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Kiev Vedomosti #ukraine

ADAVIS <ADAVIS@...>
 

The Belarus SIG has had some success with the NY public library with these
sources.

It would be worthwhile to find out if they have these records on microfilm.
If not, they might be pursuaded to purchase them were the case made that
there was significant interest...

Just a thought.

Adam Davis
Chicago


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kiev Vedomosti #ukraine

ADAVIS <ADAVIS@...>
 

The Belarus SIG has had some success with the NY public library with these
sources.

It would be worthwhile to find out if they have these records on microfilm.
If not, they might be pursuaded to purchase them were the case made that
there was significant interest...

Just a thought.

Adam Davis
Chicago


Yeshivot in Volhynia #ukraine

Lillian Faffer
 

Reply to message number 10 >from Tish Shapiro inquiring about Yeshivot in
Volhynia- I am replying to entire list because I believe that the answer
will be of interest to many of the subscribers

There were no Yeshivot in the Ukraine >from the late 19th century on. My
grandfather told me that all of the Yeshivot were closed by an edict of
the Czar, (I forget the exact date of the edict, but I did check it out
in various history books) and because there were no local Yeshivot, he
was sent shortly after his Bar Mitzvah in June 1894 to study at Telz in
Lithuania. The trip to Telz >from the Ukraine took three days and two
nights by train, and he returned home only two times before immigrating
to the US in 1903.

Lillian Faffer
lfaffer@juno.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Yeshivot in Volhynia #ukraine

Lillian Faffer
 

Reply to message number 10 >from Tish Shapiro inquiring about Yeshivot in
Volhynia- I am replying to entire list because I believe that the answer
will be of interest to many of the subscribers

There were no Yeshivot in the Ukraine >from the late 19th century on. My
grandfather told me that all of the Yeshivot were closed by an edict of
the Czar, (I forget the exact date of the edict, but I did check it out
in various history books) and because there were no local Yeshivot, he
was sent shortly after his Bar Mitzvah in June 1894 to study at Telz in
Lithuania. The trip to Telz >from the Ukraine took three days and two
nights by train, and he returned home only two times before immigrating
to the US in 1903.

Lillian Faffer
lfaffer@juno.com


VISSOTSKY family in Pinsk #belarus

Micheline GUTMANN <MichelineGUTMANN@...>
 

Dear all,

I recently subscribed to Belarus SIG. I did not before because
I always miss time for my own genealogy.

It is my first message to this forum.

I sent to Elsebeth the history of one part of my ancestor in Pinsk,
the VISSOTSKY family, and photos. I give here a very short abstract
a more complete one will probably arrive soon on Belarus website.
I also add the list of all the VISSOTSKYs of Pinsk I could get
from Censuses.
My great-grand father, Mosche VISSOTSKY was a carpenter in Pinsk
he married tree times. first my ggrandmother Dobruschka BREGMAN,
she died after 5 children. The second wife was her sister Lea
who was the widow of Moses JASELMAN. They had one son Shimon who
went to USA.

The first wife was probably a VISSOTSKY.
Mosche died in 1917 .

When I have more time, I'll write what all what I know of the BREGMAN
branch.

Micheline GUTMANN, GenAmi, Paris, France


Belarus SIG #Belarus VISSOTSKY family in Pinsk #belarus

Micheline GUTMANN <MichelineGUTMANN@...>
 

Dear all,

I recently subscribed to Belarus SIG. I did not before because
I always miss time for my own genealogy.

It is my first message to this forum.

I sent to Elsebeth the history of one part of my ancestor in Pinsk,
the VISSOTSKY family, and photos. I give here a very short abstract
a more complete one will probably arrive soon on Belarus website.
I also add the list of all the VISSOTSKYs of Pinsk I could get
from Censuses.
My great-grand father, Mosche VISSOTSKY was a carpenter in Pinsk
he married tree times. first my ggrandmother Dobruschka BREGMAN,
she died after 5 children. The second wife was her sister Lea
who was the widow of Moses JASELMAN. They had one son Shimon who
went to USA.

The first wife was probably a VISSOTSKY.
Mosche died in 1917 .

When I have more time, I'll write what all what I know of the BREGMAN
branch.

