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Royal Post Office, Galicia-employment #general

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I have a document regarding my grandfather, Elias WEIDENFELD,
dated 1902. It is a letter in Polish >from the Royal
Postal Administration in Skala (Zbruch, now Podolskaya-
eastern Galicia), confirming that he was "in the
employ of the local Post Office >from October 01, 1901
to August 06, 1902 and that he carried out his duties
to the fullest satisfaction of the management."

What I am hoping someone can tell me is whether this was
a difficult position to obtain, i.e. did you need
"pull" to get a job like this, or were Jews commonly
given government jobs? I am assuming this was a
civil service position because of the use of the word
"Royal".

Thanks very much,
Denise Azbill
Las Vegas, NV


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Royal Post Office, Galicia-employment #general

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I have a document regarding my grandfather, Elias WEIDENFELD,
dated 1902. It is a letter in Polish >from the Royal
Postal Administration in Skala (Zbruch, now Podolskaya-
eastern Galicia), confirming that he was "in the
employ of the local Post Office >from October 01, 1901
to August 06, 1902 and that he carried out his duties
to the fullest satisfaction of the management."

What I am hoping someone can tell me is whether this was
a difficult position to obtain, i.e. did you need
"pull" to get a job like this, or were Jews commonly
given government jobs? I am assuming this was a
civil service position because of the use of the word
"Royal".

Thanks very much,
Denise Azbill
Las Vegas, NV


Polish on photos from Stryj #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

We have some Pickholz family photos >from Stryj with
Polish notes on the backs which we cannot fully read.

You can see them at
http://www.pikholz.org/Volunteer/Puzzles/Neubauer/Chaya.html

Some of them have been translated into Hebrew by a
Polish speaker, but he was not able to read some
of the writing clearly.

Comments would be appreciated.

Israel Pickholtz

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish on photos from Stryj #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

We have some Pickholz family photos >from Stryj with
Polish notes on the backs which we cannot fully read.

You can see them at
http://www.pikholz.org/Volunteer/Puzzles/Neubauer/Chaya.html

Some of them have been translated into Hebrew by a
Polish speaker, but he was not able to read some
of the writing clearly.

Comments would be appreciated.

Israel Pickholtz

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


Need Help with very puzzling EIDB Discovery #general

Cindy Gallard <cmgcmg@...>
 

Can anyone offer me any insights into the following
very puzzling information I discovered on EIDB?

I found a Jankel Rothblat and a Jankel Rotblatt both of
whom arrived in NY eight days apart on August 25, 1906
aboard the SS Americk and September 2, 1906 aboard the
SS Barcelona. Both were 28 years old,the occupation of
both was listed as joiner, both were married, both were
joining their brother-in-law Jankel Berliner at the same
address and both were >from Pultusk. If they were the
same person and he was not allowed entry the first time
there is no way he could have gone all the way back
to Hamburg and returned in eight days. How likely could
it be that they were twins with the same given name?

Additionally, I found a Jankel Rottblat who arrived
in the US on September 8, 1913 joining his brother-in-law
Jacob Berliner. This is not too strange as his wife
did not join him in America until 1917 and he could
have gone back to visit her, but the ship's manifest
states that he had not previously been in the US.
Any insights?

Cindy Gallard
Denver, CO


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need Help with very puzzling EIDB Discovery #general

Cindy Gallard <cmgcmg@...>
 

Can anyone offer me any insights into the following
very puzzling information I discovered on EIDB?

I found a Jankel Rothblat and a Jankel Rotblatt both of
whom arrived in NY eight days apart on August 25, 1906
aboard the SS Americk and September 2, 1906 aboard the
SS Barcelona. Both were 28 years old,the occupation of
both was listed as joiner, both were married, both were
joining their brother-in-law Jankel Berliner at the same
address and both were >from Pultusk. If they were the
same person and he was not allowed entry the first time
there is no way he could have gone all the way back
to Hamburg and returned in eight days. How likely could
it be that they were twins with the same given name?

