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Thank you to everyone for the information #unitedkingdom

Sandy Crystall
 

Hello-
I want to thank everyone who confirmed that I need to order the birth
certificate to get the information I am seeking.

I had registered previously with GRO and had forgotten that! I have
ordered the certificate and we will see what it provides.

Thank you all again.

Best regards,

Sandy Crystall
New Hampshire, USA


Researching: SOBEL, PASTERNAK, GLECKEL, STUTMAN - Belozerka, Ukraine;
GLASS - Grodno, Belarus; CRYSTAL, KRISTAL - Latvia/Lithuania
(Riga/Sirvintos/Zagare?); =A0SHERMAN - London, Pasvalys(?) Lithuania;
Brooklyn, NY: Baltimore, Maryland: Los Angeles, California; LEVINSON-
Ventspils; STEINGRUB- Latvia/Lithuania

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Belozerka/


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Thank you to everyone for the information #unitedkingdom

Sandy Crystall
 

Hello-
I want to thank everyone who confirmed that I need to order the birth
certificate to get the information I am seeking.

I had registered previously with GRO and had forgotten that! I have
ordered the certificate and we will see what it provides.

Thank you all again.

Best regards,

Sandy Crystall
New Hampshire, USA


Researching: SOBEL, PASTERNAK, GLECKEL, STUTMAN - Belozerka, Ukraine;
GLASS - Grodno, Belarus; CRYSTAL, KRISTAL - Latvia/Lithuania
(Riga/Sirvintos/Zagare?); =A0SHERMAN - London, Pasvalys(?) Lithuania;
Brooklyn, NY: Baltimore, Maryland: Los Angeles, California; LEVINSON-
Ventspils; STEINGRUB- Latvia/Lithuania

http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Belozerka/


Isaac KERSTEIN - UK Naturalization Documents #general

Gina Marks <ginagem@...>
 

I recently photographed, for another researcher, the 23-page UK
naturalization file at The National Archives, of an Isaac KERSTEIN,
born 1872 and living in Barrow-in-Furness. Unfortunately, they were
not connected to this member's family after all. However, if anyone
else thinks they have this Isaac Kerstein in their family and would
like me to email the photos, please contact me off-list and I will be
happy to send them.
Regards
Gina MarksHarrow


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Isaac KERSTEIN - UK Naturalization Documents #general

Gina Marks <ginagem@...>
 

I recently photographed, for another researcher, the 23-page UK
naturalization file at The National Archives, of an Isaac KERSTEIN,
born 1872 and living in Barrow-in-Furness. Unfortunately, they were
not connected to this member's family after all. However, if anyone
else thinks they have this Isaac Kerstein in their family and would
like me to email the photos, please contact me off-list and I will be
happy to send them.
Regards
Gina MarksHarrow


"The Secret Life of a [Galitzianer] Society Maven" #galicia

Renee Steinig
 

Perhaps some of you have encountered relatives who emphasized their
"Austrian" roots, without mentioning Galicia. For sure I had that
experience. As a child I envisioned Vienna, Strauss waltzes, and
Linzer Torten. I recall the day when I finally asked my mother for
details, checked a map, and reacted in shock, "You're >from Poland?"

Some with Galitzianer roots take their identification with "Austria"
much further -- for example, Alan Feuer, whose life is described in
this New York Times story:

"The Secret Life of a Society Maven"
<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/nyregion/the-secret-life-of-alan-z-feuer.html?_r=1&emc=eta1>
(or tinyurl.com/NYT-secretlife)

Mr. Feuer's paternal grandparents were Galitzianers Samuel FEUER and
Fannie nee ROTHBART. Samuel -- per his WWII "Old Man's Draft"
registration card -- may have been born in Rudna Wielka or Rudna Mala,
Poland (c. 5 miles NW of Rzeszow). Based on what appears to be her
father's (Ascher Rothbart's) U.S. arrival record, Fannie was probably
from Mielec, Poland (another 30 or so miles NW of Rzeszow).
Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills, New York, USA
genmaven@gmail.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia "The Secret Life of a [Galitzianer] Society Maven" #galicia

Renee Steinig
 

Perhaps some of you have encountered relatives who emphasized their
"Austrian" roots, without mentioning Galicia. For sure I had that
experience. As a child I envisioned Vienna, Strauss waltzes, and
Linzer Torten. I recall the day when I finally asked my mother for
details, checked a map, and reacted in shock, "You're >from Poland?"

