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Moscow, Minsk, Kiev,St.Petersburg and more phones on-line #ukraine

Carlos Glikson
 

The following names/phone and other databases are accessible on-line.
Cyrillic searches are made without a Cyrillic keyboard.

Minsk, private & business, 544281 records
Minsk, private, autumn 1998, 488124
Moscow private, numbers 1... - 3..., 1532217
Moscow private, numbers 4... - ..., 1012156
Moscow w/o surnames, cardphones, 310787
Moscow streets codes, 4356
Moscow region entities, 63825
Saint-Petersburg, 1367914
Organizations of Moscow, 545673
Kiev private, 586352
Kazan private, 114334
Kemerovo private, 71061
Enterprises of FSU, 50308
Belarus entities, 48409
UFA private, 125891
Agricultural enterprises of Belarus, 4816
Agricultural enterprises of Ukrania, 11350
Agricultural enterprises of Russia, 28145

The link is
http://rit.minsk.by/cgi-bin/mphones.pl

A click on "Go To Search" takes you down the page to
http://rit.minsk.by/cgi-bin/mphones.pl#QUERY

The original language of the databases is Russian - with cyrillic letters.

If you type the query in your Latin characters keyboard, "if there is no
cyrillic letters or special symbols in search pattern" it is automatically
transcribed into Cyrillic.

A dot(.) in the search pattern corresponds to any data symbol. Output is in
Latin characters. You can see the name you input in Latin characters
transliterated in Cyrillic - at least with my settings, which enable the
display of Cyrillic characters.

The page says that "the transcription is not single-meaning. Therefore, the
best way is to use cyrillic letters.". but, anyway, it worked in my first
try with Latin characters, doing a simple automatic transliteration. Where
transcription options may exist, cases may require "copying and pasting"
Cyrillic characters.

The page includes a string with the Cyrillic alphabet so you can also
choose to copy and paste - character after character - the Cyrillic
spelling of the name you are searching. A table with Latin and Cyrillic
characters helps you select the letters.

Please note I have not used the Cyrillic copy and paste feature, am posting
this before using it, and do not know how to solve problems in displaying
Cyrillic in different browsers and operating systems. The page explains how
to do the searches.

After a first find of a phone in Moscow using my last name and Latin
characters keyboard I just thought I should share the website with the
Group.

Good luck with your searches.

Carlos GLIKSON
Buenos Aires, Argentina
e-Mail cglikson@ciudad.com.ar

Searching for

GLIKSON, GLICKSON, GLUCKSOHN, GLUECKSOHN: Marijampole, Suwalki, Augustow,
Sejny,Sopotkin,Koenigsberg. POKROISKY, POKROJSKI, POKROY: Suwalki, Seirijai.
Lomza. ALPEROVICH, ALPEROWICZ: Kremenchug, Vilnius. HOLLANDERSKY,
HOLLENDERSKI, HOLLANDER: Suwalki, Seirijai, Lomza. TARNOPOLSKY, TARNOPOL:
Kremenchug, Kharkov. FELCHINSKY: Kremenchug, Vilnius, Felschtin?. KARP:
Grodno. SMELIENSKY(?),KRASNAPOLSKY(?), BLUMIGDAL (?), GOLUMBIEWSKY,
GOLOMB(?)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Moscow, Minsk, Kiev,St.Petersburg and more phones on-line #ukraine

Carlos Glikson
 

The following names/phone and other databases are accessible on-line.
Cyrillic searches are made without a Cyrillic keyboard.

Minsk, private & business, 544281 records
Minsk, private, autumn 1998, 488124
Moscow private, numbers 1... - 3..., 1532217
Moscow private, numbers 4... - ..., 1012156
Moscow w/o surnames, cardphones, 310787
Moscow streets codes, 4356
Moscow region entities, 63825
Saint-Petersburg, 1367914
Organizations of Moscow, 545673
Kiev private, 586352
Kazan private, 114334
Kemerovo private, 71061
Enterprises of FSU, 50308
Belarus entities, 48409
UFA private, 125891
Agricultural enterprises of Belarus, 4816
Agricultural enterprises of Ukrania, 11350
Agricultural enterprises of Russia, 28145

The link is
http://rit.minsk.by/cgi-bin/mphones.pl

A click on "Go To Search" takes you down the page to
http://rit.minsk.by/cgi-bin/mphones.pl#QUERY

The original language of the databases is Russian - with cyrillic letters.