Additionally, I found a Jankel Rottblat who arrived
in the US on September 8, 1913 joining his brother-in-law
Jacob Berliner. This is not too strange as his wife
did not join him in America until 1917 and he could
have gone back to visit her, but the ship's manifest
states that he had not previously been in the US.
Any insights?

Cindy Gallard
Denver, CO


Families from Danville, Pennsylvania #usa

Jerry Zeisler <jzeisler@...>
 

I'm searching for families with ties to Danville, Pennsylvania around 1882-
4, especially Jewish families. My great-grandfather, Joseph ZEISLER was a
Rabbi there and I was hoping to find additional information >from that time
frame. Regards,

Jerry Zeisler Leesburg, Virgnia


Early American SIG #USA Families from Danville, Pennsylvania #usa

Jerry Zeisler <jzeisler@...>
 

I'm searching for families with ties to Danville, Pennsylvania around 1882-
4, especially Jewish families. My great-grandfather, Joseph ZEISLER was a
Rabbi there and I was hoping to find additional information >from that time
frame. Regards,

Jerry Zeisler Leesburg, Virgnia


Visit to Massbach and Kleinbardorf, Frankonia #germany

Christof Eberstadt <CPA-Eberstadt@...>
 

Dear Gersiggers,

some days ago, a member of our group >from Canada visited me and we went on
an trip to Massbach north of Kitzingen in Frankonia, where our common
ancestors MASBACH came from. We visited the cemetery, which is well tended
by a gentile woman who gave us the key. Later I gave a sightseeing tour
through the village, pointed out the synagogue, which is now a store, and
most ugly (no similarity to a synagogue is left). We looked for former
Jewish houses and I found one with the remnants of the Mesusa at the
doorpost (Gasthaus Zum Stern"). The name could be, and the outfit of the
house was cleary shaped by a Jewish owner in about 1890 . richly decorated
and a big sandstone framed star as a window above the entrance door.

Later on we drove to Kleinbardorf some 15 km north of Massbach, where our
ancestor had been buried in 1798 in the cemetery up a very steep hill. It's
a most beautiful place, some 4.400 gravestones left (of some 22.000). Very
impressing was the Tahara house, renovated by private engagement some years
ago, and in good condition, the roof plated with sandstone flags.

In the village itself, we stopped at the former synagogue which is now in a
farmers possession and in very bad shape. >from the outside the old
Moorish-style windows can be clearly identified, though now closed by
brickwall. We rang at the door, and a very friendly man (who identified
himself as grandson of the man who bought all that during the 1930's)
showed us around and what is left of it. In the groundfloor, there is
nearly nothing original left, it is used as a workshop... The building has
the original green painted wooden door with ornamental fittings at the
western entrance (a carpenter's and a smith's masterpiece!); original
sandstone window cases (formed in Moorish style like a keyhole), and a
beautiful sandstone framed window formed as a star on top of the wall. The
wooden staircase up to the womens part is original, also the
wood-pannelled, barrell-vaulted ceiling, in orignal greenish painture.

Outside the building in the court there is a sandstone well. At this place
there once had stood the old synagogue before it was torn down in abt 1890
and the new one was erected. It had a mikwa inside, so I assume, the well
is the place of the mikwa.

On the other side of the yard there is the old Judenschule, a nice little
half timbered building in the typical Frankonian style, Mesusa remnants at
the doorpost, and in all details original.

This all was quite touching and I ask myself, why it can not be honoured in
the right manner, and be restaurated and opened publicly as a remembrance
to the former Jewish community?

If anybody is interested in scanned fotos of cemetery, synagogue or
Judenschule, please contact me.

