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Searching out relatives in Israel #ukraine

Raanan S Isseroff <raanan1@...>
 

BS"D

Jackye Shalom,

If you have Windows 2000 you can reset the language settings to include
Hebrew and do it yourself. Put Israel Telephone Information into your
browser.
Or else : Bezek Israel.
Bezek is the national phone company for Israel.

Or if you are really impatient, (like me) so call Israel and ask for
information.
The operaters all speak English and love to practice (for when they move
to the USA)
After all the Israeli Dream is the American Dream! (unfortunately for
them).
Little do they realize, that we for our part, dream of Israel....

Such is the world.
Wishing you Hatzlocha,

Raanan S. Isseroff
Brooklyn, USA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Searching out relatives in Israel #ukraine

Raanan S Isseroff <raanan1@...>
 

BS"D

Jackye Shalom,

If you have Windows 2000 you can reset the language settings to include
Hebrew and do it yourself. Put Israel Telephone Information into your
browser.
Or else : Bezek Israel.
Bezek is the national phone company for Israel.

Or if you are really impatient, (like me) so call Israel and ask for
information.
The operaters all speak English and love to practice (for when they move
to the USA)
After all the Israeli Dream is the American Dream! (unfortunately for
them).
Little do they realize, that we for our part, dream of Israel....

Such is the world.
Wishing you Hatzlocha,

Raanan S. Isseroff
Brooklyn, USA


Re: Female name - Nutta ? #galicia

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Dear Fran Segall et al:

Here are two possibilities >from Anita Diamant's "The New Jewish
Baby Book":

= Nadya: >from "dowry"; she says it's common in Israel
= Netta/Netia: meaning "a plant".


Michelle Frager, NYC



--- Fran Segall <Fran_Segall@netzero.net> wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My g-father's sister's tombstone reads Chai-yud-hay
Nun-yud-tov-hay bat
....... First name is obviously Chaya. Any ideas on the
"middle name"?
I've heard of the name Nuta or Nutta, but only for a male
(often winds up
as something like Nathan).

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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Female name - Nutta ? #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Dear Fran Segall et al:

Here are two possibilities >from Anita Diamant's "The New Jewish
Baby Book":

= Nadya: >from "dowry"; she says it's common in Israel
= Netta/Netia: meaning "a plant".


Michelle Frager, NYC



--- Fran Segall <Fran_Segall@netzero.net> wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My g-father's sister's tombstone reads Chai-yud-hay
Nun-yud-tov-hay bat
....... First name is obviously Chaya. Any ideas on the
"middle name"?
I've heard of the name Nuta or Nutta, but only for a male
(often winds up
as something like Nathan).

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month.
http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1


Very good book on Ukraine #ukraine

Sandra G. Shapiro <sandrags@...>
 

Having researched many books on the pogroms in the Ukraine, I have yet to
find information on the shtetl Ratno. However, I have learned alot about
the history of the region. Many of the books are >from the 1920ies. I would
like to share information on one published in 1999: that I found very
informative. "A Prayer for the Government: Ukrainian and Jews in
Revolutionary Times 1917-1920" by Henry Abramson, Harvard Un. Press. Unlike
the earlier books, this has an index and a very extensive bibliography.
With the passage of some 80 years, the book gives a much broader
interpretation of the events following the WWI. Again, I was able to get
the book on an interlibrary loan.

Sandra G. Shapiro, Wilsonville, OR

Researching: GARFINKEL, GOLDBERG, GOLDSMITH, KRASELSKY, LITVINSKI,
TENENBAUM >from Divin
LEVY , KLYN Kortylisy, Volhynia
GOLDSMITH Ratno,Volhynia


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Very good book on Ukraine #ukraine

Sandra G. Shapiro <sandrags@...>
 

Having researched many books on the pogroms in the Ukraine, I have yet to
find information on the shtetl Ratno. However, I have learned alot about
the history of the region. Many of the books are >from the 1920ies. I would
like to share information on one published in 1999: that I found very
informative. "A Prayer for the Government: Ukrainian and Jews in
Revolutionary Times 1917-1920" by Henry Abramson, Harvard Un. Press. Unlike
the earlier books, this has an index and a very extensive bibliography.
With the passage of some 80 years, the book gives a much broader
interpretation of the events following the WWI. Again, I was able to get
the book on an interlibrary loan.

