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RESEARCHING ENGEL
#hungary
ruebin7@...
Hi All.
I am trying to find family of my GREAT GREAT AUNT , NETTI GOLD born in 1840 in GYOR, she MARRIED KAROLY ENGEL and they had 10 children. I have found records a bit scarse. I have found however on Jewish Gen, that a Daughter Gizella, married a Daniel Deutsch , in Gyor on 25-Aug-1889. If anyone has a connection to the 10 "ENGEL" Children I would like very much to hear >from you. Researching >from the GYOR /PAPA area ..GOLD, STRASSER, ENGEL, MAYER, BREUER , SCHISCHA , KRACKAUER Thanks Regards Ron Bower ( Bauer) Melbourne AUSTRALIA Moderator: Please contact Ron off-list if you have information.
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Hungary SIG #Hungary RESEARCHING ENGEL
#hungary
ruebin7@...
Hi All.
I am trying to find family of my GREAT GREAT AUNT , NETTI GOLD born in 1840 in GYOR, she MARRIED KAROLY ENGEL and they had 10 children. I have found records a bit scarse. I have found however on Jewish Gen, that a Daughter Gizella, married a Daniel Deutsch , in Gyor on 25-Aug-1889. If anyone has a connection to the 10 "ENGEL" Children I would like very much to hear >from you. Researching >from the GYOR /PAPA area ..GOLD, STRASSER, ENGEL, MAYER, BREUER , SCHISCHA , KRACKAUER Thanks Regards Ron Bower ( Bauer) Melbourne AUSTRALIA Moderator: Please contact Ron off-list if you have information.
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Adoption dates for Jewish surnames
#hungary
dan.haas@...
In response to Alex Miller's post, I have looked at the 1720 census search indicated for a few towns and villages in Poszony and in Trencsen where I have much more familiarity. Yes, they all have surnames, but no, the vast majority of these names are not Jewish.
Most names listed are Hungarian, Slavonic, Polish, German and Latin but the only one I found which is unmistakeably Jewish is JOSEPHUS JUDAEUS, Latin for 'Joseph the Jew'. I have done some transcribing of Conscriptio Judaeorum data (Jewish Tolerance Tax records) >from 1771-3 and searched 1795 data and the Jewish names in these are very different >from the names in this 1720 data. They are very different groups of people. The headings in this 1720 record seem to refer to 'Taxpayers' and 'Cottagers'. I am no expert on Hungarian financial history but I guess that this 1720 record is of taxpayers who had some relationship to their land that made them liable for tax on it. They are not the land owners as such as there is a distinct absence of aristocratic titles and Hungary had a basically feudal land ownership system whereby the numerous Counts and Dukes owned all the land and at this time, did not pay tax on it. Everyone else had to rent land if they could afford it (this group) or merely work the land for others (many as serfs who were tied to the land and could not leave without buying their freedom). Jews had to pay much higher taxes which were collected separately through the Conscriptio Judaeorum at different dates. So I do not think this data provides any evidence for widespread use of Jewish surnames in 1720. I have no doubt that prior to the 1781-2 Edict of Toleration issued by Emperor Joseph II, the vast majority of Jews stuck to traditional patronyms, which change at every generation. Hence I have found several HAAS ancestors in the 1795 CJ record for Varin, Trencsen megye, but in the 1771-3 data there are very few surnames of any sort. There are many second names that end in 'OVITS' meaning 'son of' but they are patronyms, not permanent surnames. I hope this helps Dan Haas Winchester GB Researching HAAS, FEUERMANN, KLEIN, LINKS, MEISEL in Trencsen & Turocz megye
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Adoption dates for Jewish surnames
#hungary
dan.haas@...
In response to Alex Miller's post, I have looked at the 1720 census search indicated for a few towns and villages in Poszony and in Trencsen where I have much more familiarity. Yes, they all have surnames, but no, the vast majority of these names are not Jewish.
