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looking for driver from Lviv #galicia

Amit Landau <landau.a@...>
 

I am going to spend a couple of days in Lviv, Ukraine, in June, and
looking for a driver that could take me to a village named
Stanislavchyk (around 95 km or 60 miles >from Lviv). Does anyone
have any experience in such a tour >from Lviv and could recommend
me on a person who could take me there? And approximately how
much a return ride plus one hour stay should cost?

Amit Landau,
Tel Aviv, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: Please communicate names of guides and
drivers privately.
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia looking for driver from Lviv #galicia

Amit Landau <landau.a@...>
 

I am going to spend a couple of days in Lviv, Ukraine, in June, and
looking for a driver that could take me to a village named
Stanislavchyk (around 95 km or 60 miles >from Lviv). Does anyone
have any experience in such a tour >from Lviv and could recommend
me on a person who could take me there? And approximately how
much a return ride plus one hour stay should cost?

Amit Landau,
Tel Aviv, Israel

MODERATOR NOTE: Please communicate names of guides and
drivers privately.
LUBIN // WEINTRAUB Family Search, help needed #galicia

Nancy Lubin Bochichio <bo-enterprises@...>
 

Could someone please head me in the right direction backward [in
time]?! I'm researching my paternal grandparents, Lewi (Louis) Moshe
LUBIN and Pepi (Pearl, Pauline) WEINTRAUB LUBIN. My grandparents
died when I was young, and my father (who died when I was 23) did
not speak much about his close-knit family, except that he spoke only
Yiddish until he was five.

My mother remembered hearing >from my Bubbe, Pearl, that the family
[LUBIN] was named for the town >from where they came, and that they
"...were Galizien," >from eastern Europe, so I "discovered" Galicia. Also,
my grandfather came >from a family of Rabbis, but he chose to come to
the US and become a jeweler. Lewi and Pepi met when she was working
in a bakery in Budapest. They married in 1909. A few books that I have
from them are in German or Hebrew. I know that Lemberg is now L'viv
(Lwow, Lvov), Ukraine. I have since noticed that there are quite a few
places that have been named Lubin or similar. I have found information
from Ellis Island, the US Census, and military records. The All Galicia
Database has not been revealing.

Lewi records: arrived in NY 1909, >from Lemberg, Austria, mother
Amalia? LUBIN in Lemberg. Various records states birthplace as
Galizien (Galician), Austria, Bohemia, and Poland.

Pepi records: arrived in NY 1910, father N? WEINTRAUB in Lemberg,
birth location Lemberg; may have lost all family in the Holocaust/Shoah
(no longer heard >from them).

Lewi and Pepi's eldest son, Schlamje, records: arrived in NY 1914 with
Rose WEINTRAUB [his aunt], born in Lemberg Austria; Rose
WEINTRAUB records: father Nachman WEINTRAUB Nova Gasse 12
Lemberg, Galicia, Austria, place of birth Austria Almow; >from JGBR,
may be her: SOBEL, Rose (Rosie) (WEINTRAUB) died 1926, Hinde
Roize b. Nachman Tzvi, gravestone entirely in Hebrew/maiden name
WEINTRAUB.

Shoah record, possibly Pepi and Rose's father: "Nachman WEINTRAUB was
born in Nisko* [Lwow] in 1863 to Ptakhia and Tzirel. He was a
merchant and married to Yehudit. Prior to WWII he lived in Nisko,
Poland. During the war, he was in Rzeszow, Ghetto. Nachman perished
in 1942 in Rzeszow, Ghetto. This information is based on a Page of
Testimony submitted by his son [Khaim VEINTRAUB], a Shoah survivor."
[Note: Nisko was in Austrian Galicia, then it became part of Poland,
small town in the Lublin district.]

I would like to discover where Lewi LUBIN was born and who was his
family. It would also be nice to know if this Nachman WEINTRAUB is
Pepi's father, and more about her family. How would I go about
retrieving information beyond Ellis Island, JewishGen, US Census, and
the various other sites to which they link (e.g. cemeteries). Using
their known names, not much information has turned up.

Shalom,
Nancy Lubin Bochichio
Mahopac, New York
Reply to: bo-enterprises@hotmail.com
STERNFELD from Kolomea #galicia

Eileen Serwer <erserwer@...>
 

This is the first time I have seen Kolomea mentioned in one of your
posts. I also have relatives that came to the US >from there. I have
searched ship records extensively to find my paternal
great-grandfather, Jacob STERNFELD, to no avail. I did find a passenger
record for his wife, daughter, my grandmother, and a son, probably
from a few years later, in 1898, but no trace of him. Does anyone
know why this is possible and how I can find their Galicia marriage
certificate?

The good news is I did connect with the son's family through JewGen
and we look forward to meeting in the near future.

Thank you.

