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Kalisz PSA #poland

Herbert Gursky
 

A friend of mine, Madeleine Okladek will be ordering records >from the
Kalisz PSA. Would anyone like to share in this order? If so, please
contact me and I will forward the information on to Madeleine.

Flora Gursky
Great Falls, VA


JRI Poland #Poland Kalisz PSA #poland

Herbert Gursky
 

A friend of mine, Madeleine Okladek will be ordering records >from the
Kalisz PSA. Would anyone like to share in this order? If so, please
contact me and I will forward the information on to Madeleine.

Flora Gursky
Great Falls, VA


Different middle names=same person? #lithuania

Olga Zabludoff <ozabludoff@...>
 

Elizabeth Schwartz Lourie asked in the April 28 LitvakSIG digest:

"Could Efroim Berka DUSHKES and Efroim Yankel DUSHKES (fathers of
children born Vilijampole 1857 and 1873) be the same person? Both listed as
son of Leyzer with same wife (Grune)."

Because I was involved with the Vilijampole births translation project, I
have the images of some of the original records, including those for 1857
and 1873.

The original records were recorded in both Hebrew and Russian. The two
records Elizabeth refers to above do not cite the given names Berka and
Yankel. The father is listed simply as Efroim, both in the Hebrew record
and the corresponding Russian record.

Translators do make mistakes. When common-sense doubts arise, the best way
to solve the mystery is to go back to the original record. Since the
translated record includes all the identifying data, you can request a
copy of the original record >from the archive that holds that particular
record set.

Olga Zabludoff
Washington, DC


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Different middle names=same person? #lithuania

Olga Zabludoff <ozabludoff@...>
 

Elizabeth Schwartz Lourie asked in the April 28 LitvakSIG digest:

"Could Efroim Berka DUSHKES and Efroim Yankel DUSHKES (fathers of
children born Vilijampole 1857 and 1873) be the same person? Both listed as
son of Leyzer with same wife (Grune)."

Because I was involved with the Vilijampole births translation project, I
have the images of some of the original records, including those for 1857
and 1873.

The original records were recorded in both Hebrew and Russian. The two
records Elizabeth refers to above do not cite the given names Berka and
Yankel. The father is listed simply as Efroim, both in the Hebrew record
and the corresponding Russian record.

Translators do make mistakes. When common-sense doubts arise, the best way
to solve the mystery is to go back to the original record. Since the
translated record includes all the identifying data, you can request a
copy of the original record >from the archive that holds that particular
record set.

Olga Zabludoff
Washington, DC


Telsai 1871 Military list #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

< >from "Ben Forman" ben.forman@btconnect.com
One of my ancestors appears on a military list >from 1871 for Telsai,
would more information be available about this ancestor if I were to
write to an archive? >

The Lithuanian Archives no longer honor research requests. A much better,
and less expensive, course of action is to join the LitvakSIG Telsiai
District Research Group (DRG). In return, you will have access to
thousands of translated records not only for Telsiai but also for the
entire Telsiai District. The majority of the Telsiai district records have
already been translated.

To join, go to www.litvaksig.org and click on join/contribute. Contribute
$200, designated for the Telsiai DRG, and you will be notified as to how to
access the records. Please allow time for the LitvakSIG Treasurer to
notify the District Coordinator as that is only done twice each month. Feel
free to use your credit card as the site is secure.

While you are on the site, you may want to join LitvakSIG ($36) if you are
not already a member. This will allow you to access the LitvakSIG Members
Only web site www.litvaksig.com which contains some indexes of records in
the Lithuanian archives.

Good luck in your research.

Howard Margol
LitvakSIG Coordinator for Records Acquisition


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Telsai 1871 Military list #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

< >from "Ben Forman" ben.forman@btconnect.com
One of my ancestors appears on a military list >from 1871 for Telsai,
would more information be available about this ancestor if I were to
write to an archive? >

The Lithuanian Archives no longer honor research requests. A much better,
and less expensive, course of action is to join the LitvakSIG Telsiai
District Research Group (DRG). In return, you will have access to
thousands of translated records not only for Telsiai but also for the
entire Telsiai District. The majority of the Telsiai district records have
already been translated.

