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names #ukraine

sportnoy48@...
 

Can anyone tell me what the Hebrew equivalent of the name Osias is?
And what is the meaning of the female name Machla?

Thank you.

Shirley Amcis Portnoy
Little Neck, NY

Researching:
AMCIS, AMCES, AMTZIS (and any other phonetic variations), SONENKLAR, and
SZAPIERA >from Okopy, Borszczow, Burdyakovtsy,
Czortkow, Ulaskowce, Mielnica ; REINSTEIN >from Okopy and Mielnica; PIDNACZYK
from ?; also HARKAVY, GARKAVY, GARKAWE, etc.
>from Grodno, Volkovisk, Skidel; GABOVITCH >from Skidel; YEZERSKI >from
Volkovisk; ZERSHTEIN and RIFKIND >from Grodno


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine names #ukraine

sportnoy48@...
 

Can anyone tell me what the Hebrew equivalent of the name Osias is?
And what is the meaning of the female name Machla?

Thank you.

Shirley Amcis Portnoy
Little Neck, NY

Researching:
AMCIS, AMCES, AMTZIS (and any other phonetic variations), SONENKLAR, and
SZAPIERA >from Okopy, Borszczow, Burdyakovtsy,
Czortkow, Ulaskowce, Mielnica ; REINSTEIN >from Okopy and Mielnica; PIDNACZYK
from ?; also HARKAVY, GARKAVY, GARKAWE, etc.
>from Grodno, Volkovisk, Skidel; GABOVITCH >from Skidel; YEZERSKI >from
Volkovisk; ZERSHTEIN and RIFKIND >from Grodno


Re: Confused about names #ukraine

pcohen@...
 

My great-grandfather, Sam Cohen, lived >from about 1850 - 1930. In 1898, his grandson Sam Cohen was born. Why was this OK? Because their English names are not their "names". My great grandfather's Hebrew name was Shraga Shlomo and my uncle Sam's Hebrew name was Zalmen. Neither one was named Shmuel, as you might expect >from "Sam".

Peter Cohen
Pleasanton, California

-----Original Message-----
From: MERYL RIZZOTTI <mrizzotti@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Oct 18, 2011 8:00 PM
To: Ukraine SIG <ukraine@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: [ukraine] Confused about names
Hello Genners:
I have been puzzled by what I consider a break in the Ashkenazi tradition of not
naming children after living relatives. I first discovered this in my Povlotsky
family >from Shpola, Ukraine. On the 1900 census my Great great grandfather,
Abraham was on the Philadelphia census living with my great grandfather and his
family. That family had changed the surname to Haas and my Great Great
grandfather was on the census as Abraham Haas. On the 1910 census my great
grandfather now had a son named Abraham and my great great grandfather was not
on the census. Naturally, I assumed he had died between 1900 and 1904 when
Abraham #2 was born. I spent a lot of time looking for the death record of
Abraham Haas in the Philadelphia City Archives to no avail. When I found that
the real name of the family was Povlotsky I found my great great grandfather,
still using the name Abraham on the 1910, 1920 and 1930 census.

Then with my Specter family, I was told that my cousin Murray was named after
his grandfather Morris (Moische) who was >from Boguslar, Ukraine. Then Morris had
a daughter named Harriet who named her daughter Harriet as well. Now, Harriet
#1was named Essie when she was born, was "Nannie" on the 1900 census and Hannah
on the 1920 census.

Would using a different surname (in the case of the Haas/Povlotsky family) make
it acceptable to name a child after a living relative and/or was it acceptable
for a person to name her child after the name she had adopted for herself if
that was not her given name at birth? Is this tradition of not naming after a
living person not strictly adhered to among Ukrainians? I have not found any of
these instances in my Polish family.

Meryl Rizzotti
Researching the names: POVLOTSKY, BASOI, SPECTER, SLEPAK, TEPEROWICZ, CYMES,
KREZEWIN


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Confused about names #ukraine

pcohen@...
 

My great-grandfather, Sam Cohen, lived >from about 1850 - 1930. In 1898, his grandson Sam Cohen was born. Why was this OK? Because their English names are not their "names". My great grandfather's Hebrew name was Shraga Shlomo and my uncle Sam's Hebrew name was Zalmen. Neither one was named Shmuel, as you might expect >from "Sam".

