1. main@groups.jewishgen.org
   Date   
Thanks for the Translations #general

Kevin Hanit <klh44@...>
 

Hello,

I would like to collectively thank everyone who translated some Yiddish to
English for me.

Thanks,
Kevin Hanit
Concord, ON Canada

Searching for: ABELOVICH (Derechin to Canada, Israel, New York and Argentina),
PARELMAN & PAREPLOTCHIK (Baranovichi to New York & Yarmouth, NS), KLETSKIN,
LEVITT, HOROWITZ, STOLAR (Baranovichi to Israel), GERCHICOF (Kyiv, Canada),
ROTFOGEL (Kielce or Lagow, Poland to Canada and USA, Lodz to Israel),
SPIEGEL (Kielce or Lagow, Poland to Canada and Philadelphia, PA)
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thanks for the Translations #general

Kevin Hanit <klh44@...>
 

Hello,

I would like to collectively thank everyone who translated some Yiddish to
English for me.

Thanks,
Kevin Hanit
Concord, ON Canada

Searching for: ABELOVICH (Derechin to Canada, Israel, New York and Argentina),
PARELMAN & PAREPLOTCHIK (Baranovichi to New York & Yarmouth, NS), KLETSKIN,
LEVITT, HOROWITZ, STOLAR (Baranovichi to Israel), GERCHICOF (Kyiv, Canada),
ROTFOGEL (Kielce or Lagow, Poland to Canada and USA, Lodz to Israel),
SPIEGEL (Kielce or Lagow, Poland to Canada and Philadelphia, PA)
Father's names on women's headstones in 19th century Hungary VM 4510-2 #general

Alex Skolnick <bussupp@...>
 

I have 5 headstones currently in ViewMate >from Balassagyarmat, Hungary
from the mid-late 1800s. For 3 of the 4 women, their father's names
were not included. Two of the four include the mother's name.
(without father's name:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4510
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4511
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4512

Was it normal not to include the father's name?
Several of the women's graves >from this cemetery seem to be short and
brief. Did they just run out of room (for example, the case of vm4512)?
Was it not considered important and only added when there was room?

Alex Skolnick

Searching:
GLEICH (Hungary); KASTRINER, RIGOTZ, SANDE, SILBERER (Balassagyarmat,
Hungary); JAKUBOVICS/JACOBS, FELDMAN (Nagy Kapos/Ungvar, Hungary)
GLUSOCK/GLUSCHAK, RADA (Dvinsk/Daugavpils, Latvia)
SKOLNICK, SHLIVKA/SCHLIFKA, IGLARZ (Ostrow Maz., Poland; Uruguay)
MARKOWITZ/MAKOWICZ, KOZLOWITZ (Kolno, Poland)
ROSEMAN/ROZMAN, PLOTNIK, CHAMOT/CHOMATINSKY (Kobrin)


MODERATOR NOTE: Translations should be sent privately. General replies
may be sent to the group and will be considered for posting.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Father's names on women's headstones in 19th century Hungary VM 4510-2 #general

Alex Skolnick <bussupp@...>
 

I have 5 headstones currently in ViewMate >from Balassagyarmat, Hungary
from the mid-late 1800s. For 3 of the 4 women, their father's names
were not included. Two of the four include the mother's name.
(without father's name:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4510
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4511
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4512

Was it normal not to include the father's name?
Several of the women's graves >from this cemetery seem to be short and
brief. Did they just run out of room (for example, the case of vm4512)?
Was it not considered important and only added when there was room?

Alex Skolnick

Searching:
GLEICH (Hungary); KASTRINER, RIGOTZ, SANDE, SILBERER (Balassagyarmat,
Hungary); JAKUBOVICS/JACOBS, FELDMAN (Nagy Kapos/Ungvar, Hungary)
GLUSOCK/GLUSCHAK, RADA (Dvinsk/Daugavpils, Latvia)
SKOLNICK, SHLIVKA/SCHLIFKA, IGLARZ (Ostrow Maz., Poland; Uruguay)
MARKOWITZ/MAKOWICZ, KOZLOWITZ (Kolno, Poland)
ROSEMAN/ROZMAN, PLOTNIK, CHAMOT/CHOMATINSKY (Kobrin)


MODERATOR NOTE: Translations should be sent privately. General replies
may be sent to the group and will be considered for posting.
Does the last name 'Suditz' mean anything? #general

Alex Skolnick <bussupp@...>
 

Abraham Suditz is the name found on his 1871 tombstone (vm4508)
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4508

However, earlier vital records found list his last name as "Szugy". He
lived in Balassagyarmat, Hungary and there is a town called Szugy just
down the road.

-Should I assume that Abraham was >from Szugy, used the adopted name of
Szugy >from his town because maybe that was the name his family chose,
and then later changed it to Suditz?

