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Kurt and Erma SCHLESINGER Son Henry
#general
s_wiener@...
Melody, and all,
Renee's email got me to thinking about ACRIS - the NYC on-line city register for property transactions. I used the search feature for both Kurt and Henry Schlesinger. Some of the records have scanned images [a boon], some not. DOCUMENT ID: FT_1450008644845 Issued upon the death of Kurt SCHLESINGER, June 11, 1981. United States Certificate Discharging Property Subject to Estate Tax Lien [Form 792] Re: Estate of Kurt Schlesinger To Stanley Zucker, Esq. 401 Broadway New York, NY 10013 The second page has great detail about this particular asset and states at the end of the second paragraph "Being the same premises which were conveyed to the 59th Street Building Corporation by two deeds one by the Gerry Estates, Inc. dated January 14, 1929, recorded in New York County Register's Office January 16, 1929 in Liber. 3697 of Conveyances, page 224, and by the Doncourt Reality Company dated January 6, 1926 and recorded in said Register's office February 10, 1926 in Liber. 3522 of Conveyances, page 424. This should give you some real estate corporations to look into as well as the location in the [Library of] property conveyances for the City of New York. I haven't more time to investigate the other properties, although it appears that one "Goldome" is listed under both Kurt and Henry for different reasons at different times. <http://a836-acris.nyc.gov/Scripts/DocSearch.dll/PName> takes you to the search menu. Good luck, Shellie Wiener San Francisco, CA I received a wonderful idea to my posting yesterday about locating Kurt and Erma SCHLESINGER's son, Henry. I know that Kurt owned several properties in New York City and that one of the partners was an attorney. It was suggested that they probably incorporated. snip....
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kurt and Erma SCHLESINGER Son Henry
#general
s_wiener@...
Melody, and all,
Renee's email got me to thinking about ACRIS - the NYC on-line city register for property transactions. I used the search feature for both Kurt and Henry Schlesinger. Some of the records have scanned images [a boon], some not. DOCUMENT ID: FT_1450008644845 Issued upon the death of Kurt SCHLESINGER, June 11, 1981. United States Certificate Discharging Property Subject to Estate Tax Lien [Form 792] Re: Estate of Kurt Schlesinger To Stanley Zucker, Esq. 401 Broadway New York, NY 10013 The second page has great detail about this particular asset and states at the end of the second paragraph "Being the same premises which were conveyed to the 59th Street Building Corporation by two deeds one by the Gerry Estates, Inc. dated January 14, 1929, recorded in New York County Register's Office January 16, 1929 in Liber. 3697 of Conveyances, page 224, and by the Doncourt Reality Company dated January 6, 1926 and recorded in said Register's office February 10, 1926 in Liber. 3522 of Conveyances, page 424. This should give you some real estate corporations to look into as well as the location in the [Library of] property conveyances for the City of New York. I haven't more time to investigate the other properties, although it appears that one "Goldome" is listed under both Kurt and Henry for different reasons at different times. <http://a836-acris.nyc.gov/Scripts/DocSearch.dll/PName> takes you to the search menu. Good luck, Shellie Wiener San Francisco, CA I received a wonderful idea to my posting yesterday about locating Kurt and Erma SCHLESINGER's son, Henry. I know that Kurt owned several properties in New York City and that one of the partners was an attorney. It was suggested that they probably incorporated. snip....
