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Re: Family Reunion #france

Natalie Spencer Carroll
 

Descendants and kin of Aron Czarnoczapka and his wife Ester Lea
nee Horowicz are having their second Family Reunion early
this coming October. Interested parties are invited to
contact me privately.

Gerald I. Simon
gilmore3@ix.netcom.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Family Reunion #general

Natalie Spencer Carroll
 

Descendants and kin of Aron Czarnoczapka and his wife Ester Lea
nee Horowicz are having their second Family Reunion early
this coming October. Interested parties are invited to
contact me privately.

Gerald I. Simon
gilmore3@ix.netcom.com


Synagogues of Slovakia #general

Rona Michelson <rona@...>
 

My son-in-law sent me a PowerPoint presentation on synagogues
of Slovakia that was done recently by a young Israeli.
If you are interested in receiving it, please email me
and I will send it.

Rona Michelson
Modi'in, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Synagogues of Slovakia #general

Rona Michelson <rona@...>
 

My son-in-law sent me a PowerPoint presentation on synagogues
of Slovakia that was done recently by a young Israeli.
If you are interested in receiving it, please email me
and I will send it.

Rona Michelson
Modi'in, Israel


GARTSTEIN from Novofastov, Ukraine #general

Elena Green <elena.v.green@...>
 

Shalom,

I am fairly new to JewishGen, but I thought I shall seek the advice from
JewishGenners pertaining to my genealogical research since I seem to have
been getting nowhere.

I am searching for the names of 8 or 9 siblings of my great-great uncle
Meyer-Haim Iosifovich GARTSTEIN, b. 1889 in Novofastov, Pogrebishchensky
rayon/district, Vinnitzkaya gubernya/oblast/region, Ukraine/Russian Empire,
to Iosif GARTSTEIN (b. 1874, Novofastov) and to >>> Chaya, with both parents
perished in 1919 pogroms. Meyer-Haim had 8 or 9 other brothers and sisters,
who are known to have immigrated to the USA fleeing the pogroms.

According to my grandmother, Riva Haimovna GARTSTEIN (b.1917, Novofastov),
eldest daughter of Meyer-Haim GARTSTEIN and Yenta Ruvinovna LURIE (b. 1891,
Novofastov), all the siblings immigrated to Philadelphia and Chicago. My
grandmother could only recall the names of her aunt Chanaleya and uncle
Shaya of the 8-9 siblings.

I have written to the Jewish Community of Vinnitsa, and to the State
Archives of Ukraine in Vinnitsa and Kiev, but haven't heard back >from them
as yet. I also tried searching for the names of g.uncles/aunts in Ellis
Island database and on Ancestry.com, but came up only with one person listed
as Welwel GARTSTEIN of "Novavastow" (b.1888?), who was heading to Chicago to
join his uncle, J. GOLDBERG. The search gave a few other GARTSTEIN
immigrated >from the towns other than Novofastov, e.g. Bar, Berdichev. I am
not sure whether they are related to my family or not since they're from
different shtetls.

In addition to the names of my great-great uncles and aunts, I've been
seeking any information on the shtetl of Novofastov, with almost no results.
I know that my great-great uncle Meyer-Haim like most people in his shtetl
worked on the Novofastov mill owned by a Polish landlady.

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions >from the Genners on how to go
about the search. Maybe there are things that are obvious for you,
experienced genealogists, which I cannot see. Any advice at all is welcomed.
Please reply privately to gartstein@shaw.ca. Thank you.

Elena Green
Victoria, BC

=======
Searching:
GARTSTEIN/GARTSHTEIN (Novofastov/Novavastow)
LURIE/LURIA (Lithuania, Novofastov/Novavastow)
GOLDBERG (Chicago)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GARTSTEIN from Novofastov, Ukraine #general

Elena Green <elena.v.green@...>
 

Shalom,

I am fairly new to JewishGen, but I thought I shall seek the advice from
JewishGenners pertaining to my genealogical research since I seem to have
been getting nowhere.

I am searching for the names of 8 or 9 siblings of my great-great uncle
Meyer-Haim Iosifovich GARTSTEIN, b. 1889 in Novofastov, Pogrebishchensky
rayon/district, Vinnitzkaya gubernya/oblast/region, Ukraine/Russian Empire,
to Iosif GARTSTEIN (b. 1874, Novofastov) and to >>> Chaya, with both parents
perished in 1919 pogroms. Meyer-Haim had 8 or 9 other brothers and sisters,
who are known to have immigrated to the USA fleeing the pogroms.