To join, go to www.litvaksig.org and click on join/contribute. Contribute
$200, designated for the Telsiai DRG, and you will be notified as to how to
access the records. Please allow time for the LitvakSIG Treasurer to
notify the District Coordinator as that is only done twice each month. Feel
free to use your credit card as the site is secure.

While you are on the site, you may want to join LitvakSIG ($36) if you are
not already a member. This will allow you to access the LitvakSIG Members
Only web site www.litvaksig.com which contains some indexes of records in
the Lithuanian archives.

Good luck in your research.

Howard Margol
LitvakSIG Coordinator for Records Acquisition


Re: Boris Bobroff success story, & seeking further info #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

You may want to submit a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to
the FBI, http://foia.fbi.gov/ , regarding your grandfather.

Zev Griner

When I googled "Bobroff" together with "engineering," I suddenly found
the most extraordinary documents. It turned out that my grandfather
was deeply involved with the (illegal in the US) effort to try to
establish trade between the US and the Bolshevik government around
1920. He did this via another company I'd never heard of, his Bobroff
Foreign Trading and Engineering Company in Milwaukee. I discovered
that my grandfather was picked up by the US Bureau of Investigation on
his return >from Russia in 1920, along with various items on his
person...


Old Photos #general

Robert Dodell <DodellFamilyTree@...>
 

I have some old photos >from my Grandparents, Sarah MELTZER (Greenman) and
Murray GREENMAN. Almost all have no name of them, except the following.

Sarah Meltzer Photos: Estimate early 1920
Adele Makler
Mildred Cooperstein
Murray Greenman Photo:
Bunny Broderick: Estimate 1920s

If you recognize name, please contact me and I will send you a scan of the
photo

Robert Dodell


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Boris Bobroff success story, & seeking further info #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

You may want to submit a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to
the FBI, http://foia.fbi.gov/ , regarding your grandfather.

Zev Griner

When I googled "Bobroff" together with "engineering," I suddenly found
the most extraordinary documents. It turned out that my grandfather
was deeply involved with the (illegal in the US) effort to try to
establish trade between the US and the Bolshevik government around
1920. He did this via another company I'd never heard of, his Bobroff
Foreign Trading and Engineering Company in Milwaukee. I discovered
that my grandfather was picked up by the US Bureau of Investigation on
his return >from Russia in 1920, along with various items on his
person...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Old Photos #general

Robert Dodell <DodellFamilyTree@...>
 

I have some old photos >from my Grandparents, Sarah MELTZER (Greenman) and
Murray GREENMAN. Almost all have no name of them, except the following.

Sarah Meltzer Photos: Estimate early 1920
Adele Makler
Mildred Cooperstein
Murray Greenman Photo:
Bunny Broderick: Estimate 1920s

If you recognize name, please contact me and I will send you a scan of the
photo

Robert Dodell


Re: Recent obit - Thank You #general

Sara Lynns
 

Thank you, Judi That worked.

From: Judi Zimmer <judizimm@gmail.com> Thu, April 29, 2010
Try legacy.com.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Recent obit - Thank You #general

Sara Lynns
 

Thank you, Judi That worked.

From: Judi Zimmer <judizimm@gmail.com> Thu, April 29, 2010
Try legacy.com.


Re: ordering certificates from the Family History Library #general

phylliskramer1@...
 

Allan Jordan mentioned that you can order vital records >from the Mormon Library
in Salt Lake City; yes, that is true, but you need both the certificate number
and the microfilm number. To get the microfilm number, you need to go to the
catalog online (www.familysearch.org) and search the indexes for the city, then
find the microfilm for that year and that certificate number; I have done it.
To order the photocopies >from the Library, the instructions and a link to the
order form are on the JRI-P website;
Happy Hunting!
Phyllis Kramer, NYC & PBG, Fla
PhyllisKramer1@att.net, researching (mostly Galicia):
STECHER, TRACHMAN,>from Zmigrod,Dukla, Krosno
KRAMER, BEIM, WISNER >from Jasienica
SCHEINER, KANDEL, SCHIMMEL >from Strzyzow, Dubiecko
LINDNER, EICHEL >from Rohatyn(also Iasi, Romania)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: ordering certificates from the Family History Library #general

phylliskramer1@...
 

