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Re: Book "A Prayer for the Government" by Abramson Henry #ukraine

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

It can be found in Israel at the following university libraries -
Tel-Aviv, Haif, Hebrew U and the National Library and I think the original
PhD thesis >from 1995 is at Bar-Ilan.

Rose Feldman

rosef@post.tau.ac.il
EPSTEIN/BOYARSKY Amstiveva, Mstibov or Mstibovo or Mscibow (Belarus);
Ruzhany or maybe Rozhno; Petach Tikvah, Chicago, Argentine
GITNER/LULKIN/REZNIK Litin (Lityn) Ukraine,Kalinovka Ukraine, Israel,
Chicago
ILEWICKI/ILIWITSKY/ELEVITSKY Kusava Grodno Belarus
TREPMAN/SOJCHER/SLOVIK Warsaw, Israel
FELDMAN/LICHT Warsaw, Israel


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Book "A Prayer for the Government" by Abramson Henry #ukraine

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

It can be found in Israel at the following university libraries -
Tel-Aviv, Haif, Hebrew U and the National Library and I think the original
PhD thesis >from 1995 is at Bar-Ilan.

Rose Feldman

rosef@post.tau.ac.il
EPSTEIN/BOYARSKY Amstiveva, Mstibov or Mstibovo or Mscibow (Belarus);
Ruzhany or maybe Rozhno; Petach Tikvah, Chicago, Argentine
GITNER/LULKIN/REZNIK Litin (Lityn) Ukraine,Kalinovka Ukraine, Israel,
Chicago
ILEWICKI/ILIWITSKY/ELEVITSKY Kusava Grodno Belarus
TREPMAN/SOJCHER/SLOVIK Warsaw, Israel
FELDMAN/LICHT Warsaw, Israel


Where Is Yazov? #ukraine

Harvey & Helen Levin <helenharv@...>
 

Greetings Genners:
I came across an obituary notice (written some years ago) related to my
paternal grandmother. It stated that she came >from an area of the Pale that
was listed as "Yazov colony." I gather that the author of the notice
probably was referring to a particular shtetl. I tried inputting Yazov in
the Shtetl-Finder and the closest name it gave was Zahshkov. Somehow I
don't believe that answer is correct. If anyone is able to shed additional
light on my query, I would appreciate a communication. You can respond
privately:
HelenHarv@hotmail.com

Thank you,
Harvey Levin
Huntington Beach,CA

Searching: CHANSON, LEVIN, LEVINE, LEWIN, SASLOW, SASLOVSKY, TORGOVITSKY,
and NOZICK


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Where Is Yazov? #ukraine

Harvey & Helen Levin <helenharv@...>
 

Greetings Genners:
I came across an obituary notice (written some years ago) related to my
paternal grandmother. It stated that she came >from an area of the Pale that
was listed as "Yazov colony." I gather that the author of the notice
probably was referring to a particular shtetl. I tried inputting Yazov in
the Shtetl-Finder and the closest name it gave was Zahshkov. Somehow I
don't believe that answer is correct. If anyone is able to shed additional
light on my query, I would appreciate a communication. You can respond
privately:
HelenHarv@hotmail.com

Thank you,
Harvey Levin
Huntington Beach,CA

Searching: CHANSON, LEVIN, LEVINE, LEWIN, SASLOW, SASLOVSKY, TORGOVITSKY,
and NOZICK


Calling all Khersonites! #ukraine

Bob <rjalexand@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I've been reading messages on this board for many months and do not recall
anyone but myself whose ancestors came >from Kherson or Cherson which is a
Black Sea port city located at the mouth of the Dnieper River.

I conclude >from this that the Jewish population of the city at the turn of
the 20th century was small. My mother, SADA MEHLMAN, was about 8 or ten when
she left there in 1903-5 with her mother, DORA BELSKY MEHLMAN, and older
siblings ANNA and JACK [or ISAAC] for Germany >from where they emigrated to
Detroit and later Toledo, Ohio.

Her father, MORRIS or MOSES MEHLMAN, had emigrated to Detroit a year or two
earlier >from the Mediterranean port of Trieste--according to a kind Genner
who found his name for me recently on the Ellis Island data base.

I am thinking that if there were so few Jews in Kherson in those days, they
must have all either known one another well or even been related.

So I would like to hear the family stories of any Genners who trace their
ancestors there.



