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VM 2048 German #general

Peter Zimmer <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am looking for a word on this birth certificate of my ggrandmother.
It is the word following her father's name Simon Lang.
Is it GASTGBR? Does it mean he was a "Gastgeber"?
Perhaps being the ownwer of a hotel or something.
I know that he was a "Kaufmann" at one time, but never heard of him
having to do with hotels or something similiar.
Thank you for your suggestions.

The document can be found at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3D2048

Please answer directly to my e-mail address.

Thank you for helping.

Peter Zimmer
Muenster
Germany

MODERATOR NOTE: Direct url is
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2048
Private responses please


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VM 2048 German #general

Peter Zimmer <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am looking for a word on this birth certificate of my ggrandmother.
It is the word following her father's name Simon Lang.
Is it GASTGBR? Does it mean he was a "Gastgeber"?
Perhaps being the ownwer of a hotel or something.
I know that he was a "Kaufmann" at one time, but never heard of him
having to do with hotels or something similiar.
Thank you for your suggestions.

The document can be found at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3D2048

Please answer directly to my e-mail address.

Thank you for helping.

Peter Zimmer
Muenster
Germany

MODERATOR NOTE: Direct url is
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2048
Private responses please


Contents of LDS Films #germany

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

SEE MOD NOTE BELOW
This is a renewed request to share information:

What have you found on LDS microfilms that isn't properly described in
their catalog?

As you may recall, I recently confirmed my late father's discovery that
films 873,596-8, which are catalogued only under "Baranowitz", actually
contain almost all the birth, marriage, death, and family-register
records for the entire Kreis Rybnik in Oberschlesien (Upper Silesia) for
1812-1870. The Kreis (established as such in 1818) included three
cities: Sohrau (Zory) , Loslau (Wodislaw Slaska), and Rybnik; plus
numerous small towns and villages, including Jastrzemb, Smollna, Summin,
Belk, and, yes, Baranowitz.

My father alerted the Family History Library to the situation in 1987,
but the catalog has not been updated!
(Film 864,953, which is listed as having the records of Neu-Berun in
Kreis Pless for 1847-70, also covers some neighboring towns, such as
Imielin. I'm not as familiar with that area, but my father's notes
indicate that "Neu-Berun" is an inadequate description.)

Some of you may have made use of the downloadable list of Polish LDS
microfilms on the JRI-P site. Useful as it is, this listing is incomplete
and inconsistent, at least for Silesia. I have already found the following
omissions:
Zuelz (Biala Prudnicka): films 1,271,493 and 1,190,985, which contain
the bulk of the magistrate's records, are not listed.
Glogau (Glogow): listing for film 1,184,418 does not mention Glogau
1938 Census:
--films 1,742,505 and 1,742,507, which contain records for towns in
Middle Silesia other than Breslau, are not listed.
--films 1,742,472-3, listed as "Opole" under "town", cover the entire
Bezirk Oppeln, i.e., Upper Silesia (except for selected cities).
--films 1,742,424-5, listed as "Legnica", cover all of Lower Silesia,
i.e., Bezirk Liegnitz.

If you use LDS films: please take a few minutes to examine the entire
contents of each film and confirm that the catalog has it right! For
two decades, the Rybnik films were effectively lost to all but a few
researchers. They contain information about at least 9 of my own
ancestors, some of whom are documented nowhere else that I know. For
the period 1812-1847 alone, the population described on them numbers
over 3,000! Thanks in advance!

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ Researching Gleiwitz & surroundings

MODERATOR NOTE: Please be aware that the above is a personal opinion and
does not reflect GerSig or JewishGen opinion or policy.

GerSig members who use LDS microfilms (or other sources) and who learn from
experience how such sources might be more efficiently used by others are
always welcome to send RESEARCH TIPS for posting to this or other SIG
discussion groups. This includes citations of Internet sites which we urge
you to enhance with user tips or navigation suggestions based on user
experience.

We have posted user tips for various LDS microfilms here in the past which
can be located by searching our archives for the name(s) of the subject
towns plus the syntax "AND LDS OR Microfilm". MOD1


German SIG #Germany Contents of LDS Films #germany

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

SEE MOD NOTE BELOW
This is a renewed request to share information:

What have you found on LDS microfilms that isn't properly described in
their catalog?