According to my grandmother, Riva Haimovna GARTSTEIN (b.1917, Novofastov),
eldest daughter of Meyer-Haim GARTSTEIN and Yenta Ruvinovna LURIE (b. 1891,
Novofastov), all the siblings immigrated to Philadelphia and Chicago. My
grandmother could only recall the names of her aunt Chanaleya and uncle
Shaya of the 8-9 siblings.

I have written to the Jewish Community of Vinnitsa, and to the State
Archives of Ukraine in Vinnitsa and Kiev, but haven't heard back >from them
as yet. I also tried searching for the names of g.uncles/aunts in Ellis
Island database and on Ancestry.com, but came up only with one person listed
as Welwel GARTSTEIN of "Novavastow" (b.1888?), who was heading to Chicago to
join his uncle, J. GOLDBERG. The search gave a few other GARTSTEIN
immigrated >from the towns other than Novofastov, e.g. Bar, Berdichev. I am
not sure whether they are related to my family or not since they're from
different shtetls.

In addition to the names of my great-great uncles and aunts, I've been
seeking any information on the shtetl of Novofastov, with almost no results.
I know that my great-great uncle Meyer-Haim like most people in his shtetl
worked on the Novofastov mill owned by a Polish landlady.

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions >from the Genners on how to go
about the search. Maybe there are things that are obvious for you,
experienced genealogists, which I cannot see. Any advice at all is welcomed.
Please reply privately to gartstein@shaw.ca. Thank you.

Elena Green
Victoria, BC

=======
Searching:
GARTSTEIN/GARTSHTEIN (Novofastov/Novavastow)
LURIE/LURIA (Lithuania, Novofastov/Novavastow)
GOLDBERG (Chicago)


Two portraits to ID on Viewmate #ukraine

Flo Elman
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,
I have posted two portraits on the Viewmate site
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html - Numbers VM4678 & VM4679

Although I can make out terrific resemblances to my maternal grandfather's
family, I cannot place these women. I would guess that the dark-complexioned
woman seems to have been a daughter or sister (given name - Gitl??
Tsivya?? ) of Pesach GOTLIBOVICH >from Cherkassy, Ukraine. Do you recognize
the ribbon she has on her dress? The slender fair-haired woman may have been
a relative to KOROSTYSHEVSKY or GOTLIBOVICH. She is 16 years old in the
photo which was taken in 1919. Does she look like anyone you recognize?
Can you identify either of them? If you can help, please contact me
privately at haflo@shaw.ca

Many thanks,
Florence Elman
haflo@shaw.ca

Researching: NAVRICHESKY >from Korsun-Schevchenskiy; NERENBERG & POGRANICH(NY)
from Podolia; SURIS >from Odessa & Berezovka, Ukraine
MLOTOK, relatives of GOTLIBOVICH & KATSOVICH; COTLER, cousins to SURIS


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Two portraits to ID on Viewmate #ukraine

Flo Elman
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,
I have posted two portraits on the Viewmate site
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html - Numbers VM4678 & VM4679

Although I can make out terrific resemblances to my maternal grandfather's
family, I cannot place these women. I would guess that the dark-complexioned
woman seems to have been a daughter or sister (given name - Gitl??
Tsivya?? ) of Pesach GOTLIBOVICH >from Cherkassy, Ukraine. Do you recognize
the ribbon she has on her dress? The slender fair-haired woman may have been
a relative to KOROSTYSHEVSKY or GOTLIBOVICH. She is 16 years old in the
photo which was taken in 1919. Does she look like anyone you recognize?
Can you identify either of them? If you can help, please contact me
privately at haflo@shaw.ca

Many thanks,
Florence Elman
haflo@shaw.ca

Researching: NAVRICHESKY >from Korsun-Schevchenskiy; NERENBERG & POGRANICH(NY)
from Podolia; SURIS >from Odessa & Berezovka, Ukraine
MLOTOK, relatives of GOTLIBOVICH & KATSOVICH; COTLER, cousins to SURIS


Tikhovolya [bialystok] #poland

hennynow
 

I had the same thought, i.e. that "Tikhovolya" might be Suchowola. However,
its location, as described by Batya, is totally opposite that of Suchowola,
which is north of Bialystok.

So, we seem to be dealing with another shtetl.

Henny

Henriette Moed Roth
Los Angeles, California
hennynow@pacbell.net


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Tikhovolya [bialystok] #poland

hennynow
 

I had the same thought, i.e. that "Tikhovolya" might be Suchowola. However,
its location, as described by Batya, is totally opposite that of Suchowola,
which is north of Bialystok.