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Re: musician Leopold GODOWSKY
#lithuania
Eilat Gordin Levitan
Marion H. Bernstein asked if Shoshli (town of birth for Leopold
GODOWSKY) was same as Zasliai from his online biography:Leopold Godowsky (born on 13 February, 1870) to Anna and Dr. Matthew Godowsky, in Sozly, a little town not far >from Vilna ... I think it is 37 miles NNW of Vilnius , known as Shesholi/ Sesuoliai/ Sheshol / Sheshvil/ Szeszole/ Soshly When Leoplod was less then two years old, the father passed away and Leopold and his mother moved 9 miles away to Shirvinty (Sirvintos, Lithuania). In all his records Leopold put his birth place as "Vilna" Russia pre 1920 / Poland after 1920 Leopold died in 1938. There are many records to be found online (since Leopold traveled around the world to give concerts), including a few passport applications. Leoplds' son Leopold Saxe Godowsky, Jr. (May 27, 1900 - February 18, 1983, his mothers' maiden name was Saxe) married Frances Gershwin (December 26, 1906, Manhattan, New York - January 18, 1999) the sister of Goerge and Ira Gershwin. Their children: Alexis Gershwin, Leopold Godowsky III, Georgia Keidan and Nadia Natali. Thanks, Eilat Gordin Levitan On Thu, Mar 6, 2008, Marion & Henry Bernstein <hlb@texas.net> wrote: I am trying to prove a connection between my husband's GODOFSKY
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: musician Leopold GODOWSKY
#lithuania
Eilat Gordin Levitan
Marion H. Bernstein asked if Shoshli (town of birth for Leopold
GODOWSKY) was same as Zasliai from his online biography:Leopold Godowsky (born on 13 February, 1870) to Anna and Dr. Matthew Godowsky, in Sozly, a little town not far >from Vilna ... I think it is 37 miles NNW of Vilnius , known as Shesholi/ Sesuoliai/ Sheshol / Sheshvil/ Szeszole/ Soshly When Leoplod was less then two years old, the father passed away and Leopold and his mother moved 9 miles away to Shirvinty (Sirvintos, Lithuania). In all his records Leopold put his birth place as "Vilna" Russia pre 1920 / Poland after 1920 Leopold died in 1938. There are many records to be found online (since Leopold traveled around the world to give concerts), including a few passport applications. Leoplds' son Leopold Saxe Godowsky, Jr. (May 27, 1900 - February 18, 1983, his mothers' maiden name was Saxe) married Frances Gershwin (December 26, 1906, Manhattan, New York - January 18, 1999) the sister of Goerge and Ira Gershwin. Their children: Alexis Gershwin, Leopold Godowsky III, Georgia Keidan and Nadia Natali. Thanks, Eilat Gordin Levitan On Thu, Mar 6, 2008, Marion & Henry Bernstein <hlb@texas.net> wrote: I am trying to prove a connection between my husband's GODOFSKY
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Ha-aretz genealogy service
#lithuania
Eitan Levy <moranl@...>
The article 'Haaretz.com launches innovative Jewish genealogy
service' in today's online version of the English edition of the Israel Haaretz newspaper may be of interest to Litvaksiggers. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/961288.html Eitan Levy
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Ha-aretz genealogy service
#lithuania
Eitan Levy <moranl@...>
The article 'Haaretz.com launches innovative Jewish genealogy
service' in today's online version of the English edition of the Israel Haaretz newspaper may be of interest to Litvaksiggers. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/961288.html Eitan Levy
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Haaretz.com launches innovative Jewish genealogy service
#poland
ellen moshenberg
Haaretz.com launches innovative Jewish genealogy service
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/961288.html Ellen Moshenberg
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JRI Poland #Poland Haaretz.com launches innovative Jewish genealogy service
#poland
ellen moshenberg
Haaretz.com launches innovative Jewish genealogy service
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/961288.html Ellen Moshenberg
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Re: last Name: SACHER
#ukraine
Avi K. <u.sisraeli@...>
Dear Mr. Cohen; Genenrs, ]
As a linguist who's into multiple languages I can't help but write this: Sacher sounds so closely-related to Zacher (the Romanian word for : Sugar). Also, in German, the word: Zucker (pronounced: Tsuker) means same. It would also make sense on a geographical level (with Russia borering Romania & occupying part of its land-which changes hands back & forth-i.e: Bessarabia or better known as modern-day Moldavia). Germany has also ruled portions of Romania & has had a significant cultural history & influence over the Russian life, as well as, some of its citizens living in Russia! So, this name would be like the last name: Sugarman (Zuckerman) without the man...! Bottom line: it sounds like a Romanized German name "transferred" (migrating) to Russia (or, passively "getting there" without doing much of anything-just by virtue of changing/redrafting or rezoning of borders, after the world wars). Personally, I do not think that this last name is an abbreviation of anything. The only name that comes to mind (& do not know if it is Jewsih)-which may sound a longer version of Sacher is: Sacharov/Sacharoff. Avishalom (Avi) Klammer from Bat-Yam, Israel to Oakland, CA, U.S.A.With Klammer roots in Iasi, Romania, Austria/Austo-Hungary (?!?) & Levitt roots in Moldova/Bessarabia & Ukraine (Moghilov/Moghilev Podolsk/ Attaki/Ottaki & Soroki/Soroka)
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Dymer near Ukraine; Dematoff
#ukraine
shirley@...