Christof Eberstadt Germany


German SIG #Germany Visit to Massbach and Kleinbardorf, Frankonia #germany

Christof Eberstadt <CPA-Eberstadt@...>
 

Dear Gersiggers,

some days ago, a member of our group >from Canada visited me and we went on
an trip to Massbach north of Kitzingen in Frankonia, where our common
ancestors MASBACH came from. We visited the cemetery, which is well tended
by a gentile woman who gave us the key. Later I gave a sightseeing tour
through the village, pointed out the synagogue, which is now a store, and
most ugly (no similarity to a synagogue is left). We looked for former
Jewish houses and I found one with the remnants of the Mesusa at the
doorpost (Gasthaus Zum Stern"). The name could be, and the outfit of the
house was cleary shaped by a Jewish owner in about 1890 . richly decorated
and a big sandstone framed star as a window above the entrance door.

Later on we drove to Kleinbardorf some 15 km north of Massbach, where our
ancestor had been buried in 1798 in the cemetery up a very steep hill. It's
a most beautiful place, some 4.400 gravestones left (of some 22.000). Very
impressing was the Tahara house, renovated by private engagement some years
ago, and in good condition, the roof plated with sandstone flags.

In the village itself, we stopped at the former synagogue which is now in a
farmers possession and in very bad shape. >from the outside the old
Moorish-style windows can be clearly identified, though now closed by
brickwall. We rang at the door, and a very friendly man (who identified
himself as grandson of the man who bought all that during the 1930's)
showed us around and what is left of it. In the groundfloor, there is
nearly nothing original left, it is used as a workshop... The building has
the original green painted wooden door with ornamental fittings at the
western entrance (a carpenter's and a smith's masterpiece!); original
sandstone window cases (formed in Moorish style like a keyhole), and a
beautiful sandstone framed window formed as a star on top of the wall. The
wooden staircase up to the womens part is original, also the
wood-pannelled, barrell-vaulted ceiling, in orignal greenish painture.

Outside the building in the court there is a sandstone well. At this place
there once had stood the old synagogue before it was torn down in abt 1890
and the new one was erected. It had a mikwa inside, so I assume, the well
is the place of the mikwa.

On the other side of the yard there is the old Judenschule, a nice little
half timbered building in the typical Frankonian style, Mesusa remnants at
the doorpost, and in all details original.

This all was quite touching and I ask myself, why it can not be honoured in
the right manner, and be restaurated and opened publicly as a remembrance
to the former Jewish community?

If anybody is interested in scanned fotos of cemetery, synagogue or
Judenschule, please contact me.

Christof Eberstadt Germany


WOLF and GESSNER from Steinach a.d. Saale #germany

Naomi Teveth <ntevet@...>
 

Dear Friends,
Is anyone on this forum researching families WOLF or GESSNER >from Steinach
a.d. Saale in Lower Franconia ?

I just received a list of the WOLF family in Steinach /Saale.
Myr greatgrandfather Lippmann / Liebmann Wolf(f) was born on 5 Jan 1856 in
Steinach/Saale. His siblings are:

Marianna b. 22 jun 1849
Wolf b. 19 Jul 1850
Gerson 11 Dec 1857
Salomon 10 Sep 1861
Parents: Juedle / Juda Wolf b. 1807 and Russie Besia Sacka b. 1821

Juedle/ Juda had a brother Salomon b. 1802
Salomon had two wives : Hanna GESSNER b. 1809 and Rosina GESSNER b. ?
from both wives he had together 9 children :
Moses, Wolf, Regina, Heffi, Juda, Gerson, Maria Anna (married to Isakk
ENGELHARD >from Riedenberg), Pauline, Samuel.

If anyone on this forum has studied the Jewish Community >from Steinach a.d.
Saale, please let me know.
I am anxious to learn about it as much as possible.
Thank you in advance and best regards,

Naomi Teveth in Tel Aviv ntevet@netvision.net.il


German SIG #Germany WOLF and GESSNER from Steinach a.d. Saale #germany

Naomi Teveth <ntevet@...>
 

Dear Friends,
Is anyone on this forum researching families WOLF or GESSNER >from Steinach
a.d. Saale in Lower Franconia ?