If you type the query in your Latin characters keyboard, "if there is no
cyrillic letters or special symbols in search pattern" it is automatically
transcribed into Cyrillic.

A dot(.) in the search pattern corresponds to any data symbol. Output is in
Latin characters. You can see the name you input in Latin characters
transliterated in Cyrillic - at least with my settings, which enable the
display of Cyrillic characters.

The page says that "the transcription is not single-meaning. Therefore, the
best way is to use cyrillic letters.". but, anyway, it worked in my first
try with Latin characters, doing a simple automatic transliteration. Where
transcription options may exist, cases may require "copying and pasting"
Cyrillic characters.

The page includes a string with the Cyrillic alphabet so you can also
choose to copy and paste - character after character - the Cyrillic
spelling of the name you are searching. A table with Latin and Cyrillic
characters helps you select the letters.

Please note I have not used the Cyrillic copy and paste feature, am posting
this before using it, and do not know how to solve problems in displaying
Cyrillic in different browsers and operating systems. The page explains how
to do the searches.

After a first find of a phone in Moscow using my last name and Latin
characters keyboard I just thought I should share the website with the
Group.

Good luck with your searches.

Carlos GLIKSON
Buenos Aires, Argentina
e-Mail cglikson@ciudad.com.ar

Searching for

GLIKSON, GLICKSON, GLUCKSOHN, GLUECKSOHN: Marijampole, Suwalki, Augustow,
Sejny,Sopotkin,Koenigsberg. POKROISKY, POKROJSKI, POKROY: Suwalki, Seirijai.
Lomza. ALPEROVICH, ALPEROWICZ: Kremenchug, Vilnius. HOLLANDERSKY,
HOLLENDERSKI, HOLLANDER: Suwalki, Seirijai, Lomza. TARNOPOLSKY, TARNOPOL:
Kremenchug, Kharkov. FELCHINSKY: Kremenchug, Vilnius, Felschtin?. KARP:
Grodno. SMELIENSKY(?),KRASNAPOLSKY(?), BLUMIGDAL (?), GOLUMBIEWSKY,
GOLOMB(?)


Istanbul Searching #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Here is some information that I presented at my lecture at the IAJGS
conference last week ("Jewish Genealogy Resources in Istanbul")...

Documents I found in Istanbul have allowed me to extend my family tree back
to the early 1800s:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0730.Ka-Tree.gif

In 1906, Istanbul began a very complete and continuously updated census.
All births, deaths, and marriages have been recorded in these files since
1906 (up until today). "Nufus" offices in Istanbul have these complete
records--both in handwritten books and in a computer database.

Here, for example, is the nufus office in the Uskudar region (neighborhood)
of Istanbul:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0730.Nuf-Usk.jpg

The results of a computer search can be printed in two different formats:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0730.Nuf-Fam.jpg
or
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0730.Nuf-List.jpg

The key, first, is to figure out (or just guess!) which nufus office to
visit. If you are lucky, one of your relatives will have a nufus document,
which will have all the needed details (office/book/page, etc.), as in this
example:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0730.Nuf-EK.jpg

Finally, give this web site a try. I don't know exactly how it might help,
because I did not need it for my searching:

http://tckimlik.nvi.gov.tr/

Dan Kazez
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
KAZEZ-KAZES, ALHADEF-ELHADEF, FRESKO-FRESCO, HABIB, DEVIDAS-DE VIDAS
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/Istanbul/Gen.html
http://www.asfonline.org/portal/genealogy/turkey/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Istanbul Searching #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Here is some information that I presented at my lecture at the IAJGS
conference last week ("Jewish Genealogy Resources in Istanbul")...

Documents I found in Istanbul have allowed me to extend my family tree back
to the early 1800s:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0730.Ka-Tree.gif

In 1906, Istanbul began a very complete and continuously updated census.
All births, deaths, and marriages have been recorded in these files since
1906 (up until today). "Nufus" offices in Istanbul have these complete
records--both in handwritten books and in a computer database.