Dear Fellow researchers,
I have recently learned that my grandmother's family came to Chicago from Dymer [Dimer, Demir]. This town is not far >from Kiev, near thecross of the rivers Irpin and Dneiper. The family name is Dematoff [Dematov, etc] I am interested to contact others who have information about this area, or have come across this unusual Jewish surname. Dematoff women married MANDEL, KANTROWITZ/KANTER. thanks in advance, Shirley seeking: DEMATOFF, KANTROWITZ Chicago
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: last Name: SACHER
#ukraine
Avi K. <u.sisraeli@...>
Dear Mr. Cohen; Genenrs, ]
As a linguist who's into multiple languages I can't help but write this: Sacher sounds so closely-related to Zacher (the Romanian word for : Sugar). Also, in German, the word: Zucker (pronounced: Tsuker) means same. It would also make sense on a geographical level (with Russia borering Romania & occupying part of its land-which changes hands back & forth-i.e: Bessarabia or better known as modern-day Moldavia). Germany has also ruled portions of Romania & has had a significant cultural history & influence over the Russian life, as well as, some of its citizens living in Russia! So, this name would be like the last name: Sugarman (Zuckerman) without the man...! Bottom line: it sounds like a Romanized German name "transferred" (migrating) to Russia (or, passively "getting there" without doing much of anything-just by virtue of changing/redrafting or rezoning of borders, after the world wars). Personally, I do not think that this last name is an abbreviation of anything. The only name that comes to mind (& do not know if it is Jewsih)-which may sound a longer version of Sacher is: Sacharov/Sacharoff. Avishalom (Avi) Klammer from Bat-Yam, Israel to Oakland, CA, U.S.A.With Klammer roots in Iasi, Romania, Austria/Austo-Hungary (?!?) & Levitt roots in Moldova/Bessarabia & Ukraine (Moghilov/Moghilev Podolsk/ Attaki/Ottaki & Soroki/Soroka)
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Dymer near Ukraine; Dematoff
#ukraine
shirley@...
Dear Fellow researchers,
I have recently learned that my grandmother's family came to Chicago from Dymer [Dimer, Demir]. This town is not far >from Kiev, near thecross of the rivers Irpin and Dneiper. The family name is Dematoff [Dematov, etc] I am interested to contact others who have information about this area, or have come across this unusual Jewish surname. Dematoff women married MANDEL, KANTROWITZ/KANTER. thanks in advance, Shirley seeking: DEMATOFF, KANTROWITZ Chicago
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surname on marriage certificate - Toronto, Ca
#ukraine
Dear Genners,
I received >from the Office of the Registrar General in Ontario, Canada, the marriage certificate of cousin Golda. She was born in the Ukraine and immigrated to Toronto, Canada. My mother always told me that Golda immigrated together with her grandmother (my great-grandmother), what made me think that Golda´s parents remained in Ukraine. In the marriage certificate, Golda´s father is Aaron GUNTER and mother is Brana WHITE. I know that White is the surname my family adopted in Canada, for it was WATNICK in Ukraine. I expected to find Brana´s surname as Watnick, as I thought that she had remained in Ukraine. What a surprise! Since I received this marriage certificate, I started to search for Golda´s parents in Canada, with no success. Searched in JewishGen and A.ca. I have three questions: First: as Brana´s surname in the certificate is White, and not Watnick, does this necessarily mean that Brana did immigrate? Second: could Brana´s surname White be given in the marriage certificate even if she remained in Ukraine with surname Watnick? Third: have any of you ever heard of the Gunter family in Toronto, or know of any of their descendents? Also the White´s? Thank you for any help you may give. Please reply to: aizim@uol.com.br Eliana Aizim from Rio de Janeiro, Brazilvisit my Gurevich photo album: http:// www. geocities DOT com/elianaaizim/photo2.html Searching: AISEN, AIZEN, AISIN: Ukraine: Lugansk / Argentina; Brazil GUREVICH: Ukraine: Yuzovka today Donetsk / Brazil. WATNICK, WHITE : Ukraine: Peschanka / Canada: Toronto AVERBUCH: Ukraine: Zhabokrich / Brazil: Colonia Quatro Irmaos.
