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Re: Visit to Bialystok #poland

Bialystoker
 

Dear Aviva:

There is an English guidebook to Jewish Bialystok entitled
"Jewish Bialystok and Surroundings in Eastern Poland" by
Tomasz Wisniewski.

I would suggest that your son visit the Bagnowka Cemetery on
Wschodnia Street; the Muzeum Historyczne w Bialystok (The
Museum of the History of Bialystok) at ul. Warszawska 37;
the monument to the destruction of the Great Synagogue; the
Ghetto Cemetery on ul. Zabia, which is now a park with
monuments to the Ghetto fighters and martyrs; and walk
around the Ghetto area where many Jews lived before the War.

I hope your son's group will also be visiting Tykocin, where
the ca. 1650 Synagogue now serves as a regional Judaica
museum.

I hope he has a very interesting trip.

Mark Halpern

----- Original Message -----
My sons Yeshivah in Israel will be visiting Bialystok
soon and as my
parents ( now deceased ) came >from Bialystok I've been
asked to advise
of significant places of interest that the Boys could
visit on their
trip.

Could you help me in this regard.

Thank You

Aviva Greenberger
Melbourne , Australia

( searching the following family names Cycowicz &
Ostroburski )


Revier Fleisher and Reuven Fleisher #poland

Marcia Goldberg <marcia.fargotstein@...>
 

My mother told me that her paternal GGM arrived on a ship to Boston
on the day she was born. I realize that I don't know whether it was her
GF's mother or her GM's mother. I searched the manifests for four ships
that arrived within 5 days of my mother's birth. The Susquehanna lists
a Renvier Fleischer and a Feiga Rojtberg, so it could be either GGM.
That's assuming that Renvier is a woman's name. I have only seen the
name one other time. Does anyone know for sure that it is a woman's
name and the origin of it?

Frieda Celia Fleisher, my GGM, had a brother Reuven who had six
children: Sarah, Sam, Rita, Celia, Jack and Rachel (Rae). Sarah died
and her husband married a cousin who raised their son Edward whom I
know. Celia (Reich?) was the GM or GGM of Adam Rich of "Eight is
Enough." Jack had a daughter named Arlene and Rachel had a daughter
Cydel. I remember Reuven's wife as "Tante Fleisher" (Auntie Fleisher).
I actually met Arlene and Cydel in the 1960s, but do not know their
married names, and have lost track of all of Reuven's descendents except
for Edward Chakoff (of Cleveland, OH and now of California). The rest
lived in New York City.
Thank you.

Marcia Fargotstein Goldberg
Washington, DC
FARGOTSTEIN/FORGOTSON (Mariampole, Prienai), REITBERG/RAYTBORD
(Bialystok), FLEISHER (Bialystok), ZOBER/ISBER (Kovno or Slobodka),
GOLLOB (Bialystok)


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Re: Visit to Bialystok #poland

Bialystoker
 

Dear Aviva:

There is an English guidebook to Jewish Bialystok entitled
"Jewish Bialystok and Surroundings in Eastern Poland" by
Tomasz Wisniewski.

I would suggest that your son visit the Bagnowka Cemetery on
Wschodnia Street; the Muzeum Historyczne w Bialystok (The
Museum of the History of Bialystok) at ul. Warszawska 37;
the monument to the destruction of the Great Synagogue; the
Ghetto Cemetery on ul. Zabia, which is now a park with
monuments to the Ghetto fighters and martyrs; and walk
around the Ghetto area where many Jews lived before the War.

I hope your son's group will also be visiting Tykocin, where
the ca. 1650 Synagogue now serves as a regional Judaica
museum.

I hope he has a very interesting trip.

Mark Halpern

----- Original Message -----
My sons Yeshivah in Israel will be visiting Bialystok
soon and as my
parents ( now deceased ) came >from Bialystok I've been
asked to advise
of significant places of interest that the Boys could
visit on their
trip.

Could you help me in this regard.

Thank You

Aviva Greenberger
Melbourne , Australia

( searching the following family names Cycowicz &
Ostroburski )


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Revier Fleisher and Reuven Fleisher #poland

Marcia Goldberg <marcia.fargotstein@...>
 

My mother told me that her paternal GGM arrived on a ship to Boston
on the day she was born. I realize that I don't know whether it was her
GF's mother or her GM's mother. I searched the manifests for four ships
that arrived within 5 days of my mother's birth. The Susquehanna lists
a Renvier Fleischer and a Feiga Rojtberg, so it could be either GGM.
That's assuming that Renvier is a woman's name. I have only seen the
name one other time. Does anyone know for sure that it is a woman's
name and the origin of it?