Here, for example, is the nufus office in the Uskudar region (neighborhood)
of Istanbul:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0730.Nuf-Usk.jpg

The results of a computer search can be printed in two different formats:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0730.Nuf-Fam.jpg
or
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0730.Nuf-List.jpg

The key, first, is to figure out (or just guess!) which nufus office to
visit. If you are lucky, one of your relatives will have a nufus document,
which will have all the needed details (office/book/page, etc.), as in this
example:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0730.Nuf-EK.jpg

Finally, give this web site a try. I don't know exactly how it might help,
because I did not need it for my searching:

http://tckimlik.nvi.gov.tr/

Dan Kazez
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
KAZEZ-KAZES, ALHADEF-ELHADEF, FRESKO-FRESCO, HABIB, DEVIDAS-DE VIDAS
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/Istanbul/Gen.html
http://www.asfonline.org/portal/genealogy/turkey/


Writing to Local Municipalities or Mayors for Records #ukraine

Gary Gershfield <gmgkpc@...>
 

I was wondering if anyone has ever had success in writing to local
municipalities or mayors to request family records.
Since I am researching my ancestors >from
Druzhkopol,I would need to write to the Horochow district.
I would probably send a letter to the
Ukrainian Consulate in New York City.
Your input would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
Gary Gershfield
Forest Hills,NY
Researching GERSHFELD(GERSZFELD)>from Druzhkopol(Presently called Zhuravniki)


NUDELMAN #ukraine

Marcus Byruck <byruckfam@...>
 

The 1901 UK on-line census has MANY entries for Needleman (likely to be an
anglo version of NUDELMAN). Also, a few NUDELMAN entries. I am exploring
whether my great grandmother ETYA-PASSA's maiden name was NUDELMAN back in
ZHVANETS or KAMINETS-PODOLSK area (her husband = CHAIM-HERSZ TOYBER?TAUBER).

Marcus Byruck


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Writing to Local Municipalities or Mayors for Records #ukraine

Gary Gershfield <gmgkpc@...>
 

I was wondering if anyone has ever had success in writing to local
municipalities or mayors to request family records.
Since I am researching my ancestors >from
Druzhkopol,I would need to write to the Horochow district.
I would probably send a letter to the
Ukrainian Consulate in New York City.
Your input would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
Gary Gershfield
Forest Hills,NY
Researching GERSHFELD(GERSZFELD)>from Druzhkopol(Presently called Zhuravniki)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine NUDELMAN #ukraine

Marcus Byruck <byruckfam@...>
 

The 1901 UK on-line census has MANY entries for Needleman (likely to be an
anglo version of NUDELMAN). Also, a few NUDELMAN entries. I am exploring
whether my great grandmother ETYA-PASSA's maiden name was NUDELMAN back in
ZHVANETS or KAMINETS-PODOLSK area (her husband = CHAIM-HERSZ TOYBER?TAUBER).

Marcus Byruck


Re: Was there a port at Rochester, NY #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article <71.335a2a66.2c594613@aol.com>, <MBernet@aol.com> wrote:

In a message dated 7/30/2003 11:42:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Rammsm@aol.com writes:
my . . . ancesters . . . settled in Rochester in 1905 but have been
unable to find them in the Ellis Island site. Was there a port at
Rochester that they could have entered?
Well, Rochester is a port on Lake Ontario and I assume it could be
reached via the St Lawrence River in the early years of the 20th century.
I doubt, though, that any passenger ship or immigrant ship would have had
Rochester as a destination; a train ride >from NYC would have been much
quicker and much cheaper than the St Lawrence route. There is a remote
possibility that they set sail on a freighter Again, your relatived may
have reached Rochester >from Canada but I doubt they would have done so on
a ferry (if there was one) to Rochester port.
Just to clear up some possible confusion: before the opening of the St.
Lawrence Seaway in the late 1950's, large ocean-going ships could not pass
up the St. Lawrence to the Great Lakes. There were ships that crossed
Lake Ontario >from Toronto and Kingston to Rochester: see e.g.
< http://www.hhpl.on.ca/GreatLakes/scripts/page.asp?PageID=233>.

The other likely way of getting there >from Canada would be by rail, in
which case they might have entered the US at Niagara Falls or Buffalo.

Robert Israel
israel@math.ubc.ca
http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel
Vancouver, BC, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Was there a port at Rochester, NY #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article <71.335a2a66.2c594613@aol.com>, <MBernet@aol.com> wrote:

In a message dated 7/30/2003 11:42:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Rammsm@aol.com writes:
my . . . ancesters . . . settled in Rochester in 1905 but have been
unable to find them in the Ellis Island site. Was there a port at
Rochester that they could have entered?
Well, Rochester is a port on Lake Ontario and I assume it could be
reached via the St Lawrence River in the early years of the 20th century.
I doubt, though, that any passenger ship or immigrant ship would have had
Rochester as a destination; a train ride >from NYC would have been much
quicker and much cheaper than the St Lawrence route. There is a remote
possibility that they set sail on a freighter Again, your relatived may
have reached Rochester >from Canada but I doubt they would have done so on
a ferry (if there was one) to Rochester port.
Just to clear up some possible confusion: before the opening of the St.
Lawrence Seaway in the late 1950's, large ocean-going ships could not pass
up the St. Lawrence to the Great Lakes. There were ships that crossed
Lake Ontario >from Toronto and Kingston to Rochester: see e.g.
< http://www.hhpl.on.ca/GreatLakes/scripts/page.asp?PageID=233>.

