In translating a notarized document >from the Kowel Rabbi verifying birth
and marriage information for one of my immigrant branches, I came across
several terms that I have not been able to translate. Hopefully, someone
in the jGen discussion group will find them familiar.

The terms are:

>from notary stamped statement:

omswionego

zakralonego

>from Rabbi's statement:

Stazosta

Blocki

Thank you. Please respond privately.

Jerry Schneider
Burke, VA USA
jerry.schneider@verizon.net

Izbica, Zolkiewka, Poland

In translating a notarized document >from the Kowel Rabbi verifying birth
and marriage information for one of my immigrant branches, I came across
several terms that I have not been able to translate. Hopefully, someone
in the jGen discussion group will find them familiar.

The terms are:

>from notary stamped statement:

omswionego

zakralonego

>from Rabbi's statement:

Stazosta

Blocki

Thank you. Please respond privately.

Jerry Schneider
Burke, VA USA
jerry.schneider@verizon.net

Izbica, Zolkiewka, Poland

I have just posted the final chapter of my research on the SS President
Arthur, known as the Zionist Mayflower, which made three round trips
between New York and Haifa in 1925:
http://thereliablenarrator.blogspot.com/

Part X offers genealogists sources for various passenger lists.

Sherry Levy-Reiner
Washington, D.C.

Researching: BOHM, REINER, REINEROVA, ROUBITCHEK (Divisov, Bohemia)
LEVY (Drohiczyn/Drohitchin [Poland])
SIME (Liep?ja/Libau/Libova/Liebau)
FINKEL (Siedlce/Shedlitz)
SLATKOWICZ, SLATKOWITZ, SLOTKOWITZ, ZLATKOWICZ, ZLATKOVITZ, ZLOTKOWITZ;
BIALES, BIALOSTOTSKY (Tykocin/Tiktin)

I have just posted the final chapter of my research on the SS President
Arthur, known as the Zionist Mayflower, which made three round trips
between New York and Haifa in 1925:
http://thereliablenarrator.blogspot.com/

Part X offers genealogists sources for various passenger lists.

Sherry Levy-Reiner
Washington, D.C.

Researching: BOHM, REINER, REINEROVA, ROUBITCHEK (Divisov, Bohemia)
LEVY (Drohiczyn/Drohitchin [Poland])
SIME (Liep?ja/Libau/Libova/Liebau)
FINKEL (Siedlce/Shedlitz)
SLATKOWICZ, SLATKOWITZ, SLOTKOWITZ, ZLATKOWICZ, ZLATKOVITZ, ZLOTKOWITZ;
BIALES, BIALOSTOTSKY (Tykocin/Tiktin)

In a message dated 9/8/2012 1:25:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
spinoza613@gmail.com writes:

MODERATOR NOTE: This forum is designed for genealogists to share resources,
knowledge and advice. We cannot begin to teach basic genealogy. However,
there are many resources on JewishGen to help you. Start with the "Getting
Started" tab on the Home page. Also put the town name "Danzig" into the
"Search for Town" box on the Home page. The explore the town page.

I have to total disagree with this moderator's note. It is an
inappropriate response. This forum is all about people helping other
people and not everyone here knows how to get started or how to do their
research. The comment "We can not ..." is wrong and then the moderate
even goes on to show how wrong it is but telling the person how to get started.

Allan Jordan

In a message dated 9/8/2012 1:25:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
spinoza613@gmail.com writes:

MODERATOR NOTE: This forum is designed for genealogists to share resources,
knowledge and advice. We cannot begin to teach basic genealogy. However,
there are many resources on JewishGen to help you. Start with the "Getting
Started" tab on the Home page. Also put the town name "Danzig" into the
"Search for Town" box on the Home page. The explore the town page.

I have to total disagree with this moderator's note. It is an
inappropriate response. This forum is all about people helping other
people and not everyone here knows how to get started or how to do their
research. The comment "We can not ..." is wrong and then the moderate
even goes on to show how wrong it is but telling the person how to get started.