Frieda Celia Fleisher, my GGM, had a brother Reuven who had six
children: Sarah, Sam, Rita, Celia, Jack and Rachel (Rae). Sarah died
and her husband married a cousin who raised their son Edward whom I
know. Celia (Reich?) was the GM or GGM of Adam Rich of "Eight is
Enough." Jack had a daughter named Arlene and Rachel had a daughter
Cydel. I remember Reuven's wife as "Tante Fleisher" (Auntie Fleisher).
I actually met Arlene and Cydel in the 1960s, but do not know their
married names, and have lost track of all of Reuven's descendents except
for Edward Chakoff (of Cleveland, OH and now of California). The rest
lived in New York City.
Thank you.

Marcia Fargotstein Goldberg
Washington, DC
FARGOTSTEIN/FORGOTSON (Mariampole, Prienai), REITBERG/RAYTBORD
(Bialystok), FLEISHER (Bialystok), ZOBER/ISBER (Kovno or Slobodka),
GOLLOB (Bialystok)


FRANKEL from SLATINA, Olt County Romania #romania

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Gayle Sherburne asked about the Jewish community of Slatina, Olt County and
FRANKEL >from there. The entry for Slatina in the 1924/1925 Romanian
business and organizational directory (volume II) at

http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.gdc/scd0001.20030122001ro.2

is on images 521-523. Levy FRENKEL appears at the top left of image 523.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Romania SIG #Romania FRANKEL from SLATINA, Olt County Romania #romania

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Gayle Sherburne asked about the Jewish community of Slatina, Olt County and
FRANKEL >from there. The entry for Slatina in the 1924/1925 Romanian
business and organizational directory (volume II) at

http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.gdc/scd0001.20030122001ro.2

is on images 521-523. Levy FRENKEL appears at the top left of image 523.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


Hugo Gold's bohemia book #austria-czech

Harvey Finberg <hjfinberg@...>
 

An informal group of AustriaCzech SIG members are preparing an EXCEL
spread sheet listing information ( language, number of pages, whether
there are illustrations) on each town in Hugo Gold's book on the Jews
of Bohemia. If you can help us ( a little or a lot) please contact
Vera Finberg at hjfinberg@earthlink.net. It is not necessary to own
a copy of the book. It makes no difference where in the world you
are located, you can volunteer for this project.

Vera Finberg
Fairfax Va

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately regarding details of this project.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Hugo Gold's bohemia book #austria-czech

Harvey Finberg <hjfinberg@...>
 

An informal group of AustriaCzech SIG members are preparing an EXCEL
spread sheet listing information ( language, number of pages, whether
there are illustrations) on each town in Hugo Gold's book on the Jews
of Bohemia. If you can help us ( a little or a lot) please contact
Vera Finberg at hjfinberg@earthlink.net. It is not necessary to own
a copy of the book. It makes no difference where in the world you
are located, you can volunteer for this project.

Vera Finberg
Fairfax Va

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately regarding details of this project.


Re: Hugo Gold's Bohemia & Moravia books #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Vera Finberg writes: <Does anyone personally own either of these Hugo
Gold books and could Xerox the Table of contents for me?

I am especially interested in which entries are in Czech in the
Bohemia book. I understand the Moravia book is in German>.

Thanks to Susan Boyer - another fantastic volunteer - I have the
Bohemia book which has been of great help to me.

I must tell Vera, and everyone else though, that the contents give no
idea of the language of the chapters. Each chapter [and there are
about 253 chapters - two hundred and fifty three!] just has as a
title - the *place name*.

Finally there is a statistical chapter in Czech at the end
p. 729-733

The best approach would be to make an Excel file and then post the
results on our website:

Four columns: [unless you have any better suggestions?]

Title - author - brief comment re contents - language.

This is a big task and I am prepared to volunteer to start the ball
rolling by indexing the first 26 places letter A-B:

Adlerkosteletz > Bukowitz
Who will join me?

Any translation project would be massive and I cannot see how this
can realistically be done by us. I hope I am wrong. Perhaps a few
key places should be targeted first?

Celia Male [U.K.]


Re: Hugo Gold's Bohemia & Moravia books #austria-czech

Ruth Coman <ruth.coman@...>
 

Celia Male has suggested that it would be useful to prepare an Excel sheet
listing the chapters in the Hugo Gold Bohemia book.

I think this is an excellent way of taking this key project forward. We can
use the helpful listing of communities shown on the Austria Czech website.

I will be happy to do C-E (Caslau to Elbogen and approximately the same
number of entries as Celia has volunteered to undertake) and would like to
suggest a 5th column "Number of Pages".