The other likely way of getting there >from Canada would be by rail, in
which case they might have entered the US at Niagara Falls or Buffalo.

Robert Israel
israel@math.ubc.ca
http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel
Vancouver, BC, Canada


Re: Bizarre Zip Code in SSDI #general

Stephen G. Esrati <stevsta@...>
 

No. You should contace post office. All ZIP codes starting with 330 were
changed some years back to five-digit ZIP codes. But if you go to
www.usps.com and punch in Mr. Schwartz's address. you will get a correct
ZIP code.

David Simon Bendory wrote:

I found a relative in SSDI, but the zip code is rather odd. If you
lookup Abe SCHWARTZ (135-22-0833), his zip code at death is 33003 -- which
is not a legitimate zip code.

Has anyone experienced this before? Will contacting the SSA get me
corrected information?

The record can be viewed here (you may have to cut and paste as this is
a multi-line url):

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ssdi/individual_record.asp?
recid=135220833

Thanks in advance!

David Simon Bendory
Livingston, NJ
davidNOSPAM@bendory.com <-- Please remove "Nospam" >from my address to
e-mail me


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Bizarre Zip Code in SSDI #general

Stephen G. Esrati <stevsta@...>
 

No. You should contace post office. All ZIP codes starting with 330 were
changed some years back to five-digit ZIP codes. But if you go to
www.usps.com and punch in Mr. Schwartz's address. you will get a correct
ZIP code.

David Simon Bendory wrote:

I found a relative in SSDI, but the zip code is rather odd. If you
lookup Abe SCHWARTZ (135-22-0833), his zip code at death is 33003 -- which
is not a legitimate zip code.

Has anyone experienced this before? Will contacting the SSA get me
corrected information?

The record can be viewed here (you may have to cut and paste as this is
a multi-line url):

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ssdi/individual_record.asp?
recid=135220833

Thanks in advance!

David Simon Bendory
Livingston, NJ
davidNOSPAM@bendory.com <-- Please remove "Nospam" >from my address to
e-mail me


Moscow, Minsk, Kiev, St.Petersburg and more phones on-line #general

Carlos Glikson
 

The following names/phone and other databases are accessible on-line.
Cyrillic searches are made without a Cyrillic keyboard.

Minsk, private & business, 544281 records
Minsk, private, autumn 1998, 488124
Moscow private, numbers 1... - 3..., 1532217
Moscow private, numbers 4... - ..., 1012156
Moscow w/o surnames, cardphones, 310787
Moscow streets codes, 4356
Moscow region entities, 63825
Saint-Petersburg, 1367914
Organizations of Moscow, 545673
Kiev private, 586352
Kazan private, 114334
Kemerovo private, 71061
Enterprises of FSU, 50308
Belarus entities, 48409
UFA private, 125891
Agricultural enterprises of Belarus, 4816
Agricultural enterprises of Ukrania, 11350
Agricultural enterprises of Russia, 28145

The link is
http://rit.minsk.by/cgi-bin/mphones.pl

A click on "Go To Search" takes you down the page to
http://rit.minsk.by/cgi-bin/mphones.pl#QUERY

The original language of the databases is Russian - with cyrillic letters.

If you type the query in your Latin characters keyboard, "if there is no
cyrillic letters or special symbols in search pattern" it is automatically
transcribed into Cyrillic.

A dot(.) in the search pattern corresponds to any data symbol. Output is in
Latin characters. You can see the name you input in Latin characters
transliterated in Cyrillic - at least with my settings, which enable the
display of Cyrillic characters.

The page says that "the transcription is not single-meaning. Therefore, the
best way is to use cyrillic letters.". but, anyway, it worked in my first
try with Latin characters, doing a simple automatic transliteration. Where
transcription options may exist, cases may require "copying and pasting"
Cyrillic characters.

The page includes a string with the Cyrillic alphabet so you can also
choose to copy and paste - character after character - the Cyrillic
spelling of the name you are searching. A table with Latin and Cyrillic
characters helps you select the letters.

