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Thank You - Americanisation of Hebrew names #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Dear Genners,

Many many thanks to so many of you who responded to my
request for Americanisation of Hebrew names.

I certainly have more to work on now.

However *Yirl* - female -(Romanian origin)- still seems to
be the sticking point.

Best wishes to you all.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)

Where is Clara Lugovaya Shwartz? #general

Marilyn Feingold <mrl@...>
 

I am quite certain that Clara Lugovaya Shwartz is my relative.
In 1997 she gave testimony to Yad Vashem about her grandmother,
Meni Milgrom, my grandmother's sister. At that time she lived
in Eilat at xxx Sheshet Hayamim. Do you know Clara?

Thanks for your help! Marilyn Feingold

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How to send a Sterling cheque/money order from Israel to UK? #general

Wreschner, Jonathan <jonathan.wreschner@...>
 

Hello,

Following on >from my discovery in FreeBMD of a possible relative
born in Whitechapel UK in Dec 1894, I wrote to the Register Office
of the Tower Hamlets area in London which includes the historic
district of Whitechapel and asked for the procedure to obtain a
copy of the birth certificate.

Together with the details, I need to enclose a cheque/money order
for 6.50 pounds sterling per certificate and a self addressed
envelope.

Being in Israel, I do not have a bank account in the UK, and also
no English stamps for the self-addressed envelope. I was wondering
what others do in a similar situation. The cheque/money order,
I suppose I could handle in my local bank, and probably pay bank
charges close to the value of the cheque (!!!), but then I still
have the problem of the stamps.

Any suggestions? If anyone is willing to handle this >from the UK,
I would be more than willing to reimburse them for the equivalent
amount in shekels.

Regards,

Jonathan Wreschner
Jerusalem, Israel

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General suggestions about handling this transaction will be
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thank You - Americanisation of Hebrew names #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Dear Genners,

Many many thanks to so many of you who responded to my
request for Americanisation of Hebrew names.

I certainly have more to work on now.

However *Yirl* - female -(Romanian origin)- still seems to
be the sticking point.

Best wishes to you all.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Where is Clara Lugovaya Shwartz? #general

Marilyn Feingold <mrl@...>
 

I am quite certain that Clara Lugovaya Shwartz is my relative.
In 1997 she gave testimony to Yad Vashem about her grandmother,
Meni Milgrom, my grandmother's sister. At that time she lived
in Eilat at xxx Sheshet Hayamim. Do you know Clara?

Thanks for your help! Marilyn Feingold

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately. Address deleted in
accordance with JewishGen's privacy policy.

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen How to send a Sterling cheque/money order from Israel to UK? #general

Wreschner, Jonathan <jonathan.wreschner@...>
 

Hello,

Following on >from my discovery in FreeBMD of a possible relative
born in Whitechapel UK in Dec 1894, I wrote to the Register Office
of the Tower Hamlets area in London which includes the historic
district of Whitechapel and asked for the procedure to obtain a
copy of the birth certificate.

Together with the details, I need to enclose a cheque/money order
for 6.50 pounds sterling per certificate and a self addressed
envelope.

Being in Israel, I do not have a bank account in the UK, and also
no English stamps for the self-addressed envelope. I was wondering
what others do in a similar situation. The cheque/money order,
I suppose I could handle in my local bank, and probably pay bank
charges close to the value of the cheque (!!!), but then I still
have the problem of the stamps.

Any suggestions? If anyone is willing to handle this >from the UK,
I would be more than willing to reimburse them for the equivalent
amount in shekels.

Regards,

Jonathan Wreschner
Jerusalem, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: Offers of assistance should be sent privately.
General suggestions about handling this transaction will be
considered for posting.

Finding a grave in Holyoke MA & the name Cecil #general

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Fran and Genners,

According to the 1907-08 American Jewish Year Book which includes a
directory to national and local organizations, there is a Jewish
cemetery in Holyoke (well at least back then). The entry reads
"Agudas Achim, Fairview. Used by all congregations and lodges" There
were two congregations in Holyoke, Anshei Rodfei Sholem and Sons of
Zion. The Jewish population numbered 300 people.

Hope this of some help to you.

Jeremy Frankel
Oakland, California

President,
San Francisco Bay Area
Jewish Genealogical Society

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finding a grave in Holyoke MA & the name Cecil #general

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Fran and Genners,

According to the 1907-08 American Jewish Year Book which includes a
directory to national and local organizations, there is a Jewish
cemetery in Holyoke (well at least back then). The entry reads
"Agudas Achim, Fairview. Used by all congregations and lodges" There
were two congregations in Holyoke, Anshei Rodfei Sholem and Sons of
Zion. The Jewish population numbered 300 people.

Hope this of some help to you.

Jeremy Frankel
Oakland, California

President,
San Francisco Bay Area
Jewish Genealogical Society

Towns or shtetls in Hungary #hungary

SelmaN@...
 

