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Pronounciation of Gisella
#general
Judy Young <jy-abcd@...>
Re Judy Segal's question about the pronounciation of Gisella: actually the
Hungarian version of the name is usually Gizella and it is indeed pronounced as Judy thought, just as it is written, where the G is hard as in Girl and the z is like English zero. I have not come across the nickname "Katie" for Gizella (and did not see the discussion in H-sig); normally the nickname for it is Gizi. It could be that your mother remembers it said like that >from childhood as you suggest (just a personal preference, not explainable by normal usage). (Or could it be that there was a Latin American connection where the s or z would sound more like an h?) I assume you have asked your mother why she pronounces it like that? Judy Young Drache Ottawa, E-mail: jy-abcd@cyberus.ca
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Pronounciation of Gisella
#general
Judy Young <jy-abcd@...>
Re Judy Segal's question about the pronounciation of Gisella: actually the
Hungarian version of the name is usually Gizella and it is indeed pronounced as Judy thought, just as it is written, where the G is hard as in Girl and the z is like English zero. I have not come across the nickname "Katie" for Gizella (and did not see the discussion in H-sig); normally the nickname for it is Gizi. It could be that your mother remembers it said like that >from childhood as you suggest (just a personal preference, not explainable by normal usage). (Or could it be that there was a Latin American connection where the s or z would sound more like an h?) I assume you have asked your mother why she pronounces it like that? Judy Young Drache Ottawa, E-mail: jy-abcd@cyberus.ca
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BURSTEEN in Argentina
#general
Solna K. (Kandi) Wasser <skwasser@...>
Just became aware that one of my paternal grandmother's brothers Leon
BURSTEEN, born about 1889 in Peroslov, settled in Buenos Aires. Any tips on where to start researching? His parents were Israel and Henny Edith PASCHEN. I have no further information on whom he married or children's names. One brother of this family (6 known siblings) settled in Philadelphia where they came into this country.....the rest moved on to Chicago Thank You for your time now and so much helpfulness in the past. Kandi Wasser New York, USA Researching: Piser/Pizer, Posisky, Pausisky, >from Virbaln Corush and Getz >from Bialystok Cohen/Kane, Elkin, Bursteen/Burstein/Burnstein and Paschen >from Charkov near Kiev to Philadelphia then Chicago
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BURSTEEN in Argentina
#general
Solna K. (Kandi) Wasser <skwasser@...>
Just became aware that one of my paternal grandmother's brothers Leon
BURSTEEN, born about 1889 in Peroslov, settled in Buenos Aires. Any tips on where to start researching? His parents were Israel and Henny Edith PASCHEN. I have no further information on whom he married or children's names. One brother of this family (6 known siblings) settled in Philadelphia where they came into this country.....the rest moved on to Chicago Thank You for your time now and so much helpfulness in the past. Kandi Wasser New York, USA Researching: Piser/Pizer, Posisky, Pausisky, >from Virbaln Corush and Getz >from Bialystok Cohen/Kane, Elkin, Bursteen/Burstein/Burnstein and Paschen >from Charkov near Kiev to Philadelphia then Chicago
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Tombstone dilemma solved!
#general
Judith Romney Wegner
Dear Stewart,
Re your tombstone inscription at http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html, thanks are due to Nick Landau's suggestion to me for reading the "blurred" letters. He suggested they might be tet-aleph-gimel (meaning "day"). That makes very good sense, because now we have the reading: "gestorben 15 Tag in H. Heshvan 1930". So now I would guess that " H." is an abbreviation for the Hebrew word hodesh, meaning month, and the inscription means "died 15th day of the month Heshvan 1930." 15th Heshvan in the year 1930 corresponded with November 6. This is a good example of the value of teamwork, and (as the moderator suggested) this time it actually paid off that we discussed the inscription in the group as a whole! Thank you again, Nick! Judith Romney Wegner MODERATOR NOTE: And thank you Judith, and Ury, for finishing this up.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tombstone dilemma solved!
#general
Judith Romney Wegner
Dear Stewart,
Re your tombstone inscription at http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html, thanks are due to Nick Landau's suggestion to me for reading the "blurred" letters. He suggested they might be tet-aleph-gimel (meaning "day"). That makes very good sense, because now we have the reading: "gestorben 15 Tag in H. Heshvan 1930". So now I would guess that " H." is an abbreviation for the Hebrew word hodesh, meaning month, and the inscription means "died 15th day of the month Heshvan 1930." 15th Heshvan in the year 1930 corresponded with November 6. This is a good example of the value of teamwork, and (as the moderator suggested) this time it actually paid off that we discussed the inscription in the group as a whole! Thank you again, Nick! Judith Romney Wegner MODERATOR NOTE: And thank you Judith, and Ury, for finishing this up.