Please note I have not used the Cyrillic copy and paste feature, am posting
this before using it, and do not know how to solve problems in displaying
Cyrillic in different browsers and operating systems. The page explains how
to do the searches.

After a first find of a phone in Moscow using my last name and Latin
characters keyboard I just thought I should share the website with the
Group.

Good luck with your searches.

Carlos GLIKSON
Buenos Aires, Argentina
e-Mail cglikson@ciudad.com.ar

Searching for

GLIKSON, GLICKSON, GLUCKSOHN, GLUECKSOHN: Marijampole, Suwalki, Augustow,
Sejny,Sopotkin,Koenigsberg. POKROISKY, POKROJSKI, POKROY:Suwalki, Seirijai.
Lomza. ALPEROVICH, ALPEROWICZ: Kremenchug, Vilnius. HOLLANDERSKY,
HOLLENDERSKI, HOLLANDER: Suwalki, Seirijai, Lomza. TARNOPOLSKY, TARNOPOL:
Kremenchug, Kharkov. FELCHINSKY: Kremenchug, Vilnius, Felschtin?. KARP:
Grodno. SMELIENSKY(?),KRASNAPOLSKY(?), BLUMIGDAL (?),GOLUMBIEWSKY,GOLOMB(?)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Moscow, Minsk, Kiev, St.Petersburg and more phones on-line #general

Carlos Glikson
 

The following names/phone and other databases are accessible on-line.
Cyrillic searches are made without a Cyrillic keyboard.

Minsk, private & business, 544281 records
Minsk, private, autumn 1998, 488124
Moscow private, numbers 1... - 3..., 1532217
Moscow private, numbers 4... - ..., 1012156
Moscow w/o surnames, cardphones, 310787
Moscow streets codes, 4356
Moscow region entities, 63825
Saint-Petersburg, 1367914
Organizations of Moscow, 545673
Kiev private, 586352
Kazan private, 114334
Kemerovo private, 71061
Enterprises of FSU, 50308
Belarus entities, 48409
UFA private, 125891
Agricultural enterprises of Belarus, 4816
Agricultural enterprises of Ukrania, 11350
Agricultural enterprises of Russia, 28145

The link is
http://rit.minsk.by/cgi-bin/mphones.pl

A click on "Go To Search" takes you down the page to
http://rit.minsk.by/cgi-bin/mphones.pl#QUERY

The original language of the databases is Russian - with cyrillic letters.

If you type the query in your Latin characters keyboard, "if there is no
cyrillic letters or special symbols in search pattern" it is automatically
transcribed into Cyrillic.

A dot(.) in the search pattern corresponds to any data symbol. Output is in
Latin characters. You can see the name you input in Latin characters
transliterated in Cyrillic - at least with my settings, which enable the
display of Cyrillic characters.

The page says that "the transcription is not single-meaning. Therefore, the
best way is to use cyrillic letters.". but, anyway, it worked in my first
try with Latin characters, doing a simple automatic transliteration. Where
transcription options may exist, cases may require "copying and pasting"
Cyrillic characters.

The page includes a string with the Cyrillic alphabet so you can also
choose to copy and paste - character after character - the Cyrillic
spelling of the name you are searching. A table with Latin and Cyrillic
characters helps you select the letters.

Please note I have not used the Cyrillic copy and paste feature, am posting
this before using it, and do not know how to solve problems in displaying
Cyrillic in different browsers and operating systems. The page explains how
to do the searches.

After a first find of a phone in Moscow using my last name and Latin
characters keyboard I just thought I should share the website with the
Group.

Good luck with your searches.

Carlos GLIKSON
Buenos Aires, Argentina
e-Mail cglikson@ciudad.com.ar

Searching for

GLIKSON, GLICKSON, GLUCKSOHN, GLUECKSOHN: Marijampole, Suwalki, Augustow,
Sejny,Sopotkin,Koenigsberg. POKROISKY, POKROJSKI, POKROY:Suwalki, Seirijai.
Lomza. ALPEROVICH, ALPEROWICZ: Kremenchug, Vilnius. HOLLANDERSKY,
HOLLENDERSKI, HOLLANDER: Suwalki, Seirijai, Lomza. TARNOPOLSKY, TARNOPOL:
Kremenchug, Kharkov. FELCHINSKY: Kremenchug, Vilnius, Felschtin?. KARP:
Grodno. SMELIENSKY(?),KRASNAPOLSKY(?), BLUMIGDAL (?),GOLUMBIEWSKY,GOLOMB(?)