Most names listed are Hungarian, Slavonic, Polish, German and Latin but the only one I found which is unmistakeably Jewish is JOSEPHUS JUDAEUS, Latin for 'Joseph the Jew'. I have done some transcribing of Conscriptio Judaeorum data (Jewish Tolerance Tax records) >from 1771-3 and searched 1795 data and the Jewish names in these are very different >from the names in this 1720 data. They are very different groups of people. The headings in this 1720 record seem to refer to 'Taxpayers' and 'Cottagers'. I am no expert on Hungarian financial history but I guess that this 1720 record is of taxpayers who had some relationship to their land that made them liable for tax on it. They are not the land owners as such as there is a distinct absence of aristocratic titles and Hungary had a basically feudal land ownership system whereby the numerous Counts and Dukes owned all the land and at this time, did not pay tax on it. Everyone else had to rent land if they could afford it (this group) or merely work the land for others (many as serfs who were tied to the land and could not leave without buying their freedom). Jews had to pay much higher taxes which were collected separately through the Conscriptio Judaeorum at different dates. So I do not think this data provides any evidence for widespread use of Jewish surnames in 1720. I have no doubt that prior to the 1781-2 Edict of Toleration issued by Emperor Joseph II, the vast majority of Jews stuck to traditional patronyms, which change at every generation. Hence I have found several HAAS ancestors in the 1795 CJ record for Varin, Trencsen megye, but in the 1771-3 data there are very few surnames of any sort. There are many second names that end in 'OVITS' meaning 'son of' but they are patronyms, not permanent surnames. I hope this helps Dan Haas Winchester GB Researching HAAS, FEUERMANN, KLEIN, LINKS, MEISEL in Trencsen & Turocz megye
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ViewMate thank you to all responders
#hungary
bounce-2342662-772961@...
The ViewMate team has asked me to send out this thank you note.
Dick Plotz Manager of Mailing Lists JewishGen, Inc. +++ Collaborative spirit reigns: We give thanks to the many JewishGen-ViewMate volunteers who have offered translations and commentary to help unpuzzle our past. Thanks to all for joining us in this collaborative spirit. We really do appreciate your assistance. ViewMate Team: Sam Eneman Bernard Kouchel Gary Sandler
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Hungary SIG #Hungary ViewMate thank you to all responders
#hungary
bounce-2342662-772961@...
The ViewMate team has asked me to send out this thank you note.
Dick Plotz Manager of Mailing Lists JewishGen, Inc. +++ Collaborative spirit reigns: We give thanks to the many JewishGen-ViewMate volunteers who have offered translations and commentary to help unpuzzle our past. Thanks to all for joining us in this collaborative spirit. We really do appreciate your assistance. ViewMate Team: Sam Eneman Bernard Kouchel Gary Sandler
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Re: Last names prior to 1785
#hungary
geeklet@...
This is a really fascinating find, Alex! Thanks for pointing it out! I
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was delighted to easily find two of my ancestral towns and I'm sure many others will as well. I'm curious if anyone can translate any of it though. Particularly the columns, but also at the end of each town where they had two rows which look something like 'Summa Aro' and 'Ex Reufrone'. Could those be an enumeration of serfs? Any insight into these welcome. Thanks again
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Last names prior to 1785
#hungary
geeklet@...
This is a really fascinating find, Alex! Thanks for pointing it out! I
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was delighted to easily find two of my ancestral towns and I'm sure many others will as well. I'm curious if anyone can translate any of it though. Particularly the columns, but also at the end of each town where they had two rows which look something like 'Summa Aro' and 'Ex Reufrone'. Could those be an enumeration of serfs? Any insight into these welcome. Thanks again
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UK Aliens Restriction Act
#germany
Hanna Grossman <hannakg@...>
Judith Berlowitz wrote about UK immigrants >from Germany, in a list for
1922, who had their German citizenship annulled by the Nazis after their departure. That makes the date of the list sound wrong. As to the effect on the emigrants whose German citizenship was annulled, based on the experience of myself and my family, it meant that we were treated as stateless. Hanna Grossman, Cornwall, CT hannakg@...
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German SIG #Germany UK Aliens Restriction Act
#germany
Hanna Grossman <hannakg@...>
Judith Berlowitz wrote about UK immigrants >from Germany, in a list for
1922, who had their German citizenship annulled by the Nazis after their departure. That makes the date of the list sound wrong. As to the effect on the emigrants whose German citizenship was annulled, based on the experience of myself and my family, it meant that we were treated as stateless. Hanna Grossman, Cornwall, CT hannakg@...
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Handwritten family tree interpretation request
#romania
yagury@...