-SO does "Suditz" mean anything?

Alex Skolnick
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Does the last name 'Suditz' mean anything? #general

Alex Skolnick <bussupp@...>
 

Abraham Suditz is the name found on his 1871 tombstone (vm4508)
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4508

However, earlier vital records found list his last name as "Szugy". He
lived in Balassagyarmat, Hungary and there is a town called Szugy just
down the road.

-Should I assume that Abraham was >from Szugy, used the adopted name of
Szugy >from his town because maybe that was the name his family chose,
and then later changed it to Suditz?

-SO does "Suditz" mean anything?

Alex Skolnick
Theodore Hertzl, town near Prague #general

Roxane Stern <roxane.stern@...>
 

I have 2 requests.
My g grandmother, Francesca (Fannie) KOHN came >from a town called Krtech
(sp?) near Prague. Have been unable to find such a town. Any ideas?
-
Family lore has it that we are somehow related to Theodore Herzl or Hertzl.
Know about him and his family, but not about his parents, aunts, uncles,
etc. If you have info about any relatives, please let me know.
Thank you so much.
Roxane Stern
Los Angeles California

MODERATOR NOTE: Try the ShtetlSeeker database to help
find Krtech. The town search is available at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm >.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Theodore Hertzl, town near Prague #general

Roxane Stern <roxane.stern@...>
 

I have 2 requests.
My g grandmother, Francesca (Fannie) KOHN came >from a town called Krtech
(sp?) near Prague. Have been unable to find such a town. Any ideas?
-
Family lore has it that we are somehow related to Theodore Herzl or Hertzl.
Know about him and his family, but not about his parents, aunts, uncles,
etc. If you have info about any relatives, please let me know.
Thank you so much.
Roxane Stern
Los Angeles California

MODERATOR NOTE: Try the ShtetlSeeker database to help
find Krtech. The town search is available at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm >.
Re: Polish translation, please #general

edward konig <konige@...>
 

It means "county register - the number of persons of claimng to be Jewish"

"Denise Azbill" < famaz1@hotmail.com > wrote:

Would someone please translate the following:

Wykaz--powiatowy liczby ludnosci wyznania israelickiego
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Polish translation, please #general

edward konig <konige@...>
 

It means "county register - the number of persons of claimng to be Jewish"

"Denise Azbill" < famaz1@hotmail.com > wrote:

Would someone please translate the following:

Wykaz--powiatowy liczby ludnosci wyznania israelickiego
Re: Refugee visits - Frankfurt/Main #germany

Hansmartin Unger <hans-martinunger@...>
 

Refugees >from Frankfurt/Main may contact the following Mail-address:

lydia.plottnik@stadt-frankfurt.de

She informs you about the programs. Best,

Hansmartin Unger rural Switzerland <hans-martinunger@freesurf.ch>
German SIG #Germany Re: Refugee visits - Frankfurt/Main #germany

Hansmartin Unger <hans-martinunger@...>
 

Refugees >from Frankfurt/Main may contact the following Mail-address:

lydia.plottnik@stadt-frankfurt.de

She informs you about the programs. Best,

Hansmartin Unger rural Switzerland <hans-martinunger@freesurf.ch>
Re: Refugee visits to former hometowns #germany

EllnKahn@...
 

MODERATOR COMMENT: I will continue to post descriptions of "hometown visit"
programs as long as new information is sent to us.

** As you reflect on your experience, please think about the German individuals
** who organized these and related German Jewish History events. Some may be
** candidates for the Obermayer German History Award. John Paul Lowens - MOD 1

I was successful contacting hometowns in Germany for both of my parents and
my in-laws in the 1980s. All it took was a letter (which did not have to be
written in German) to the Burgermeister (Mayor) of the specific birthplace of
each refugee. The letters contained the refugee's complete birth name, date of
birth, parents' names, and current mailing address, inquiring as to the town's
return programs.

It took a month or two, but we heard >from each town. Two of the very small
villages could not afford to invite us but encouraged a visit should we come to
Germany. For one large town (Trier), we were put on a 3-year wait list. In
the case of my mother's hometown (Schwaebisch Hall), a few of my mother's
siblings had just been invited, and the town wrote that it was glad to have the
current address for my mother. In many cases, the towns did not know where to
send the invitation.

Schwaebisch Hall was the only town that could afford to invite all of its
former refugees and a companion back two more times (1992 and 1999). The town
was very gracious to all refugees, setting up special tours to interesting
places, opportunities to meet old friends, programs with local school children to
ask the refugees questions, etc. The local officials, archivists, and
reporters were with us almost daily during the week-long visit. The town was
wealthy enough to pay for the airline trip, hotel and meals.