Eileen Serwer
erserwer@gmail.com

Milton Koch<mjk1944@gmail.com> wrote:

<<I've posted a vital record - part of a marriage record - >from
Kolomya, in Polish for which I need a translation....>>

MODERATOR NOTE: For past mentions of Kolomyya/Kolomyja/Kolomea
on this list, search the JewishGen SIG Archives
(http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~sigspop)
for Kolom*a .
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia LUBIN // WEINTRAUB Family Search, help needed #galicia

Nancy Lubin Bochichio <bo-enterprises@...>
 

Could someone please head me in the right direction backward [in
time]?! I'm researching my paternal grandparents, Lewi (Louis) Moshe
LUBIN and Pepi (Pearl, Pauline) WEINTRAUB LUBIN. My grandparents
died when I was young, and my father (who died when I was 23) did
not speak much about his close-knit family, except that he spoke only
Yiddish until he was five.

My mother remembered hearing >from my Bubbe, Pearl, that the family
[LUBIN] was named for the town >from where they came, and that they
"...were Galizien," >from eastern Europe, so I "discovered" Galicia. Also,
my grandfather came >from a family of Rabbis, but he chose to come to
the US and become a jeweler. Lewi and Pepi met when she was working
in a bakery in Budapest. They married in 1909. A few books that I have
from them are in German or Hebrew. I know that Lemberg is now L'viv
(Lwow, Lvov), Ukraine. I have since noticed that there are quite a few
places that have been named Lubin or similar. I have found information
from Ellis Island, the US Census, and military records. The All Galicia
Database has not been revealing.

Lewi records: arrived in NY 1909, >from Lemberg, Austria, mother
Amalia? LUBIN in Lemberg. Various records states birthplace as
Galizien (Galician), Austria, Bohemia, and Poland.

Pepi records: arrived in NY 1910, father N? WEINTRAUB in Lemberg,
birth location Lemberg; may have lost all family in the Holocaust/Shoah
(no longer heard >from them).

Lewi and Pepi's eldest son, Schlamje, records: arrived in NY 1914 with
Rose WEINTRAUB [his aunt], born in Lemberg Austria; Rose
WEINTRAUB records: father Nachman WEINTRAUB Nova Gasse 12
Lemberg, Galicia, Austria, place of birth Austria Almow; >from JGBR,
may be her: SOBEL, Rose (Rosie) (WEINTRAUB) died 1926, Hinde
Roize b. Nachman Tzvi, gravestone entirely in Hebrew/maiden name
WEINTRAUB.

Shoah record, possibly Pepi and Rose's father: "Nachman WEINTRAUB was
born in Nisko* [Lwow] in 1863 to Ptakhia and Tzirel. He was a
merchant and married to Yehudit. Prior to WWII he lived in Nisko,
Poland. During the war, he was in Rzeszow, Ghetto. Nachman perished
in 1942 in Rzeszow, Ghetto. This information is based on a Page of
Testimony submitted by his son [Khaim VEINTRAUB], a Shoah survivor."
[Note: Nisko was in Austrian Galicia, then it became part of Poland,
small town in the Lublin district.]

I would like to discover where Lewi LUBIN was born and who was his
family. It would also be nice to know if this Nachman WEINTRAUB is
Pepi's father, and more about her family. How would I go about
retrieving information beyond Ellis Island, JewishGen, US Census, and
the various other sites to which they link (e.g. cemeteries). Using
their known names, not much information has turned up.

Shalom,
Nancy Lubin Bochichio
Mahopac, New York
Reply to: bo-enterprises@hotmail.com
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia STERNFELD from Kolomea #galicia

Eileen Serwer <erserwer@...>
 

This is the first time I have seen Kolomea mentioned in one of your
posts. I also have relatives that came to the US >from there. I have
searched ship records extensively to find my paternal
great-grandfather, Jacob STERNFELD, to no avail. I did find a passenger
record for his wife, daughter, my grandmother, and a son, probably
from a few years later, in 1898, but no trace of him. Does anyone
know why this is possible and how I can find their Galicia marriage
certificate?

The good news is I did connect with the son's family through JewGen
and we look forward to meeting in the near future.

Thank you.