Sandra G. Shapiro, Wilsonville, OR

Researching: GARFINKEL, GOLDBERG, GOLDSMITH, KRASELSKY, LITVINSKI,
TENENBAUM >from Divin
LEVY , KLYN Kortylisy, Volhynia
GOLDSMITH Ratno,Volhynia


Introducing Myself #poland #ciechanow

CBL
 

Dear Fellow Ciechanow Researchers,

I am writing to introduce myself and to thank the founders and other
contributors to this website for all the work that you have done to create a
Ciechanow research group, website, and listserve.

I live in Lawrence, Kansas, and teach American literature and culture at the
University of Kansas. I have been researching my family for only the past
couple of years and have benefitted >from the JRI-Poland Records in
particular.

There is a great deal I would like to learn about Ciechanow, the birthplace
of both my paternal grandparents and, as far as I can tell, the home of
their ancestors for some generations.

My grandfather Eli LISTOPAD (LESTER in the US, with first cousins who took
the name of BURNSTEIN) was second to the youngest of a large family. His
father's name was Moshe LISTOPAD and his mother's name was Esther Laya
SKUZA. Moshe LISTOPAD's father was Nacha or Szachna LISTOPAD, and his mother
was Bajla Golda DAVIDOW.

My grandmother Anna TOTENGREBER (JACOBS in the US)was also among the younger
children of a large family that included half-siblings although I haven't
figured out exactly how yet. Anna's father was Abraham TOTENGREBER and her
mother was Hinda GOLDSTEIN. Most of Abraham TOTENGREBER and Hinda
GOLDSTEIN's children moved >from Ciechanow to Rochester, New York, but the
eldest daughter Alice stayed in Ciechanow, married Fievel TASIMOVICZ, and
had 6-7 children although some have been said to be half-siblings and again
I don't know how yet. Most of this family were murdered in the Shoah, but
descendants of survivors presently live in the US. After Abraham
TOTENGREBER died (in the US?), I understand that Hinda married Abraham
RABINOWITZ.

If anyone can tell me anything about these families, please be in touch.

Best wishes,

Cheryl Lester
Lawrence, Kansas
Searching LISTOPAD, SKUZA, DAVIDOW, BURNSTEIN, TOTENGREBER, GOLDSTEIN,
TASIMOVICZ, RABINOWITZ (Ciechanow); ZWIRN, RUSCHIN, CHEIM (Oborniki and
Berlin); GROSSMAN, TROTSKY or TROTT, KRIEGER (Kaunas and Seirijai, Lithuania
and Manchester, England)

MODERATOR'S NOTE:

If any one is able to provide information requested, please contact the writer directly.


#Ciechanow #Poland Introducing Myself #ciechanow #poland

CBL
 

Dear Fellow Ciechanow Researchers,

I am writing to introduce myself and to thank the founders and other
contributors to this website for all the work that you have done to create a
Ciechanow research group, website, and listserve.

I live in Lawrence, Kansas, and teach American literature and culture at the
University of Kansas. I have been researching my family for only the past
couple of years and have benefitted >from the JRI-Poland Records in
particular.

There is a great deal I would like to learn about Ciechanow, the birthplace
of both my paternal grandparents and, as far as I can tell, the home of
their ancestors for some generations.

My grandfather Eli LISTOPAD (LESTER in the US, with first cousins who took
the name of BURNSTEIN) was second to the youngest of a large family. His
father's name was Moshe LISTOPAD and his mother's name was Esther Laya
SKUZA. Moshe LISTOPAD's father was Nacha or Szachna LISTOPAD, and his mother
was Bajla Golda DAVIDOW.

My grandmother Anna TOTENGREBER (JACOBS in the US)was also among the younger
children of a large family that included half-siblings although I haven't
figured out exactly how yet. Anna's father was Abraham TOTENGREBER and her
mother was Hinda GOLDSTEIN. Most of Abraham TOTENGREBER and Hinda
GOLDSTEIN's children moved >from Ciechanow to Rochester, New York, but the
eldest daughter Alice stayed in Ciechanow, married Fievel TASIMOVICZ, and
had 6-7 children although some have been said to be half-siblings and again
I don't know how yet. Most of this family were murdered in the Shoah, but
descendants of survivors presently live in the US. After Abraham
TOTENGREBER died (in the US?), I understand that Hinda married Abraham
RABINOWITZ.

If anyone can tell me anything about these families, please be in touch.

Best wishes,

Cheryl Lester
Lawrence, Kansas
Searching LISTOPAD, SKUZA, DAVIDOW, BURNSTEIN, TOTENGREBER, GOLDSTEIN,
TASIMOVICZ, RABINOWITZ (Ciechanow); ZWIRN, RUSCHIN, CHEIM (Oborniki and
Berlin); GROSSMAN, TROTSKY or TROTT, KRIEGER (Kaunas and Seirijai, Lithuania
and Manchester, England)

MODERATOR'S NOTE:

If any one is able to provide information requested, please contact the writer directly.


