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Descendents of BROER from Subotch Lithuania #general

Chaim Luria <chaim@...>
 

I am trying to locate descendents of David BROER who arrived in New York on
March 5, 1908 at the age of 21 and resided in Subotch (Subotz, Subacius)
Lithuania. I am looking for information on this small town which is 15
miles east of Ponovezh.

Regards,

Chaim Luria
Jerusalem

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send family information privately.


Re: 1018 Avenue A #general

Sally <sallybru@...>
 

The 1890 Police Census for New York City is available on film at the Mormon
Library. I have used it. The districts are very irregular, and there is
only one way to figure out the districts-the maps which are on the same
film. Even with the maps, it takes quite a bit of work to figure out which
of the little maps is the right one-at least for the irregular streets on
the Lower East Side, and I guess the Upper East Side.

The other thing you need is also on that film-a street guide which will
give you the cross streets, to tell you that 1018 is between X and Y
streets and on the east or west side.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Descendents of BROER from Subotch Lithuania #general

Chaim Luria <chaim@...>
 

I am trying to locate descendents of David BROER who arrived in New York on
March 5, 1908 at the age of 21 and resided in Subotch (Subotz, Subacius)
Lithuania. I am looking for information on this small town which is 15
miles east of Ponovezh.

Regards,

Chaim Luria
Jerusalem

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send family information privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1018 Avenue A #general

Sally <sallybru@...>
 

The 1890 Police Census for New York City is available on film at the Mormon
Library. I have used it. The districts are very irregular, and there is
only one way to figure out the districts-the maps which are on the same
film. Even with the maps, it takes quite a bit of work to figure out which
of the little maps is the right one-at least for the irregular streets on
the Lower East Side, and I guess the Upper East Side.

The other thing you need is also on that film-a street guide which will
give you the cross streets, to tell you that 1018 is between X and Y
streets and on the east or west side.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


Lithuanian Jewish Vital Records #general

Litvaks@...
 

Even as the microfilming of the Lithuanian Vital records is continuing at
the Lietuvos Valstybes Istorijos Archyvas (LVIA = Lithuanian State
Historical Archives), in Vilnius, Lithuania, we LitvakSIG researchers are
fortunate that we can already access so many of the vital records that have
already been photographically captured by going to a Family History Center
and renting a reel with birth, marriage, or death records >from "our"
ancestral shtetl. In addition, to help us determine exactly which microfilm
reel(s) to order that might be of help to us, there are now two sets of
reference lists posted on the web, complete with LDS microfilm roll number
for ordering. One set, as announced by Gary Mokotoff, is up on the Avotaynu
web site at http://www.avotaynu.com/lithuanialist.htm and the second set,
as announced by Warren Blatt, is up on the JewishGen web site at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/FHLC/VilnaMicrofilmsIndex.htm

Looking over these two lists of Lithuanian localities posted on the web can
be an eye-opening education in itself. Questions frequently arise because
scattered here and there between the more familiar present day Lithuanian
shtetlach of Alytus (Alyta), Gelvonai (Gelvan), Seredzius (Srednik), or
Zeimelis (Zhaimel) one sees glimpses of places now in Belarus such as
"Shchuchin, Lida, Belarus" and "Radun, Lida, Belarus" and even Poland such
as "Knyszyn, Poland (Knysinas)" and "Sokolka, Poland (Sokol)."

The fonds being microfilmed cover Vilna {132 reels of "LVIA Fond 728" with
Vilna gubernia crown rabbinate metrical records, 1837-1925), Suwalki {4
reels of "LVIA Fond 1108" with Suwalki gubernia metrical books}, and Kovno
{"LVIA Fond 1226" with Kovno gubernia crown rabbinate metrical records.

Since time, politics, and war have inevitably changed some geographical
boundaries, some places that were once in Suwalki or Vilna are now in what
might be known as Belarus or even Poland. Moreover, towns seem to be
randomly mixed and interspersed on the microfilms because the films were
essentially made by going up and down the aisles in the archive, just as
the books are stored -- by the year the event whether birth, marriage, or
death, occurred -- and not always by town or locality.