Hi,
I've posted a handwritten family tree on ViewMate - http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=21104 . This is an annotated family tree, holding the original handwritten information, as well as my understanding of names. This family lived in Radautz Bukovina in the 2nd half of the 19th century. Some of the additional information is based on other documents. Please help: 1. Confirm / correct my understandings 2. Provide your view about questionable entries Please respond via Viewmate, or directly to me Many thanks in advance Yossi Yagur - Israel
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Romania SIG #Romania Handwritten family tree interpretation request
#romania
yagury@...
Hi,
I've posted a handwritten family tree on ViewMate - http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=21104 . This is an annotated family tree, holding the original handwritten information, as well as my understanding of names. This family lived in Radautz Bukovina in the 2nd half of the 19th century. Some of the additional information is based on other documents. Please help: 1. Confirm / correct my understandings 2. Provide your view about questionable entries Please respond via Viewmate, or directly to me Many thanks in advance Yossi Yagur - Israel
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Re: SUNDAY TIMES - May 13, 1945
#southafrica
Adrian Freedman
To SA SIG
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this information supplied by Miriam Margoyles is exciting! Is there a site available where anyone can peruse the South African papers and extract the same information Miriam Margolyes did? Perhaps she can assist with this Adrian Freedman
On 22 December 2011 04:28, Miriam Margolyes <yarrawa@...> wrote:
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ViewMate thank you to all responders
#southafrica
Dick Plotz <Dick@...>
The ViewMate team has asked me to send out this thank you note.
Dick Plotz Manager of Mailing Lists JewishGen, Inc. +++ Collaborative spirit reigns: We give thanks to the many JewishGen-ViewMate volunteers who have offered translations and commentary to help unpuzzle our past. Thanks to all for joining us in this collaborative spirit. We really do appreciate your assistance. ViewMate Team: Sam Eneman Bernard Kouchel Gary Sandler
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: SUNDAY TIMES - May 13, 1945
#southafrica
Adrian Freedman
To SA SIG
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this information supplied by Miriam Margoyles is exciting! Is there a site available where anyone can peruse the South African papers and extract the same information Miriam Margolyes did? Perhaps she can assist with this Adrian Freedman
On 22 December 2011 04:28, Miriam Margolyes <yarrawa@...> wrote:
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica ViewMate thank you to all responders
#southafrica
Dick Plotz <Dick@...>
The ViewMate team has asked me to send out this thank you note.
Dick Plotz Manager of Mailing Lists JewishGen, Inc. +++ Collaborative spirit reigns: We give thanks to the many JewishGen-ViewMate volunteers who have offered translations and commentary to help unpuzzle our past. Thanks to all for joining us in this collaborative spirit. We really do appreciate your assistance. ViewMate Team: Sam Eneman Bernard Kouchel Gary Sandler
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descendants of David Litwak
#poland
Henryk Gruder <henrygruder@...>
Hi I am looking for any information regarding descendants of David Litwak,
born about 1852, who arrived to Ellis Island in June 1895, on the board of ship Veendam, or / and Chaja Litwak (spelling can differ), born around 1876, who arrived the time, same ship. Henryk Gruder, Ottawa, Canada MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information. Suggestions for research methods or resources may be shared with the list.
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JRI Poland #Poland descendants of David Litwak
#poland
Henryk Gruder <henrygruder@...>
Hi I am looking for any information regarding descendants of David Litwak,
born about 1852, who arrived to Ellis Island in June 1895, on the board of ship Veendam, or / and Chaja Litwak (spelling can differ), born around 1876, who arrived the time, same ship. Henryk Gruder, Ottawa, Canada MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information. Suggestions for research methods or resources may be shared with the list.
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Dick Plotz <Dick@...>
The ViewMate team has asked me to send out this thank you note.
Dick Plotz Manager of Mailing Lists JewishGen, Inc. +++ Collaborative spirit reigns: We give thanks to the many JewishGen-ViewMate volunteers who have offered translations and commentary to help unpuzzle our past. Thanks to all for joining us in this collaborative spirit. We really do appreciate your assistance. ViewMate Team: Sam Eneman Bernard Kouchel Gary Sandler
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Dick Plotz <Dick@...>
The ViewMate team has asked me to send out this thank you note.
Dick Plotz Manager of Mailing Lists JewishGen, Inc. +++ Collaborative spirit reigns: We give thanks to the many JewishGen-ViewMate volunteers who have offered translations and commentary to help unpuzzle our past. Thanks to all for joining us in this collaborative spirit. We really do appreciate your assistance. ViewMate Team: Sam Eneman Bernard Kouchel Gary Sandler
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