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Experiences at the The National Archives (UK) #general

Paul Silverstone
 

When I visited the National Archives in Kew last month, it seemed to
me that the number of staff had been diminished since my previous visit
over a year earlier. Before one can do any research one must obtain
a researcher's card. This required filling out a form (on a computer)
and then waiting for the person (only one the day I was there) to
process your application.There was a line of about 15 people waiting.
In the research room, personnel available for questions were few.
All in all this means more of your time is wasted waiting.
The facility is excellent, and the materials I ordered prior to my visit
were all taken out and ready. All documents can be scanned (20p each) and
the result is on a large paper (16" x 12").

This ensures what you take out is the copy and not the (smaller) original.
However, it is difficult to work with such large copies and I found it
necessary to reduce them to a workable size.

Paul Silverstone

Paul Silverstone
New York

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Experiences at the The National Archives (UK) #general

Paul Silverstone
 

When I visited the National Archives in Kew last month, it seemed to
me that the number of staff had been diminished since my previous visit
over a year earlier. Before one can do any research one must obtain
a researcher's card. This required filling out a form (on a computer)
and then waiting for the person (only one the day I was there) to
process your application.There was a line of about 15 people waiting.
In the research room, personnel available for questions were few.
All in all this means more of your time is wasted waiting.
The facility is excellent, and the materials I ordered prior to my visit
were all taken out and ready. All documents can be scanned (20p each) and
the result is on a large paper (16" x 12").

This ensures what you take out is the copy and not the (smaller) original.
However, it is difficult to work with such large copies and I found it
necessary to reduce them to a workable size.

Paul Silverstone

Paul Silverstone
New York

please reply to
paulh@...


Cemetery search in Ukraine: what to look for? #general

DrYattz <winwinsit@...>
 

My Ukrainian schoolteacher/researcher has found a Jewish woman in
Shargorod, Ukraine, who has agreed to send her son to the local Jewish
cemeteries and look for (and photograph) any headstones that might
belong to a Korenman (my wife's family's original surname). The last
burial probably occurred around 1920: that of her great grandmother,
Chaya Sara Korenman, the duaghter of Yosef. The great grandfather,
Yekhezkel Korenman, is known to have died in 1911. They had a
daughter, Miriam, born in 1889, who appears in no family documents or
memories, and likely died before 1911 (but we have no death record for
her).

I have been given the image of Yekhezkel's death record, which is in
Russian and Yiddish. I am posting this on ViewMate (which must be
opened in a seperate window to be seen clearly):

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16746

I'm told the Yiddish on the right states that he was Yekhezkel Ben Reb
Shalom Korenman, who died of "old age" at 62. So, we're looking for a
son of Shalom, Yekhezkel (I assume). I'm told that Jewish cemeteries
did not necessarily bury family members beside each other

I'm also posting an image >from the birth record of another Korenman
which shows how the surname was rendered:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16747

Here is info about the cemeteries:
http://www.iajgsjewishcemeteryproject.org/ukraine/shargorod.html
Apparently, most are in serious disrepair, so the task may prove
impossible. I've tried to contact anyone in Shargorod who might have
a diagram of the layout, showing who is buried where; apparently, that
kind of documentation is seldom done in Ukraine.

I would love to be able to send to the cemetery searcher something
that approximates the appearance of the characters on the headstone.
Even better, some idea of where to look. Any thoughts? Any
suggestions?

Rees Chapman
Dahlonega Georgia 30533
winwinsit@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cemetery search in Ukraine: what to look for? #general

DrYattz <winwinsit@...>
 

My Ukrainian schoolteacher/researcher has found a Jewish woman in
Shargorod, Ukraine, who has agreed to send her son to the local Jewish
cemeteries and look for (and photograph) any headstones that might
belong to a Korenman (my wife's family's original surname). The last
burial probably occurred around 1920: that of her great grandmother,
Chaya Sara Korenman, the duaghter of Yosef. The great grandfather,
Yekhezkel Korenman, is known to have died in 1911. They had a
daughter, Miriam, born in 1889, who appears in no family documents or
memories, and likely died before 1911 (but we have no death record for
her).