As many of you may know, our LitvakSIG is working closely with the Vilnius
Archives and the Genealogical Society of Utah to create a searchable index
of the records which have already been filmed. Jeff Miller and Ernie Fine
are working with the CDs sent to us >from Salt Lake City to create CDs
containing individual towns in order to assist our indexers in producing
consistency in the translations. Many LitvakSIG volunteers are working
with Jeff Miller to index this material ~ and naturally, we are always
happy to hear >from people who can help with data entry or with reading
Cyrillic Russian to help speed this important project along to completion.
To volunteer, please contact Jeff at <singingtm@aol.com>

The data will eventually be added to the ALD (All Lithuania Database) at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Litvak/searchald.htm), where approximately 30,000
Lithuanian Jewish vital records - >from a variety of sources -- already
reside.

Davida Noyek Handler
President, LitvakSIG


Searching: GERMAN in Brooklyn, NY #general

Leonard Kamenetsky <cahxoce@...>
 

I am searching for the descendants of brothers Morris
(b. around 1909) and Benjamin (b. around 1911) GERMAN,
who lived in Brooklyn, NY, before WWII. Their parents
were David and Tilla GERMAN. The family came to the
US >from Gorodnitza, Volhyn, in 1926-27.

Thanks,
Leonard Kamenetsky
San Jose, California, USA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lithuanian Jewish Vital Records #general

Litvaks@...
 

Even as the microfilming of the Lithuanian Vital records is continuing at
the Lietuvos Valstybes Istorijos Archyvas (LVIA = Lithuanian State
Historical Archives), in Vilnius, Lithuania, we LitvakSIG researchers are
fortunate that we can already access so many of the vital records that have
already been photographically captured by going to a Family History Center
and renting a reel with birth, marriage, or death records >from "our"
ancestral shtetl. In addition, to help us determine exactly which microfilm
reel(s) to order that might be of help to us, there are now two sets of
reference lists posted on the web, complete with LDS microfilm roll number
for ordering. One set, as announced by Gary Mokotoff, is up on the Avotaynu
web site at http://www.avotaynu.com/lithuanialist.htm and the second set,
as announced by Warren Blatt, is up on the JewishGen web site at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/FHLC/VilnaMicrofilmsIndex.htm

Looking over these two lists of Lithuanian localities posted on the web can
be an eye-opening education in itself. Questions frequently arise because
scattered here and there between the more familiar present day Lithuanian
shtetlach of Alytus (Alyta), Gelvonai (Gelvan), Seredzius (Srednik), or
Zeimelis (Zhaimel) one sees glimpses of places now in Belarus such as
"Shchuchin, Lida, Belarus" and "Radun, Lida, Belarus" and even Poland such
as "Knyszyn, Poland (Knysinas)" and "Sokolka, Poland (Sokol)."

The fonds being microfilmed cover Vilna {132 reels of "LVIA Fond 728" with
Vilna gubernia crown rabbinate metrical records, 1837-1925), Suwalki {4
reels of "LVIA Fond 1108" with Suwalki gubernia metrical books}, and Kovno
{"LVIA Fond 1226" with Kovno gubernia crown rabbinate metrical records.

Since time, politics, and war have inevitably changed some geographical
boundaries, some places that were once in Suwalki or Vilna are now in what
might be known as Belarus or even Poland. Moreover, towns seem to be
randomly mixed and interspersed on the microfilms because the films were
essentially made by going up and down the aisles in the archive, just as
the books are stored -- by the year the event whether birth, marriage, or
death, occurred -- and not always by town or locality.

As many of you may know, our LitvakSIG is working closely with the Vilnius
Archives and the Genealogical Society of Utah to create a searchable index
of the records which have already been filmed. Jeff Miller and Ernie Fine
are working with the CDs sent to us >from Salt Lake City to create CDs
containing individual towns in order to assist our indexers in producing
consistency in the translations. Many LitvakSIG volunteers are working
with Jeff Miller to index this material ~ and naturally, we are always
happy to hear >from people who can help with data entry or with reading
Cyrillic Russian to help speed this important project along to completion.
To volunteer, please contact Jeff at <singingtm@aol.com>

The data will eventually be added to the ALD (All Lithuania Database) at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Litvak/searchald.htm), where approximately 30,000
Lithuanian Jewish vital records - >from a variety of sources -- already
reside.

