Date   

Re: Shileyskoy Msoshchanskog #ukraine

MarkGrekin@...
 

In a message dated 11/8/0 8:27:11 PM, msmetters@ncweb.com writes:

<< Shileyskoy Msoshchanskog>>

Hi Mitzi,
In the old Russian documents the name of a person was usually followed by
what status he/she had and in what place that status was given. One of the
statuses was "meshchanin" and such a person >from Kiev would be designated as
"Kievskii meshchanin". In your case it may be Shileyskii meshchanin.

Mark


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Shileyskoy Msoshchanskog #ukraine

MarkGrekin@...
 

In a message dated 11/8/0 8:27:11 PM, msmetters@ncweb.com writes:

<< Shileyskoy Msoshchanskog>>

Hi Mitzi,
In the old Russian documents the name of a person was usually followed by
what status he/she had and in what place that status was given. One of the
statuses was "meshchanin" and such a person >from Kiev would be designated as
"Kievskii meshchanin". In your case it may be Shileyskii meshchanin.

Mark


The name Batya/Bithiah #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Dear JGenners,

In my comment on the name Batya, I stated that the name Bithia for the
daughter of the Pharaoh of the Exodus does not appear "in the Bible" --
though it does appear later in the rabbinic oral tradition. In context,
of course, I meant that it does not appear in the Bible's version of the
Exodus. However, Leslie Reich has kindly pointed out to me that a
character identified as "Bithiah daughter of Pharaoh, whom Mered married"
appears in I Chronicles 4:18 (She appears in a genealogy unrelated to
the Exodus story; and in any case the daughter of the Pharaoh of the
Exodus, according to rabbinic tradition, became the wife not of Mered but
of Caleb.)

The Bithiah of Chronicles, then, was the daughter of a different Pharaoh --
"Pharaoh" being a title and not a proper name. (Solomon, likewise, is
said in I kings 3:1 to have married "the daughter of Pharaoh" -- again,
this was clearly not the Pharaoh of the Exodus story!) But even though the
Bithiah in Chronicles is not identifiable with the Pharaoh's daughter who
raised Moses , the fact that she bore this name may well be the reason why
rabbinic tradition (in Lev. Rabbah and elsewhere) assigns the same name to
the one who adopted Moses.

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: Given name of Label/Labe #ukraine

JReing2528@...
 

I believe the name Label/Labe is a variant of the Yiddish name Lieb,
diminutive "el", meaning "heart" or "love". My grandfather, named Lieb
MARIPOLSKY (>from Zwenigrad) became Louis at Ellis Island in 1910. My
11 year old grandson has as his "Jewish Name" >from his Bris Milla, the
name, doubled, in memory of his mother's grandfather, >from L'vov,"Label
Label" with English name of Lowell, so you see the name is still quite
current.

Estelle Reingold


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The name Batya/Bithiah #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Dear JGenners,

In my comment on the name Batya, I stated that the name Bithia for the
daughter of the Pharaoh of the Exodus does not appear "in the Bible" --
though it does appear later in the rabbinic oral tradition. In context,
of course, I meant that it does not appear in the Bible's version of the
Exodus. However, Leslie Reich has kindly pointed out to me that a
character identified as "Bithiah daughter of Pharaoh, whom Mered married"
appears in I Chronicles 4:18 (She appears in a genealogy unrelated to
the Exodus story; and in any case the daughter of the Pharaoh of the
Exodus, according to rabbinic tradition, became the wife not of Mered but
of Caleb.)

The Bithiah of Chronicles, then, was the daughter of a different Pharaoh --
"Pharaoh" being a title and not a proper name. (Solomon, likewise, is
said in I kings 3:1 to have married "the daughter of Pharaoh" -- again,
this was clearly not the Pharaoh of the Exodus story!) But even though the
Bithiah in Chronicles is not identifiable with the Pharaoh's daughter who
raised Moses , the fact that she bore this name may well be the reason why
rabbinic tradition (in Lev. Rabbah and elsewhere) assigns the same name to
the one who adopted Moses.

Judith Romney Wegner


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Given name of Label/Labe #ukraine

JReing2528@...
 

I believe the name Label/Labe is a variant of the Yiddish name Lieb,
diminutive "el", meaning "heart" or "love". My grandfather, named Lieb
MARIPOLSKY (>from Zwenigrad) became Louis at Ellis Island in 1910. My
11 year old grandson has as his "Jewish Name" >from his Bris Milla, the
name, doubled, in memory of his mother's grandfather, >from L'vov,"Label
Label" with English name of Lowell, so you see the name is still quite
current.