I have been given the image of Yekhezkel's death record, which is in
Russian and Yiddish. I am posting this on ViewMate (which must be
opened in a seperate window to be seen clearly):

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16746

I'm told the Yiddish on the right states that he was Yekhezkel Ben Reb
Shalom Korenman, who died of "old age" at 62. So, we're looking for a
son of Shalom, Yekhezkel (I assume). I'm told that Jewish cemeteries
did not necessarily bury family members beside each other

I'm also posting an image >from the birth record of another Korenman
which shows how the surname was rendered:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16747

Here is info about the cemeteries:
http://www.iajgsjewishcemeteryproject.org/ukraine/shargorod.html
Apparently, most are in serious disrepair, so the task may prove
impossible. I've tried to contact anyone in Shargorod who might have
a diagram of the layout, showing who is buried where; apparently, that
kind of documentation is seldom done in Ukraine.

I would love to be able to send to the cemetery searcher something
that approximates the appearance of the characters on the headstone.
Even better, some idea of where to look. Any thoughts? Any
suggestions?

Rees Chapman
Dahlonega Georgia 30533
winwinsit@...


Some illegal arrivals in Palestine March 1939 #general

Paul Silverstone
 

I have just come across an article listing the names of 17 persons
detained as illegal immigrants on the S.S. Artemissia, which
was arrested by Palestine Police on 6 Feb 1939.
210 other persons landed secretly on the beach the night before
and were not caught. These people originally sailed >from
Romania on the S.S. Katina or were rescued >from the wreck
of the S.S. Chepo.

The names may be of interest:

In the Palestine Post for 16 Mar 1939 the 17 Jews arrested on the
S.S. Artemissia as illegal immigrants were named:

Hans Loewy, 43, Herman Blabastein. 30, Ludwig Salub, 28
Richard Margaluib, 27, Shlomo Muller, 24, Paul Sekeilis, 38
Robert Nasservogel, 33, Otto Zwillinger, 38, Kurt Fischer, 20
Otto Klaessner, 33, Kurt Salus, 26, Georg Paul Taussig, 23
Dov Rosner, 20, Alex Marcus Bohn, 27, Max Bruckner-Siegmund, 27
Egon Shlomo Grunberger, 45, Max Luria, 23,

They were charged will illegal entry. They were later sentenced to 3
months imprisonment.

Paul Silverstone
New York

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Some illegal arrivals in Palestine March 1939 #general

Paul Silverstone
 

I have just come across an article listing the names of 17 persons
detained as illegal immigrants on the S.S. Artemissia, which
was arrested by Palestine Police on 6 Feb 1939.
210 other persons landed secretly on the beach the night before
and were not caught. These people originally sailed >from
Romania on the S.S. Katina or were rescued >from the wreck
of the S.S. Chepo.

The names may be of interest:

In the Palestine Post for 16 Mar 1939 the 17 Jews arrested on the
S.S. Artemissia as illegal immigrants were named:

Hans Loewy, 43, Herman Blabastein. 30, Ludwig Salub, 28
Richard Margaluib, 27, Shlomo Muller, 24, Paul Sekeilis, 38
Robert Nasservogel, 33, Otto Zwillinger, 38, Kurt Fischer, 20
Otto Klaessner, 33, Kurt Salus, 26, Georg Paul Taussig, 23
Dov Rosner, 20, Alex Marcus Bohn, 27, Max Bruckner-Siegmund, 27
Egon Shlomo Grunberger, 45, Max Luria, 23,

They were charged will illegal entry. They were later sentenced to 3
months imprisonment.

Paul Silverstone
New York

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Film footage of Vinnytsya/Winnica/Winnitza, Ukraine #ukraine

steve725@...
 

There are four or five new short films created by Tomek Wisniewski of
Bialystok. They are each interesting in their own right, and you will even
find video/archival footage within more than one, including film footage
from Deblin-Kazimierz nad Wisla-Pulawy and Mlawa, Poland (color yet >from
1941). Besides the towns represented above you will also find film of
Czestochowa. Also Tomek has created a film about Druya, Belarus, which used
to be Druja, Poland between the wars.