Allan Jordan mentioned that you can order vital records >from the Mormon Library
in Salt Lake City; yes, that is true, but you need both the certificate number
and the microfilm number. To get the microfilm number, you need to go to the
catalog online (www.familysearch.org) and search the indexes for the city, then
find the microfilm for that year and that certificate number; I have done it.
To order the photocopies >from the Library, the instructions and a link to the
order form are on the JRI-P website;
Happy Hunting!
Phyllis Kramer, NYC & PBG, Fla
PhyllisKramer1@att.net, researching (mostly Galicia):
STECHER, TRACHMAN,>from Zmigrod,Dukla, Krosno
KRAMER, BEIM, WISNER >from Jasienica
SCHEINER, KANDEL, SCHIMMEL >from Strzyzow, Dubiecko
LINDNER, EICHEL >from Rohatyn(also Iasi, Romania)


Re: NYC Archives Lookup Request #general

pookie18
 

On Apr 29, 1:34 pm, Aejordan@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 4/29/2010 GerSIG.Resea...@verizon.net writes:
The Family History Library in Salt Lake City has copies of the
microfilms that a vital-records searcher would be consulting in NYC.
Although I have not tried it personally I am also told with the certificate
numbers you can order the certificate via any Family History Library and
they will mail you the certificate for just a few dollars versus the mail
order fees >from the Municipal Archives.
Allan Jordan
I have used a local Family History Center in NJ. Supplied certificate
#s, etc., & ordered various microfilms at $5.50 each. They called me
when they came in & gave me 30 days to view them. At the center, they
showed me how to use their microfilm readers. Once I'd located the
certificates, I took it over to them & they made free copies for me.

Jamie Lubin
pookie18323@optonline.net
Searching for: SALTZMAN (Russia), KRIKUN (Russia), LUBRITSKY (Poland),
LIPSCHITZ (Poland)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC Archives Lookup Request #general

pookie18
 

On Apr 29, 1:34 pm, Aejordan@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 4/29/2010 GerSIG.Resea...@verizon.net writes:
The Family History Library in Salt Lake City has copies of the
microfilms that a vital-records searcher would be consulting in NYC.
Although I have not tried it personally I am also told with the certificate
numbers you can order the certificate via any Family History Library and
they will mail you the certificate for just a few dollars versus the mail
order fees >from the Municipal Archives.
Allan Jordan
I have used a local Family History Center in NJ. Supplied certificate
#s, etc., & ordered various microfilms at $5.50 each. They called me
when they came in & gave me 30 days to view them. At the center, they
showed me how to use their microfilm readers. Once I'd located the
certificates, I took it over to them & they made free copies for me.

Jamie Lubin
pookie18323@optonline.net
Searching for: SALTZMAN (Russia), KRIKUN (Russia), LUBRITSKY (Poland),
LIPSCHITZ (Poland)


Principialna = Propinacja #ukraine

Paul King
 

Aloha Mr. Hoffman,

In regard to your "Principialna? Jewish drink for Passover" of 29 April
2010. I believe that the reference, or at least the origin, if the diary
passage is referring to an alcoholic beverage, is the Propinacja, a variant
of what was known in the Poland and Ukraine area >from the 17th-19th century
as the arenda. The propinacja was a small unit on an estate or in a town for
the production, sale (wholesale and retail) of grain-based intoxicants.
Sales amounted to a very large percentage (40%) of income for the national
economy and they were located for the most part in areas where there was
dense Jewish settlement. The enterprises were leased by Jews >from nobles and
provide a strong case for the interdependency of the Jews and the managers
of the national economy. Because sobriety was not a virtue among the general
population, the sale of propinacja products led to unrest and sometimes
riots and the target for their responsibility was, of course, the Jews. A
treatment with ample bibliography relating to this enterprise may be found
in Hillel Levine's "Economic Origins of Anti-semitism" Yale University
Press, 1991: 140-45.