Descendents of BROER from Subotch Lithuania #lithuania

Chaim Luria <chaim@...>
 

I am trying to locate descendents of David BROER who arrived in New York on
March 5, 1908 at the age of 21 and resided in Subotch (Subotz, Subacius) Lithuania. I am looking for information on this small town which is 15 miles east of Ponovezh.

Regards,

Chaim Luria
Jerusalem


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Descendents of BROER from Subotch Lithuania #lithuania

Chaim Luria <chaim@...>
 

I am trying to locate descendents of David BROER who arrived in New York on
March 5, 1908 at the age of 21 and resided in Subotch (Subotz, Subacius) Lithuania. I am looking for information on this small town which is 15 miles east of Ponovezh.

Regards,

Chaim Luria
Jerusalem


Sejny #lithuania

Simon, David M MSER:EX <David.M.Simon@...>
 

I have just started trying to research my paternal grandfather's family >from Lithuania. Part of the family ended up in Paris in the early 1900's and the rest ended up in Canada. To this day no one knows why they ended up in Paris and I have never heard of any great migrations to Paris of Jews.

Also it appears they came >from Sejny. A quick search of some of the
geographical sites doesn't turn up much about this town (?) village (?).

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

David Simon
Victoria, B.C.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Because Sejny was in Suwalk Gubernia, you might find interesting background in an article in Landsmen, the journal of the Suwalk-Lomza Special Interest Group, "The Suwalk-Lomza Jewish Community in Paris." This article provides a historical overview of East European immigration to Paris, at the vanguard of which were Suwalk-Lomza families. Details are given >from 291 marriages of Suwalk-Lomza immigrants and their descendants (circa 1851-1901), >from the Paris Consistory and regular civil records. Includes guidance on obtaining and translating French records. More information on Landsmen can be found at <www.jewishgen.org/Suwalk-Lomza/>


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Sejny #lithuania

Simon, David M MSER:EX <David.M.Simon@...>
 

I have just started trying to research my paternal grandfather's family >from Lithuania. Part of the family ended up in Paris in the early 1900's and the rest ended up in Canada. To this day no one knows why they ended up in Paris and I have never heard of any great migrations to Paris of Jews.

Also it appears they came >from Sejny. A quick search of some of the
geographical sites doesn't turn up much about this town (?) village (?).

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

David Simon
Victoria, B.C.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Because Sejny was in Suwalk Gubernia, you might find interesting background in an article in Landsmen, the journal of the Suwalk-Lomza Special Interest Group, "The Suwalk-Lomza Jewish Community in Paris." This article provides a historical overview of East European immigration to Paris, at the vanguard of which were Suwalk-Lomza families. Details are given >from 291 marriages of Suwalk-Lomza immigrants and their descendants (circa 1851-1901), >from the Paris Consistory and regular civil records. Includes guidance on obtaining and translating French records. More information on Landsmen can be found at <www.jewishgen.org/Suwalk-Lomza/>


Ciechanow web page move #ciechanow #poland

Stan Zeidenberg
 

Hello everyone. Please note that our web page has moved to the
JewishGen server. The URL is:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/ciechanow

I will soon be making the announcement to the JewishGen
discussion group as well as other relevant groups. The move
means that there is now a link to our site >from JewishGen. This
will make it easier for people to find us. With additional people
finding us, perhaps some will wish to take an active role in our
research and web development. Last time I checked, we had
about 73 subscribers to our LIST. We have been at a standstill for
some time now. I will be contacting you again very soon with
some suggestions on we can move ahead. In the meantime I
would be happy as always to hear your ideas.

Some of you may already be aware that the 22nd IAGS
International Conference On Jewish Genealogy will be held here in
Toronto, Aug 4-9. It would be nice to meet as many of you as
possible.

Stan Zeidenberg
Toronto, Canada

We


#Ciechanow #Poland Ciechanow web page move #ciechanow #poland

Stan Zeidenberg
 

Hello everyone. Please note that our web page has moved to the
JewishGen server. The URL is:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/ciechanow

I will soon be making the announcement to the JewishGen
discussion group as well as other relevant groups. The move
means that there is now a link to our site >from JewishGen. This
will make it easier for people to find us. With additional people
finding us, perhaps some will wish to take an active role in our
research and web development. Last time I checked, we had
about 73 subscribers to our LIST. We have been at a standstill for
some time now. I will be contacting you again very soon with
some suggestions on we can move ahead. In the meantime I
would be happy as always to hear your ideas.