So, we seem to be dealing with another shtetl.

Henny

Henriette Moed Roth
Los Angeles, California
hennynow@pacbell.net


Current Town Name corresponding to Independent Zetler Benev Assn; location of burial plots #belarus

Susan Goldsmith
 

Dear SIG,
I am looking for the current town name that corresponds to the
Independent ZetlerYoung Mens Benevolent Assn, having tried the B and JGen
databases, Google, and the NYJGS site. I would also like to know the
locations of Zetler Assn burial plots. Thank you very much.
Best Regards,
Susan Goldsmith
Piedmont CA

Researching:
TOBIAS (TOUBES), ROZANSKY Novvy Sverzhen, Stolbtsy, Mir Belarus
HOROWICZ, DROSNAN Dolginovo, Vilieka Belarus
GOLDSMITH, GITTES, SHOLOMOVICH, FILVINSKI, NEKRITS, ZUKHOVSKY
Adutiskis, Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Vandziogala, Ukmerge, Kedainiai,
Zemaiciu Naumiestis Lithuania, Israel; TSOREF Israel


Belarus SIG #Belarus Current Town Name corresponding to Independent Zetler Benev Assn; location of burial plots #belarus

Susan Goldsmith
 

Dear SIG,
I am looking for the current town name that corresponds to the
Independent ZetlerYoung Mens Benevolent Assn, having tried the B and JGen
databases, Google, and the NYJGS site. I would also like to know the
locations of Zetler Assn burial plots. Thank you very much.
Best Regards,
Susan Goldsmith
Piedmont CA

Researching:
TOBIAS (TOUBES), ROZANSKY Novvy Sverzhen, Stolbtsy, Mir Belarus
HOROWICZ, DROSNAN Dolginovo, Vilieka Belarus
GOLDSMITH, GITTES, SHOLOMOVICH, FILVINSKI, NEKRITS, ZUKHOVSKY
Adutiskis, Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Vandziogala, Ukmerge, Kedainiai,
Zemaiciu Naumiestis Lithuania, Israel; TSOREF Israel


Re: New Yizkor project: "The Holocaust in Belarus" #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

Dear SIG Members,

I hope that everyone took the time to read Irene's message and the project
proposal to translate the YB written by Dr. Smilovitsky. I made my donation
to the project today and hope that many others will do so as well. It's
very easy to to do. Go to:

http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Belarus.html

and designate your donation to the translation of this YB. While you are
there, please consider a donation to some of the other Belarus SIG projects,
the Belarus SIG general fund, and the JewishGen general fund.

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@earthlink.net
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus

On 9/4/04 Irene Newhouse wrote:
Long-term members may recall that late last year, I asked for volunteers to
help translate >from Russian Dr. Leonid Smilovitsky's "The Holocaust in
Belarus". Although there was some response, the rate of progress has been
slow, so the next step has been taken: all of you with an interest in
Belarus who wish to be able to read the book in its entirety in English now
have the opportunity to make (US) tax-deductible donations towards its
translation by professional translators. A total of $2000 should do the
job.


Scarterro St. synagogue info ? #unitedkingdom

JNB <jnblank@...>
 

I have just received information >from the Federation of Synagogues
offices (I a have to compliment Mr. Kahler for a prompt and informative
reply to my request !) regarding Hyman (Chaim) LITWIN and his wife, Jane
LITWIN, both buried in the Edmonton cemetery. Hymie was a half-brother
of my maternal grandfather, David MIRMOVITSCH.

According to this information, at the time of his death in October 1925,
Hymie Litwin was a member of the "Scarterro St. Synagogue". His last
address was listed as 71 Royal Mint St. London E1. I would therefore
assume that the synagogue was located somewhere in London's East End,
but I have so far failed to come up with any information on such a
synagogue.

I'd be grateful for any relevant information.

Joel Blankett
Jerusalem, Israel


Researching (in London) : BELINKIN, LITWIN

--


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: New Yizkor project: "The Holocaust in Belarus" #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

Dear SIG Members,

I hope that everyone took the time to read Irene's message and the project
proposal to translate the YB written by Dr. Smilovitsky. I made my donation
to the project today and hope that many others will do so as well. It's
very easy to to do. Go to:

http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Belarus.html

and designate your donation to the translation of this YB. While you are
there, please consider a donation to some of the other Belarus SIG projects,
the Belarus SIG general fund, and the JewishGen general fund.