Paul King
Jerusalem

1. Re: Principialna. ?Jewish drink for Passover
In having my Grandfather's Yiddish Book translated, one of his essays
describes "Principialna," which seems to be some kind of legal, but
disgusting, beverage they drank during Passover.
Can anyone give me some information about this drink or how to find out?

Best Aloha,
Hart Hoffman, Hawaii


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Principialna = Propinacja #ukraine

Paul King
 

Aloha Mr. Hoffman,

In regard to your "Principialna? Jewish drink for Passover" of 29 April
2010. I believe that the reference, or at least the origin, if the diary
passage is referring to an alcoholic beverage, is the Propinacja, a variant
of what was known in the Poland and Ukraine area >from the 17th-19th century
as the arenda. The propinacja was a small unit on an estate or in a town for
the production, sale (wholesale and retail) of grain-based intoxicants.
Sales amounted to a very large percentage (40%) of income for the national
economy and they were located for the most part in areas where there was
dense Jewish settlement. The enterprises were leased by Jews >from nobles and
provide a strong case for the interdependency of the Jews and the managers
of the national economy. Because sobriety was not a virtue among the general
population, the sale of propinacja products led to unrest and sometimes
riots and the target for their responsibility was, of course, the Jews. A
treatment with ample bibliography relating to this enterprise may be found
in Hillel Levine's "Economic Origins of Anti-semitism" Yale University
Press, 1991: 140-45.

Paul King
Jerusalem

1. Re: Principialna. ?Jewish drink for Passover
In having my Grandfather's Yiddish Book translated, one of his essays
describes "Principialna," which seems to be some kind of legal, but
disgusting, beverage they drank during Passover.
Can anyone give me some information about this drink or how to find out?

Best Aloha,
Hart Hoffman, Hawaii


Searching: ABRAMIS, Vitebsk/Minsk, Synagogue Closing Gorodok 1938 #belarus

gman425@...
 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Gary Kass <gman425@nyc.com>
Date: Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:59 AM
Subject: Belarus genealogy
To: belarus@lyris.jewishgen.org


I recently came across a list of Jewish residents of Gorodok who
signed the protocols on closing the local synagogues in 1938. Two of
the residents were Masha Movshevna Abramis and Hana Dovydovna Abramis.
My maternal great-grandmother's maiden name was Muska Abramis. As far
as I know,my maternal grandmother was >from the Vitebsk/Minsk
region,which is not far >from Gorodok. I have two questions.
1)What does signing the protocols mean? Did these people support
closing the synagogues?
2)Does anybody know if Muska was related to Masha and/or Hana?
Any information that can be provided,whether it helps in my
genealogical research or not,is greatly appreciated.

Gary Kass
New York
MODERATOR NOTE: Please send family information privately.
General information may be posted to the list.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching: ABRAMIS, Vitebsk/Minsk, Synagogue Closing Gorodok 1938 #belarus

gman425@...
 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Gary Kass <gman425@nyc.com>
Date: Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:59 AM
Subject: Belarus genealogy
To: belarus@lyris.jewishgen.org


I recently came across a list of Jewish residents of Gorodok who
signed the protocols on closing the local synagogues in 1938. Two of
the residents were Masha Movshevna Abramis and Hana Dovydovna Abramis.
My maternal great-grandmother's maiden name was Muska Abramis. As far
as I know,my maternal grandmother was >from the Vitebsk/Minsk
region,which is not far >from Gorodok. I have two questions.
1)What does signing the protocols mean? Did these people support
closing the synagogues?
2)Does anybody know if Muska was related to Masha and/or Hana?
Any information that can be provided,whether it helps in my
genealogical research or not,is greatly appreciated.

Gary Kass
New York
MODERATOR NOTE: Please send family information privately.
General information may be posted to the list.