--Bob Alexander

tracing MEHLMAN, SOKOLOV, VOLKHOV in the Ukraine, esp. KHERSON, NIKOLAEV,
KISHINEV and ODESSA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Calling all Khersonites! #ukraine

Bob <rjalexand@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I've been reading messages on this board for many months and do not recall
anyone but myself whose ancestors came >from Kherson or Cherson which is a
Black Sea port city located at the mouth of the Dnieper River.

I conclude >from this that the Jewish population of the city at the turn of
the 20th century was small. My mother, SADA MEHLMAN, was about 8 or ten when
she left there in 1903-5 with her mother, DORA BELSKY MEHLMAN, and older
siblings ANNA and JACK [or ISAAC] for Germany >from where they emigrated to
Detroit and later Toledo, Ohio.

Her father, MORRIS or MOSES MEHLMAN, had emigrated to Detroit a year or two
earlier >from the Mediterranean port of Trieste--according to a kind Genner
who found his name for me recently on the Ellis Island data base.

I am thinking that if there were so few Jews in Kherson in those days, they
must have all either known one another well or even been related.

So I would like to hear the family stories of any Genners who trace their
ancestors there.



--Bob Alexander

tracing MEHLMAN, SOKOLOV, VOLKHOV in the Ukraine, esp. KHERSON, NIKOLAEV,
KISHINEV and ODESSA


Re: chuna #general

Searl, Marjorie <msearl@...>
 

I have another perspective to offer on the name Chuna. My grandfather
was called Chuna - there is some question in the family as to whether or
not he was named for someone named Chana, and this was considered to be
a masculine-enough version. HIs English name was Hyman, but I never
heard a soul refer to him by that name. Growing up in the North End and
West End of Boston, many of his friends were Irish and Italian, and to
them, the name Chuna sounded like Honey. So Honey he became, and was
known and loved by one and all as Honey Manevitch, later Honey Mann.
(Again, Honey is a name that we would assume to be female but in this
case, was male).

Marjorie Searl
msearl@mag.rochester.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: chuna #general

Searl, Marjorie <msearl@...>
 

I have another perspective to offer on the name Chuna. My grandfather
was called Chuna - there is some question in the family as to whether or
not he was named for someone named Chana, and this was considered to be
a masculine-enough version. HIs English name was Hyman, but I never
heard a soul refer to him by that name. Growing up in the North End and
West End of Boston, many of his friends were Irish and Italian, and to
them, the name Chuna sounded like Honey. So Honey he became, and was
known and loved by one and all as Honey Manevitch, later Honey Mann.
(Again, Honey is a name that we would assume to be female but in this
case, was male).

Marjorie Searl
msearl@mag.rochester.edu


Re: Signing Off - Repository for Family Info? #general

Mervin Rosenbaum <mervinr@...>
 

In 1997, I sent a family tree to the American Jewish Archives at 3101
Clifton Avenue, Cincinnati, Ohio 45220-2488. You might check to see
if they still want such informtion.

Jean Rosenbaum
Baytown, TX


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Signing Off - Repository for Family Info? #general

Mervin Rosenbaum <mervinr@...>
 

In 1997, I sent a family tree to the American Jewish Archives at 3101
Clifton Avenue, Cincinnati, Ohio 45220-2488. You might check to see
if they still want such informtion.

Jean Rosenbaum
Baytown, TX


ViewMate 1086: Hebrew-Yiddish Biographical Dictionary Article #general

purple.ice@...
 

I would very much appreciate it if someone could
translate an article about my second cousin David
Pliskin, the Yiddish poet/writer, now on display at
ViewMate:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

The direct address is:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1086.html

Please respond directly to me.

Thanks in advance,
Nancy Maxwell
Grapevine, Texas USA
purple.ice@worldnet.att.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate 1086: Hebrew-Yiddish Biographical Dictionary Article #general

purple.ice@...
 

I would very much appreciate it if someone could
translate an article about my second cousin David
Pliskin, the Yiddish poet/writer, now on display at
ViewMate:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

The direct address is:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1086.html

Please respond directly to me.

Thanks in advance,
Nancy Maxwell
Grapevine, Texas USA
purple.ice@worldnet.att.net


Further on elements of Jewish DNA #dna

Kevin Brook <kbrook@...>
 

Dear friends and colleagues,

I would like to add to my remarks concerning the latest Jewish DNA study
["The Y Chromosome Pool of Jews as Part of the Genetic Landscape of the
Middle East" by Almut Nebel, Ariella Oppenheim, et al., The American
Journal of Human Genetics 69:5 (November 2001): 1095-1112].