Allan Jordan

With sadness I was informed and am share the passing of a gentleman and
great friend of JewishGen, Walter Greenspan aka SoyaMaven@aol.com

Walter passed away on 13 July 2012 at 66 years of age, after a sudden
illness. Since there was no formal obituary, please add to this tribute
to Walter, for his beloved, adult twin daughters.

Walter was born in Brooklyn, NYC, on 20 December 1945, as a Hanukkah gift
to Jack and Beatrice Greenspan. This Brooklyn boy finally returned home
to New York >from Montana, and is interred with his parents at
Maimonides-Elmont* Cemetery, 90 Elmont Road, Elmont, NY, Nassau County,
New York.

Walter worked as a commodities analyst for many years. He loved his
daughter and his Hebrew heritage...and his Mom's recipes.**

Simply put, Walter was best known as our Cartology Guru. When you had a
question about a place, Walter could untangle its umbillci through its
locations, geography, zip codes, and history, then steer you to the right
repository. He was a magician of maps, especially with those complicated
Long Island hamlets, villages, towns, and neighborhoods. It seem that he
responded with the accurate answer in minutes.

Walter, you will be so missed in Metro NYC, Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY.
Thanks for your generosity, sense of humor, and astute advice.
And for the record.....

*"Elmont is an unincorporated census-designated place located in the
northwest corner of the Town of Hempstead in Nassau County, New York, along
its border with the borough of Queens in New York City. It is a suburban
bedroom community located on Long Island. The population was 33,198
at the 2010 census."

Walter, with your consistent signature, "I hope this information is useful
or, at least, interesting."
You were always interesting! Thanks for the memories my friend.

**GREENSPAN Family Recipes all written by Walter, can all be found at The
Spoon at http://mtdiner.com

Cheese Blintz, Montana Blintz
Walter's Pesach matzoh brei (matzoh omelet)
It's hamantaschen baking time (holiday cookies)
Latkes & Sufganlyot (jelly doughnuts)

Thanks to Barb for sending me all this information.

Marge Spears Soloff
Orlando, FL
Jewish Orphanages in the United States
www.hnoh.com

MODERATOR NOTE: A third-party e-mail address was removed in accordance
with JewishGen's privacy policy.

With sadness I was informed and am share the passing of a gentleman and
great friend of JewishGen, Walter Greenspan aka SoyaMaven@aol.com

Walter passed away on 13 July 2012 at 66 years of age, after a sudden
illness. Since there was no formal obituary, please add to this tribute
to Walter, for his beloved, adult twin daughters.

Walter was born in Brooklyn, NYC, on 20 December 1945, as a Hanukkah gift
to Jack and Beatrice Greenspan. This Brooklyn boy finally returned home
to New York >from Montana, and is interred with his parents at
Maimonides-Elmont* Cemetery, 90 Elmont Road, Elmont, NY, Nassau County,
New York.

Walter worked as a commodities analyst for many years. He loved his
daughter and his Hebrew heritage...and his Mom's recipes.**

Simply put, Walter was best known as our Cartology Guru. When you had a
question about a place, Walter could untangle its umbillci through its
locations, geography, zip codes, and history, then steer you to the right
repository. He was a magician of maps, especially with those complicated
Long Island hamlets, villages, towns, and neighborhoods. It seem that he
responded with the accurate answer in minutes.

Walter, you will be so missed in Metro NYC, Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY.
Thanks for your generosity, sense of humor, and astute advice.
And for the record.....

*"Elmont is an unincorporated census-designated place located in the
northwest corner of the Town of Hempstead in Nassau County, New York, along
its border with the borough of Queens in New York City. It is a suburban
bedroom community located on Long Island. The population was 33,198
at the 2010 census."

Walter, with your consistent signature, "I hope this information is useful
or, at least, interesting."
You were always interesting! Thanks for the memories my friend.