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine surname on marriage certificate - Toronto, Ca
#ukraine
Dear Genners,
I received >from the Office of the Registrar General in Ontario, Canada, the marriage certificate of cousin Golda. She was born in the Ukraine and immigrated to Toronto, Canada. My mother always told me that Golda immigrated together with her grandmother (my great-grandmother), what made me think that Golda´s parents remained in Ukraine. In the marriage certificate, Golda´s father is Aaron GUNTER and mother is Brana WHITE. I know that White is the surname my family adopted in Canada, for it was WATNICK in Ukraine. I expected to find Brana´s surname as Watnick, as I thought that she had remained in Ukraine. What a surprise! Since I received this marriage certificate, I started to search for Golda´s parents in Canada, with no success. Searched in JewishGen and A.ca. I have three questions: First: as Brana´s surname in the certificate is White, and not Watnick, does this necessarily mean that Brana did immigrate? Second: could Brana´s surname White be given in the marriage certificate even if she remained in Ukraine with surname Watnick? Third: have any of you ever heard of the Gunter family in Toronto, or know of any of their descendents? Also the White´s? Thank you for any help you may give. Please reply to: aizim@uol.com.br Eliana Aizim from Rio de Janeiro, Brazilvisit my Gurevich photo album: http:// www. geocities DOT com/elianaaizim/photo2.html Searching: AISEN, AIZEN, AISIN: Ukraine: Lugansk / Argentina; Brazil GUREVICH: Ukraine: Yuzovka today Donetsk / Brazil. WATNICK, WHITE : Ukraine: Peschanka / Canada: Toronto AVERBUCH: Ukraine: Zhabokrich / Brazil: Colonia Quatro Irmaos.
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Looking for JULIY (JULIUS?) DRIBINOWITSCH
#latvia
Robert Alexander René Dupuis <R.Dupuis@...>
I'm looking for:
Juliy DRIBINOWITSCH (b. ca. 1870 [in Riga/Latvia?], d. unknown). He was married since 1898 with Auguste (Gute) LISSNER-HIRSCHFELD (b. 1873 in Riga/Latvia, d. unknown, daughter of the technical director Nikolai /Elchone ARONOWITSCH LISSNER, named HIRSCHFELD and Charlotte /Slatte/ Sara ISAAKOVNA, nee KEILMANN). If anybody has documents/photos, etc. about my relative Juliy DRIBINOWITZ and his wife, please contact me. -- Robert Dupuis, Berlin/Germany Searching for KEILMANN, ISAKOWITZ, LISSNER-HIRSCHFELD, POROGOWD, MENDELSOHN, COHN, KARPEL, HOLLENDER, ZINNEMANN, PENN (all >from Latvia), KANTOROWITZ (>from Slonim/Belorus and Vilnius/Lithuania), JUNGIERMANN, SZTATLER (>from Olkusz/Poland), RAWITZ (>from Georgenburg near Vilnius/Lithuania); HIRSCH (>from Stallupoenen, Memel, Koenigsberg/ Germany), Josephy (>from Schwaan, Rosdtock/Germany)
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Latvia SIG #Latvia Looking for JULIY (JULIUS?) DRIBINOWITSCH
#latvia
Robert Alexander René Dupuis <R.Dupuis@...>
I'm looking for:
Juliy DRIBINOWITSCH (b. ca. 1870 [in Riga/Latvia?], d. unknown). He was married since 1898 with Auguste (Gute) LISSNER-HIRSCHFELD (b. 1873 in Riga/Latvia, d. unknown, daughter of the technical director Nikolai /Elchone ARONOWITSCH LISSNER, named HIRSCHFELD and Charlotte /Slatte/ Sara ISAAKOVNA, nee KEILMANN). If anybody has documents/photos, etc. about my relative Juliy DRIBINOWITZ and his wife, please contact me. -- Robert Dupuis, Berlin/Germany Searching for KEILMANN, ISAKOWITZ, LISSNER-HIRSCHFELD, POROGOWD, MENDELSOHN, COHN, KARPEL, HOLLENDER, ZINNEMANN, PENN (all >from Latvia), KANTOROWITZ (>from Slonim/Belorus and Vilnius/Lithuania), JUNGIERMANN, SZTATLER (>from Olkusz/Poland), RAWITZ (>from Georgenburg near Vilnius/Lithuania); HIRSCH (>from Stallupoenen, Memel, Koenigsberg/ Germany), Josephy (>from Schwaan, Rosdtock/Germany)
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Berlin minority census
#germany
Judith Diamond
I am asking for a friend who is going to Berlin shortly.