First, it says that Jews are _most_ related to Kurds and _secondarily_ to
other northern Mediterranean groups, then to Arabs and Europeans.

Second, this study correlates nicely with the finding that the Cohen Modal
Haplotype (CMH) is found not only among Sephardic Jews and Ashkenazic Jews
but also among Iraqi Kurds*1 and Armenians*2. Plus, Familial
Mediterranean Fever is found among Ashkenazic Jews, Iraqi Jews, North
African Jews, Armenians, Druze, Anatolian Turks, and Arabs*3.

Third, one point not fully clarified by Ha'aretz*4 and the Jerusalem
Post*5 is the following quote directly >from the Nebel, Oppenheim, et al.
study, which shows that Ashkenazic Jews do have some non-Israelite
elements (perhaps Khazarian and Slavic) in paternal lineages. The
researchers wrote:

"Previous studies of Y chromosome polymorphisms reported a small
European contribution to the Ashkenazi paternal gene pool
(Santachiara-Benerecetti et al. 1993). In our sample, this
low-level gene flow may be reflected in the Eu 19 chromosomes,
which are found at elevated frequency (12.7%) in Ashkenazi Jews and
which are very frequent in Eastern Europeans (54%-60%) (Semino et
al. 2000). Alternatively, it is attractive to hypothesize that
Ashkenazim with Eu 19 chromosomes represent descendants of the
Khazars, originally a Turkic tribe >from Central Asia, who settled
in southern Russia and eastern Ukraine and converted en masse to
Judaism in the ninth century of the present era, as described by
Yehuda Ha Levi in 1140 AD (Dunlop 1954)."

This finding, along with Nathaniel Pearson's research (whose Ukrainian
Jewish Y-chromosomal haplotype matched with an Uzbekistani Uzbek, an
Uzbekistani Tajik, and two men >from New Delhi in northern India),
contradicts the assertion of other geneticists that Ashkenazim are not at
all descended >from Khazars and other European converts.

Sincerely yours,
Kevin Brook

Footnotes:
*1 C. Brinkmann et al., "Human Y-chromosomal STR haplotypes in a
Kurdish population sample." International Journal of Legal Medicine 112
(1999): 181-183.
*2 Communication >from Dr. Levon Yepiskoposyan of the Armenian
Anthropological Society.
*3 Nicholas Wade, "Gene >from Mideast Ancestor May Link 4 Disparate
Peoples." The New York Times (August 22, 1997).
*4 Tamara Traubman, "Study finds close genetic connection between
Jews, Kurds." Ha'aretz (November 21, 2001).
*5 Judy Siegel, "Genetic evidence links Jews to their ancient tribe."
The Jerusalem Post (November 20, 2001).


DNA Research #DNA Further on elements of Jewish DNA #dna

Kevin Brook <kbrook@...>
 

Dear friends and colleagues,

I would like to add to my remarks concerning the latest Jewish DNA study
["The Y Chromosome Pool of Jews as Part of the Genetic Landscape of the
Middle East" by Almut Nebel, Ariella Oppenheim, et al., The American
Journal of Human Genetics 69:5 (November 2001): 1095-1112].

First, it says that Jews are _most_ related to Kurds and _secondarily_ to
other northern Mediterranean groups, then to Arabs and Europeans.

Second, this study correlates nicely with the finding that the Cohen Modal
Haplotype (CMH) is found not only among Sephardic Jews and Ashkenazic Jews
but also among Iraqi Kurds*1 and Armenians*2. Plus, Familial
Mediterranean Fever is found among Ashkenazic Jews, Iraqi Jews, North
African Jews, Armenians, Druze, Anatolian Turks, and Arabs*3.