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Re: Tombstoner
#general
Ury Link
Dear Genners,
The mystery of the date on the tomb stone is not a mystery, You must to read it as: On the 15 day of the month Cheswan. (Gestorben 15 Tag in C' Cheshwan) The word after the digit 15 is Tag (Teit - Alef - Gimel) and it mean a day. The letter Cheit is a shortening of the word Chodesh what mean a month. So this man is die on 6 November 1930 from my experience I know that this text is usual on some tombstonesBest regards Ury Link Amsterdam Holland http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html 1930, but he month is blurred in this photograph and hard to read.The date is a bit of a mystery; it says 15th of something or other It looks like mem aleph bet, which could stand for the Hebrew month Menahem-Av (which is the full name of the month of Av). If so, this corresponded with August 9th in 1930. But the next line seems to contradict that date, it appears to say 8th Heshvan (which corresponded with 30th October in 1930). I can't explain this discrepancy, does anyone have any ideas?>>
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:Tombstoner
#general
Ury Link
Dear Genners,
The mystery of the date on the tomb stone is not a mystery, You must to read it as: On the 15 day of the month Cheswan. (Gestorben 15 Tag in C' Cheshwan) The word after the digit 15 is Tag (Teit - Alef - Gimel) and it mean a day. The letter Cheit is a shortening of the word Chodesh what mean a month. So this man is die on 6 November 1930 from my experience I know that this text is usual on some tombstonesBest regards Ury Link Amsterdam Holland http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html 1930, but he month is blurred in this photograph and hard to read.The date is a bit of a mystery; it says 15th of something or other It looks like mem aleph bet, which could stand for the Hebrew month Menahem-Av (which is the full name of the month of Av). If so, this corresponded with August 9th in 1930. But the next line seems to contradict that date, it appears to say 8th Heshvan (which corresponded with 30th October in 1930). I can't explain this discrepancy, does anyone have any ideas?>>
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Tamar Amit <tamar.amit@...>
Hi,
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I would be grateful if someone can send me the details on: "Becker, Gert 233 Becker, Julius 102, 168, 208, 209" Thanks, Tamar Amit ISRAEL
On 6/6/06, Danzig SIG digest <danzig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
DANZIG Digest for Monday, June 05, 2006.
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Tamar Amit <tamar.amit@...>
Hi,
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I would be grateful if someone can send me the details on: "Becker, Gert 233 Becker, Julius 102, 168, 208, 209" Thanks, Tamar Amit ISRAEL
On 6/6/06, Danzig SIG digest <danzig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
DANZIG Digest for Monday, June 05, 2006.
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Re: Lithuanian Jews in Sweden
#scandinavia
Elsebeth Paikin
You are right: Many Jews lived for a shorter or longer period
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in Scandinavia (mostly Sweden or Denmark) until they had saved enough money for the fare to America. Many moved around >from Sweden to Denmark or vice versa simply staying where there was work to be had. So I suggest that you give us some more detailed information: Names, dates, occupations, etc. Then we might be able to help you. Best regards Elsebeth Elsebeth Paikin, President Jewish Genealogical Society of Denmark: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-denmark/ & SIG Coordinator and webmaster: JewishGen's Scandinavia SIG http://www.jewishgen.org/scandinavia/ mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk
At 14:22 29-05-2006, you wrote:
My great grandfather came to America in 1886. He was
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Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia Re: Lithuanian Jews in Sweden
#scandinavia
Elsebeth Paikin
You are right: Many Jews lived for a shorter or longer period
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in Scandinavia (mostly Sweden or Denmark) until they had saved enough money for the fare to America. Many moved around >from Sweden to Denmark or vice versa simply staying where there was work to be had. So I suggest that you give us some more detailed information: Names, dates, occupations, etc. Then we might be able to help you. Best regards Elsebeth Elsebeth Paikin, President Jewish Genealogical Society of Denmark: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-denmark/ & SIG Coordinator and webmaster: JewishGen's Scandinavia SIG http://www.jewishgen.org/scandinavia/ mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk
At 14:22 29-05-2006, you wrote:
My great grandfather came to America in 1886. He was
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If you want information / help!
#scandinavia
Elsebeth Paikin
Dear Scand-genners!