Is it possible to see the Berlin Minority census in Berlin? She has left it too late to order it in London >from the Mormons. Judith Diamond, UK <jrd@bjdiamond.plus.com>
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German SIG #Germany Berlin minority census
#germany
Judith Diamond
I am asking for a friend who is going to Berlin shortly.
Is it possible to see the Berlin Minority census in Berlin? She has left it too late to order it in London >from the Mormons. Judith Diamond, UK <jrd@bjdiamond.plus.com>
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Re: surname TOFF
#germany
MBernet@...
In a message dated 3/6/2008 8:26:10 P.M. Central Standard Time,
_buckidstein@aol.com_ (mailto:buckidstein@aol.com) writes: << In their dictionary "Etymologisches Lexikon der juedischen Familiennamen", E. and H. Guggenheimer write about two sources of this name. When used by Ashkenazic Jews, the forms TOFF (found in Italy) and Touff are a variation of the name Tov / Tow, which is derived >from Hebrew tov = good. The Arabic tawwaf = obedient servant (in modern Arabic wanderer, emigrant) became Toaff or Toef in Sephardic usage. >> ==Heinrich Guggenheimer is an amazing polymath, a past professor at (I think) Brooklyn Polytech of both mathematics and of Talmud. His onamastic work is, however, not held in the same regard. The English version of his Etymological Dictionary can be bought, used, for $283.50 >from a major online bookstore -- only one copy available. I do not own a copy, I have never seen a copy, and I don't expect to buy a copy. I have heard, however, that there are some serious errors in it. ==Toaff is an Italian Jewish name, a long line of rabbis and scholars >from Livorno, including Chief Rabbi Elio Toaff who greeted the late Pope on his visit to Rome's major synagogue about 10 years ago. Eli Toaff is a distinguished scholar of Italian Jewish history and son of the Chief Rabbi, who wrote most of the articles dealing with Italy in Encyc Jud. He is professor at Bar Ilan University. Recently got into very hot water bywriting a book in Italy in which he seemed to suggest that some of the old Catholic claims that Jews killed Christian children to use their blood for Passover rituals were based on reality [the book was subsequently withdrawn]. ==Only a relatively small portion of Italian Jews are of Sefardi heritage. The Toaffs were not Sefardim. ==The Tawaff Arabic oirigin of the Toff name is interesting. I know no Arabic Michael Bernet, New York mbernet@aol.com
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surname Toff
#germany
Margaret Fullarton and David Mark <fullmark@...>
Well, my ignorance has been lightened somewhat by you good people who have
assisted me both privately and through the list. I am now going to investigate further but it does seem, as you say, that Toff may well have come >from Tov. In fact a Dutch Toff told me that his name comes >from brothers who arrived in Holland, made some money and distributed it charitably and thus earned the name Tov/Toff. He has reverted to Tov since moving to Israel. So like you all, I shall search on. Many thanks. Margaret Fullarton Oaklands NSW Australia MODERATOR NOTE: Discussion of this topic is absolutely closed in this forum.
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