I just received a list of the WOLF family in Steinach /Saale.
Myr greatgrandfather Lippmann / Liebmann Wolf(f) was born on 5 Jan 1856 in
Steinach/Saale. His siblings are:

Marianna b. 22 jun 1849
Wolf b. 19 Jul 1850
Gerson 11 Dec 1857
Salomon 10 Sep 1861
Parents: Juedle / Juda Wolf b. 1807 and Russie Besia Sacka b. 1821

Juedle/ Juda had a brother Salomon b. 1802
Salomon had two wives : Hanna GESSNER b. 1809 and Rosina GESSNER b. ?
from both wives he had together 9 children :
Moses, Wolf, Regina, Heffi, Juda, Gerson, Maria Anna (married to Isakk
ENGELHARD >from Riedenberg), Pauline, Samuel.

If anyone on this forum has studied the Jewish Community >from Steinach a.d.
Saale, please let me know.
I am anxious to learn about it as much as possible.
Thank you in advance and best regards,

Naomi Teveth in Tel Aviv ntevet@netvision.net.il


Salant Rabbis Josef Zundel, Shmuel, Israel Lipkin and Tytuvenai #rabbinic

Deb Katz
 

When I first joined this discussion group I posted a message about
my husband's family descending >from Rabbi Josef Zundel of Salant.
This was based on the fact that our known ancestor Rabbi Yehuda Leib
seemed to be the same person as Zundel's son Yehuda Arie Leib. A
flurry of new information, combined with my revisiting the All
Lithuania Database based on the new info, has now convinced me that
this connection is wrong. However, now I have a huge mystery on my
hands and perhaps one of you has a clue to the solution.

Here is what I know:

Rabbi Yehuda Leib, son of Abram (also a Rabbi I believe), was born
ca 1820s. By 1874 he was using the surname RABINOVICH and was
living with his family in Ariogala. He was the chief (president) of
the rabbinical court in Tzitivian (Tytuvenai) in the late 19th
century. He has associations with Taurage and Vilnius that I know
of. And he has some connection to Salant... Many relatives insist
this was the family's original surname. Some say he was a brother
of Rabbi Shmuel SALANT but I've found no evidence of this. Some say
he was connected to Rabbi Israel Lipkin SALANTER, but I've found no
evidence of this either. Others relatives simply recognized the
surname SALANT as being in the family but couldn't say how. It is
noteworthy that all these relatives are >from far flung branches of
the family and were not in communication with each other -- which is
why I give this SALANT connection some credibility.

Rabbi Yehuda's children include several of the founders of B'nai
Abraham in Philadelphia (Rabbi Abraham Abba RABINOVICH -- a shokhet
who married the daughter of Rabbi Ya'akov ALTSCHULER in Taurage --
Jacob RABINOVICH, Mariasha RABINOVICH -- who married matzah-maker
Yekutiel Dov (Kushel) FRIEDMAN >from Seredzius. I mention all this
detail not for its inherent fascination but in case it rings any
bells for someone.

Any insights are welcome!

Debra Katz Klein
Los Altos CA


View Mate #romania

Sheldon Pivnik <sipivnik@...>
 

I just posted, on View Mate (JGS) a photo I took this past Friday of My G=
GM
grave. I have't seen it in over 60 years. I found it during a trip to N.Y=
.
State this weekend, in the Sons Of Israel Cemetary (Workman's Circle) in
Monsey, N.Y. (Rockland County near the City of Aspring Valley) I would
appreciate it if someone could view the Photo and translate the Hebre on
the Tombstone. It is of Gisella Solomon.

Thanks for the help.

Carole Pivnik, Miami, FL
Sipivnik@compuserve.com
MODERATOR NOTE: You can find it at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/All/viewmateview.asp?key=2756


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Salant Rabbis Josef Zundel, Shmuel, Israel Lipkin and Tytuvenai #rabbinic

Deb Katz
 

When I first joined this discussion group I posted a message about
my husband's family descending >from Rabbi Josef Zundel of Salant.
This was based on the fact that our known ancestor Rabbi Yehuda Leib
seemed to be the same person as Zundel's son Yehuda Arie Leib. A
flurry of new information, combined with my revisiting the All
Lithuania Database based on the new info, has now convinced me that
this connection is wrong. However, now I have a huge mystery on my
hands and perhaps one of you has a clue to the solution.