**GREENSPAN Family Recipes all written by Walter, can all be found at The
Spoon at http://mtdiner.com

Cheese Blintz, Montana Blintz
Walter's Pesach matzoh brei (matzoh omelet)
It's hamantaschen baking time (holiday cookies)
Latkes & Sufganlyot (jelly doughnuts)

Thanks to Barb for sending me all this information.

Marge Spears Soloff
Orlando, FL
Jewish Orphanages in the United States
www.hnoh.com

MODERATOR NOTE: A third-party e-mail address was removed in accordance
with JewishGen's privacy policy.

The September meeting of the
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington (JGSGW)
will take place on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
at the National Archives in Washington, DC

Two Lectures (Attend one or both)

Program I: Finding Place of Birth in Federal Records
Location: Room G-25 (Use Penn. Ave. Entrance to Research Center)
Time: 11:00 AM
Speaker: Susannah E. Brooks

Susannah E. Brooks explains where one might find place of birth in National
Archives records, which is essential for additional research at the local
and state level in the U.S. and abroad.

Lunch may be brought >from home or purchased at the Cafe in the Archives

Program II: Jewish and Holocaust-related Records at the National Archives
Location: Adams Room (Use Constitution Ave.. Entrance)
Time: 1:00 PM
Speaker: Miriam Kleiman, Public Affairs Specialist

Miriam Kleiman will speak about Jewish and Holocaust-related records at the
National Archives. She will discuss finding aids to these materials and
efforts by the National Archives to make these records more widely available
via microfilm and online. She will also provide a "walk through" of the
National Archives Public Vaults permanent exhibition, highlighting records
relating to the Jewish experience in America.

This program was arranged exclusively for JGSGW members.

No reservations are needed.

Marlene Bishow
VP for Programs
Immediate Past-President
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington

The September meeting of the
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington (JGSGW)
will take place on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
at the National Archives in Washington, DC

Two Lectures (Attend one or both)

Program I: Finding Place of Birth in Federal Records
Location: Room G-25 (Use Penn. Ave. Entrance to Research Center)
Time: 11:00 AM
Speaker: Susannah E. Brooks

Susannah E. Brooks explains where one might find place of birth in National
Archives records, which is essential for additional research at the local
and state level in the U.S. and abroad.

Lunch may be brought >from home or purchased at the Cafe in the Archives

Program II: Jewish and Holocaust-related Records at the National Archives
Location: Adams Room (Use Constitution Ave.. Entrance)
Time: 1:00 PM
Speaker: Miriam Kleiman, Public Affairs Specialist

Miriam Kleiman will speak about Jewish and Holocaust-related records at the
National Archives. She will discuss finding aids to these materials and
efforts by the National Archives to make these records more widely available
via microfilm and online. She will also provide a "walk through" of the
National Archives Public Vaults permanent exhibition, highlighting records
relating to the Jewish experience in America.

This program was arranged exclusively for JGSGW members.

No reservations are needed.

Marlene Bishow
VP for Programs
Immediate Past-President
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington

Hi - Can anyone give me an approximate time period for this portrait
photo of children, maybe based on the clothing?

http://web.mit.edu/london/www/IMG_1327.JPG

The photo we have is a copy, so the date can't be deduced >from the photo
material itself. Thanks.

Mark London

Hi - Can anyone give me an approximate time period for this portrait
photo of children, maybe based on the clothing?

http://web.mit.edu/london/www/IMG_1327.JPG

The photo we have is a copy, so the date can't be deduced >from the photo
material itself. Thanks.

Mark London

In the Gesher Galicia Digest for September 8, Brian Lenius mentioned the
story of the Priest's Grotto. This gripping story has been made into a
documentary,"No Place on Earth," which will be viewed at the Toronto Film Festival
this coming week. For those of you in Toronto who would like to see this
gripping documentary, check out <http://www.noplaceonearthfilm.com/> and
<http://tiff.net/filmsandschedules/tiff/2012/noplaceonearth>. It also will
be shown on the History channel at some later date, I understand.

