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Ukraine SIG News Alert - New Projects Pages #ukraine

Deborah Glassman <historian2020@...>
 

Dear Fellow SIG Members

We continue to add resources to the Web site.

Go to our Projects Page http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/projects.htm to see
that:

1. Ron Doctor and Sheree Roth together leading the Kremenets Shtetl CO-OP of
the JRI-Poland, have provided an amazing set of tools that in addition to
showing you the picture of what your surname probably looks like in Russian
and Hebrew (if it is one of the surnames also in their region) and specific
words for causes of death, or for occupations, or for words in vital and
demographic materials; also gives name indexes to a major community in
Volhynnia gubernia.

2. The ShtetLink Webmasters of the Ukraine now have a new forum to let you
know about their work and their upcoming projects. And the webmasters of
Litin, Poninka, and Snitkowo have begun to do so.

3. That there is a new place to collect a visual database of info on
photographer's marks >from different cities so that eventually, we can help
date your photos . We certainly want every photo that you have that was
taken in Ukrainian towns and cities. But now we also want you to turn them
over and send the photographer's details that are on the backs too.

4.Where the flood of data and pictures that you have been sending has gone
to make our projects work.

What you can't see there are the volunteer efforts that the membership have
begun after these project needs were posted.. Alex Kopelberg helped bring
into being five pages of quality modern photographs of Zhitomir and is eager
to help with other Volhynnian projects. Laura Katz, Bonnie Blish, Barbara
Stephenson, and Naomi Moderick have been creating indices of emigrants from
their respective ancestral towns of Smela, Dashev, Odessa, and Proskurov and
they have agreed to begin on the long slow process of creating an index that
did not exist previously for Third Parties named in the Records of the
Emigrants >from those towns. The names of people back in the "old country"
and the names of the relatives and friends waiting at the destination
address and the names of all members of a traveling party, these are the
names being tracked for the first time by these hard-working ladies, who
will be eyes-on for every manifest with an emigrant >from their towns. Eliana
Aizim has graciously shared photos, recipes, information about Brazilian
resources on Ukrainian immigrants, and suggestions that improved the
information-gathering ability of our databases. There are others who have
made important contributions too and I am going to try to work around to
naming them all in the coming months, I didn't even mention all of those who
have long been SIG activists.

In September we asked for information on particular towns as an incentive to
start the process rolling. Your fellow members understood the spirit of the
request and did not limit themselves to those towns. But it seems to help to
have a target list, so for November we would like folks sending us
pictures, family records, archival finds, etc. for the towns of Kharkov,
Poltava, Mogilev-Podolia, Lutsk, Nikolaev in Kherson, anyplace in Taurida or
Crimea, and Kremenchug.

If you have sent me data for one of the databases and it was not published
within 2 weeks of your sending it, can you please send me a note? With the
Holidays, it might have been put aside and not returned to, and your
contribution is important. Use the 2 week rule anytime, to make sure that
your material has not been misplaced.

Deborah Glassman
Co-Coordinator of the Ukraine SIG
historian2020@comcast.net


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Ukraine SIG News Alert - New Projects Pages #ukraine

Deborah Glassman <historian2020@...>
 

Dear Fellow SIG Members

We continue to add resources to the Web site.

Go to our Projects Page http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/projects.htm to see
that:

1. Ron Doctor and Sheree Roth together leading the Kremenets Shtetl CO-OP of
the JRI-Poland, have provided an amazing set of tools that in addition to
showing you the picture of what your surname probably looks like in Russian
and Hebrew (if it is one of the surnames also in their region) and specific
words for causes of death, or for occupations, or for words in vital and
demographic materials; also gives name indexes to a major community in
Volhynnia gubernia.

2. The ShtetLink Webmasters of the Ukraine now have a new forum to let you
know about their work and their upcoming projects. And the webmasters of
Litin, Poninka, and Snitkowo have begun to do so.

3. That there is a new place to collect a visual database of info on
photographer's marks >from different cities so that eventually, we can help
date your photos . We certainly want every photo that you have that was
taken in Ukrainian towns and cities. But now we also want you to turn them
over and send the photographer's details that are on the backs too.

4.Where the flood of data and pictures that you have been sending has gone
to make our projects work.