Of special interest to Ukraine researchers is a short film about Vinnytsya,
Ukraine. It is actual film footage shot in 1942. Though not filled with
scenes of Jewish interest per se, there aren't too many opportunities to see
such films, especially during wartime.

My main Tomek page listing links to now sixty-eight films can be found at
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/tomek/films.htm. The towns associated with
each film are listed alphabetically, so just scroll down to the link(s) of
interest to you. You will also find films about Chortkiv, Olyka and Zolochiv
all in today's Ukraine.


Regards,
Steven Lasky
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
blog: http://museumoffamilyhistory.blogspot.com
steve@...


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Film footage of Vinnytsya/Winnica/Winnitza, Ukraine #ukraine

steve725@...
 

There are four or five new short films created by Tomek Wisniewski of
Bialystok. They are each interesting in their own right, and you will even
find video/archival footage within more than one, including film footage
from Deblin-Kazimierz nad Wisla-Pulawy and Mlawa, Poland (color yet >from
1941). Besides the towns represented above you will also find film of
Czestochowa. Also Tomek has created a film about Druya, Belarus, which used
to be Druja, Poland between the wars.

Of special interest to Ukraine researchers is a short film about Vinnytsya,
Ukraine. It is actual film footage shot in 1942. Though not filled with
scenes of Jewish interest per se, there aren't too many opportunities to see
such films, especially during wartime.

My main Tomek page listing links to now sixty-eight films can be found at
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/tomek/films.htm. The towns associated with
each film are listed alphabetically, so just scroll down to the link(s) of
interest to you. You will also find films about Chortkiv, Olyka and Zolochiv
all in today's Ukraine.


Regards,
Steven Lasky
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
blog: http://museumoffamilyhistory.blogspot.com
steve@...


Negociant-Last posting #ukraine

Errol Schneegurt
 

Hi,
I would first like to thank the members that responded to my inquiry.

What I have found out in the process is that the use of the word in fact
relates in a general sense to a merchant. I would categorize it as a certain
type of merchant most often associated with wholesale activities.

I have never seen the word used and could not find it on the 1929 Lviv
business directory.

With the investigations I have done and the responses I have gotten in the
past few weeks has lead me to conclude that the origin of the word is
French and is associated with wine making. The Negoci(j)ant would collect
grapes >from many small vineyards resell them to wholesalers or directly to the
public. They would also produce their own wines using there name.

In my case I have reason to believe that it was connected to the making of
Kosher wines.
I know assumptions can cause problems!

Errol Schneegurt NY ESLVIV@...


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Negociant-Last posting #ukraine

Errol Schneegurt
 

Hi,
I would first like to thank the members that responded to my inquiry.

What I have found out in the process is that the use of the word in fact
relates in a general sense to a merchant. I would categorize it as a certain
type of merchant most often associated with wholesale activities.

I have never seen the word used and could not find it on the 1929 Lviv
business directory.

With the investigations I have done and the responses I have gotten in the
past few weeks has lead me to conclude that the origin of the word is
French and is associated with wine making. The Negoci(j)ant would collect
grapes >from many small vineyards resell them to wholesalers or directly to the
public. They would also produce their own wines using there name.

In my case I have reason to believe that it was connected to the making of
Kosher wines.
I know assumptions can cause problems!

Errol Schneegurt NY ESLVIV@...


Kovel Info #ukraine

john@...
 

Hi Bruce ... thanks for the info about Kovel data, I am sure folks will
enjoy that resource....

John, Polish Genealogical Society of MA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kovel Info #ukraine

john@...
 

Hi Bruce ... thanks for the info about Kovel data, I am sure folks will
enjoy that resource....

John, Polish Genealogical Society of MA


Re: Negociant #galicia

Brigitte Lemberger <bml@...>
 

Hi,

Negociant in French is a merchant not particularly in wholesale,

Brigitte Lemberger (London )


Fay Bussgang <@fbussgang>wrote:

My French dictionary gives the definition for "negociant" as
"wholesale merchant." Seems reasonable!