I have noticed that many have subscribed to this list recently and I want to welcome all! However, very few *USE* this list: ---------------------------------- 1. Very few write about their research or ask for information 2. Almost none of the new subscribers write and introductory message about the names and places they are researching. In that way we are all sitting in a little hole without a view to the greater world or research. If we want to help each other and/or get in contact with others who are researching the same areas or names we *must* communicate. I have seen subscribers come and go without ever writing one single message. And when I have contacted them some say that there is no point in being subscribed to list where there is nothing going on - that can't help them! I know very well that the situation is different in some other (large) mailing lists where there are several messages each day, so you can just lean back and learn a lot >from just reading what others write. But that is not the case when subscribed to small mailing lists (or rather mailing lists for small areas). Another thing: Even though you might have sent your "Intro" when you subscribed, you should re-send it at intervals, because some unsubscribe and new subscribers join the list. And very few use the archive to see if anything has been written there of interest. So send an introductory message about your research and let's get this mailing list go live! Best regards Elsebeth Paikin, President Jewish Genealogical Society of Denmark: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-denmark/ & SIG Coordinator and webmaster: JewishGen's Scandinavia SIG http://www.jewishgen.org/scandinavia/ mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk
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Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia If you want information / help!
#scandinavia
Elsebeth Paikin
Dear Scand-genners!
I have noticed that many have subscribed to this list recently and I want to welcome all! However, very few *USE* this list: ---------------------------------- 1. Very few write about their research or ask for information 2. Almost none of the new subscribers write and introductory message about the names and places they are researching. In that way we are all sitting in a little hole without a view to the greater world or research. If we want to help each other and/or get in contact with others who are researching the same areas or names we *must* communicate. I have seen subscribers come and go without ever writing one single message. And when I have contacted them some say that there is no point in being subscribed to list where there is nothing going on - that can't help them! I know very well that the situation is different in some other (large) mailing lists where there are several messages each day, so you can just lean back and learn a lot >from just reading what others write. But that is not the case when subscribed to small mailing lists (or rather mailing lists for small areas). Another thing: Even though you might have sent your "Intro" when you subscribed, you should re-send it at intervals, because some unsubscribe and new subscribers join the list. And very few use the archive to see if anything has been written there of interest. So send an introductory message about your research and let's get this mailing list go live! Best regards Elsebeth Paikin, President Jewish Genealogical Society of Denmark: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-denmark/ & SIG Coordinator and webmaster: JewishGen's Scandinavia SIG http://www.jewishgen.org/scandinavia/ mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk
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EPSTEIN Family Y-DNA Study
#belarus
Itzhak Epstein
Several EPSTEINs have joined in a Family Tree DNA JewishGen surname project.
Painless mouth swab genetic testing procedures are being used as a promising tool for breaking through our genealogical brick walls. It might help you to greatly expand your family tree, and may also help our surname project. So far, most of the project's members' recent direct male ancestors are >from Belarus or nearby areas in Poland, Lithuania, and the Ukraine. A rough count of JewishGen Family Finder listings for southwestern Belarus indicates that EPSTEIN is the third most frequently researched surname -- just behind KAPLAN and LEVINE, and just ahead of LIFSHITZ and GOLDBERG. We have identified members of one paternal lineage that has borne the Epstein surname for several centuries. There are hints of another old line. Most of the project's current members, however, are patrilineally unrelated to each other. In addition, most of us have discovered patrilineal relationships to men whose surnames are not Epstein. We are working on identifying the various branches of our principal cluster, on exploring additional clusters, and on connecting our unrelated members to cousins. To accomplish these goals and to create as broad a search as possible, we need more male Epsteins to contribute a cheek swab as a DNA sample. If you are female EPSTEIN or an EPSTEIN through female ancestors, a sample >from an EPSTEIN male relative can represent your family in the test. If you are not an EPSTEIN, please share this message with EPSTEINs who may want to participate in this project. To join, go to http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=3DR56553&;special=3Dtrue The basic, and most affordable, twelve marker test will indicate to whom you are probably related. The more advanced tests could help to identify closer and more certain relationships. You can start with the 12 marker test and add to it at a later date, using the same sample. If you have any questions, please contact Marsha Epstein, our project's volunteer administrator at mailto:epsteindna_admin@earthlink.net Itzhak Epstein New York, NY mailto:iegen@earthlink.net
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Belarus SIG #Belarus EPSTEIN Family Y-DNA Study
#belarus
Itzhak Epstein
Several EPSTEINs have joined in a Family Tree DNA JewishGen surname project.