Some of you may already be aware that the 22nd IAGS
International Conference On Jewish Genealogy will be held here in
Toronto, Aug 4-9. It would be nice to meet as many of you as
possible.

Stan Zeidenberg
Toronto, Canada

We


JGS Washington State December Meeting #general

David Baron <dbaron@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Washington State

The next meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Washington State
JGSWS) will be held at the Stroum Jewish Community Center in the Polack
Lounge on Monday December 10 at 7:00 PM. Please join us!

The topic is "The Changing Borders of Eastern Europe". If your ancestor
lived in Eastern Europe, chances are his or her ancestral home was under
the rule of several countries. Recognizing which government was in
control during a given time can help us understand the environment in
which our ancestors lived and the events which led to their migration.
Many names of towns have changed. Changing borders affected the
languages in which records were kept and the location of relevant
archives.

Maps of Eastern Europe during various periods of history will be
available to help you locate the shtetl of your ancestors. Our research
mavens will be available to you before and after the meeting to ask
questions and use our expanding resource center for your personal
research. Our goal is to assist you with whatever research challenge you
encounter.

Please visit our website at http://www.jgsws.org or email
maven@jgsws.org

David Baron
maven@jgsws.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Washington State December Meeting #general

David Baron <dbaron@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Washington State

The next meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Washington State
JGSWS) will be held at the Stroum Jewish Community Center in the Polack
Lounge on Monday December 10 at 7:00 PM. Please join us!

The topic is "The Changing Borders of Eastern Europe". If your ancestor
lived in Eastern Europe, chances are his or her ancestral home was under
the rule of several countries. Recognizing which government was in
control during a given time can help us understand the environment in
which our ancestors lived and the events which led to their migration.
Many names of towns have changed. Changing borders affected the
languages in which records were kept and the location of relevant
archives.

Maps of Eastern Europe during various periods of history will be
available to help you locate the shtetl of your ancestors. Our research
mavens will be available to you before and after the meeting to ask
questions and use our expanding resource center for your personal
research. Our goal is to assist you with whatever research challenge you
encounter.

Please visit our website at http://www.jgsws.org or email
maven@jgsws.org

David Baron
maven@jgsws.org


Female name - Nutta ? #galicia

Fran Segall <Fran_Segall@...>
 

My g-father's sister's tombstone reads Chai-yud-hay Nun-yud-tov-hay bat
....... First name is obviously Chaya. Any ideas on the "middle name"?
I've heard of the name Nuta or Nutta, but only for a male (often winds up as
something like Nathan).

Any thoughts on what this female Yiddish/Hebrew name could be, or what it
might have become in English?

Thanks for your help - again!

Fran

**************************

Fran Segall - Manassas, VA

Doing research on: STRICK - Wielopole, LICHTMAN/LICHTMANN -
Stanislavov/Ivano-Frankovs'k and Bolszowce/Bol'shovtsy,
BROUDA/BREWDA/BREVDA - Amstibove/Mstibovo, KLETZEL/KLETSEL - Volhynia region


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Female name - Nutta ? #galicia

Fran Segall <Fran_Segall@...>
 

My g-father's sister's tombstone reads Chai-yud-hay Nun-yud-tov-hay bat
....... First name is obviously Chaya. Any ideas on the "middle name"?
I've heard of the name Nuta or Nutta, but only for a male (often winds up as
something like Nathan).

Any thoughts on what this female Yiddish/Hebrew name could be, or what it
might have become in English?

Thanks for your help - again!

Fran

**************************

Fran Segall - Manassas, VA

Doing research on: STRICK - Wielopole, LICHTMAN/LICHTMANN -
Stanislavov/Ivano-Frankovs'k and Bolszowce/Bol'shovtsy,
BROUDA/BREWDA/BREVDA - Amstibove/Mstibovo, KLETZEL/KLETSEL - Volhynia region


Yaron Pickholz #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

Before you all ask, the Yaron Pickholz who was killed by Arab gunmen
Thursday evening is not my son. (I also have a twenty year old son in
combat engineers, but he is OK, thank you.)

Yaron is >from a different Pikholz branch.

Israel Pickholtz

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yaron Pickholz #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

Before you all ask, the Yaron Pickholz who was killed by Arab gunmen
Thursday evening is not my son. (I also have a twenty year old son in
combat engineers, but he is OK, thank you.)

Yaron is >from a different Pikholz branch.

Israel Pickholtz

MODERATOR NOTE: We are allowing this message as a public service. Any
further messages about the events in the Middle East is off-topic and
will not be posted.