Davida Noyek Handler
President, LitvakSIG


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: GERMAN in Brooklyn, NY #general

Leonard Kamenetsky <cahxoce@...>
 

I am searching for the descendants of brothers Morris
(b. around 1909) and Benjamin (b. around 1911) GERMAN,
who lived in Brooklyn, NY, before WWII. Their parents
were David and Tilla GERMAN. The family came to the
US >from Gorodnitza, Volhyn, in 1926-27.

Thanks,
Leonard Kamenetsky
San Jose, California, USA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


IGS NEGEV meeting. #general

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

We would welcome any of you who might be in our neighbourhood to our next
meeting of the

Israel Genealogical Society - Negev Branch
" HaHevra HaGenealogit HaYisraelit "
* * * * * *
The next meeting of IGS-Negev branch for this year will take place:
Date: Wednesday, Dec. 5, 2001

Time: 20:00 (Library open >from 7:30)

Place: Kehilat Magen Avraham
Corner of Rehov Ad-Ad and Rehov Margalit
Omer

Our speaker will be Ida Schwarcz, a member of our Negev group.
Ida Schwarcz, nee Ida Cohen, grew up in a Yiddish speaking home, to
immigrant parents who had survived the Ukrainian pogroms of 1919-1920. Her
parents often talked of the old country and their relatives there and her
father who had a wonderful memory, often reminisced about relatives, close
and distant. Thus, even as a child, she was exposed to genealogy, although
she did not know that that was what it was called. Most of her genealogical
research is based on childhood memories. Her knowledge of Yiddish has
helped her no end.
"Climbing her mother's tree" is a talk based on oral traditions, yizker
bikher, interviews, published biographies, and other source materials. Ida
has not yet graduated to the use of Ukrainian archives.

Phones for details or questions:
Martha Lev-Zion - 6460494
Shirley Rosen - 6422589

Visit the web site of IGS: www.isragen.org.il

Martha Lev-Zion, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen IGS NEGEV meeting. #general

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

We would welcome any of you who might be in our neighbourhood to our next
meeting of the

Israel Genealogical Society - Negev Branch
" HaHevra HaGenealogit HaYisraelit "
* * * * * *
The next meeting of IGS-Negev branch for this year will take place:
Date: Wednesday, Dec. 5, 2001

Time: 20:00 (Library open >from 7:30)

Place: Kehilat Magen Avraham
Corner of Rehov Ad-Ad and Rehov Margalit
Omer

Our speaker will be Ida Schwarcz, a member of our Negev group.
Ida Schwarcz, nee Ida Cohen, grew up in a Yiddish speaking home, to
immigrant parents who had survived the Ukrainian pogroms of 1919-1920. Her
parents often talked of the old country and their relatives there and her
father who had a wonderful memory, often reminisced about relatives, close
and distant. Thus, even as a child, she was exposed to genealogy, although
she did not know that that was what it was called. Most of her genealogical
research is based on childhood memories. Her knowledge of Yiddish has
helped her no end.
"Climbing her mother's tree" is a talk based on oral traditions, yizker
bikher, interviews, published biographies, and other source materials. Ida
has not yet graduated to the use of Ukrainian archives.

Phones for details or questions:
Martha Lev-Zion - 6460494
Shirley Rosen - 6422589

Visit the web site of IGS: www.isragen.org.il

Martha Lev-Zion, Israel


News from Riga #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

The following should be of interest.