Some with Galitzianer roots take their identification with "Austria"
much further -- for example, Alan Feuer, whose life is described in
this New York Times story:

"The Secret Life of a Society Maven"
<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/nyregion/the-secret-life-of-alan-z-feuer.html?_r=1&emc=eta1>
(or tinyurl.com/NYT-secretlife)

Mr. Feuer's paternal grandparents were Galitzianers Samuel FEUER and
Fannie nee ROTHBART. Samuel -- per his WWII "Old Man's Draft"
registration card -- may have been born in Rudna Wielka or Rudna Mala,
Poland (c. 5 miles NW of Rzeszow). Based on what appears to be her
father's (Ascher Rothbart's) U.S. arrival record, Fannie was probably
from Mielec, Poland (another 30 or so miles NW of Rzeszow).
Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills, New York, USA
genmaven@gmail.com


Re: Is my haplotype consistent with Jewish roots? #dna

elanc@...
 

Bill Saslow wrote:

My test results >from the Genographic project put me at Haplotype G
(M168=>M89=>M201). This gets my ancestors to the Caucusus (black sea)
close to the Ukrainian towns I know and love. Unclear how to interpret
the lack of biblical Jewish migration routes.

Are there other Jews with Haplotype G? How do they reconcile their roots
from the DNA?
===

Haplogroup G is definitely consistent with Jewish roots. About 10% of
all Jewish men are in group G. My own haplogroup is G2c, which is a
subset of G and is practically 100% eastern European Jewish Ashkenazi.

You have to put the timelines - biblical/historic vs. genetic/prehistoric,
in proper perspective. Haplogroup G and all other major haplogroups were
formed in prehistoric times, long before the biblical narrative or the
Jewish people existed. Your G ancestors in Ukraine did not migrate
directly >from the Caucasus. If G did originate in the Caucasus, its
members migrated throughout the middle east at first. Some of them, not
all, became Jewish and blended with the Jewish population in the land of
Israel. Later they were exiled and spread throughout the world. Some of
them ultimately reached Ukraine. Jewish haplogroup G members were well
mixed with the rest of the Jewish population well before they found a
home in the Ukraine.

Elan Caspi
El Cerrito, CA


DNA Research #DNA Re: Is my haplotype consistent with Jewish roots? #dna

elanc@...
 

Bill Saslow wrote:

My test results >from the Genographic project put me at Haplotype G
(M168=>M89=>M201). This gets my ancestors to the Caucusus (black sea)
close to the Ukrainian towns I know and love. Unclear how to interpret
the lack of biblical Jewish migration routes.

Are there other Jews with Haplotype G? How do they reconcile their roots
from the DNA?
===

Haplogroup G is definitely consistent with Jewish roots. About 10% of
all Jewish men are in group G. My own haplogroup is G2c, which is a
subset of G and is practically 100% eastern European Jewish Ashkenazi.

You have to put the timelines - biblical/historic vs. genetic/prehistoric,
in proper perspective. Haplogroup G and all other major haplogroups were
formed in prehistoric times, long before the biblical narrative or the
Jewish people existed. Your G ancestors in Ukraine did not migrate
directly >from the Caucasus. If G did originate in the Caucasus, its
members migrated throughout the middle east at first. Some of them, not
all, became Jewish and blended with the Jewish population in the land of
Israel. Later they were exiled and spread throughout the world. Some of
them ultimately reached Ukraine. Jewish haplogroup G members were well
mixed with the rest of the Jewish population well before they found a
home in the Ukraine.

Elan Caspi
El Cerrito, CA


Magen David / Hamsa #scandinavia

Brian Pears <brian@...>
 

Hi

I've posted an image of a pendant which is in the form of a Magen
David/ Hamsa. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=22589

Can anyone please tell me anything about this pendant?
What sort of person would have owned it, what its significance was,
where it was made and when etc? I'm hoping it may give me some clues
about the birthplace and religion of its original owner, who I
believe was either my gt gt grandfather Charles Stephen FRIEDMAN/
FREEDMAN/FREEMAN (born Gothenburg, Sweden? c1842) or his wife
Susannah SPEAKMAN (born Leeds, England c1842). A detailed
description of the pendant and a link to further information about
Charles is given on the Viewmate page.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK)


Magen David / Hamsa #sephardic

Brian Pears <brian@...>
 

Hi

I've posted an image of a pendant which is in the form of a Magen
David/ Hamsa - which I am given to understand is a Sephardic
symbol. The image is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=22589

Can anyone please tell me anything about this pendant?
What sort of person would have owned it, what its significance was,
where it was made and when etc? I'm hoping it may give me some clues
about the birthplace and religion of its original owner, who I
believe was either my gt gt grandfather Charles Stephen FRIEDMAN/
FREEDMAN/FREEMAN (born Gothenburg, Sweden? c1842) or his wife
Susannah SPEAKMAN (born Leeds, England c1842). A detailed
description of the pendant and a link to further information about
Charles is given on the Viewmate page.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK)


Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia Magen David / Hamsa #scandinavia

Brian Pears <brian@...>
 

Hi

I've posted an image of a pendant which is in the form of a Magen
David/ Hamsa. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=22589

Can anyone please tell me anything about this pendant?
What sort of person would have owned it, what its significance was,
where it was made and when etc? I'm hoping it may give me some clues
about the birthplace and religion of its original owner, who I
believe was either my gt gt grandfather Charles Stephen FRIEDMAN/
FREEDMAN/FREEMAN (born Gothenburg, Sweden? c1842) or his wife
Susannah SPEAKMAN (born Leeds, England c1842). A detailed
description of the pendant and a link to further information about
Charles is given on the Viewmate page.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK)


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Magen David / Hamsa #sephardic

Brian Pears <brian@...>
 

Hi

I've posted an image of a pendant which is in the form of a Magen
David/ Hamsa - which I am given to understand is a Sephardic
symbol. The image is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=22589

Can anyone please tell me anything about this pendant?
What sort of person would have owned it, what its significance was,
where it was made and when etc? I'm hoping it may give me some clues
about the birthplace and religion of its original owner, who I
believe was either my gt gt grandfather Charles Stephen FRIEDMAN/
FREEDMAN/FREEMAN (born Gothenburg, Sweden? c1842) or his wife
Susannah SPEAKMAN (born Leeds, England c1842). A detailed
description of the pendant and a link to further information about
Charles is given on the Viewmate page.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.

Brian Pears (Gateshead, UK)


Re: Descendants of Shakhna HOROWITZ #rabbinic

Moishe Miller
 

Hi,

I will try to pass your inquiry to Rabbi Rabinowitz, who has a
"shteibel" (shul) here in Flatbush (Brooklyn, NY) called Monastrysche.
His grandfather was "Ruv" (Rabbi) in Monastrysche.

Moishe Miller
moishe.miller@totalben.com
Brooklyn, NY

-------- Original Message --------
From: "Betty Ross" <bettyross18@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, April 26, 2012 12:15 pm

I am trying to find information about the descendants of my
ggrandfather, Shakhna HOROWITZ, who was born ca. 1830. The
family's ancestral towns were Lukashevka, Monastrysche and
Zhashkov....


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic RE: Descendants of Shakhna HOROWITZ #rabbinic

Moishe Miller
 

Hi,

I will try to pass your inquiry to Rabbi Rabinowitz, who has a
"shteibel" (shul) here in Flatbush (Brooklyn, NY) called Monastrysche.
His grandfather was "Ruv" (Rabbi) in Monastrysche.

Moishe Miller
moishe.miller@totalben.com
Brooklyn, NY

-------- Original Message --------
From: "Betty Ross" <bettyross18@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, April 26, 2012 12:15 pm

I am trying to find information about the descendants of my
ggrandfather, Shakhna HOROWITZ, who was born ca. 1830. The
family's ancestral towns were Lukashevka, Monastrysche and
Zhashkov....


Boston death certificate request #general

Robert Heyman <genealogy@...>
 

I was wondering if anyone in Boston would be willing to search for a
death certificate for me? I'm looking for Joseph HUBERMAN. He was
born approximately 1857. He left Newark in 1912 to live in Boston.
I can't find him in the 1920 census, so I'm assuming there's a
reasonable chance he died before then.

Robert Heyman
Silver Spring, MD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Boston death certificate request #general

Robert Heyman <genealogy@...>
 

I was wondering if anyone in Boston would be willing to search for a
death certificate for me? I'm looking for Joseph HUBERMAN. He was
born approximately 1857. He left Newark in 1912 to live in Boston.
I can't find him in the 1920 census, so I'm assuming there's a
reasonable chance he died before then.

Robert Heyman
Silver Spring, MD


Help on Immigration Records #general

Lisa Cohn
 

Hello,
I'm a little stumped on finding Immigration records for one branch
of my family. I'm hoping for some pointers. Naturalization records
are out, because it looks like (according to various censuses), they
never became citizens. Is there a record of resident aliens?

Abraham Eukoseil Swoff and his wife, Celia (Weiner) Swoff came over
from Lithuania/Russia in 1890 (although another census gives it as
1893). They came over with their 6 year old son, Barnett.

The name tends to change which is part of my difficulty. Ages are
changing. I'd like to know how they got here. My ultimate goal is to
figure out what the name was before they came over, so I can find them.
I would have thought it'd be easy enough as I know they came >from a
tiny town in Lithuania, called Zagare.