I found the names of the following towns or shtetls on a Petition for
Naturalization. But I cannot find them on a map, and I'm sure they are
misspelled on the Petition. Can someone give me the correct spellings, and
tell me where the towns are located.

- Komarocz
- Vajkocz
- Ketergeny

Thank you!

Selma Neubauer
Jenkintown, PA USA
SelmaN@...

Hungary SIG #Hungary Towns or shtetls in Hungary #hungary

SelmaN@...
 

I found the names of the following towns or shtetls on a Petition for
Naturalization. But I cannot find them on a map, and I'm sure they are
misspelled on the Petition. Can someone give me the correct spellings, and
tell me where the towns are located.

- Komarocz
- Vajkocz
- Ketergeny

Thank you!

Selma Neubauer
Jenkintown, PA USA
SelmaN@...

Funeral data/Datos sobre el funeral #hungary

Touvia Goldstein <teddyg1@...>
 

Family and friends,
Familia y amigos,

Poli's funeral will take place tomorrow August 14, 2002 at 16:00 hours in
the Geula Port of Hayarkon Cemetary.

El funeral de Poli se llevara a efecto manana 14 de Agosto 2002 a las 16:00
en la Puerta Geula del Cementerio de Hayarkon.

The family

La Familia

Hungary SIG #Hungary Funeral data/Datos sobre el funeral #hungary

Touvia Goldstein <teddyg1@...>
 

Family and friends,
Familia y amigos,

Poli's funeral will take place tomorrow August 14, 2002 at 16:00 hours in
the Geula Port of Hayarkon Cemetary.

El funeral de Poli se llevara a efecto manana 14 de Agosto 2002 a las 16:00
en la Puerta Geula del Cementerio de Hayarkon.

The family

La Familia

Ship manifests for return visits #belarus

Marion Werle <werle@...>
 

There is no departure information--the record I referred to was, in fact, an
arrival, for the RETURN trip >from the visit to Lithuania. If you check the
manifest indexes, you can often find the same name listed multiple times.
Presumably, some of these are returns >from repeated visits by the same
person (especially if the year and the age increases), although I have never
verified this. In the record I am referring to, the cousin lived in Canada,
and visited her sister in Ukmerge, Lithuania, in 1934. She took a ship
which returned to New York. Her nationality on the manifest is Canadian,
her place of birth shows as Ukmerge, Lithuania, her nearest relative in the
country "whence alien came" shows as her sister, with the name and address
in Ukmerge, her final destination shows as Montreal, Canada, and the "To
join relative or friend" lists the name and address of her two sons in
Montreal. Also, because the record is fairly late, it is typed, and easy to
read.

On the manifest page I have printed, which only has twelve entries, all but
two are NOT U.S. citizens, and the two that are were children traveling with
their mother (a citizen of Hungary). These children have a reference to the
entry to their mother, and shows that they obtained U.S. passports in
Budapest a few weeks earlier. What I don't know is whether the same
information would be listed for an adult who was a naturalized (or native
born) U.S. citizen. If the relative were an alien, the information would
definitely be there, again, for the RETURN trip only. Anybody who moved
back to Europe permanently wouldn't show up. The manifests are immigration
records "At Port of Arrival"--my guess is that the U.S. immigration officers
probably wouldn't care about anybody leaving, except if they were being
deported.

from what I can determine, based on census records, many immigrant
generation ancestors remained aliens and did not bother to become citizens,
so they would be treated as aliens on ship manifests for return visits.
However, I wonder how common it was for people to go back--my direct
ancesters were, without exception, poor, and even if they wanted to,
probably could not have afforded the round trip ship fare!

Marion Werle
<werle@...>

Belarus SIG #Belarus Ship manifests for return visits #belarus

Marion Werle <werle@...>
 

There is no departure information--the record I referred to was, in fact, an
arrival, for the RETURN trip >from the visit to Lithuania. If you check the
manifest indexes, you can often find the same name listed multiple times.
Presumably, some of these are returns >from repeated visits by the same
person (especially if the year and the age increases), although I have never
verified this. In the record I am referring to, the cousin lived in Canada,
and visited her sister in Ukmerge, Lithuania, in 1934. She took a ship
which returned to New York. Her nationality on the manifest is Canadian,
her place of birth shows as Ukmerge, Lithuania, her nearest relative in the
country "whence alien came" shows as her sister, with the name and address
in Ukmerge, her final destination shows as Montreal, Canada, and the "To
join relative or friend" lists the name and address of her two sons in
Montreal. Also, because the record is fairly late, it is typed, and easy to
read.