As you may recall, I recently confirmed my late father's discovery that
films 873,596-8, which are catalogued only under "Baranowitz", actually
contain almost all the birth, marriage, death, and family-register
records for the entire Kreis Rybnik in Oberschlesien (Upper Silesia) for
1812-1870. The Kreis (established as such in 1818) included three
cities: Sohrau (Zory) , Loslau (Wodislaw Slaska), and Rybnik; plus
numerous small towns and villages, including Jastrzemb, Smollna, Summin,
Belk, and, yes, Baranowitz.

My father alerted the Family History Library to the situation in 1987,
but the catalog has not been updated!
(Film 864,953, which is listed as having the records of Neu-Berun in
Kreis Pless for 1847-70, also covers some neighboring towns, such as
Imielin. I'm not as familiar with that area, but my father's notes
indicate that "Neu-Berun" is an inadequate description.)

Some of you may have made use of the downloadable list of Polish LDS
microfilms on the JRI-P site. Useful as it is, this listing is incomplete
and inconsistent, at least for Silesia. I have already found the following
omissions:
Zuelz (Biala Prudnicka): films 1,271,493 and 1,190,985, which contain
the bulk of the magistrate's records, are not listed.
Glogau (Glogow): listing for film 1,184,418 does not mention Glogau
1938 Census:
--films 1,742,505 and 1,742,507, which contain records for towns in
Middle Silesia other than Breslau, are not listed.
--films 1,742,472-3, listed as "Opole" under "town", cover the entire
Bezirk Oppeln, i.e., Upper Silesia (except for selected cities).
--films 1,742,424-5, listed as "Legnica", cover all of Lower Silesia,
i.e., Bezirk Liegnitz.

If you use LDS films: please take a few minutes to examine the entire
contents of each film and confirm that the catalog has it right! For
two decades, the Rybnik films were effectively lost to all but a few
researchers. They contain information about at least 9 of my own
ancestors, some of whom are documented nowhere else that I know. For
the period 1812-1847 alone, the population described on them numbers
over 3,000! Thanks in advance!

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ Researching Gleiwitz & surroundings

MODERATOR NOTE: Please be aware that the above is a personal opinion and
does not reflect GerSig or JewishGen opinion or policy.

GerSig members who use LDS microfilms (or other sources) and who learn from
experience how such sources might be more efficiently used by others are
always welcome to send RESEARCH TIPS for posting to this or other SIG
discussion groups. This includes citations of Internet sites which we urge
you to enhance with user tips or navigation suggestions based on user
experience.

We have posted user tips for various LDS microfilms here in the past which
can be located by searching our archives for the name(s) of the subject
towns plus the syntax "AND LDS OR Microfilm". MOD1


Re: Descendants of Menachem Mendel MARGALIOT #rabbinic

Ganot <o_ganot@...>
 

On 2003.01.05, Larry Weinberg <larryw@...> wrote:

I am trying to find the son of Menachem Mendel MARGALIOT
(MARGALIOTH) who married the daughter of Hirsch of Krotoschin...
At the Family Genealogies, Part 2 of the RavSIG Bibliographical
database

http://www.jewishgen.org/rabbinic/infofiles/biblio6.htm

there is an entry for the book Elef Margaliot. by Wunder, Meir
(Jerusalem: ha-Makhon le-hantsahat Yahadut Galitsyah, 1993, Hebrew)

According to the description given there, this book traces the
ancestry of one of the rabbis of the MARGOLIS family. Extensive
biographical information, sources and genealogical charts present an
authoritative summary of many ancient rabbinical families... This
book contains biographies and genealogical charts of more than a
thousand ancestors, a lineage of Jewish leaders >from ancient times
until Rav Israel Arie MARGULIES, Admur of Premishlan in London. The
book also includes, as an annex, a copy of the book Maalot
Hayukhsin, by Rabbi Ephraim Zalman Margaliot, originally published
in Lemberg (Lviv) in 1900.

I hope that Larry will be able to find answers to his questions in
this book.