Painless mouth swab genetic testing procedures are being used as a promising tool for breaking through our genealogical brick walls. It might help you to greatly expand your family tree, and may also help our surname project. So far, most of the project's members' recent direct male ancestors are >from Belarus or nearby areas in Poland, Lithuania, and the Ukraine. A rough count of JewishGen Family Finder listings for southwestern Belarus indicates that EPSTEIN is the third most frequently researched surname -- just behind KAPLAN and LEVINE, and just ahead of LIFSHITZ and GOLDBERG. We have identified members of one paternal lineage that has borne the Epstein surname for several centuries. There are hints of another old line. Most of the project's current members, however, are patrilineally unrelated to each other. In addition, most of us have discovered patrilineal relationships to men whose surnames are not Epstein. We are working on identifying the various branches of our principal cluster, on exploring additional clusters, and on connecting our unrelated members to cousins. To accomplish these goals and to create as broad a search as possible, we need more male Epsteins to contribute a cheek swab as a DNA sample. If you are female EPSTEIN or an EPSTEIN through female ancestors, a sample >from an EPSTEIN male relative can represent your family in the test. If you are not an EPSTEIN, please share this message with EPSTEINs who may want to participate in this project. To join, go to http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=3DR56553&;special=3Dtrue The basic, and most affordable, twelve marker test will indicate to whom you are probably related. The more advanced tests could help to identify closer and more certain relationships. You can start with the 12 marker test and add to it at a later date, using the same sample. If you have any questions, please contact Marsha Epstein, our project's volunteer administrator at mailto:epsteindna_admin@earthlink.net Itzhak Epstein New York, NY mailto:iegen@earthlink.net
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BLOOM, SHER, GLICKSMAN from Riga
#latvia
Jeremy Bloom <jeremy_bloom@...>
Note to ALL >from moderator:
Please remember to write all surnames in CAPITAL LETTERES! ********************************************************** I am researching the above family names who came >from Riga originally and settled in Manchester, UK in c.1880. The original spellings may be different >from those I have used above. In addition, I believe the original family name of the BLOOM's was SHER (or possible SCHER). BLOOM may have been taken >from a maternal line. I would be grateful if anyone who has any conections to the following could email me: 1. Nathan (Nissan) BLOOM, b. c.1855 in Riga. Father possibly called Michael (or variant) 2. Rebecca Tobe (nee SHER), b. c. 1860 3. Barnett BLOOM b. 1870s (father Isaac?) 4. Abraham (Alec) SHER, b Liverpool c 1900. Moved to Leeds. 5. Akeeva BLOOM. d Manchester c. 1938. Any information on these gratefully received. Jeremy Bloom (Leeds UK)
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Latvia SIG #Latvia BLOOM, SHER, GLICKSMAN from Riga
#latvia
Jeremy Bloom <jeremy_bloom@...>
Note to ALL >from moderator:
Please remember to write all surnames in CAPITAL LETTERES! ********************************************************** I am researching the above family names who came >from Riga originally and settled in Manchester, UK in c.1880. The original spellings may be different >from those I have used above. In addition, I believe the original family name of the BLOOM's was SHER (or possible SCHER). BLOOM may have been taken >from a maternal line. I would be grateful if anyone who has any conections to the following could email me: 1. Nathan (Nissan) BLOOM, b. c.1855 in Riga. Father possibly called Michael (or variant) 2. Rebecca Tobe (nee SHER), b. c. 1860 3. Barnett BLOOM b. 1870s (father Isaac?) 4. Abraham (Alec) SHER, b Liverpool c 1900. Moved to Leeds. 5. Akeeva BLOOM. d Manchester c. 1938. Any information on these gratefully received. Jeremy Bloom (Leeds UK)
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Re: ukraine digest: June 06, 2006
#ukraine
Anita <anitac47@...>
Subject: Field Guide to Visiting a Jewish CemeteryFor those who don't get the book but will go to cemeteries, I would like to add, and MOST importantly (I always warn of this) protection >from poison ivy. Long sleeves, pants tucked in socks, gloves, a vial of Dawn (the reaction to poison ivy is caused by an oil so any degreaser is a good idea). It stays on your clothing so be careful when removing same. Poison ivy can develop into way more than a rash. There was just a news story that global warming could be making it even more virulent. Regards, Anita Citron Hicksville, NY
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: ukraine digest: June 06, 2006
#ukraine
Anita <anitac47@...>
Subject: Field Guide to Visiting a Jewish CemeteryFor those who don't get the book but will go to cemeteries, I would like to add, and MOST importantly (I always warn of this) protection >from poison ivy. Long sleeves, pants tucked in socks, gloves, a vial of Dawn (the reaction to poison ivy is caused by an oil so any degreaser is a good idea). It stays on your clothing so be careful when removing same. Poison ivy can develop into way more than a rash. There was just a news story that global warming could be making it even more virulent. Regards, Anita Citron Hicksville, NY
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