Joyce Field
West Lafayette, IN

Hi,

I recently discovered an exhaustive site containing information on all
the repressed people in USSR (Victims of Political Terror in USSR) -
http://lists.memo.ru/,

The site is in Russian, and all the records are alphabetically ordered
by surname. I immediately found there all our repressed relatives that
my mom managed to recall, and all those of my spouse.

I don't know how it correlates with the Ukrainian site listed earlier
in this string, but it definitely worth research for those looking for
their repressed family.

BR,
Alex Girshovich
Jerusalem, Israel

In the Gesher Galicia Digest for September 8, Brian Lenius mentioned the
story of the Priest's Grotto. This gripping story has been made into a
documentary,"No Place on Earth," which will be viewed at the Toronto Film Festival
this coming week. For those of you in Toronto who would like to see this
gripping documentary, check out <http://www.noplaceonearthfilm.com/> and
<http://tiff.net/filmsandschedules/tiff/2012/noplaceonearth>. It also will
be shown on the History channel at some later date, I understand.

Joyce Field
West Lafayette, IN

Hi,

I recently discovered an exhaustive site containing information on all
the repressed people in USSR (Victims of Political Terror in USSR) -
http://lists.memo.ru/,

The site is in Russian, and all the records are alphabetically ordered
by surname. I immediately found there all our repressed relatives that
my mom managed to recall, and all those of my spouse.

I don't know how it correlates with the Ukrainian site listed earlier
in this string, but it definitely worth research for those looking for
their repressed family.

BR,
Alex Girshovich
Jerusalem, Israel

According to Where Once We Walked, Ruzdwiany is now called Radvanov, Ukr.
It had a Jewish prewar population of 45, and is located 83 km. SSE of Lviv,
at coordinates 49o12'/24o36'. Rohatyn (Rogatin) is located at
49o25'/24o37', so it's pretty close. WOWW doesn't list a Martinov, but it
does have a Martinova which is in the Slovak Republic, quite some distance
away.

Hope this helps!

Doug Cohen
Lexington, MA

According to Where Once We Walked, Ruzdwiany is now called Radvanov, Ukr.
It had a Jewish prewar population of 45, and is located 83 km. SSE of Lviv,
at coordinates 49o12'/24o36'. Rohatyn (Rogatin) is located at
49o25'/24o37', so it's pretty close. WOWW doesn't list a Martinov, but it
does have a Martinova which is in the Slovak Republic, quite some distance
away.

Hope this helps!

Doug Cohen
Lexington, MA

Dear Ukraine SIG Friends,

First, many thanks to Amos Zesmer, Ana Gerschenfeld, Karen Sanders, Dick
Plotz, John Diener and, of course Marilyn Robinson. for their messages
about the Russian Language websites that Marilyn has been documenting. I
know that many more of you would like to know what Ukraine SIG is doing
about all these wonderful "finds" that Marilyn has made. I've been
remiss in not reporting to you earlier about this. I'll try to make up
for that with this message.

For about 14 months, Marilyn has been sending messages to me reporting
on her discoveries. About a year ago we recognized that there is so much
useful information on the Russian language websites, that we would have
to approach this systematically. We began creating an Excel-based
Catalog of these websites. Marlis Humphrey, Ukraine SIG's Projects
Director is in charge of this effort. However, as you know, the job is
so massive, that Marlis needs help ... lots of help. More about that
later in this message. We have been working on this project "behind the
scene". However, as a result of your messages and your obvious interest
in this, I have placed the Excel Catalog of Russian Language websites on
our Ukraine SIG website. To download it,. go to:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/RES_collection.asp?id=1353

You also can get there by clicking on Towns and Districts/Ukraine
Clickable Map/ on the top menu bar of any page on our website. That will
take you to our General Ukraine page where we list all "Projects" and
"Document Collections and Datasets" that relate to Ukraine in general.
In the Document Collections and Datasets section look for "Russian
Language Websites: Catalog of Datasets". If you click on the "open book"
icon, you will go directly to the Excel file download link. Instead,
please click on the "View" button to go to the page that describes the
spreadsheet. >from there you also can download the file and in addition,
you can read and download the full descriptive document that describes
the Catalog. On the Collection description page, and in the spreadsheet,
you will see the 21 fields that describe each item.