Estelle Reingold


Re: Given name of Label/Labe #ukraine

Brandler Institute of Chasidic Thought <bict@...>
 

Labe or Leib is Yiddish for Lion. It is the Yiddish version for Aryeh and
remains to this very day a very popular name among religous Jews.

Abraham J. Heschel

Director
Brandler Institute of Chasidic Thought

Brooklyn NY


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Given name of Label/Labe #ukraine

Brandler Institute of Chasidic Thought <bict@...>
 

Labe or Leib is Yiddish for Lion. It is the Yiddish version for Aryeh and
remains to this very day a very popular name among religous Jews.

Abraham J. Heschel

Director
Brandler Institute of Chasidic Thought

Brooklyn NY


Re: Given name of Label/Labe #ukraine

Lynne Shapiro <lynneshap@...>
 

Mitzi,

My aunt told the story of how her husband, my Uncle Lou, started school
not knowing that his name was Louis. The teacher called out the name
and he didn't answer; he had always been called Labl at home. Also,
someone in a class I attended a year or two ago was named Label (a
Yiddish class, so we all gave our Jewish names). I don't think the name
was uncommon. Am not sure if it's related to Leib or not.

Lynne Shapiro
Western Mass.

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:51:56 -0500 "Mitzi Smetters" <msmetters@ncweb.com>
writes:

Two of my gggrandfathers had the given name of Label or Labe (Label
MICHELSON b. 1820 in Prussia and Labe BOBROV/BABROV of the same
generation).
I have not seen this given name of Label or Labe anywhere else. Is
any one familiar with this as a given name? Could it be a title rather
than a name.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Given name of Label/Labe #ukraine

Lynne Shapiro <lynneshap@...>
 

Mitzi,

My aunt told the story of how her husband, my Uncle Lou, started school
not knowing that his name was Louis. The teacher called out the name
and he didn't answer; he had always been called Labl at home. Also,
someone in a class I attended a year or two ago was named Label (a
Yiddish class, so we all gave our Jewish names). I don't think the name
was uncommon. Am not sure if it's related to Leib or not.

Lynne Shapiro
Western Mass.

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:51:56 -0500 "Mitzi Smetters" <msmetters@ncweb.com>
writes:

Two of my gggrandfathers had the given name of Label or Labe (Label
MICHELSON b. 1820 in Prussia and Labe BOBROV/BABROV of the same
generation).
I have not seen this given name of Label or Labe anywhere else. Is
any one familiar with this as a given name? Could it be a title rather
than a name.


Re: Given name of Label/Labe #ukraine

Larry R. Feder <lrfeder@...>
 

The name Leib is Yiddish for Aryeh or Yehuda, which refers to lion. It is
in fact a very common name. Label is a nickname. Many of my cousins, my
father-in-law, as well as my brother have this name.


Elizabeth Feder
Researching FEDER , SHIFFMAN- Strelisk, Galicia,
ELBERT, KUPERSTIEN, TABACHNIK GLADSTEIN- Tuchin, Poland-Ukraine,
SCHONFELD, NEUMAN, GOLDBERGER- Cz. & Hungary

Mitzi Smetters asks:

Two of my gggrandfathers had the given name of Label or Labe (Label
MICHELSON b. 1820 in Prussia and Labe BOBROV/BABROV of the same
generation).
I have not seen this given name of Label or Labe anywhere else. Is any
one familiar with this as a given name? Could it be a title rather than
a name.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Given name of Label/Labe #ukraine

Larry R. Feder <lrfeder@...>
 

The name Leib is Yiddish for Aryeh or Yehuda, which refers to lion. It is
in fact a very common name. Label is a nickname. Many of my cousins, my
father-in-law, as well as my brother have this name.


Elizabeth Feder
Researching FEDER , SHIFFMAN- Strelisk, Galicia,
ELBERT, KUPERSTIEN, TABACHNIK GLADSTEIN- Tuchin, Poland-Ukraine,
SCHONFELD, NEUMAN, GOLDBERGER- Cz. & Hungary

Mitzi Smetters asks:

Two of my gggrandfathers had the given name of Label or Labe (Label
MICHELSON b. 1820 in Prussia and Labe BOBROV/BABROV of the same
generation).
I have not seen this given name of Label or Labe anywhere else. Is any
one familiar with this as a given name? Could it be a title rather than
a name.


Re: Given name of Label/Labe #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

Mitzi Smetters asked in her message of 11-8-00 about the name "Labe" or
"Label."

I think it is a form of Lieb or Liebel, and one can find discussions of
this name in Jewishgen's Discussion Group Archives.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Given name of Label/Labe #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

Mitzi Smetters asked in her message of 11-8-00 about the name "Labe" or
"Label."