Peter Cohen
Pleasanton, California

-----Original Message-----
From: MERYL RIZZOTTI <mrizzotti@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Oct 18, 2011 8:00 PM
To: Ukraine SIG <ukraine@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: [ukraine] Confused about names
Hello Genners:
I have been puzzled by what I consider a break in the Ashkenazi tradition of not
naming children after living relatives. I first discovered this in my Povlotsky
family >from Shpola, Ukraine. On the 1900 census my Great great grandfather,
Abraham was on the Philadelphia census living with my great grandfather and his
family. That family had changed the surname to Haas and my Great Great
grandfather was on the census as Abraham Haas. On the 1910 census my great
grandfather now had a son named Abraham and my great great grandfather was not
on the census. Naturally, I assumed he had died between 1900 and 1904 when
Abraham #2 was born. I spent a lot of time looking for the death record of
Abraham Haas in the Philadelphia City Archives to no avail. When I found that
the real name of the family was Povlotsky I found my great great grandfather,
still using the name Abraham on the 1910, 1920 and 1930 census.

Then with my Specter family, I was told that my cousin Murray was named after
his grandfather Morris (Moische) who was >from Boguslar, Ukraine. Then Morris had
a daughter named Harriet who named her daughter Harriet as well. Now, Harriet
#1was named Essie when she was born, was "Nannie" on the 1900 census and Hannah
on the 1920 census.

Would using a different surname (in the case of the Haas/Povlotsky family) make
it acceptable to name a child after a living relative and/or was it acceptable
for a person to name her child after the name she had adopted for herself if
that was not her given name at birth? Is this tradition of not naming after a
living person not strictly adhered to among Ukrainians? I have not found any of
these instances in my Polish family.

Meryl Rizzotti
Researching the names: POVLOTSKY, BASOI, SPECTER, SLEPAK, TEPEROWICZ, CYMES,
KREZEWIN


JewishGen Screencasts: A reminder #ciechanow #poland

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#Ciechanow #Poland JewishGen Screencasts: A reminder #ciechanow #poland

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JewishGen Screencasts: A reminder #galicia

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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia JewishGen Screencasts: A reminder #galicia

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Advancing the Latin American SIG #latinamerica

montereybayrob@...
 

Latin American SIG members,

JewishGen has asked that the Latin American SIG move forward with
developing a website and begin acquiring information to make
accessible to others. In order to do so, we need:
members of a Board (non-fiduciary) willing to take on tasks
(perhaps country/ area representatives?) and a webmaster.

Please let me know directly, if you are willing to take a leadership
role in moving the Latin American SIG forward!

Thank you,

Rob Weisskirch, Latin American SIG Moderator
montereybayrob@gmail.com


Latin America #LatinAmerica Advancing the Latin American SIG #latinamerica

montereybayrob@...
 

Latin American SIG members,

JewishGen has asked that the Latin American SIG move forward with
developing a website and begin acquiring information to make
accessible to others. In order to do so, we need:
members of a Board (non-fiduciary) willing to take on tasks
(perhaps country/ area representatives?) and a webmaster.

Please let me know directly, if you are willing to take a leadership
role in moving the Latin American SIG forward!

Thank you,

Rob Weisskirch, Latin American SIG Moderator
montereybayrob@gmail.com


names #galicia

Shirley Portnoy <sportnoy48@...>
 

Can anyone tell me what the Hebrew equivalent of the name Osias
is? And what is the meaning of the female name Machla?

Thank you.

Shirley Amcis Portnoy
Little Neck, NY

Researching:
AMCIS, AMCES, AMTZIS (and any other phonetic variations),
SONENKLAR, and SZAPIERA >from Okopy, Borszczow, Burdyakovtsy,
Czortkow, Ulaskowce, Mielnica ; REINSTEIN >from Okopy and
Mielnica; PIDNACZYK >from ?; also HARKAVY, GARKAVY, GARKAWE,
etc. >from Grodno, Volkovisk, Skidel; GABOVITCH >from Skidel;
YEZERSKI >from Volkovisk; ZERSHTEIN and RIFKIND >from Grodno


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia names #galicia

Shirley Portnoy <sportnoy48@...>
 

Can anyone tell me what the Hebrew equivalent of the name Osias
is? And what is the meaning of the female name Machla?