The best part was that we were able to visit my grandparents' homes, the
Jewish cemeteries (two in nearby villages), and have access to their archives.
The county historian and the town's archivist helped me to find the oldest
cemetery and make copies of records going back to the early 1700s.

Even though it is 20 years later, I would encourage Ralph and other former
refugees to write to the Burgermeister in their hometown. By the way, I had
sent a separate letter requesting genealogical data >from the Burgermeister (or
Standesamt) which began my successful research. A sample of this letter
(written in rough German and translated in English) was published in the Jewish
Genealogical Society's newsletter SEARCH Winter 1988 in an article I wrote
entitled "My Success in Obtaining Genealogical Records >from West Germany."

Ellen Lukas Kahn Homewood, Illinois EllnKahn@aol.com

Researching: EISEMAN - Mosbach; FALK - Bad Schwalbach; FELDENHEIMER - Hengstfeld;
GUNDELFINGER - Michelbach an der Lucke; JACOBS- Osann-Witlich; RIMON-Oettingen;
STEINER- Duensbach; KAHN- Klusserath (on the Mosel near Trier); MAY- Niedermendig;
LUCAS- Mulheim an der Ruhr, Duisburg; LUKAS- Niedermendig (Mendig); LEVY - Aach;
NEUMANN- Michelbach a/d Lucke, Weisenbach; STRAUS- Laufersweiler;
SCHWAB- Schwabisch Hall, Dunsbach, Oberdorf bei Bopfingen
ROSENFELD- Hengstfeld, Walhausen, Wachbach.
German SIG #Germany Re: Refugee visits to former hometowns #germany

EllnKahn@...
 

MODERATOR COMMENT: I will continue to post descriptions of "hometown visit"
programs as long as new information is sent to us.

** As you reflect on your experience, please think about the German individuals
** who organized these and related German Jewish History events. Some may be
** candidates for the Obermayer German History Award. John Paul Lowens - MOD 1

I was successful contacting hometowns in Germany for both of my parents and
my in-laws in the 1980s. All it took was a letter (which did not have to be
written in German) to the Burgermeister (Mayor) of the specific birthplace of
each refugee. The letters contained the refugee's complete birth name, date of
birth, parents' names, and current mailing address, inquiring as to the town's
return programs.

It took a month or two, but we heard >from each town. Two of the very small
villages could not afford to invite us but encouraged a visit should we come to
Germany. For one large town (Trier), we were put on a 3-year wait list. In
the case of my mother's hometown (Schwaebisch Hall), a few of my mother's
siblings had just been invited, and the town wrote that it was glad to have the
current address for my mother. In many cases, the towns did not know where to
send the invitation.

Schwaebisch Hall was the only town that could afford to invite all of its
former refugees and a companion back two more times (1992 and 1999). The town
was very gracious to all refugees, setting up special tours to interesting
places, opportunities to meet old friends, programs with local school children to
ask the refugees questions, etc. The local officials, archivists, and
reporters were with us almost daily during the week-long visit. The town was
wealthy enough to pay for the airline trip, hotel and meals.

The best part was that we were able to visit my grandparents' homes, the
Jewish cemeteries (two in nearby villages), and have access to their archives.
The county historian and the town's archivist helped me to find the oldest
cemetery and make copies of records going back to the early 1700s.

Even though it is 20 years later, I would encourage Ralph and other former
refugees to write to the Burgermeister in their hometown. By the way, I had
sent a separate letter requesting genealogical data >from the Burgermeister (or
Standesamt) which began my successful research. A sample of this letter
(written in rough German and translated in English) was published in the Jewish
Genealogical Society's newsletter SEARCH Winter 1988 in an article I wrote
entitled "My Success in Obtaining Genealogical Records >from West Germany."

Ellen Lukas Kahn Homewood, Illinois EllnKahn@aol.com

Researching: EISEMAN - Mosbach; FALK - Bad Schwalbach; FELDENHEIMER - Hengstfeld;
GUNDELFINGER - Michelbach an der Lucke; JACOBS- Osann-Witlich; RIMON-Oettingen;
STEINER- Duensbach; KAHN- Klusserath (on the Mosel near Trier); MAY- Niedermendig;
LUCAS- Mulheim an der Ruhr, Duisburg; LUKAS- Niedermendig (Mendig); LEVY - Aach;
NEUMANN- Michelbach a/d Lucke, Weisenbach; STRAUS- Laufersweiler;
SCHWAB- Schwabisch Hall, Dunsbach, Oberdorf bei Bopfingen
ROSENFELD- Hengstfeld, Walhausen, Wachbach.
Re: Shoemakers #belarus

