact Leslie MANN ? She group up in Brooklyn, the daughter
of Claire BECKER MANN. Her grandparents were Louis and Mary BECKER. Her last
residence was Atlanta Georgia.

Her grandfather and my grandmother, Ida BECKER LANDER were brother and
sister. I want to add her to the family tree that I have developed.

If anyone can provide me with information, I would greatly appreciate it.

Please, reply privately.

Thank You

Walter Spector
educonser@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Leslie MANN ? #general

walter spector <educonser@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am trying to contact Leslie MANN ? She group up in Brooklyn, the daughter
of Claire BECKER MANN. Her grandparents were Louis and Mary BECKER. Her last
residence was Atlanta Georgia.

Her grandfather and my grandmother, Ida BECKER LANDER were brother and
sister. I want to add her to the family tree that I have developed.

If anyone can provide me with information, I would greatly appreciate it.

Please, reply privately.

Thank You

Walter Spector
educonser@hotmail.com