Micheline GUTMANN, GenAmi, Paris, France


Re: [Re: [query: Anyone else have mtDNA haplotype H with 3 C mutations on 189, 356, 362]] #dna

judy snyder <jart59@...>
 

Mr.Greenspan,
Thank you for the information. I am beginning to understand this
a little more.
Thanks, Judy




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DNA Research #DNA Re: [Re: [query: Anyone else have mtDNA haplotype H with 3 C mutations on 189, 356, 362]] #dna

judy snyder <jart59@...>
 

Mr.Greenspan,
Thank you for the information. I am beginning to understand this
a little more.
Thanks, Judy




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Re: RUBENS & CAHN in Johannesburg #southafrica

Louis Zetler <zetler@...>
 

I was the chairman of the Etz Chayim Hebrew Congregation in Berea,
Johannesburg for a few years. This congregation was established and
consisted mainly of German Jews and their descendents who arrived in South
Africa on a ship, the name of which escapes me at present, about 1938. Most
of the surnames mentioned in Shmuel's letter are familiar to me, but not the
individuals, as I went to Johannesburg only in 1976.

There was a Cahn family that I knew personally. The old generation have all
since passed on.
There was an elderly man Falk who probably passed away during the 80's who
was a member of the congregation. There is still an Advocate Rubens who
practices as such in Johannesburg, but I do not know if he is related.

If you can make contact with Gunter Sampson you may be able to get some
valuable info >from him. He was one of those that came on the ship that I
referred to above.

Louis Zetler
Hoshaya, Israel


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: RUBENS & CAHN in Johannesburg #southafrica

Louis Zetler <zetler@...>
 

I was the chairman of the Etz Chayim Hebrew Congregation in Berea,
Johannesburg for a few years. This congregation was established and
consisted mainly of German Jews and their descendents who arrived in South
Africa on a ship, the name of which escapes me at present, about 1938. Most
of the surnames mentioned in Shmuel's letter are familiar to me, but not the
individuals, as I went to Johannesburg only in 1976.

There was a Cahn family that I knew personally. The old generation have all
since passed on.
There was an elderly man Falk who probably passed away during the 80's who
was a member of the congregation. There is still an Advocate Rubens who
practices as such in Johannesburg, but I do not know if he is related.

If you can make contact with Gunter Sampson you may be able to get some
valuable info >from him. He was one of those that came on the ship that I
referred to above.

Louis Zetler
Hoshaya, Israel


JGSLA Meeting --January 28, 2001 #general

Jan Meisels Allen <janmallen@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Los Angeles is meeting on Sunday January
28, 2001 at 1:30 p.m.. The program is:

Needling In a Haystack:
Making the Most of a Research-Based Trip to Your Ancestral Shtetl

The speaker is Marco Weinman a UCLA graduate of Linguistic Anthropology and
JGSLA member who has done personal genealogical research in Poland, Belarus
and the Ukraine.

Many of us have yearnings to visit the Old World shtetls of our ancestors
and with Eastern Europe and Russia becoming more accessible to Westerners
such travel has now become possible. Although shtetls of yore have not
survived the ravages of war and time, much of genealogical and historical
value has, and is there to be discovered by those diligent and eager enough
to search for it in person. Key to making the research-based trip
successful is understanding more about how the Polish and post-Soviet
archives operate, their accessibility to foreigners, what types of records
can be found in them and what remnants of a vanished Jewish culture can be
realistically expected to be found in our ancestral shtetls.

Location: Valley Cities Jewish Community Center
13164 Burbank Blvd. Van Nuys, CA

Fee: none: Non-members welcome

For more information on the JGSLA, please visit our website at:
http://www.jgsla.org

Jan Meisels Allen
VP Programs, JGSLA
Agoura Hills, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSLA Meeting --January 28, 2001 #general

Jan Meisels Allen <janmallen@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Los Angeles is meeting on Sunday January
28, 2001 at 1:30 p.m.. The program is:

Needling In a Haystack:
Making the Most of a Research-Based Trip to Your Ancestral Shtetl

The speaker is Marco Weinman a UCLA graduate of Linguistic Anthropology and
JGSLA member who has done personal genealogical research in Poland, Belarus
and the Ukraine.