Ruth Coman
London, England


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Hugo Gold's Bohemia & Moravia books #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Vera Finberg writes: <Does anyone personally own either of these Hugo
Gold books and could Xerox the Table of contents for me?

I am especially interested in which entries are in Czech in the
Bohemia book. I understand the Moravia book is in German>.

Thanks to Susan Boyer - another fantastic volunteer - I have the
Bohemia book which has been of great help to me.

I must tell Vera, and everyone else though, that the contents give no
idea of the language of the chapters. Each chapter [and there are
about 253 chapters - two hundred and fifty three!] just has as a
title - the *place name*.

Finally there is a statistical chapter in Czech at the end
p. 729-733

The best approach would be to make an Excel file and then post the
results on our website:

Four columns: [unless you have any better suggestions?]

Title - author - brief comment re contents - language.

This is a big task and I am prepared to volunteer to start the ball
rolling by indexing the first 26 places letter A-B:

Adlerkosteletz > Bukowitz
Who will join me?

Any translation project would be massive and I cannot see how this
can realistically be done by us. I hope I am wrong. Perhaps a few
key places should be targeted first?

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech RE: Hugo Gold's Bohemia & Moravia books #austria-czech

Ruth Coman <ruth.coman@...>
 

Celia Male has suggested that it would be useful to prepare an Excel sheet
listing the chapters in the Hugo Gold Bohemia book.

I think this is an excellent way of taking this key project forward. We can
use the helpful listing of communities shown on the Austria Czech website.

I will be happy to do C-E (Caslau to Elbogen and approximately the same
number of entries as Celia has volunteered to undertake) and would like to
suggest a 5th column "Number of Pages".

Ruth Coman
London, England


Re: IAJGS NY Conference Attendees - Lederer/Simon - Rakonitz, Bohemia #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Rolf Lederer [Toronto, Canada] has asked for his name to be added to
the list of attendees: Rolf, a very keen genealogist, has been a
long-time member of this SIG and you can see his last message from
2000 in the archives. Rolf is interested in LEDERER >from Prague and
Vienna.

His LEDERER family was originally called SIMON [<1791] and lived in
Rakonitz [Rakovnik}, Bohemia since the early 1700s, if not before.
Herschman SIMON [born in Rakonitz] and Barbara had a son Tobias.

I found this family in the 1793 census where I can see three sons and
three daughters: Another son, Hermann, was born in 1797. Luckily all
this tallies with the data Rolf has >from his Prague archives
research.

Census of Bohemia - 1793 Vol V Rakonitzer Kreis p 360
Thobias LEDERER [linen merchant] wife Fogele, belonging to the Schutz
of Hochlieben.

Sons: Simon, Markus 1786-1829; Isak {Hermann arrives in 1797]
Daughters: Beracha, Nathanna, Bela

Rolf has the girls' names as: Ricka, Nechama and Bella. Apparently
Hermann moved to Prague where he had two sons - Marcus and Theodore.

Intriguingly, I have found a widow - Ester SIMON - in the Rakonitzer
Kreis living with her son Abraham SCHEMANN [must have been SIMON!] in
Patek Herrschaft. She is the only SIMON in the Rakonitzer Kreis.
Abraham is quite a wealthy distiller, who has a private tutor
[Herzmann KAZ >from Kozewiz, Klein Polen] for his four sons and
daughter.

It would be wonderful if Rolf can find more links after this posting
and also in NY where the list of attendees now stands at 23.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech re: IAJGS NY Conference Attendees - Lederer/Simon - Rakonitz, Bohemia #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Rolf Lederer [Toronto, Canada] has asked for his name to be added to
the list of attendees: Rolf, a very keen genealogist, has been a
long-time member of this SIG and you can see his last message from
2000 in the archives. Rolf is interested in LEDERER >from Prague and
Vienna.

His LEDERER family was originally called SIMON [<1791] and lived in
Rakonitz [Rakovnik}, Bohemia since the early 1700s, if not before.
Herschman SIMON [born in Rakonitz] and Barbara had a son Tobias.

I found this family in the 1793 census where I can see three sons and
three daughters: Another son, Hermann, was born in 1797. Luckily all
this tallies with the data Rolf has >from his Prague archives
research.

Census of Bohemia - 1793 Vol V Rakonitzer Kreis p 360
Thobias LEDERER [linen merchant] wife Fogele, belonging to the Schutz
of Hochlieben.