Ilan Ganot,
Holon, Israel


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Descendants of Menachem Mendel MARGALIOT #rabbinic

Ganot <o_ganot@...>
 

On 2003.01.05, Larry Weinberg <larryw@...> wrote:

I am trying to find the son of Menachem Mendel MARGALIOT
(MARGALIOTH) who married the daughter of Hirsch of Krotoschin...
At the Family Genealogies, Part 2 of the RavSIG Bibliographical
database

http://www.jewishgen.org/rabbinic/infofiles/biblio6.htm

there is an entry for the book Elef Margaliot. by Wunder, Meir
(Jerusalem: ha-Makhon le-hantsahat Yahadut Galitsyah, 1993, Hebrew)

According to the description given there, this book traces the
ancestry of one of the rabbis of the MARGOLIS family. Extensive
biographical information, sources and genealogical charts present an
authoritative summary of many ancient rabbinical families... This
book contains biographies and genealogical charts of more than a
thousand ancestors, a lineage of Jewish leaders >from ancient times
until Rav Israel Arie MARGULIES, Admur of Premishlan in London. The
book also includes, as an annex, a copy of the book Maalot
Hayukhsin, by Rabbi Ephraim Zalman Margaliot, originally published
in Lemberg (Lviv) in 1900.

I hope that Larry will be able to find answers to his questions in
this book.

Ilan Ganot,
Holon, Israel


"ne'um" before signature of witness #rabbinic

MBernet@...
 

Ne'um (nun-alef-vav-memsofit) is usually a noun meaning speech. In
the Tanach, it often relates to G_d's words to a prophet. On the
ketuba it precedes the signatures of the wirnesses--who neither
wrote the ketuba nor read it aloud.

Can anyone tell me about any other instance in which ne'um and
testimony/witness are connected? Can anyone explain the connection?
There's a theory, to which Rashi occasionally refers, that the basic
shoresh (root verb) had just two letters; in that case, could the
alef-mem be a two letter shoresh for both no'em and amen? Should
ne'um really be translated as"bears witness to" in the Prophets (and
in a speech in the Knesset or on radio) and in the witnesses'
signatures?

Michael Bernet
New York


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic "ne'um" before signature of witness #rabbinic

MBernet@...
 

Ne'um (nun-alef-vav-memsofit) is usually a noun meaning speech. In
the Tanach, it often relates to G_d's words to a prophet. On the
ketuba it precedes the signatures of the wirnesses--who neither
wrote the ketuba nor read it aloud.

Can anyone tell me about any other instance in which ne'um and
testimony/witness are connected? Can anyone explain the connection?
There's a theory, to which Rashi occasionally refers, that the basic
shoresh (root verb) had just two letters; in that case, could the
alef-mem be a two letter shoresh for both no'em and amen? Should
ne'um really be translated as"bears witness to" in the Prophets (and
in a speech in the Knesset or on radio) and in the witnesses'
signatures?

Michael Bernet
New York


Re: Photo Studios #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article <3E18B24C.CFA9BB81@...>,
H. R. Wolf <hrwolf@...> wrote:

Does any one know of a photo studio between 1850 and 1885
called the Non-pariel Art Studio? My great grandparents had
pictures taken there. I have no idea what city it could have
been in. Thanks for any information.
A Google search for "Nonpareil Art Studio" turns up (besides another
message >from you) a web page referring to another picture taken by this
studio. The page is http://my.erinet.com/~fordnag/SurnamesM:

| * MILCH, Kate; (mrs. Philip Milch); taken by The Nonpareil Art Studio,
| city unk.; found Florence, Ky. 21 Nov 1998

Unfortunately they don't know where the studio was either. But maybe if
you get in touch with Ford and Nagle, some clues might emerge >from
comparing their photo with yours.

Robert Israel
israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Photo Studios #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article <3E18B24C.CFA9BB81@...>,
H. R. Wolf <hrwolf@...> wrote:

Does any one know of a photo studio between 1850 and 1885
called the Non-pariel Art Studio? My great grandparents had
pictures taken there. I have no idea what city it could have
been in. Thanks for any information.
A Google search for "Nonpareil Art Studio" turns up (besides another
message >from you) a web page referring to another picture taken by this
studio. The page is http://my.erinet.com/~fordnag/SurnamesM:

| * MILCH, Kate; (mrs. Philip Milch); taken by The Nonpareil Art Studio,
| city unk.; found Florence, Ky. 21 Nov 1998

Unfortunately they don't know where the studio was either. But maybe if
you get in touch with Ford and Nagle, some clues might emerge >from
comparing their photo with yours.