Jerusalem Post

Latvia opens Jewish exhibition
By Elli Wohlgelernter

RIGA, Latvia (November 30) - As part of their continuing efforts to teach
Latvians about the history of Jews in Latvia, the government opened a
traveling exhibit here yesterday on the country's Jewish community entitled
"History, Tragedy, Revival." The exhibit, mounted on 20 panels, was part of
a two-day international seminar taking place at the University of Latvia on
the issues of Holocaust research. The exhibit also coincides with the 60th
anniversary of the massacre of Riga's 30,000 Jews in Rumbula Forest on
November 30, 1941. "We have devoted special efforts to insure that in our
history books, and in the teachings of our schools, our past, including the
two periods of occupation, gets particular attention," said Vaira
Vike-Freiberga, Latvia's president." The exhibit's panels begin with the
first presence of Jews in Latvia in the mid-1600s, and include photographs
of people and places illustrating Jewish life in Latvia in the 18th and
19th centuries; before World War I; Jews in the Latvian War of Independence
of 1918-1920; Zionism in Latvia before 1940; religious life; Jews who
served in the People's Council and the Constitutional Assembly of Latvia;
the Holocaust and Latvian Righteous Gentiles who saved Jews; the revival of

the Latvian Jewish community since the fall of Communism; and the
relationship between Latvia and Israel. The Foreign Ministry sponsored the
exhibit, with help >from the Jewish Museum of Latvia, the Center for Judaic
Studies at the University of Latvia, and the History Commission of Latvia.
The American Embassy in Riga also helped finance the exhibit.


Arlene Beare
President Latvia SIG


Latvia SIG #Latvia News from Riga #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

The following should be of interest.

Jerusalem Post

Latvia opens Jewish exhibition
By Elli Wohlgelernter

RIGA, Latvia (November 30) - As part of their continuing efforts to teach
Latvians about the history of Jews in Latvia, the government opened a
traveling exhibit here yesterday on the country's Jewish community entitled
"History, Tragedy, Revival." The exhibit, mounted on 20 panels, was part of
a two-day international seminar taking place at the University of Latvia on
the issues of Holocaust research. The exhibit also coincides with the 60th
anniversary of the massacre of Riga's 30,000 Jews in Rumbula Forest on
November 30, 1941. "We have devoted special efforts to insure that in our
history books, and in the teachings of our schools, our past, including the
two periods of occupation, gets particular attention," said Vaira
Vike-Freiberga, Latvia's president." The exhibit's panels begin with the
first presence of Jews in Latvia in the mid-1600s, and include photographs
of people and places illustrating Jewish life in Latvia in the 18th and
19th centuries; before World War I; Jews in the Latvian War of Independence
of 1918-1920; Zionism in Latvia before 1940; religious life; Jews who
served in the People's Council and the Constitutional Assembly of Latvia;
the Holocaust and Latvian Righteous Gentiles who saved Jews; the revival of

the Latvian Jewish community since the fall of Communism; and the
relationship between Latvia and Israel. The Foreign Ministry sponsored the
exhibit, with help >from the Jewish Museum of Latvia, the Center for Judaic
Studies at the University of Latvia, and the History Commission of Latvia.
The American Embassy in Riga also helped finance the exhibit.


Arlene Beare
President Latvia SIG


inquiry about Lurie from the shtelt Shedova #latvia

Patti Sowalsky <psow@...>
 

I know that my grandfather, Aaron Lurie, came to the U.S. >from Riga in
1888. One of my cousins who worked with a Latvian genealogist in that
city last summer found no mention of the family there but was told that
the family might have been >from the shtetl of Shedova. Is there anyone
who knows anything about this sthetl - or about a Lurie family from
that area? Patti Sowalsky


Latvia SIG #Latvia inquiry about Lurie from the shtelt Shedova #latvia

Patti Sowalsky <psow@...>
 

I know that my grandfather, Aaron Lurie, came to the U.S. >from Riga in
1888. One of my cousins who worked with a Latvian genealogist in that
city last summer found no mention of the family there but was told that
the family might have been >from the shtetl of Shedova. Is there anyone
who knows anything about this sthetl - or about a Lurie family from
that area? Patti Sowalsky


Location of Wolynia #ukraine

Jim or Amy Leserman <lesermanja@...>
 

My Shanavoy relatives came >from Korets-Volynski/Wolynia. I had formerly
believed that Korets was a town in Wolynia, a region of the current
Ukraine,but now am unsure. I have an envelope of photos labelled
Association for Wolynian Jews. Can someone put me on the right track for
Wolynia? The shtetlseeker gave too many answers to be useful. Is there a
web page or shtetlelink that would be helpful? I haven't found any yet on JewishGen.