Many of us have yearnings to visit the Old World shtetls of our ancestors
and with Eastern Europe and Russia becoming more accessible to Westerners
such travel has now become possible. Although shtetls of yore have not
survived the ravages of war and time, much of genealogical and historical
value has, and is there to be discovered by those diligent and eager enough
to search for it in person. Key to making the research-based trip
successful is understanding more about how the Polish and post-Soviet
archives operate, their accessibility to foreigners, what types of records
can be found in them and what remnants of a vanished Jewish culture can be
realistically expected to be found in our ancestral shtetls.

Location: Valley Cities Jewish Community Center
13164 Burbank Blvd. Van Nuys, CA

Fee: none: Non-members welcome

For more information on the JGSLA, please visit our website at:
http://www.jgsla.org

Jan Meisels Allen
VP Programs, JGSLA
Agoura Hills, CA


JGS of SW FL Meeting on Jan. 21 #general

Kim Sheintal
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

If you are going to be in the Sarasota-Manatee area on Sunday, January 21,
2001, please join us at 1:00 PM at the JCC, 582 S. McIntosh Road, Sarasota
for our JGS of SW Florida meeting.

Our featured speaker is Howard Margol, President of IAJGS (International
Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies). Also we have as our special
guest Michael Brenner (a director-at-large of the IAJGS and a past president
of JGS of NY).

Kim Sheintal, President
Jewish Genealogical Society of Southwest Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of SW FL Meeting on Jan. 21 #general

Kim Sheintal
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

If you are going to be in the Sarasota-Manatee area on Sunday, January 21,
2001, please join us at 1:00 PM at the JCC, 582 S. McIntosh Road, Sarasota
for our JGS of SW Florida meeting.

Our featured speaker is Howard Margol, President of IAJGS (International
Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies). Also we have as our special
guest Michael Brenner (a director-at-large of the IAJGS and a past president
of JGS of NY).

Kim Sheintal, President
Jewish Genealogical Society of Southwest Florida


JGS-MI Meeting - January 21st #general

Marc D. Manson <mdmcousa@...>
 

The JGS of Michigan will be having a library / research meeting on Sunday,
January 21st >from 12:30pm to 3:00pm at its library at Temple Beth El.

Jim Grey will be speaking on how to plan a family reunion. We have many
new additions to our library collection and all are invited to attend.

Temple Beth El is located at the northwest corner of Telegraph and
14 Mile Road.
Marc D. Manson

MAN'SKIJ>MANSKY>MANSON (Volkovysk; Slonim, Belarus)
WAGNER (Austria; Ft.Wayne, IN; Toledo, OH)
MAC>MATZ (Skaryszew;Radom; Poland) POMERANTZ (Brest-Litovsk - Belarus)
TURUFF--TUREFF (Russia; New York) BROCK (New York)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS-MI Meeting - January 21st #general

Marc D. Manson <mdmcousa@...>
 

The JGS of Michigan will be having a library / research meeting on Sunday,
January 21st >from 12:30pm to 3:00pm at its library at Temple Beth El.

Jim Grey will be speaking on how to plan a family reunion. We have many
new additions to our library collection and all are invited to attend.

Temple Beth El is located at the northwest corner of Telegraph and
14 Mile Road.
Marc D. Manson

MAN'SKIJ>MANSKY>MANSON (Volkovysk; Slonim, Belarus)
WAGNER (Austria; Ft.Wayne, IN; Toledo, OH)
MAC>MATZ (Skaryszew;Radom; Poland) POMERANTZ (Brest-Litovsk - Belarus)
TURUFF--TUREFF (Russia; New York) BROCK (New York)


JGS of Georgia January Meeting #general

Sandi Goldsmith
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Georgia invites you to our January
meeting.

Date: Sunday, January 21, 2001

Place: Cobb County Library

Time: 2:00PM to 5:00PM.
There will be a tour of the research material beginning at 1:00 P.M.

Cobb County Library
Georgia Room
266 Roswell Street
Marietta, GA 30060
(770) 528 2320

For further information see our website at www.jgsg.org

Sandi Goldsmith - Alpharetta, GA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Georgia January Meeting #general

Sandi Goldsmith
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Georgia invites you to our January
meeting.

Date: Sunday, January 21, 2001

Place: Cobb County Library

Time: 2:00PM to 5:00PM.
There will be a tour of the research material beginning at 1:00 P.M.