I think it is a form of Lieb or Liebel, and one can find discussions of
this name in Jewishgen's Discussion Group Archives.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol.


Re: [jri-pl] Software question #belarus

Susan Rosenthall <sarosenthall@...>
 

Some of my cousins and I are wanting to start to record the results of our
research using a geneology software program. Our (combined) computer
expertise ranges >from "beginner plus" to "medium plus". If any of you have
experiences with programs, positively or negatively, we would very much
appreciate hearing >from you.
Susan Rosenthall

Moderator note: please reply privately


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: [jri-pl] Software question #belarus

Susan Rosenthall <sarosenthall@...>
 

Some of my cousins and I are wanting to start to record the results of our
research using a geneology software program. Our (combined) computer
expertise ranges >from "beginner plus" to "medium plus". If any of you have
experiences with programs, positively or negatively, we would very much
appreciate hearing >from you.
Susan Rosenthall

Moderator note: please reply privately


PLEASE NOTE!! #belarus

Elsebeth Paikin
 

MESSAGE >from MODERATORS:
------------------------

Messages to the JewishGen discussion groups must be in PlainText.
Please read the message >from Chuck Weinstein below!

And as obviously many members haven't read - or have forgotten -
also the rules:
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/rulzfaq2.txt


Apparently, the newest version of AOL's software has an E-mail program
that sends messages only in multi-part MIME format. This format is
incompatible with the software this listserve uses, and messages sent to
any of JewishGen's news groups or SIGs will be unreadable to those who
try to read them. Messages received in this format will be rejected by
JewishGen moderators. PLEASE, if you are considering upgrading to the
latest version of AOL software, hold off until we can figure a work
around. I can assure you we are looking at it carefully. Thanks.

Chuck Weinstein
JewishGen ShtetLinks Project Manager
cweinstein@jewishgen.org


Belarus SIG #Belarus PLEASE NOTE!! #belarus

Elsebeth Paikin
 

MESSAGE >from MODERATORS:
------------------------

Messages to the JewishGen discussion groups must be in PlainText.
Please read the message >from Chuck Weinstein below!

And as obviously many members haven't read - or have forgotten -
also the rules:
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/rulzfaq2.txt


Apparently, the newest version of AOL's software has an E-mail program
that sends messages only in multi-part MIME format. This format is
incompatible with the software this listserve uses, and messages sent to
any of JewishGen's news groups or SIGs will be unreadable to those who
try to read them. Messages received in this format will be rejected by
JewishGen moderators. PLEASE, if you are considering upgrading to the
latest version of AOL software, hold off until we can figure a work
around. I can assure you we are looking at it carefully. Thanks.

Chuck Weinstein
JewishGen ShtetLinks Project Manager
cweinstein@jewishgen.org


Re: Jacobstadt Tax Registry 1811-1813 #latvia

Elsebeth Paikin
 

To LATVIA SIG DISCUSSION GROUP

At 16:11 06-11-00 -0500, Jaxschwab@aol.com wrote:
While doing a periodic search on my family name yesterday, I happened
upon a recent (I think) posting. It's the Oklad (tax registry) of Jewish
Male Citizens Living in Jacobstadt 1811-1813. Here's the URL:

http://www.ej-anders.com/users/xenon2/Jak1811S
...SNIP...
-----------------

It's been reported to the Denmark SIG (where this message was also posted)
that the above URL doesn't work. And that is right today.... but I tried it
out before I posted the message to the Denmark SIG list, and then it worked.

Maybe it's only because the server is down for a day or two? So my advice
is to try it again in a couple of days....

Best regards

------------------------------------
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
Coordinator & Webmaster of
JewishGen Denmark SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/denmark
mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk
------------------------------------


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Jacobstadt Tax Registry 1811-1813 #latvia

Elsebeth Paikin
 

To LATVIA SIG DISCUSSION GROUP

At 16:11 06-11-00 -0500, Jaxschwab@aol.com wrote:
While doing a periodic search on my family name yesterday, I happened
upon a recent (I think) posting. It's the Oklad (tax registry) of Jewish
Male Citizens Living in Jacobstadt 1811-1813. Here's the URL:

http://www.ej-anders.com/users/xenon2/Jak1811S
...SNIP...
-----------------

It's been reported to the Denmark SIG (where this message was also posted)
that the above URL doesn't work. And that is right today.... but I tried it
out before I posted the message to the Denmark SIG list, and then it worked.

Maybe it's only because the server is down for a day or two? So my advice
is to try it again in a couple of days....

Best regards

------------------------------------
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
Coordinator & Webmaster of
JewishGen Denmark SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/denmark
mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk
------------------------------------