Larry Gaum <lgaum@...>
 

My grandfather Shiah LATUCHA, born 1877 in Kozhan Horodok, Belarus, came to
Canada in 1910. On the purser's list of the S.S. Carthagenian, he is listed
as a shoemaker. He was no more a shoemaker than I am and probably never
repaired or made a shoe in his life. Why it was prudent to list himself as
one I do not know He was however a trained meatcutter and had a stamp of
approval >from the kashrut establishment as one who could "traibe" or make
kosher, the hind quarter of the cow. This was extremely rare, especially in
the Atlantic Provinces of Canada.
Whenever we would mention to him about his "expertise" as a shoemaker he
would laugh and thought it was funny.
There was very little discrimination in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, as the
Eastern Europeans, Jewish and non-Jewish lived side by side in peace and
harmony. This also included the Italians, most of whom performed manual
labour. Very few were shoemakers.
Larry Gaum
Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Shoemakers #belarus

Larry Gaum <lgaum@...>
 

My grandfather Shiah LATUCHA, born 1877 in Kozhan Horodok, Belarus, came to
Canada in 1910. On the purser's list of the S.S. Carthagenian, he is listed
as a shoemaker. He was no more a shoemaker than I am and probably never
repaired or made a shoe in his life. Why it was prudent to list himself as
one I do not know He was however a trained meatcutter and had a stamp of
approval >from the kashrut establishment as one who could "traibe" or make
kosher, the hind quarter of the cow. This was extremely rare, especially in
the Atlantic Provinces of Canada.
Whenever we would mention to him about his "expertise" as a shoemaker he
would laugh and thought it was funny.
There was very little discrimination in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, as the
Eastern Europeans, Jewish and non-Jewish lived side by side in peace and
harmony. This also included the Italians, most of whom performed manual
labour. Very few were shoemakers.
Larry Gaum
Posted on behalf of Martha Lev-Zion, Jerusalem Conference Committee. #ukraine

Flo Elman
 

Chaverim, there was an error in my posting regarding the video of the
Conference evening at Yad Vashem. I have since learned that the video
includes only the entertainment portion of that event

The various lectures given that afternoon at Yad Vashem are included on the
set of Lecture CDs containing Conference lectures, which were recorded
using MP3 technology. This set runs $40 including handling and shipping
[200 NIS including v.a.t]. It includes all the lectures that were given
during the 2004 Conference in Jerusalem, except a couple whose sound was so
distorted that we did not want to include them and ruin the quality of the
set of CDs. If you are interested in ordering the entire gamut of lectures,
please go to IGS site:
http://www.isragen.org.il/ROS/CD/2004ConfCDlecture.pdf and you can download
and print the order form.
I apologize for any misunderstanding regarding the video >from Yad Vashem.
Martha
-------------
Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Ph.D.
The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
Jerusalem, July 4-9, 2004
http://www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Posted on behalf of Martha Lev-Zion, Jerusalem Conference Committee. #ukraine

Flo Elman
 

Chaverim, there was an error in my posting regarding the video of the
Conference evening at Yad Vashem. I have since learned that the video
includes only the entertainment portion of that event

The various lectures given that afternoon at Yad Vashem are included on the
set of Lecture CDs containing Conference lectures, which were recorded
using MP3 technology. This set runs $40 including handling and shipping
[200 NIS including v.a.t]. It includes all the lectures that were given
during the 2004 Conference in Jerusalem, except a couple whose sound was so
distorted that we did not want to include them and ruin the quality of the
set of CDs. If you are interested in ordering the entire gamut of lectures,
please go to IGS site:
http://www.isragen.org.il/ROS/CD/2004ConfCDlecture.pdf and you can download
and print the order form.
I apologize for any misunderstanding regarding the video >from Yad Vashem.
Martha
-------------
Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Ph.D.
The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
Jerusalem, July 4-9, 2004
http://www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004
Yehonoson Rubin - Pinkas Slutsk #belarus

Leonid Zeliger <leonidze@...>
 

I've received a mail >from Yehonoson Rubin on the subject of The Pinkas of
Chevra Kadisha of Slutsk. Since the delivery of my reply to Mr. Rubin failed
I ask him to be in touch with me again, using another email service or
address.


Leonid Zeliger
leonidze@hotmail.com
Jerusalem
Belarus SIG #Belarus Yehonoson Rubin - Pinkas Slutsk #belarus

Leonid Zeliger <leonidze@...>
 

I've received a mail >from Yehonoson Rubin on the subject of The Pinkas of
Chevra Kadisha of Slutsk. Since the delivery of my reply to Mr. Rubin failed
I ask him to be in touch with me again, using another email service or
address.


Leonid Zeliger
leonidze@hotmail.com
Jerusalem
391641 - 391660 of 654716  
More
Home Guidelines Messages Hashtags Subgroups Wiki Terms