What you can't see there are the volunteer efforts that the membership have
begun after these project needs were posted.. Alex Kopelberg helped bring
into being five pages of quality modern photographs of Zhitomir and is eager
to help with other Volhynnian projects. Laura Katz, Bonnie Blish, Barbara
Stephenson, and Naomi Moderick have been creating indices of emigrants from
their respective ancestral towns of Smela, Dashev, Odessa, and Proskurov and
they have agreed to begin on the long slow process of creating an index that
did not exist previously for Third Parties named in the Records of the
Emigrants >from those towns. The names of people back in the "old country"
and the names of the relatives and friends waiting at the destination
address and the names of all members of a traveling party, these are the
names being tracked for the first time by these hard-working ladies, who
will be eyes-on for every manifest with an emigrant >from their towns. Eliana
Aizim has graciously shared photos, recipes, information about Brazilian
resources on Ukrainian immigrants, and suggestions that improved the
information-gathering ability of our databases. There are others who have
made important contributions too and I am going to try to work around to
naming them all in the coming months, I didn't even mention all of those who
have long been SIG activists.

In September we asked for information on particular towns as an incentive to
start the process rolling. Your fellow members understood the spirit of the
request and did not limit themselves to those towns. But it seems to help to
have a target list, so for November we would like folks sending us
pictures, family records, archival finds, etc. for the towns of Kharkov,
Poltava, Mogilev-Podolia, Lutsk, Nikolaev in Kherson, anyplace in Taurida or
Crimea, and Kremenchug.

If you have sent me data for one of the databases and it was not published
within 2 weeks of your sending it, can you please send me a note? With the
Holidays, it might have been put aside and not returned to, and your
contribution is important. Use the 2 week rule anytime, to make sure that
your material has not been misplaced.

Deborah Glassman
Co-Coordinator of the Ukraine SIG
historian2020@comcast.net


Re: Information about Independent Stanislaver Lodge Society #ukraine

ligeia23@...
 

<<<Lynn Troyansky Arroyo wrote:

Dear Henry,
You wrote:

Has anyone ever heard of a Society called Independent Stanislaver
Lodge. The last person who was the contact was a Arthur S Alfert. I
have two phone numbers of him but both seem to be not working anymore.

This was all I could come up with to try to help you. It does give the
town of origin for the society.

I found that if you call the cemetery, they usually have up to date
records for whoever is in charge of the society you are looking for and are
usually very cooperative......... >>>


My maternal grandmother is buried in Baron Hirsch Cemetery in Staten
Island, NY in the Independent Stanislauer Lodge section. The staff at
Baron Hirsch are helpful and I would be interested to know if Henry
finds a contact connected to this society.

I visited my grandmother's grave in September and many of the graves
in that area are quite old (many date back to the early 20th century)
and overgrown with plants including poison ivy. Her grave had been in a
similar state (a long story not to be told here) when I began paying
for it to be cleared and looked after.

When I first made contact with the office at Baron Hirsch I was told
that a geneologist had been researching the names buried there and
discovered the name of my maternal great grandparents. No other
information was available and I asked for my details to be passed to
the genealogist for help with my research. She never replied. That was
5 years ago.

If any further information about the society is found I would be
grateful to know.

Regards,
Arlene Berman
Nottingham, England

Researching: GIMPLOWITZ, Ukraine; HELFMAN, Austria; BERMAN, Belarus;
FORMANSKY, Belarus


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re:Information about Independent Stanislaver Lodge Society #ukraine

ligeia23@...
 

<<<Lynn Troyansky Arroyo wrote:

Dear Henry,
You wrote:

Has anyone ever heard of a Society called Independent Stanislaver
Lodge. The last person who was the contact was a Arthur S Alfert. I
have two phone numbers of him but both seem to be not working anymore.

This was all I could come up with to try to help you. It does give the
town of origin for the society.

I found that if you call the cemetery, they usually have up to date
records for whoever is in charge of the society you are looking for and are
usually very cooperative......... >>>


My maternal grandmother is buried in Baron Hirsch Cemetery in Staten
Island, NY in the Independent Stanislauer Lodge section. The staff at
Baron Hirsch are helpful and I would be interested to know if Henry
finds a contact connected to this society.

I visited my grandmother's grave in September and many of the graves
in that area are quite old (many date back to the early 20th century)
and overgrown with plants including poison ivy. Her grave had been in a
similar state (a long story not to be told here) when I began paying
for it to be cleared and looked after.