Re: Searching "SEGAL" #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 7/30/2003 4:56:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
budman@generation.net writes:

<< I am searching for some SEGAL relatives >>

[virtually] all SEGALs are Levites. This does not apply to Siegel or Sigel.

The SEGAL name is relatively common.

The Segal-Levite connection is unclear. It is commonly said to be an
acronym denoting the Levite status, but that is somewhat implausible.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching "SEGAL" #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 7/30/2003 4:56:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
budman@generation.net writes:

<< I am searching for some SEGAL relatives >>

[virtually] all SEGALs are Levites. This does not apply to Siegel or Sigel.

The SEGAL name is relatively common.

The Segal-Levite connection is unclear. It is commonly said to be an
acronym denoting the Levite status, but that is somewhat implausible.

Michael Bernet, New York


Re: Was there a port at Rochester, NY #general

Peter Zavon <PZavon@...>
 

Actually, Rochester did, and still does, have an international port, or,
rather, it expanded to incorporate the Port of Charlotte. Rochester itself
is a river town, founded at a crossing on the Genesee River several miles
up-stream >from Lake Ontario.

In the early part of the 20th Century there definitely was water access via
the St Lawrence River and Lake Ontario to Rochester. However, immigrants
could also land at Montreal and travel by train to Niagara Falls, Ontario
and enter the US at Niagara Falls, NY. >from Montreal they could also take
the train to New York City, entering the US at Rousse's Point, NY on Lake
Champlain. There was a notable movement of Jews in both directions between
New York City and Rochester (and also the other Western NY cities, I
presume.).

Those entering at Rousse's Point would be in the records of the St. Albans,
VT, Immigration District, rather than the records for "Small Ports on the
Great Lakes", which I think is the film series M1480 mentioned in another
response.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY (suburban Rochester)

PZavon@Rochester.RR.Com

< Rammsm@aol.com> wrote in message news:76B55A0D.2158E2AA.00051855@aol.com


I know that my KROLL ancesters >from Vitebsk settled in Rochester in 1905
but have been unable to find them in the Ellis Island site. Was there a
port at Rochester that they could have entered? If so, how can I get the
records?

Ruth Moltz
Beverly Hills, Michigan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Was there a port at Rochester, NY #general

Peter Zavon <PZavon@...>
 

Actually, Rochester did, and still does, have an international port, or,
rather, it expanded to incorporate the Port of Charlotte. Rochester itself
is a river town, founded at a crossing on the Genesee River several miles
up-stream >from Lake Ontario.

In the early part of the 20th Century there definitely was water access via
the St Lawrence River and Lake Ontario to Rochester. However, immigrants
could also land at Montreal and travel by train to Niagara Falls, Ontario
and enter the US at Niagara Falls, NY. >from Montreal they could also take
the train to New York City, entering the US at Rousse's Point, NY on Lake
Champlain. There was a notable movement of Jews in both directions between
New York City and Rochester (and also the other Western NY cities, I
presume.).

Those entering at Rousse's Point would be in the records of the St. Albans,
VT, Immigration District, rather than the records for "Small Ports on the
Great Lakes", which I think is the film series M1480 mentioned in another
response.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY (suburban Rochester)

PZavon@Rochester.RR.Com

< Rammsm@aol.com> wrote in message news:76B55A0D.2158E2AA.00051855@aol.com


I know that my KROLL ancesters >from Vitebsk settled in Rochester in 1905
but have been unable to find them in the Ellis Island site. Was there a
port at Rochester that they could have entered? If so, how can I get the
records?

Ruth Moltz
Beverly Hills, Michigan


Unknown Birthplaces #general

David Rothman <drothman1@...>
 

The mystery was finally solved with the help of Ted at the Family History
Center in Westwood.That FHC has detailed (military?) maps >from a century
ago.

Hungary Turnau: There was a Tyrnau on map(near Bratislava), and this is
indeed Trnava.

Hungary Turran: There was a Turan shown at a location near Kosice. Name
now Turany.

Dave,
David Rothman
Hawthorne, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Unknown Birthplaces #general

David Rothman <drothman1@...>
 

The mystery was finally solved with the help of Ted at the Family History
Center in Westwood.That FHC has detailed (military?) maps >from a century
ago.

Hungary Turnau: There was a Tyrnau on map(near Bratislava), and this is
indeed Trnava.

Hungary Turran: There was a Turan shown at a location near Kosice. Name
now Turany.

Dave,
David Rothman
Hawthorne, CA