Robert Israel
israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2


Help Sought for Virginia USA: JACOBSON #germany

RCSonne@...
 

I am beginning a new round of research which is centered in the Virginia areas
of Portsmouth, Norfolk, Newport News and Virginia Beach. I am looking for
guidance, i.e., names of conservative synagogues and cemeteries, researchers,
and even completed tree work which might include twigs for the major surname
under search: JACOBSON.

Please do not suggest avenues other than GerSig and please respond personally
to
Charles Sonneborn Bethesda MD <rcsonne@...>


German SIG #Germany Help Sought for Virginia USA: JACOBSON #germany

RCSonne@...
 

I am beginning a new round of research which is centered in the Virginia areas
of Portsmouth, Norfolk, Newport News and Virginia Beach. I am looking for
guidance, i.e., names of conservative synagogues and cemeteries, researchers,
and even completed tree work which might include twigs for the major surname
under search: JACOBSON.

Please do not suggest avenues other than GerSig and please respond personally
to
Charles Sonneborn Bethesda MD <rcsonne@...>


Seek GOLDSCHMIDT previously ? #germany

Reuven Mohr <mor@...>
 

Hello Baden specialists,

recently I received the death certificate of my ggggrandfather Eduard
GOLDSCHMIDT (also GOLDSCHMIT(T)), who died at Frankenthal/Palatinate in
1847. It says that he was born at "Altdorf im Breisgau", 1764 according to
this document, or 1768, according to the birth certificate of his daughter
Henriette. If the Altdorf near Ettenheim-Schmieheim was meant, which is not
exactly part of the "Breisgau" but rather "Ortenau", the family - Eduards
parents Lazarus and Henriette had also moved to Frankenthal/Palatinate -
must have used a different family name before working as gold and
silversmiths in the Palatinate area. There was no GOLDSCHMIDT-family at
Altdorf/Baden, near Ettenheim.
Another Altdorf is in Emmendingen, but it has no documented Jewish
history. [See MOD NOTE below]
How could I possibly link my Frankenthal GOLDSCHMIDTS to a 18th century
Altdorf family? Regards,

Reuven Mohr, Israel mailto:mor@...

researching:
WEIL, GOLDSCHMIDT, HIRSCH - Frankenthal/Palatinate
WEIL, LAUPHEIMER - Pforzheim/Baden ROSENTHAL, KARPE - Frankfurt/Main
LAUPHEIMER, HOFHEIMER, HIRSCHFELD, GERSTLE - Laupheim/Wuerttemberg and USA
WEIL, COSHNEAR - New Haven, CT FRANK, MORSE - Philadelphia PA

MOD NOTE: The JewishGen Shtetl Seeker (town finder) shows 13 towns with
the name (exact spelling) "Altdorf". Ancestors of mine >from Altdorf (below)
married to Emmendingen which is very near, but does not encompass Altdorf.
4816 0749 Altdorf (Baden) 4817 0752 Schmieheim (Baden)
4808 0751 Emmendingen (Baden) 4800 0751 Freiburg (Baden)

All GerSig members would do well to check the recently enhanced
Shtetl Seeker tool at: <http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/>
Revisions to the Shtetl Seeker make it much easier to take advantage
of the "radius" function which can be very helpful. To do so, start with
the map coordinates of your target town (such as those listed above)
and request a list of all towns within a given distance of same. MOD1


German SIG #Germany Seek GOLDSCHMIDT previously ? #germany

Reuven Mohr <mor@...>
 

Hello Baden specialists,

recently I received the death certificate of my ggggrandfather Eduard
GOLDSCHMIDT (also GOLDSCHMIT(T)), who died at Frankenthal/Palatinate in
1847. It says that he was born at "Altdorf im Breisgau", 1764 according to
this document, or 1768, according to the birth certificate of his daughter
Henriette. If the Altdorf near Ettenheim-Schmieheim was meant, which is not
exactly part of the "Breisgau" but rather "Ortenau", the family - Eduards
parents Lazarus and Henriette had also moved to Frankenthal/Palatinate -
must have used a different family name before working as gold and
silversmiths in the Palatinate area. There was no GOLDSCHMIDT-family at
Altdorf/Baden, near Ettenheim.
Another Altdorf is in Emmendingen, but it has no documented Jewish
history. [See MOD NOTE below]
How could I possibly link my Frankenthal GOLDSCHMIDTS to a 18th century
Altdorf family? Regards,