When I first made contact with the office at Baron Hirsch I was told
that a geneologist had been researching the names buried there and
discovered the name of my maternal great grandparents. No other
information was available and I asked for my details to be passed to
the genealogist for help with my research. She never replied. That was
5 years ago.

If any further information about the society is found I would be
grateful to know.

Regards,
Arlene Berman
Nottingham, England

Researching: GIMPLOWITZ, Ukraine; HELFMAN, Austria; BERMAN, Belarus;
FORMANSKY, Belarus


Do you need help with Yiddish translations? #ukraine

Kenneth Browne <kbrowne@...>
 

x-posted to Ukraine SIG and Ger-Pol-Volhynia lists

I've often noted requests for translations >from Yiddish and other
languages. I had a two page letter posted on Viewmate and never got a
full translation, but through the National Yiddish Book Store in
Amherst, MA I obtained a four page list of translators living in many
states and outside the U.S. I contacted one who lived near me (in case I
needed to bring the original document) and got a good result.

I would gladly send a copy of the list of translators (in MS Word
format) to anyone who might need it. Many translators have email links
and telephone listings. It would be up to the recipient to contact and
make whatever arrangements suit their needs.

I can trace my taglines back 8 generations
Ken Browne
clacking the keys in olde Sturbridge village, MA

Moderator Comment: PLEASE RESPOND PRIVATELY.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Do you need help with Yiddish translations? #ukraine

Kenneth Browne <kbrowne@...>
 

x-posted to Ukraine SIG and Ger-Pol-Volhynia lists

I've often noted requests for translations >from Yiddish and other
languages. I had a two page letter posted on Viewmate and never got a
full translation, but through the National Yiddish Book Store in
Amherst, MA I obtained a four page list of translators living in many
states and outside the U.S. I contacted one who lived near me (in case I
needed to bring the original document) and got a good result.

I would gladly send a copy of the list of translators (in MS Word
format) to anyone who might need it. Many translators have email links
and telephone listings. It would be up to the recipient to contact and
make whatever arrangements suit their needs.

I can trace my taglines back 8 generations
Ken Browne
clacking the keys in olde Sturbridge village, MA

Moderator Comment: PLEASE RESPOND PRIVATELY.


Lodz Cemetery #lodz #poland

Nicki Chodnoff - On The Go Publishing <nicki@...>
 

I've hit a stumbling block. I've been trying to find my grandparents (Wolf
and Hudes Rozental) grave sites in the new Lodz Jewish cemetery.

I know Wolf and Hudes are buried there. My aunt told me that directly after
the war she visited her father's grave (Wolf). Wolf died in the Lodz Ghetto
in 1942. He was prominent in his synagogue in Lodz and after the war the
remaining synogague members secured a grave and put up a headstone.

My grandmother, who also died in the Lodz Ghetto in 1942, is buried in the
Ghetto Field, so my aunt couldn't find the exact location.

I've searched the Lodz cemetery database online at
http://www.jewishlodzcemetery.org and couldn't find their names. However,
only a small portion of the people buried in the cemetery are listed so far.

I've contacted the Jewish Community of Lodz and asked about my grandparents
graves and their location. They responded that neither of my grandparents
are buried in the cemetery, which I know is not true.

Is there a place where all the people buried in the cemetery are listed,
other than actually visiting the cemetery? Any and all suggestions on how to
proceed and find the burial spots will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Nicki Chodnoff
Columbus, Ohio
researching ROZENTAL >from Dabie, Lodz and Bialystock; ORCHAN >from Lodz,
Dabie and Poddebice; and PARZENCZEWSKA(SKI) >from Lodz and Ozorkow.

[MODERATOR NOTE: For information about the new Lodz Cemetery and where records
may be found, visit the Lodz ShtetLinks web site at
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lodz/newcem.htm .]


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Lodz Cemetery #lodz #poland

Nicki Chodnoff - On The Go Publishing <nicki@...>
 

I've hit a stumbling block. I've been trying to find my grandparents (Wolf
and Hudes Rozental) grave sites in the new Lodz Jewish cemetery.

I know Wolf and Hudes are buried there. My aunt told me that directly after
the war she visited her father's grave (Wolf). Wolf died in the Lodz Ghetto
in 1942. He was prominent in his synagogue in Lodz and after the war the
remaining synogague members secured a grave and put up a headstone.

My grandmother, who also died in the Lodz Ghetto in 1942, is buried in the
Ghetto Field, so my aunt couldn't find the exact location.