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@earthlink.net
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus

On 9/4/04 Irene Newhouse wrote:
Long-term members may recall that late last year, I asked for volunteers to
help translate >from Russian Dr. Leonid Smilovitsky's "The Holocaust in
Belarus". Although there was some response, the rate of progress has been
slow, so the next step has been taken: all of you with an interest in
Belarus who wish to be able to read the book in its entirety in English now
have the opportunity to make (US) tax-deductible donations towards its
translation by professional translators. A total of $2000 should do the
job.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Scarterro St. synagogue info ? #unitedkingdom

JNB <jnblank@...>
 

I have just received information >from the Federation of Synagogues
offices (I a have to compliment Mr. Kahler for a prompt and informative
reply to my request !) regarding Hyman (Chaim) LITWIN and his wife, Jane
LITWIN, both buried in the Edmonton cemetery. Hymie was a half-brother
of my maternal grandfather, David MIRMOVITSCH.

According to this information, at the time of his death in October 1925,
Hymie Litwin was a member of the "Scarterro St. Synagogue". His last
address was listed as 71 Royal Mint St. London E1. I would therefore
assume that the synagogue was located somewhere in London's East End,
but I have so far failed to come up with any information on such a
synagogue.

I'd be grateful for any relevant information.

Joel Blankett
Jerusalem, Israel


Researching (in London) : BELINKIN, LITWIN

--


Citizenship Question #latvia

K. & L. Bertelsen <layakbtl@...>
 

My late maternal Grandmother (Mama Nana) was born in Libau in 1898. Her
Mother and her Mother's maternal and paternal families (STEINHAUER and
LAPIDUS) were >from Vilna. Her Father and his maternal and paternal family
(PALM and ARONIS) were all born in Libau or earlier in Kuldiga/Goldingen
and perhaps Hasenpoth/Aizpute.
My GGPs were married in Vilna in 1897 and then went to live in Libau.

My GGF died in 1901 (aged only 35 years), and my GGM remarried a year or so
later. Her second husband, who was a widower with a young daughter the same
age as my GM, was born in Shargorad ca.1871.

I do not know when or where my GGM's second marriage took place, but the
family ended up in Odessa, via Mogilev-Podolia and perhaps Vinnitza, some
time pre WWI.

My GGM, her second husband and their two surviving sons, fled >from Odessa
in 1921 - Rumania/Germany - arriving in Montreal in 1925. My GM and her
step-sister were both married then and didn't flee with their parents.

My GPs and my late Mother (born Odessa 1921) left Odessa for Montreal - my
GF in 1925 and Mama Nana and Mama followed in 1926. They travelled back to
Libau, where Mama Nana still had paternal and maternal relatives, whom she
met again at that time. Some managed to get to Israel/ France/South Africa
and America in the 1920s and 1930s, but the rest probably perished. Both
my GFand Mama Nana and Mama travelled >from Odessa to Libau and >from Libau
to London/Montreal on the AUSSONIA (separate voyages).

I still have my Mama Nana's Ukrainian USSR passport, issued in Odessa in
February 1926, which has a Moscow stamp in it also. So, it would seem that
although she was born in Libau, she was a Russian, or perhaps
Ukrainian/USSR citizen, although I cannot say if this was because of her
marriage to my GF, who was born in Odessa, or because anyway Latvia, as her
place of birth, was regarded as part of the Russian Empire and thus the
USSR?????

Mama Nana and Mama became British/Canadian citizens in the 1930s and
travelled to Australia in1938 on a Canadian passport.

Mama always thought she had become an Australian citizen by way of her
first marriage in 1941, but when she and my step-Father could finally
afford to take a holiday overseas in the 1980s, and Mama applied for an
Australian passport, she discovered that she virtually had no citizenship,
as a result of law changes in the 1970s, and had to be naturalized as an
Australian citizen, which caused her untold distress as she had never had a
birth certificate >from Odessa, etc. Eventually it was all sorted out and
Mama and our step-Father finally were able to visit Vienna where Dad had
fled >from in 1938. However, I only managed to obtain a copy of Mama's
birth record >from the Odessa Archives a few years ago. Thank goodness
Mama's health had not deteriorated to such an extent by then, so she
finally was able to see her birth record (in Cyrillic).

So, like everything else, our families were subjected to the whims of
history and it seems someone born in Latvia or Lithuania prior to say
1918/19 would have been a "Tsarist Russian" citizen.