Here is what I know:

Rabbi Yehuda Leib, son of Abram (also a Rabbi I believe), was born
ca 1820s. By 1874 he was using the surname RABINOVICH and was
living with his family in Ariogala. He was the chief (president) of
the rabbinical court in Tzitivian (Tytuvenai) in the late 19th
century. He has associations with Taurage and Vilnius that I know
of. And he has some connection to Salant... Many relatives insist
this was the family's original surname. Some say he was a brother
of Rabbi Shmuel SALANT but I've found no evidence of this. Some say
he was connected to Rabbi Israel Lipkin SALANTER, but I've found no
evidence of this either. Others relatives simply recognized the
surname SALANT as being in the family but couldn't say how. It is
noteworthy that all these relatives are >from far flung branches of
the family and were not in communication with each other -- which is
why I give this SALANT connection some credibility.

Rabbi Yehuda's children include several of the founders of B'nai
Abraham in Philadelphia (Rabbi Abraham Abba RABINOVICH -- a shokhet
who married the daughter of Rabbi Ya'akov ALTSCHULER in Taurage --
Jacob RABINOVICH, Mariasha RABINOVICH -- who married matzah-maker
Yekutiel Dov (Kushel) FRIEDMAN >from Seredzius. I mention all this
detail not for its inherent fascination but in case it rings any
bells for someone.

Any insights are welcome!

Debra Katz Klein
Los Altos CA


Romania SIG #Romania View Mate #romania

Sheldon Pivnik <sipivnik@...>
 

I just posted, on View Mate (JGS) a photo I took this past Friday of My G=
GM
grave. I have't seen it in over 60 years. I found it during a trip to N.Y=
.
State this weekend, in the Sons Of Israel Cemetary (Workman's Circle) in
Monsey, N.Y. (Rockland County near the City of Aspring Valley) I would
appreciate it if someone could view the Photo and translate the Hebre on
the Tombstone. It is of Gisella Solomon.

Thanks for the help.

Carole Pivnik, Miami, FL
Sipivnik@compuserve.com
MODERATOR NOTE: You can find it at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/All/viewmateview.asp?key=2756


BOF groups #ukraine

SBSeales
 

I am interested in the following BOF groups:

ZELIONY Bershad
ZELIONY Odessa
ROZENTAL Odessa
ROZENBLAT Odessa
RUDZINSKI/RODZINSKI Balta

Sue Seales
sbseales@aol.com


BOF Ukraine #ukraine

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

I have done the shtetl pages for these two places. Litin is in Podolia and
Kalinovka across the border eastward.
I am interested in
GITNER Litin Podolia Ukraine
GITNER Chmellnitsky Podolia Ukraine
REZNIK Kalinovka Podolia (depending on the period) Ukraine

Litin Ukraine http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Litin
Kalinovka Ukraine http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kalinovka

Rose Feldman


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine BOF groups #ukraine

SBSeales
 

I am interested in the following BOF groups:

ZELIONY Bershad
ZELIONY Odessa
ROZENTAL Odessa
ROZENBLAT Odessa
RUDZINSKI/RODZINSKI Balta

Sue Seales
sbseales@aol.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine BOF Ukraine #ukraine

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

I have done the shtetl pages for these two places. Litin is in Podolia and
Kalinovka across the border eastward.
I am interested in
GITNER Litin Podolia Ukraine
GITNER Chmellnitsky Podolia Ukraine
REZNIK Kalinovka Podolia (depending on the period) Ukraine

Litin Ukraine http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Litin
Kalinovka Ukraine http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kalinovka

Rose Feldman