I've searched the Lodz cemetery database online at
http://www.jewishlodzcemetery.org and couldn't find their names. However,
only a small portion of the people buried in the cemetery are listed so far.

I've contacted the Jewish Community of Lodz and asked about my grandparents
graves and their location. They responded that neither of my grandparents
are buried in the cemetery, which I know is not true.

Is there a place where all the people buried in the cemetery are listed,
other than actually visiting the cemetery? Any and all suggestions on how to
proceed and find the burial spots will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Nicki Chodnoff
Columbus, Ohio
researching ROZENTAL >from Dabie, Lodz and Bialystock; ORCHAN >from Lodz,
Dabie and Poddebice; and PARZENCZEWSKA(SKI) >from Lodz and Ozorkow.

[MODERATOR NOTE: For information about the new Lodz Cemetery and where records
may be found, visit the Lodz ShtetLinks web site at
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lodz/newcem.htm .]


Professional Researcher in France #general

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Dear fellow JGenners,

I have been seeking documents of relevance to my family >from
France for several years without success. Letters and emails to
French archives, whether in English or French, have not been
answered. Thus, I would like to engage a professional researcher in
France who can help me get some of these records. The records I seek
would be >from several different regions of France -- >from the small
town of Neris-les-Bains (in Allier near Montlucon), >from Marseille,
from the region around Perpignan, and >from Drancy.
I would appreciate receiving recommendations about competent,
honest researchers in France who might be able to help me. Please
reply to tfweiss@mit.edu.

Thank you,
Tom Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@mit.edu

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


SEAGER/BERG/LEVI from Birmingham, UK #general

Jonathan Newman
 

Dear All,

Ada SEAGER, my great-grandfather's niece, married either Isaac BERG or Samuel
Joseph LEVI in Birmingham (England) in the September quarter of 1904.

I would be extremely interested to hear >from anyone who may be one of their
descendants or who knows anything about them.

Please respond privately.

Jonathan Newman,
Leeds, England
primpark@ntlworld.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Professional Researcher in France #general

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Dear fellow JGenners,

I have been seeking documents of relevance to my family >from
France for several years without success. Letters and emails to
French archives, whether in English or French, have not been
answered. Thus, I would like to engage a professional researcher in
France who can help me get some of these records. The records I seek
would be >from several different regions of France -- >from the small
town of Neris-les-Bains (in Allier near Montlucon), >from Marseille,
from the region around Perpignan, and >from Drancy.
I would appreciate receiving recommendations about competent,
honest researchers in France who might be able to help me. Please
reply to tfweiss@mit.edu.

Thank you,
Tom Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@mit.edu

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SEAGER/BERG/LEVI from Birmingham, UK #general

Jonathan Newman
 

Dear All,

Ada SEAGER, my great-grandfather's niece, married either Isaac BERG or Samuel
Joseph LEVI in Birmingham (England) in the September quarter of 1904.

I would be extremely interested to hear >from anyone who may be one of their
descendants or who knows anything about them.

Please respond privately.

Jonathan Newman,
Leeds, England
primpark@ntlworld.com


Re: Working Backwards from Certificate of Naturalization #general

Lisa Lepore <llepore@...>
 

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:09:42 UTC, pzavon@rochester.rr.com (Peter
Zavon) opined:

It is *not* correct to say that all naturalizations were performed in federal
court after 1906. Any court of record could perform naturalizations, and
many did. For example, the Supreme Court of New York County (Manhattan) has
a huge collection of massive bound volumes of naturalization records
performed by that court (a county court) - most of them after 1905.

After 1906 the court merely had to use forms specified by the Federal
government and to file a copy of the Petition for Naturalization with the
feds.
This is more like what I had understood. And the copies of the
Petitions are at NARA, so I could see them in Washington, once I can
define the date and court.

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel
Stan -

Please see my earlier message - Peter's information is correct, but
your conclusion that the copies are at NARA is not correct. The copies
were filed with the Bureau of Naturalization which is now the INS, and
you can request them with a Freedom of Information Act request.

NARA only has the documents of naturalizations that were performed in
the Federal courts.

Lisa
Mendon, MA


Certificate of Naturalization #general

Herb Derman <dermanh@...>
 

I have a copy of my father's Certificate issued in Bronx County Supreme
Court, NY in 1917. Perhaps this is an exception to the information that
the Certificates were issued in federal district courts after 1906.