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho, Downunder

If someone Jewish was born in Leibow (now Leipaja) in Latvia in 1891 and
> left for USA in 1908 and never became a USA citizen what would their
> nationality be (passport) Latvian or Russian or German?????


Latvia SIG #Latvia Citizenship Question #latvia

K. & L. Bertelsen <layakbtl@...>
 

My late maternal Grandmother (Mama Nana) was born in Libau in 1898. Her
Mother and her Mother's maternal and paternal families (STEINHAUER and
LAPIDUS) were >from Vilna. Her Father and his maternal and paternal family
(PALM and ARONIS) were all born in Libau or earlier in Kuldiga/Goldingen
and perhaps Hasenpoth/Aizpute.
My GGPs were married in Vilna in 1897 and then went to live in Libau.

My GGF died in 1901 (aged only 35 years), and my GGM remarried a year or so
later. Her second husband, who was a widower with a young daughter the same
age as my GM, was born in Shargorad ca.1871.

I do not know when or where my GGM's second marriage took place, but the
family ended up in Odessa, via Mogilev-Podolia and perhaps Vinnitza, some
time pre WWI.

My GGM, her second husband and their two surviving sons, fled >from Odessa
in 1921 - Rumania/Germany - arriving in Montreal in 1925. My GM and her
step-sister were both married then and didn't flee with their parents.

My GPs and my late Mother (born Odessa 1921) left Odessa for Montreal - my
GF in 1925 and Mama Nana and Mama followed in 1926. They travelled back to
Libau, where Mama Nana still had paternal and maternal relatives, whom she
met again at that time. Some managed to get to Israel/ France/South Africa
and America in the 1920s and 1930s, but the rest probably perished. Both
my GFand Mama Nana and Mama travelled >from Odessa to Libau and >from Libau
to London/Montreal on the AUSSONIA (separate voyages).

I still have my Mama Nana's Ukrainian USSR passport, issued in Odessa in
February 1926, which has a Moscow stamp in it also. So, it would seem that
although she was born in Libau, she was a Russian, or perhaps
Ukrainian/USSR citizen, although I cannot say if this was because of her
marriage to my GF, who was born in Odessa, or because anyway Latvia, as her
place of birth, was regarded as part of the Russian Empire and thus the
USSR?????

Mama Nana and Mama became British/Canadian citizens in the 1930s and
travelled to Australia in1938 on a Canadian passport.

Mama always thought she had become an Australian citizen by way of her
first marriage in 1941, but when she and my step-Father could finally
afford to take a holiday overseas in the 1980s, and Mama applied for an
Australian passport, she discovered that she virtually had no citizenship,
as a result of law changes in the 1970s, and had to be naturalized as an
Australian citizen, which caused her untold distress as she had never had a
birth certificate >from Odessa, etc. Eventually it was all sorted out and
Mama and our step-Father finally were able to visit Vienna where Dad had
fled >from in 1938. However, I only managed to obtain a copy of Mama's
birth record >from the Odessa Archives a few years ago. Thank goodness
Mama's health had not deteriorated to such an extent by then, so she
finally was able to see her birth record (in Cyrillic).

So, like everything else, our families were subjected to the whims of
history and it seems someone born in Latvia or Lithuania prior to say
1918/19 would have been a "Tsarist Russian" citizen.

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho, Downunder

If someone Jewish was born in Leibow (now Leipaja) in Latvia in 1891 and
> left for USA in 1908 and never became a USA citizen what would their
> nationality be (passport) Latvian or Russian or German?????


Independent Zetler and all New York burial societies #belarus

Jerome Seligsohn <jselig1315@...>
 

To all those who seek the New York location of
landsmanshaft burial sites one must go to
www.jgsny.org to find these locations under the 10,800
burial societies a gift to us all .
I am pleased to note that a single voice out there has
noticed one of my archived landsmanshaft collections.
It spurs me on to further landsmanshaften archiving.

Jerry Seligsohn
NYC
researching SELIGSOHN and ELKIN of Mogilev/Dnepr


Belarus SIG #Belarus Independent Zetler and all New York burial societies #belarus

Jerome Seligsohn <jselig1315@...>
 

To all those who seek the New York location of
landsmanshaft burial sites one must go to
www.jgsny.org to find these locations under the 10,800
burial societies a gift to us all .
I am pleased to note that a single voice out there has
noticed one of my archived landsmanshaft collections.
It spurs me on to further landsmanshaften archiving.

Jerry Seligsohn
NYC
researching SELIGSOHN and ELKIN of Mogilev/Dnepr