Reuven Mohr, Israel mailto:mor@...

researching:
WEIL, GOLDSCHMIDT, HIRSCH - Frankenthal/Palatinate
WEIL, LAUPHEIMER - Pforzheim/Baden ROSENTHAL, KARPE - Frankfurt/Main
LAUPHEIMER, HOFHEIMER, HIRSCHFELD, GERSTLE - Laupheim/Wuerttemberg and USA
WEIL, COSHNEAR - New Haven, CT FRANK, MORSE - Philadelphia PA

MOD NOTE: The JewishGen Shtetl Seeker (town finder) shows 13 towns with
the name (exact spelling) "Altdorf". Ancestors of mine >from Altdorf (below)
married to Emmendingen which is very near, but does not encompass Altdorf.
4816 0749 Altdorf (Baden) 4817 0752 Schmieheim (Baden)
4808 0751 Emmendingen (Baden) 4800 0751 Freiburg (Baden)

All GerSig members would do well to check the recently enhanced
Shtetl Seeker tool at: <http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/>
Revisions to the Shtetl Seeker make it much easier to take advantage
of the "radius" function which can be very helpful. To do so, start with
the map coordinates of your target town (such as those listed above)
and request a list of all towns within a given distance of same. MOD1


Re: ukraine digest: January 05, 2003 Cyrillic/Russian #ukraine

PeterM3369@...
 

In re the viewmate doc you posted, Russian IS written in the Cyrillic script. This document features both printed and cursive Cyrillic. It references a person surnamed Levitan on the third line of text, second word, where there are two words which start with little curly upside down U's, which are the cursive capital L's. It is a L. Levitan.
Peter Myers


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: ukraine digest: January 05, 2003 Cyrillic/Russian #ukraine

PeterM3369@...
 

In re the viewmate doc you posted, Russian IS written in the Cyrillic script. This document features both printed and cursive Cyrillic. It references a person surnamed Levitan on the third line of text, second word, where there are two words which start with little curly upside down U's, which are the cursive capital L's. It is a L. Levitan.
Peter Myers


Message from Getz re paypal #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

Mike Getz our Treasurer has asked me to post this message.
mgetz@...

I have received a few paypal membership payments in the last few weeks >from
the EU and UK without difficulty.It facilitates the use of credit cards and
overcomes constraints in the US banking which insist on checks drawn on US
banks..

Regarding currencies that may be remitted and any other questions about
Paypal please go to the URL-

http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_help-ext&eloc=200&loc=199&unique_id=03969&source_page=_home

Mike Getz
Treasurer Latvia SIG


Latvia SIG #Latvia Message from Getz re paypal #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

Mike Getz our Treasurer has asked me to post this message.
mgetz@...

I have received a few paypal membership payments in the last few weeks >from
the EU and UK without difficulty.It facilitates the use of credit cards and
overcomes constraints in the US banking which insist on checks drawn on US
banks..

Regarding currencies that may be remitted and any other questions about
Paypal please go to the URL-

http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_help-ext&eloc=200&loc=199&unique_id=03969&source_page=_home

Mike Getz
Treasurer Latvia SIG


Yiddish Theatrical Alliance cemetery plot - Mt. Hebron #general

BarbKrauss@...
 

Dear fellow Genners,
Thanks to all who have written me to tell me the location of this
cemetery (which is not in Brooklyn as I had guessed in my original message).
It's in Queens.
Barbara Krauss - Portage, MI, USA

Searching for AXILROD, BOBINSKY, IFCHER, MICHALOWITZ, KURITZKI, SAPIORA,
WEINSTEIN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yiddish Theatrical Alliance cemetery plot - Mt. Hebron #general

BarbKrauss@...
 

Dear fellow Genners,
Thanks to all who have written me to tell me the location of this
cemetery (which is not in Brooklyn as I had guessed in my original message).
It's in Queens.
Barbara Krauss - Portage, MI, USA

Searching for AXILROD, BOBINSKY, IFCHER, MICHALOWITZ, KURITZKI, SAPIORA,
WEINSTEIN