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Negociant #galicia

Brigitte Lemberger <bml@...>
 

Hi,

Negociant in French is a merchant not particularly in wholesale,

Brigitte Lemberger (London )


Fay Bussgang <@fbussgang>wrote:

My French dictionary gives the definition for "negociant" as
"wholesale merchant." Seems reasonable!


Researching HERRING Family #general

Joan Kramer
 

Hello,

I have an old photo of two brothers >from South Africa, inscribed on the
back: Nachman and Jonah/Yonah HERRING.. It was sent to my great-grandparents
some time after 1910, since that is when my great grandparents and all their
children were settled in Chicago. I do know that the HERRING family is
related to my MELER/MELLER, GORDON, MESSIE, ABRAMOVITCH, SHUR/SHURE, COHEN,
HURWITZ, RIFKIND, RUDEIS families, and I believe the connection is through my
great great grandmother, Shifra Ela/Elka (maiden name? ) MELER. I believe
her maiden name was either of the surnames above - most likely GORDON,
MESSIE, HERRING. Other connections are; RABINOWITZ, SHLAPOBERSKY/DAVIS,
RUBENSTEIN, TATZ, BERNSTEIN/BERENS.

Please contact me with any information, which will be much appreciated.

Joan Kramer
jpk400@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researching HERRING Family #general

Joan Kramer
 

Hello,

I have an old photo of two brothers >from South Africa, inscribed on the
back: Nachman and Jonah/Yonah HERRING.. It was sent to my great-grandparents
some time after 1910, since that is when my great grandparents and all their
children were settled in Chicago. I do know that the HERRING family is
related to my MELER/MELLER, GORDON, MESSIE, ABRAMOVITCH, SHUR/SHURE, COHEN,
HURWITZ, RIFKIND, RUDEIS families, and I believe the connection is through my
great great grandmother, Shifra Ela/Elka (maiden name? ) MELER. I believe
her maiden name was either of the surnames above - most likely GORDON,
MESSIE, HERRING. Other connections are; RABINOWITZ, SHLAPOBERSKY/DAVIS,
RUBENSTEIN, TATZ, BERNSTEIN/BERENS.

Please contact me with any information, which will be much appreciated.

Joan Kramer
jpk400@...


Re: Denial of Citizenship : "Want of pros." (Chicago) #general

Gladys Paulin
 

All,

I recommend you order a copy of the file >from the court or the
Regional Archives; the back side of the Petition should include the details.

Otherwise, one is just guessing what that judge meant and still
don't know the reason.

Gladys

Gladys Friedman Paulin, CG
Winter Springs, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Denial of Citizenship : "Want of pros." (Chicago) #general

Gladys Paulin
 

All,

I recommend you order a copy of the file >from the court or the
Regional Archives; the back side of the Petition should include the details.

Otherwise, one is just guessing what that judge meant and still
don't know the reason.

Gladys

Gladys Friedman Paulin, CG
Winter Springs, FL


Re Denial of Citizenship for Want of Prosecution #general

Sandy Malek
 

In the courts, dismissal for want of prosecution does not necessarily
mean that someone "gave up" on citizenship. It merely means that the
petitioner did not pursue the matter in a timely fashion.
That could be for many different reasons. It is the court's way of
clearing its docket of petitions that are not being pursued.

There are a number of such denials for want of prosecution that are
followed by petitions that were pursued to completion.

Even today, courts will dismiss cases that have been filed and not
actively pursued. If the statute of limitations has not expired,
the party is free to re-file the matter.

Sandy Malek
Los Angeles, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re Denial of Citizenship for Want of Prosecution #general

Sandy Malek
 

In the courts, dismissal for want of prosecution does not necessarily
mean that someone "gave up" on citizenship. It merely means that the
petitioner did not pursue the matter in a timely fashion.
That could be for many different reasons. It is the court's way of
clearing its docket of petitions that are not being pursued.

There are a number of such denials for want of prosecution that are
followed by petitions that were pursued to completion.

Even today, courts will dismiss cases that have been filed and not
actively pursued. If the statute of limitations has not expired,
the party is free to re-file the matter.

Sandy Malek
Los Angeles, CA