Thank you.

Shirley Amcis Portnoy
Little Neck, NY

Researching:
AMCIS, AMCES, AMTZIS (and any other phonetic variations),
SONENKLAR, and SZAPIERA >from Okopy, Borszczow, Burdyakovtsy,
Czortkow, Ulaskowce, Mielnica ; REINSTEIN >from Okopy and
Mielnica; PIDNACZYK >from ?; also HARKAVY, GARKAVY, GARKAWE,
etc. >from Grodno, Volkovisk, Skidel; GABOVITCH >from Skidel;
YEZERSKI >from Volkovisk; ZERSHTEIN and RIFKIND >from Grodno


Marriage and distances #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Hi,

   I don't know where the idea that people did not travel before car, trains, airplanes etc... comes >from .
Actually they walked, and walked, and walked... Trains started in the 1840's, yes and they were used. They
used horse carriages. They rode horses, even in the days of the Romans, who were road builders, the width
of roads we have today come >from the width to allow a horse to travel on it.  Two horses wide is more recent
. Train tracks followed the same width (hence every thing carried by trains did as well. As a result items sent
into space built in different locations, as they were most of the time carried by train are also the width of a
"horse's ass" (proper usage..)

 My grandfather lived in Nagykanizsa,(South of the Balaton - near Slovenia) and his wife was >from Eger (East
near  Miskolc -close to what is today the Ukraine.) I don't know the exact distance but almost as far of each
other as  can be to be and still in Hungary, though a small(er) country than it used to be (they were married
in 1896 (she was 18.)

 To become a certified master in his trade or occupation the individual has to go around the country for a
year to see how it was done elsewhere than where he was (graduate school...)

 For one of its war a Chinese emperor had a whole  blue eyed, blond cavalry unit.

 The Gypsies (word that would indicate they were >from Egypt) came actually  >from India (walking), bought
by a Bulgar ruler/general) to be sent unarmed ( including women and children) just in front of his cavalry
and troops to create havoc for the opposing side.

 I probably could go on...

 Robert Neu
 Past president UJGS


Hungary SIG #Hungary Marriage and distances #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Hi,

   I don't know where the idea that people did not travel before car, trains, airplanes etc... comes >from .
Actually they walked, and walked, and walked... Trains started in the 1840's, yes and they were used. They
used horse carriages. They rode horses, even in the days of the Romans, who were road builders, the width
of roads we have today come >from the width to allow a horse to travel on it.  Two horses wide is more recent
. Train tracks followed the same width (hence every thing carried by trains did as well. As a result items sent
into space built in different locations, as they were most of the time carried by train are also the width of a
"horse's ass" (proper usage..)

 My grandfather lived in Nagykanizsa,(South of the Balaton - near Slovenia) and his wife was >from Eger (East
near  Miskolc -close to what is today the Ukraine.) I don't know the exact distance but almost as far of each
other as  can be to be and still in Hungary, though a small(er) country than it used to be (they were married
in 1896 (she was 18.)

 To become a certified master in his trade or occupation the individual has to go around the country for a
year to see how it was done elsewhere than where he was (graduate school...)

 For one of its war a Chinese emperor had a whole  blue eyed, blond cavalry unit.

 The Gypsies (word that would indicate they were >from Egypt) came actually  >from India (walking), bought
by a Bulgar ruler/general) to be sent unarmed ( including women and children) just in front of his cavalry
and troops to create havoc for the opposing side.

 I probably could go on...

 Robert Neu
 Past president UJGS


JewishGen Screencasts: A reminder #hungary

Phyllis Kramer
 

We have created a series of screencasts (5 minute videos) to help
JewishGenners.
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Hungary SIG #Hungary JewishGen Screencasts: A reminder #hungary

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Sunday, October 23, 2011: From Fancy Gloves to Boxing Gloves: A Case Study of Curiosities #general

janicemsj@...
 