Third, one point not fully clarified by Ha'aretz*4 and the Jerusalem
Post*5 is the following quote directly >from the Nebel, Oppenheim, et al.
study, which shows that Ashkenazic Jews do have some non-Israelite
elements (perhaps Khazarian and Slavic) in paternal lineages. The
researchers wrote:

"Previous studies of Y chromosome polymorphisms reported a small
European contribution to the Ashkenazi paternal gene pool
(Santachiara-Benerecetti et al. 1993). In our sample, this
low-level gene flow may be reflected in the Eu 19 chromosomes,
which are found at elevated frequency (12.7%) in Ashkenazi Jews and
which are very frequent in Eastern Europeans (54%-60%) (Semino et
al. 2000). Alternatively, it is attractive to hypothesize that
Ashkenazim with Eu 19 chromosomes represent descendants of the
Khazars, originally a Turkic tribe >from Central Asia, who settled
in southern Russia and eastern Ukraine and converted en masse to
Judaism in the ninth century of the present era, as described by
Yehuda Ha Levi in 1140 AD (Dunlop 1954)."

This finding, along with Nathaniel Pearson's research (whose Ukrainian
Jewish Y-chromosomal haplotype matched with an Uzbekistani Uzbek, an
Uzbekistani Tajik, and two men >from New Delhi in northern India),
contradicts the assertion of other geneticists that Ashkenazim are not at
all descended >from Khazars and other European converts.

Sincerely yours,
Kevin Brook

Footnotes:
*1 C. Brinkmann et al., "Human Y-chromosomal STR haplotypes in a
Kurdish population sample." International Journal of Legal Medicine 112
(1999): 181-183.
*2 Communication >from Dr. Levon Yepiskoposyan of the Armenian
Anthropological Society.
*3 Nicholas Wade, "Gene >from Mideast Ancestor May Link 4 Disparate
Peoples." The New York Times (August 22, 1997).
*4 Tamara Traubman, "Study finds close genetic connection between
Jews, Kurds." Ha'aretz (November 21, 2001).
*5 Judy Siegel, "Genetic evidence links Jews to their ancient tribe."
The Jerusalem Post (November 20, 2001).


DAVID AND ANNA RUBENSTEIN #belarus

BUBBICHAR@...
 

Will the person who contacted me regarding the above names please contact
me again. I have not been able to download their original message or return a
message to him or her.

Thanks,

Charlotte Abrams
Venice, California

SEARCHING; RUBENSTEIN, Belarus, STILLMAN, Belarus


Belarus SIG #Belarus DAVID AND ANNA RUBENSTEIN #belarus

BUBBICHAR@...
 

Will the person who contacted me regarding the above names please contact
me again. I have not been able to download their original message or return a
message to him or her.

Thanks,

Charlotte Abrams
Venice, California

SEARCHING; RUBENSTEIN, Belarus, STILLMAN, Belarus


Krakow Marriage and Banns Project #general

Judy Wolkovitch <judywolk@...>
 

It was terrific to read Peter Jassem's enthusiastic response to his receipt
of the Krakow marriage records that he ordered >from the Jewish Historical
Institute.

In reviewing his e-mail I realised that the later Fonds (998-1010) contain
more information than the earlier ones (Fonds 991-997). In fact, the
later fonds are *marriages* and the earlier ones are *banns*.

To help you decide whether to order copies of records we have added tables
describing the Fond numbers and their columns to the JRI-PL website (>from
the JRI-Poland home page, go to the Jewish Historical Institute, Warsaw and
then to the Krakow Project which is No. 1.)

Happy hunting!!

Judy Wolkovitch
Project Manager


Bialobrzegi #general

Charlyne Ashford <ashford@...>
 

Wondering if town records exist for Bialobrzegi, and if so, how do I
access them. I am looking for the MONHAIT family.
Thanks
Charlyne Ashford


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Krakow Marriage and Banns Project #general

Judy Wolkovitch <judywolk@...>
 

It was terrific to read Peter Jassem's enthusiastic response to his receipt
of the Krakow marriage records that he ordered >from the Jewish Historical
Institute.

In reviewing his e-mail I realised that the later Fonds (998-1010) contain
more information than the earlier ones (Fonds 991-997). In fact, the
later fonds are *marriages* and the earlier ones are *banns*.

To help you decide whether to order copies of records we have added tables
describing the Fond numbers and their columns to the JRI-PL website (>from
the JRI-Poland home page, go to the Jewish Historical Institute, Warsaw and
then to the Krakow Project which is No. 1.)

Happy hunting!!

Judy Wolkovitch
Project Manager


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bialobrzegi #general

Charlyne Ashford <ashford@...>
 

Wondering if town records exist for Bialobrzegi, and if so, how do I
access them. I am looking for the MONHAIT family.
Thanks
Charlyne Ashford