Thank you!

Amy Leserman
Researching MANDELKER(n), ADLERSTEIN, SHANAVOY/SHANAWAY/SHANOVOY and BLIMAN
in current Ukraine


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Location of Wolynia #ukraine

Jim or Amy Leserman <lesermanja@...>
 

My Shanavoy relatives came >from Korets-Volynski/Wolynia. I had formerly
believed that Korets was a town in Wolynia, a region of the current
Ukraine,but now am unsure. I have an envelope of photos labelled
Association for Wolynian Jews. Can someone put me on the right track for
Wolynia? The shtetlseeker gave too many answers to be useful. Is there a
web page or shtetlelink that would be helpful? I haven't found any yet on JewishGen.

Thank you!

Amy Leserman
Researching MANDELKER(n), ADLERSTEIN, SHANAVOY/SHANAWAY/SHANOVOY and BLIMAN
in current Ukraine


A city in Ukraine #ukraine

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

A town in Ukraine has me stumped. I have 5 examples of it written by
hand (New York City passenger arrivals):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/1129-erdal/1130.rach.gif

Family lore says it is "near Kiev."

My eyes tell me it is one of these towns:

Rashwelowke
Rachualowka
Rachvebalovke
Rachwalenka
Rachwalewke
Rachwalinke
Rachwalowka
Rachwalowka
Rachwalowke
Rachwalufka
Racherlawby

Can you help read this town, and figure out where it is?

Daniel
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu

Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA,
and ZYLBERBERG
Ukraine: OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LISS, SOBLE-SOBEL, STEIN, AXMAN
Turkey: KAZEZ-KAZES, ALHADEF-ELHADEF, FRESKO-FRESCO, HABIB, DEVIDAS-DE
VIDAS http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine A city in Ukraine #ukraine

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

A town in Ukraine has me stumped. I have 5 examples of it written by
hand (New York City passenger arrivals):

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/1129-erdal/1130.rach.gif

Family lore says it is "near Kiev."

My eyes tell me it is one of these towns:

Rashwelowke
Rachualowka
Rachvebalovke
Rachwalenka
Rachwalewke
Rachwalinke
Rachwalowka
Rachwalowka
Rachwalowke
Rachwalufka
Racherlawby

Can you help read this town, and figure out where it is?

Daniel
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu

Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA,
and ZYLBERBERG
Ukraine: OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LISS, SOBLE-SOBEL, STEIN, AXMAN
Turkey: KAZEZ-KAZES, ALHADEF-ELHADEF, FRESKO-FRESCO, HABIB, DEVIDAS-DE
VIDAS http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


Re: Female name - Nutta ? #galicia

Roberta Sheps <roberta_l_sheps@...>
 

Dear Fran and group,

Fran asked:
" My g-father's sister's tombstone reads Chai-yud-hay Nun-yud-tov-hay
bat
....... First name is obviously Chaya. Any ideas on the "middle name"?
I've heard of the name Nuta or Nutta, but only for a male (often winds up
as something like Nathan).

Any thoughts on what this female Yiddish/Hebrew name could be, or what it
might have become in English?"


There is a female Nuta in my family tree, but, as an additional guess,
could the name have been Nita?

Roberta Sheps
Colchester, England


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Female name - Nutta ? #ukraine

Roberta Sheps <roberta_l_sheps@...>
 

Dear Fran and group,

Fran asked:
" My g-father's sister's tombstone reads Chai-yud-hay Nun-yud-tov-hay
bat
....... First name is obviously Chaya. Any ideas on the "middle name"?
I've heard of the name Nuta or Nutta, but only for a male (often winds up
as something like Nathan).

Any thoughts on what this female Yiddish/Hebrew name could be, or what it
might have become in English?"


There is a female Nuta in my family tree, but, as an additional guess,
could the name have been Nita?

Roberta Sheps
Colchester, England