San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society

Sunday, October 23, 2011
Oakland Regional Family History Center
4766 Lincoln Avenue
Oakland, CA 94602

Doors open 12:30 p.m.; program begins 1:00 p.m.

Topic: >from Fancy Gloves to Boxing Gloves: A Case Study of Curiosities
Speaker: Jeremy Frankel

Solomon Levinson rose >from obscurity to national fame by taking an
unusual route in the schmatta trade. Researching his life and the
lives of his family members has been littered with unexplained and
unaccounted for situations. This presentation is a culmination of what
Jeremy Frankel, SFBAJGS President, calls his "genealogical continuing
education", a project taken on for no other reason than it tickled his
genealogical funny bone.

The meeting is free and everyone interested is welcome to attend.
Light kosher refreshments will be served. There will be time before
and after the meeting to brainstorm with other attendees about your
genealogy questions.

Janice M. Sellers, Publicity Director
San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society
http://www.sfbajgs.org/


San Francisco Bay Area JGS, October 24, 2011: Here Comes the 1940 Census #general

janicemsj@...
 

San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society

Monday, October 24, 2011
Congregation Beth Am
26790 Arastradero Road Rm. 5/6
Los Altos Hills, CA

Doors open 7:00 p.m.; program begins 7:30 p.m.

Topic: Here Comes the 1940 Census
Speaker: Joel Weintraub

The 1940 U.S. census introduced sampling, organized publicity, and an
emphasis on economic questions. The 1940 census is being digitized by
the National Archives and will be available online. It is unlikely
there will be a name index available on the opening day of April 2,
2012, thus geographical means for finding people will be necessary.
Joel will discuss the 1940 enumeration and its questions and the
online 1940 geographical tools produced for the Morse One-Step Website
to search the 1940 census on opening day. He will also have 1940
census documents to show.

Meetings are free and anyone interested is welcome to attend. Light
kosher refreshments will be served. http://www.sfbajgs.org/

Janice M. Sellers, Publicity Director
San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society
http://www..sfbajgs.org/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sunday, October 23, 2011: From Fancy Gloves to Boxing Gloves: A Case Study of Curiosities #general

janicemsj@...
 

San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society

Sunday, October 23, 2011
Oakland Regional Family History Center
4766 Lincoln Avenue
Oakland, CA 94602

Doors open 12:30 p.m.; program begins 1:00 p.m.

Topic: >from Fancy Gloves to Boxing Gloves: A Case Study of Curiosities
Speaker: Jeremy Frankel

Solomon Levinson rose >from obscurity to national fame by taking an
unusual route in the schmatta trade. Researching his life and the
lives of his family members has been littered with unexplained and
unaccounted for situations. This presentation is a culmination of what
Jeremy Frankel, SFBAJGS President, calls his "genealogical continuing
education", a project taken on for no other reason than it tickled his
genealogical funny bone.

The meeting is free and everyone interested is welcome to attend.
Light kosher refreshments will be served. There will be time before
and after the meeting to brainstorm with other attendees about your
genealogy questions.

Janice M. Sellers, Publicity Director
San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society
http://www.sfbajgs.org/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen San Francisco Bay Area JGS, October 24, 2011: Here Comes the 1940 Census #general

janicemsj@...
 

San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society

Monday, October 24, 2011
Congregation Beth Am
26790 Arastradero Road Rm. 5/6
Los Altos Hills, CA

Doors open 7:00 p.m.; program begins 7:30 p.m.

Topic: Here Comes the 1940 Census
Speaker: Joel Weintraub

The 1940 U.S. census introduced sampling, organized publicity, and an
emphasis on economic questions. The 1940 census is being digitized by
the National Archives and will be available online. It is unlikely
there will be a name index available on the opening day of April 2,
2012, thus geographical means for finding people will be necessary.
Joel will discuss the 1940 enumeration and its questions and the
online 1940 geographical tools produced for the Morse One-Step Website
to search the 1940 census on opening day. He will also have 1940
census documents to show.

Meetings are free and anyone interested is welcome to attend. Light
kosher refreshments will be served. http://www.sfbajgs.org/

Janice M. Sellers, Publicity Director
San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society
http://www..sfbajgs.org/

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