As Marilyn wrote, she has sent me more than 1,000 messages with
information about the content of these Russian language websites. So
far, we have 415 entries in our Excel spreadsheet. These entries contain
documents/datasets for 182 towns in Ukraine. Marilyn continues finding
material faster than we can catalog it. The problem is this: Each item
that Marilyn reports is only the "tip of the iceberg". When we start
digging into each website, the amount of material we find increases five
to ten-fold. So, behind those 1,000+ items that Marilyn has sent there
are thousands more. And, the question becomes, how do we manage this
huge mass of material that is relevant to Jewish genealogy in Ukraine?
This is what we have done and plan ... so far:

1. Examine each set of data that Marilyn identifies.
2. Catalog the information using the Excel spreadsheet
3. Examine other pages on the website and catalog the additional
information
4. Download any documents and/or datasets that are available.
5. Update the Cataloged information after examining the documents/datasets
6. Seek permission >from the copyright owner to post the translated
documents/datasets
7. Post the catalog information on the Ukraine SIG website
8. Prioritize the documents/datasets for translation, in cooperation
with our Town Leaders and KehilaLinks "owners"
9. Translate and proofread the documents/datasets
10. Prepare the translations for posting on the relevant KehilaLinks
website, the JewishGen Ukraine Database and the Ukraine SIG Master
Name Index

To carry out this project properly, we need a Project Manager and a
couple of Assistant Project Managers. To fill these positions, you
should have good project management skills as well as enthusiasm for
this project. Ability to read printed Cyrillic is desirable but not
essential. In addition, we need volunteers to work on steps 1 through
5. Steps 1, through 3 require either ability to read and understand
printed Russian, or, ability to make sense of computerized web page
translations done by Google Chrome. Volunteers for Steps 4 and 5 should
be familiar with the downloading process and should have reasonable
skill using Excel.

WE NEED YOUR HELP to tap into this rich resource. If you are willing and
able to help with this very important project, please contact Marlis
Humphrey (marlis@vitreouscom.com) or Ron Doctor (rddpdx@gmail.com).

If you have any ideas about how to do this project better than the plan
I have outlined, please post a message on the Discussion List or write
to us. Your thoughts concerning this project are important and should be
posted on our Discussion List so that we all can benefit >from our
collective knowledge and insight. I am looking forward to hearing >from you.

Ron

--
Ron Doctor (rddpdx@gmail.com)
Coordinator, JewishGen Ukraine SIG
www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine
where Jewish genealogy is personal

Researching DOCTOR (DIOKHTER), VARER, AVERBAKH, KORENFELD ... all >from Kremenets, Oleksinets, Yampol, Vishnevets
and KAZDOY (KOSODOY), DUBINSKI, DUBOWSKY ... all >from Kiev, Uman, Odessa

Dear Ukraine SIG Friends,

First, many thanks to Amos Zesmer, Ana Gerschenfeld, Karen Sanders, Dick
Plotz, John Diener and, of course Marilyn Robinson. for their messages
about the Russian Language websites that Marilyn has been documenting. I
know that many more of you would like to know what Ukraine SIG is doing
about all these wonderful "finds" that Marilyn has made. I've been
remiss in not reporting to you earlier about this. I'll try to make up
for that with this message.