On the manifest page I have printed, which only has twelve entries, all but
two are NOT U.S. citizens, and the two that are were children traveling with
their mother (a citizen of Hungary). These children have a reference to the
entry to their mother, and shows that they obtained U.S. passports in
Budapest a few weeks earlier. What I don't know is whether the same
information would be listed for an adult who was a naturalized (or native
born) U.S. citizen. If the relative were an alien, the information would
definitely be there, again, for the RETURN trip only. Anybody who moved
back to Europe permanently wouldn't show up. The manifests are immigration
records "At Port of Arrival"--my guess is that the U.S. immigration officers
probably wouldn't care about anybody leaving, except if they were being
deported.

from what I can determine, based on census records, many immigrant
generation ancestors remained aliens and did not bother to become citizens,
so they would be treated as aliens on ship manifests for return visits.
However, I wonder how common it was for people to go back--my direct
ancesters were, without exception, poor, and even if they wanted to,
probably could not have afforded the round trip ship fare!

Marion Werle
<werle@...>

Lancaster #usa

Rachel Unkefer <runkefer@...>
 

This bibliography on the JewishGen web site should be of help:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ajgs/bibliography/Pennsylvania.htm

It has 3 citations for Lancaster. You might be able to have your
library do an interlibrary loan.

In addition, try the Lancaster County Historical Society:

http://LanClio.org/

There is also a Lancaster County page of the US GenWeb project, but I
am unable to get it to connect right now, so there may be a problem
with the site, or they may have moved and I don't have the correct
URL. I will try to get that for you as well.

--
Rachel Unkefer
Charlottesville, VA
runkefer@...

Early American SIG #USA Lancaster #usa

Rachel Unkefer <runkefer@...>
 

This bibliography on the JewishGen web site should be of help:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ajgs/bibliography/Pennsylvania.htm

It has 3 citations for Lancaster. You might be able to have your
library do an interlibrary loan.

In addition, try the Lancaster County Historical Society:

http://LanClio.org/

There is also a Lancaster County page of the US GenWeb project, but I
am unable to get it to connect right now, so there may be a problem
with the site, or they may have moved and I don't have the correct
URL. I will try to get that for you as well.

--
Rachel Unkefer
Charlottesville, VA
runkefer@...

WOW!!!! #ukraine

Jimmy Rodgers <pigglet@...>
 

When I sent my message this morning I never expected to have a response
this soon. I did not even expect to have this much response. I should
have found this sight a long time ago. Thank you to everyone who has
answered me.

I have researched the ellis island sight with all forms of BLASSMAN
spelling to no avail. There are a couple of people but they came from
amsterdam and way off places >from russia.

I have tried naturalization paper work because just about everyone had to
become citizens before finding work. Once again to no avail.

Some one has suggested looking for forms of BLASSMAN with a V instead of a
b. I will definently take everyone's advice and look at all the avenues
that has been sent to me. Laura

Re: Kamenets Podolsky(" kamenitz podulski") #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

Stephen Mednick told me that a URL regarding the Barg genealogy which I gave
early today in my response to Ms. Rodgers' inquiry about Kamenitz Podulskia
[sic] did not work. Please forgive me and try this URL instead:

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Musee/7075/kamenets.htm

Ms. Rodgers and others interested in Kamenets can also try:

http://www.dvjc.org/history/ukraine.shtml

which is Jewishgenner David Chapin's account of his trip to the Ukraine
during which he visited the "beautifully-preserved city of
"Kamenets-Poldolski."

But, as I said earlier, there are a lot of other websites regarding Kamenets
Podolsky, with various spellings of the name (but not with "podulski."

Also,they may want to read Chapter I of Yehezkel Kotik's Reminiscences at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Kamenets/kam029.html

in which he describes his native "townlet" "Kamenetz."

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine WOW!!!! #ukraine

Jimmy Rodgers <pigglet@...>
 

When I sent my message this morning I never expected to have a response
this soon. I did not even expect to have this much response. I should
have found this sight a long time ago. Thank you to everyone who has
answered me.

I have researched the ellis island sight with all forms of BLASSMAN
spelling to no avail. There are a couple of people but they came from
amsterdam and way off places >from russia.

I have tried naturalization paper work because just about everyone had to
become citizens before finding work. Once again to no avail.

Some one has suggested looking for forms of BLASSMAN with a V instead of a
b. I will definently take everyone's advice and look at all the avenues
that has been sent to me. Laura

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Kamenets Podolsky(" kamenitz podulski") #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

Stephen Mednick told me that a URL regarding the Barg genealogy which I gave
early today in my response to Ms. Rodgers' inquiry about Kamenitz Podulskia
[sic] did not work. Please forgive me and try this URL instead:

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Musee/7075/kamenets.htm

Ms. Rodgers and others interested in Kamenets can also try:

http://www.dvjc.org/history/ukraine.shtml

which is Jewishgenner David Chapin's account of his trip to the Ukraine
during which he visited the "beautifully-preserved city of
"Kamenets-Poldolski."

But, as I said earlier, there are a lot of other websites regarding Kamenets
Podolsky, with various spellings of the name (but not with "podulski."

Also,they may want to read Chapter I of Yehezkel Kotik's Reminiscences at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Kamenets/kam029.html

in which he describes his native "townlet" "Kamenetz."

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.