Herb Derman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Working Backwards from Certificate of Naturalization #general

Lisa Lepore <llepore@...>
 

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:09:42 UTC, pzavon@rochester.rr.com (Peter
Zavon) opined:

It is *not* correct to say that all naturalizations were performed in federal
court after 1906. Any court of record could perform naturalizations, and
many did. For example, the Supreme Court of New York County (Manhattan) has
a huge collection of massive bound volumes of naturalization records
performed by that court (a county court) - most of them after 1905.

After 1906 the court merely had to use forms specified by the Federal
government and to file a copy of the Petition for Naturalization with the
feds.
This is more like what I had understood. And the copies of the
Petitions are at NARA, so I could see them in Washington, once I can
define the date and court.

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel
Stan -

Please see my earlier message - Peter's information is correct, but
your conclusion that the copies are at NARA is not correct. The copies
were filed with the Bureau of Naturalization which is now the INS, and
you can request them with a Freedom of Information Act request.

NARA only has the documents of naturalizations that were performed in
the Federal courts.

Lisa
Mendon, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Certificate of Naturalization #general

Herb Derman <dermanh@...>
 

I have a copy of my father's Certificate issued in Bronx County Supreme
Court, NY in 1917. Perhaps this is an exception to the information that
the Certificates were issued in federal district courts after 1906.

Herb Derman


Wielkie Oczy #general

Julia Koszewska <julia_koszewska@...>
 

I remember there are many people looking for relatives >from Wielkie Oczy.
I found in OPAC (online public acces cathalogue) of national polish
library a book written by Krzysztof Dawid Majus. Title is: "Wielkie Oczy =
Wjelkoèi = Veliki oèi". It was published in 2002 in Tel Aviv. 147 pages.
the history of Wielkie Oczy and bibliography. Maybe it can be helpful
in someone's research.
Julia, Poland.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Wielkie Oczy #general

Julia Koszewska <julia_koszewska@...>
 

I remember there are many people looking for relatives >from Wielkie Oczy.
I found in OPAC (online public acces cathalogue) of national polish
library a book written by Krzysztof Dawid Majus. Title is: "Wielkie Oczy =
Wjelkoèi = Veliki oèi". It was published in 2002 in Tel Aviv. 147 pages.
the history of Wielkie Oczy and bibliography. Maybe it can be helpful
in someone's research.
Julia, Poland.


Re: Working Backwards from Certificate of Naturalization #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

The copies of the Petitions that were filed with the federal government are
*not* at NARA, they are still under the control of Citizenship and Immigration
Service (formerly Immigration and Naturalization Service). To access them
you need to make a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request. You cannot
get personal, direct access.

What you find in various NARA Branch Archives (*not* in Washington) are mostly
records of Federal Courts that performed Naturalizations (i.e. the Petitions
and such that were filed in the courts' records, copies of which were sent
to Washington at the time they were created.) Since some naturalizations
were done by non-federal courts whose records were not deposited with NARA,
NARA Branches do not have records on All naturalizations. But what they do
have is usually indexed by surname and so reasonably easy to check, even
though they are organized first by court, and so not fully integrated.
Thosw indexes may also be available (they are on microfilm) through the
Mormons.

Peter Zavon

Penfield, NY

PZAVON@Rochester.rr.com


"Stan Goodman" <SPAM_FOILER@hashkedim.com> wrote


This is more like what I had understood. And the copies of the
Petitions are at NARA, so I could see them in Washington, once I can
define the date and court.

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel


Re: Working Backwards from Certificate of Naturalization #general

Adelle Gloger
 

Dear Genners,

Howie Axelrod < highwind1@comcast.net > wrote:

I have in hane a copy of my Grandfather's "Certificate of
Naturalization".
I am attempting to find his Mother's maiden name, but it is not on
this document. I believe that the actual filing certificate and
associated paperwork would have this. Is this correct?
There is a certificate number, a Petition number, and volume number on
the document. It was issued Albany, Albany County, NY, in 1920.
What is easiet route to get the filing paperwork asssociated with
this?
** Albany County, NY has a naturalization index online. This is for
Albany County only. There is also a printable form to request information. The
website is:

http://www.albanycounty.com/departments/achor/naturalizationindexes.asp?id=856


Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Cleveland, Ohio
agloger@aol.com