Sons: Simon, Markus 1786-1829; Isak {Hermann arrives in 1797]
Daughters: Beracha, Nathanna, Bela

Rolf has the girls' names as: Ricka, Nechama and Bella. Apparently
Hermann moved to Prague where he had two sons - Marcus and Theodore.

Intriguingly, I have found a widow - Ester SIMON - in the Rakonitzer
Kreis living with her son Abraham SCHEMANN [must have been SIMON!] in
Patek Herrschaft. She is the only SIMON in the Rakonitzer Kreis.
Abraham is quite a wealthy distiller, who has a private tutor
[Herzmann KAZ >from Kozewiz, Klein Polen] for his four sons and
daughter.

It would be wonderful if Rolf can find more links after this posting
and also in NY where the list of attendees now stands at 23.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Birth, Death, Marriage Records #ukraine

Arnold Samlan
 

I have traced my family's roots to the town of Yarun (Ukraine) and
neighboring towns.

Can someone tell me whether it is possible to obtain birth, death or
marriage records >from that area, dating to the time period between
1880 - 1918?

Arnold D. Samlan

Researching: KOOPERMAN, SAMLAN, BROTHER, BRODER


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Birth, Death, Marriage Records #ukraine

Arnold Samlan
 

I have traced my family's roots to the town of Yarun (Ukraine) and
neighboring towns.

Can someone tell me whether it is possible to obtain birth, death or
marriage records >from that area, dating to the time period between
1880 - 1918?

Arnold D. Samlan

Researching: KOOPERMAN, SAMLAN, BROTHER, BRODER


Searching for a town #ukraine

Stephenson <graysgrandma@...>
 

I have the name of the town that my grandfather came from. The name was
translated >from my father's birth record and my grandfather's marriage
record in the Odessa Archives. I am unable to determine where the town is
located today, if it still exists.

Does anyone know of a person who specializes in Ukrainian geography that
could help me find this town?

Your help would be appreciated.
Barbara Stephenson
Athens, GA
USA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Searching for a town #ukraine

Stephenson <graysgrandma@...>
 

I have the name of the town that my grandfather came from. The name was
translated >from my father's birth record and my grandfather's marriage
record in the Odessa Archives. I am unable to determine where the town is
located today, if it still exists.

Does anyone know of a person who specializes in Ukrainian geography that
could help me find this town?

Your help would be appreciated.
Barbara Stephenson
Athens, GA
USA


Looking for Zabotinsky, Volkov, Gulinsky, Annapolsky, Lieberman, Livertovskij #ukraine

ALEX VOLKOV <volkoff@...>
 

Hi All!

I have already some of my homework done, and on many lines in my tree I
faced walls, in particular, a lot "dead-ends" are in Ukraine.
So here is my short wish list, please let me know if you have anything to
say about such last name in those certain places (if you have anything to say
about the very person I am looking for, that's even better!):

-- Name -- Place -- approx. year of certain activity

1. Yakov VOLKOV, Krivoy Rog, got son Aleksandr in 1895

2. Michael (possibly Moses, Moshe) ZABOTINSKY, place either Krivoy Rog or

Ekaterinoslav (now called Dnepropetrovsk), got daughter Galina in 1899

3. Israel GULINSKY, village Ratcevo (now called Ratceve), got son Shlema
(or Solomon) in 1881

4. Isaya ANNAPOLSKY, place either Chigirin or may be Novogeorgievsk, got
daughter Sarah in 1879

5. Yankel LIVERTOVSKIJ, Aleksandria, got daughter Faina in 1914

Thank you for reading my post!

Alex


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Looking for Zabotinsky, Volkov, Gulinsky, Annapolsky, Lieberman, Livertovskij #ukraine

ALEX VOLKOV <volkoff@...>
 

Hi All!

I have already some of my homework done, and on many lines in my tree I
faced walls, in particular, a lot "dead-ends" are in Ukraine.
So here is my short wish list, please let me know if you have anything to
say about such last name in those certain places (if you have anything to say
about the very person I am looking for, that's even better!):

-- Name -- Place -- approx. year of certain activity

1. Yakov VOLKOV, Krivoy Rog, got son Aleksandr in 1895

2. Michael (possibly Moses, Moshe) ZABOTINSKY, place either Krivoy Rog or

Ekaterinoslav (now called Dnepropetrovsk), got daughter Galina in 1899

3. Israel GULINSKY, village Ratcevo (now called Ratceve), got son Shlema
(or Solomon) in 1881

4. Isaya ANNAPOLSKY, place either Chigirin or may be Novogeorgievsk, got
daughter Sarah in 1879

5. Yankel LIVERTOVSKIJ, Aleksandria, got daughter Faina in 1914

Thank you for reading my post!

Alex