In 1900 census, Barnett was staying at the NY Institutute for the Deaf
and Dumb. He was 16, it said, and came over in 1890. His last name was
given as Zwoffe. My grandfather, Sam Swoff, was born later, and his
name was given as Zwab in on his birth certificate.

In 1910, Abraham had already died and Celia was head of household. (He
died in 1906 and I have that info >from his tombstone)

In 1910, Celia is 42. In 1920 census, she's 45 and the immigration year
is 1893. In 1940, she's 70.

----
I can't find Abraham and Celia Swoff in 1900, although I have Barnett at
the NY Institute for the Deaf & Dumb. Maybe since they had just arrived?

I can't find them in the 1930 census, even though they should be there,
with a few more kids (Lena, Louis, Samuel, Mollie...)

And I can't find any immigration records for them.

Any tips for me?

Thanks,
Lisa Cohn, NJ

LITMAN - Novoselitsa, Bucharest, Chernovitz, Reni (Romania)
COHN - Botosani, Chernovitz, (Romania)
RUBIN/KANTOR/SWOFF - Zagare, Lithuania


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help on Immigration Records #general

Lisa Cohn
 

Hello,
I'm a little stumped on finding Immigration records for one branch
of my family. I'm hoping for some pointers. Naturalization records
are out, because it looks like (according to various censuses), they
never became citizens. Is there a record of resident aliens?

Abraham Eukoseil Swoff and his wife, Celia (Weiner) Swoff came over
from Lithuania/Russia in 1890 (although another census gives it as
1893). They came over with their 6 year old son, Barnett.

The name tends to change which is part of my difficulty. Ages are
changing. I'd like to know how they got here. My ultimate goal is to
figure out what the name was before they came over, so I can find them.
I would have thought it'd be easy enough as I know they came >from a
tiny town in Lithuania, called Zagare.

In 1900 census, Barnett was staying at the NY Institutute for the Deaf
and Dumb. He was 16, it said, and came over in 1890. His last name was
given as Zwoffe. My grandfather, Sam Swoff, was born later, and his
name was given as Zwab in on his birth certificate.

In 1910, Abraham had already died and Celia was head of household. (He
died in 1906 and I have that info >from his tombstone)

In 1910, Celia is 42. In 1920 census, she's 45 and the immigration year
is 1893. In 1940, she's 70.

----
I can't find Abraham and Celia Swoff in 1900, although I have Barnett at
the NY Institute for the Deaf & Dumb. Maybe since they had just arrived?

I can't find them in the 1930 census, even though they should be there,
with a few more kids (Lena, Louis, Samuel, Mollie...)

And I can't find any immigration records for them.

Any tips for me?

Thanks,
Lisa Cohn, NJ

LITMAN - Novoselitsa, Bucharest, Chernovitz, Reni (Romania)
COHN - Botosani, Chernovitz, (Romania)
RUBIN/KANTOR/SWOFF - Zagare, Lithuania


Record of Rabbi Abraham ROSENSTEIN, Boston area, circa 1900 #general

Dresslers <susan.dressler10@...>
 

I am trying to locate Rabbi Abraham Rosenstein's orthodox schul
in the Boston area around 1900-1910. He immigrated >from Kiev,
Russia and his father was Samuel ROSENSTEIN. He married and had
two children: Frances and Nathan. If anyone has knowledge of a
list of orthodox schuls and can pass that along to me, I'd be
very appreciative.

Susan Dressler

ALTSCHULER: Vilna, Russia; GORODKIN: Kherson, Russia; MORGEN>MORGAN:
Pollone, Russia; ROSENSTEIN: Kiev, Russia; SIFRIN: Vilna, Russia;
STERNBERG>STERN: Birlad, Romania


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Record of Rabbi Abraham ROSENSTEIN, Boston area, circa 1900 #general

Dresslers <susan.dressler10@...>
 

I am trying to locate Rabbi Abraham Rosenstein's orthodox schul
in the Boston area around 1900-1910. He immigrated >from Kiev,
Russia and his father was Samuel ROSENSTEIN. He married and had
two children: Frances and Nathan. If anyone has knowledge of a
list of orthodox schuls and can pass that along to me, I'd be
very appreciative.

Susan Dressler

ALTSCHULER: Vilna, Russia; GORODKIN: Kherson, Russia; MORGEN>MORGAN:
Pollone, Russia; ROSENSTEIN: Kiev, Russia; SIFRIN: Vilna, Russia;
STERNBERG>STERN: Birlad, Romania

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