For about 14 months, Marilyn has been sending messages to me reporting
on her discoveries. About a year ago we recognized that there is so much
useful information on the Russian language websites, that we would have
to approach this systematically. We began creating an Excel-based
Catalog of these websites. Marlis Humphrey, Ukraine SIG's Projects
Director is in charge of this effort. However, as you know, the job is
so massive, that Marlis needs help ... lots of help. More about that
later in this message. We have been working on this project "behind the
scene". However, as a result of your messages and your obvious interest
in this, I have placed the Excel Catalog of Russian Language websites on
our Ukraine SIG website. To download it,. go to:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/RES_collection.asp?id=1353

You also can get there by clicking on Towns and Districts/Ukraine
Clickable Map/ on the top menu bar of any page on our website. That will
take you to our General Ukraine page where we list all "Projects" and
"Document Collections and Datasets" that relate to Ukraine in general.
In the Document Collections and Datasets section look for "Russian
Language Websites: Catalog of Datasets". If you click on the "open book"
icon, you will go directly to the Excel file download link. Instead,
please click on the "View" button to go to the page that describes the
spreadsheet. >from there you also can download the file and in addition,
you can read and download the full descriptive document that describes
the Catalog. On the Collection description page, and in the spreadsheet,
you will see the 21 fields that describe each item.

As Marilyn wrote, she has sent me more than 1,000 messages with
information about the content of these Russian language websites. So
far, we have 415 entries in our Excel spreadsheet. These entries contain
documents/datasets for 182 towns in Ukraine. Marilyn continues finding
material faster than we can catalog it. The problem is this: Each item
that Marilyn reports is only the "tip of the iceberg". When we start
digging into each website, the amount of material we find increases five
to ten-fold. So, behind those 1,000+ items that Marilyn has sent there
are thousands more. And, the question becomes, how do we manage this
huge mass of material that is relevant to Jewish genealogy in Ukraine?
This is what we have done and plan ... so far:

1. Examine each set of data that Marilyn identifies.
2. Catalog the information using the Excel spreadsheet
3. Examine other pages on the website and catalog the additional
information
4. Download any documents and/or datasets that are available.
5. Update the Cataloged information after examining the documents/datasets
6. Seek permission >from the copyright owner to post the translated
documents/datasets
7. Post the catalog information on the Ukraine SIG website
8. Prioritize the documents/datasets for translation, in cooperation
with our Town Leaders and KehilaLinks "owners"
9. Translate and proofread the documents/datasets
10. Prepare the translations for posting on the relevant KehilaLinks
website, the JewishGen Ukraine Database and the Ukraine SIG Master
Name Index

To carry out this project properly, we need a Project Manager and a
couple of Assistant Project Managers. To fill these positions, you
should have good project management skills as well as enthusiasm for
this project. Ability to read printed Cyrillic is desirable but not
essential. In addition, we need volunteers to work on steps 1 through
5. Steps 1, through 3 require either ability to read and understand
printed Russian, or, ability to make sense of computerized web page
translations done by Google Chrome. Volunteers for Steps 4 and 5 should
be familiar with the downloading process and should have reasonable
skill using Excel.

WE NEED YOUR HELP to tap into this rich resource. If you are willing and
able to help with this very important project, please contact Marlis
Humphrey (marlis@vitreouscom.com) or Ron Doctor (rddpdx@gmail.com).

If you have any ideas about how to do this project better than the plan
I have outlined, please post a message on the Discussion List or write
to us. Your thoughts concerning this project are important and should be
posted on our Discussion List so that we all can benefit >from our
collective knowledge and insight. I am looking forward to hearing >from you.

Ron

--
Ron Doctor (rddpdx@gmail.com)
Coordinator, JewishGen Ukraine SIG
www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine
where Jewish genealogy is personal

Researching DOCTOR (DIOKHTER), VARER, AVERBAKH, KORENFELD ... all >from Kremenets, Oleksinets, Yampol, Vishnevets
and KAZDOY (KOSODOY), DUBINSKI, DUBOWSKY ... all >from Kiev, Uman, Odessa