Cobb County Library
Georgia Room
266 Roswell Street
Marietta, GA 30060
(770) 528 2320

For further information see our website at www.jgsg.org

Sandi Goldsmith - Alpharetta, GA


looking for relatives RUBENS CAHN in Johannesburg #southafrica

rubens shmuel <rub1@...>
 

dear SaSig-ers
my name is Shmuel Rubens, Israeli who lives now in Germany Paderborn.
in my family to which I collect now information we had two people who
went shortly before
the war to south africa, Johannesburg. I am trying to trace them and/or
their decendents.

by searching the cemetry lists >from the Jewish Cemetry Project and
comparing names
and birth dates I think I have traced their graves in the westpark
cemetry Johannesburg.
Do you know maybe if there is some genealogist or family researcher that
can look these
graves for me up and maybe take a picture of them and the script from
the stone ? ?

the names that I suspect that they are my relatives are :

1.
one is the grave of Erna Cahn, a direct cousin of my father.:
, born 24.9.1909 in Erle / raesfeld Germany
immigrated 1938 to South Africa , lived in Johannesburg
married three times . first Husband Erich Haymann , other
husbands unknown
the grave which suites this description is
DOPPELT, Erna
1909 - 17 Aug 1991
location in the cemetry according to the Cemetry project CD
l: M 446

and probably the grave of her husband:

DOPPELT, Leon
1900 - 6 Nov 1969
l: M 445

2. the second possible grave is a grave of another cousin of my father ,
Martha Falk
born Rubens.

Martha was born in 1888 in Linden Hannover
and moved to south africa , Johannesburg maybe before WW2 .
she lived some time with her cousin Erna .
she died in 1946, a fact we know >from letters >from this time


the Grave that exactly suites to this description
is the Grave of

FALK, Martha
1888 - 22 Oct 1946

location in the Cemetry westpark

l: F 78

and maybe her Husband :
FALK, Isidor
1877 c - 23 Dec 1957

location in the Cemetry westpark
l: J 322

my aim is to try to verify >from the photo or the inscript
or on the grave inscript that the maiden name of Erna Doppelt was
really Cahn,
and that the Maiden of Martha Falk was really Rubens.
and then if possible to look for possible still living relatives of them

Best regards and thanks for the help

Shmuel Rubens
holsteiner weg 37
33178 Borchen
Germany


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica looking for relatives RUBENS CAHN in Johannesburg #southafrica

rubens shmuel <rub1@...>
 

dear SaSig-ers
my name is Shmuel Rubens, Israeli who lives now in Germany Paderborn.
in my family to which I collect now information we had two people who
went shortly before
the war to south africa, Johannesburg. I am trying to trace them and/or
their decendents.

by searching the cemetry lists >from the Jewish Cemetry Project and
comparing names
and birth dates I think I have traced their graves in the westpark
cemetry Johannesburg.
Do you know maybe if there is some genealogist or family researcher that
can look these
graves for me up and maybe take a picture of them and the script from
the stone ? ?

the names that I suspect that they are my relatives are :

1.
one is the grave of Erna Cahn, a direct cousin of my father.:
, born 24.9.1909 in Erle / raesfeld Germany
immigrated 1938 to South Africa , lived in Johannesburg
married three times . first Husband Erich Haymann , other
husbands unknown
the grave which suites this description is
DOPPELT, Erna
1909 - 17 Aug 1991
location in the cemetry according to the Cemetry project CD
l: M 446

and probably the grave of her husband:

DOPPELT, Leon
1900 - 6 Nov 1969
l: M 445

2. the second possible grave is a grave of another cousin of my father ,
Martha Falk
born Rubens.

Martha was born in 1888 in Linden Hannover
and moved to south africa , Johannesburg maybe before WW2 .
she lived some time with her cousin Erna .
she died in 1946, a fact we know >from letters >from this time


the Grave that exactly suites to this description
is the Grave of

FALK, Martha
1888 - 22 Oct 1946

location in the Cemetry westpark

l: F 78

and maybe her Husband :
FALK, Isidor
1877 c - 23 Dec 1957

location in the Cemetry westpark
l: J 322

my aim is to try to verify >from the photo or the inscript
or on the grave inscript that the maiden name of Erna Doppelt was
really Cahn,
and that the Maiden of Martha Falk was really Rubens.
and then if possible to look for possible still living relatives of them

Best regards and thanks for the help

Shmuel Rubens
holsteiner weg 37
33178 Borchen
Germany