Eileen Serwer
erserwer@gmail.com

Milton Koch<mjk1944@gmail.com> wrote:

<<I've posted a vital record - part of a marriage record - >from
Kolomya, in Polish for which I need a translation....>>

MODERATOR NOTE: For past mentions of Kolomyya/Kolomyja/Kolomea
on this list, search the JewishGen SIG Archives
(http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~sigspop)
for Kolom*a .
Mehora dena #rabbinic

Dubin, David M. MD
 

Hi all,
In translating tombstone inscriptions I came across a term that
sounds like it should be familiar. Can anyone translate for me?
The context is "...son of so-and-so (ob"m) mehora dena, grandson
of the gaon so-and-so...."
It looks like one word, and is spelled
mem-heh-vav(or yod)-resh-aleph-dalet-nun-aleph.
Thank you.
David Dubin
Teaneck, NJ
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Mehora dena #rabbinic

Dubin, David M. MD
 

Hi all,
In translating tombstone inscriptions I came across a term that
sounds like it should be familiar. Can anyone translate for me?
The context is "...son of so-and-so (ob"m) mehora dena, grandson
of the gaon so-and-so...."
It looks like one word, and is spelled
mem-heh-vav(or yod)-resh-aleph-dalet-nun-aleph.
Thank you.
David Dubin
Teaneck, NJ
Re: TRA(C)HOS (Trahos) and GIATA surnames. Anyone have any information? #sephardic

Anne-Marie Faraggi <amfaraggi@...>
 

Hello Michael,
I cannot confirm the origin of the surnames TRAHOS and GIATA. Among the
typical Salonican Sephardic surnames, none appears close to yours.
They may be surnames >from Thrace (Thraki in Greek and Trakya in Turkish) in
the north-east of Greece and I don't really know these names very well.

Anne-Marie Faraggi
Switzerland
Researching: FARAGGI and MALLAH

---
From: MIHALIS <mike@strouthidis.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:56:36 +0200 (CEST)

I have discovered that my Great Great Mother on my Mother's side
was possibly Sephardic Jewish and converted to Greek Orthodox
Christianity in the mid to late 1800's. She was in northern Greece
in the area of Siatista/Xserolimni and near to Thessaloniki. Her
maiden name prior to marriage was TRAHOS or TRACHOS, and her married
surname was GIATA. Both these surnames seem to be of Sephardic Jewish
origin, >from what I have gleaned >from very basic investigation online.
Can anyone confirm this?

Michael Strouthidis
Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: TRA(C)HOS (Trahos) and GIATA surnames. Anyone have any information? #sephardic

Anne-Marie Faraggi <amfaraggi@...>
 

Hello Michael,
I cannot confirm the origin of the surnames TRAHOS and GIATA. Among the
typical Salonican Sephardic surnames, none appears close to yours.
They may be surnames >from Thrace (Thraki in Greek and Trakya in Turkish) in
the north-east of Greece and I don't really know these names very well.

Anne-Marie Faraggi
Switzerland
Researching: FARAGGI and MALLAH

---
From: MIHALIS <mike@strouthidis.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:56:36 +0200 (CEST)

I have discovered that my Great Great Mother on my Mother's side
was possibly Sephardic Jewish and converted to Greek Orthodox
Christianity in the mid to late 1800's. She was in northern Greece
in the area of Siatista/Xserolimni and near to Thessaloniki. Her
maiden name prior to marriage was TRAHOS or TRACHOS, and her married
surname was GIATA. Both these surnames seem to be of Sephardic Jewish
origin, >from what I have gleaned >from very basic investigation online.
Can anyone confirm this?

Michael Strouthidis
KANTOROVICH family from SLONIM, GUB. GRODNO, BELORUS #belarus

r.dupuis@...
 

Dear genners,

I'm searching for members of the KANTOROVICH family >from Slonim,
Gub. Grodno:

My gggrandfather the railway official JAKOB DAVID KANTOROVICH
/KANTOROWITZ/KANTEROWITZ/KANTOROWICZ was born 1830/35 in Slonim as first
of three sons of the petty bourgeois and merchant DAVID LEIB KANTOROVICH
(b. 1821, d. 1845) and his wife DOROTA, nee ?.
JAKOB DAVID/YAKOV DUVID/ KANTOROVICH was married on March 18, 1860
in Riga with WILHELMINA/MINNE MINDEL
/ bat ISAAK KEILMAN (b. 1835 in Riga, Latvia, d. 1914 in St. Petersburg,
Russia). They had five childrens:
Leon, Izabella Dorote, Sofia, Alexander and
Evgenia/Eugenie (EUGENIE JAKOBOVNA KEILMANN, nee KANTOROWITZ was my ggrand-
mother. She was born 1868 in Vilnius and was killed during the Shoa. She
eas married 1885 in Riga with the dentist ISIDOR NOAKH ben PHILIPP KEILMAN,
b. 1856 in Riga, d. 1942 in Riga)

My gggrandfsather JAKOB KANTOROVICH had
two brothers: SHOLOM DAVID KANTOROVICH (b. 1838 in Slonim, d.?) and SHLIOMA
DAVID KANTOROVICH (b. 1842 in Slonim, d.?).

DAVID LEIB KANTOROVICH had two
brothers: LIPA LEIB KANTOROVICH (b. 1803 in Slonim, d.?) and LAZER LEIB
KANTOROVICH (b. 1806 in Slonim, d. 1853 in Slonim).

LAZER LEIB KANTOROVICH
had a son: SENDER-MOVSHA ben LAZER KANTOROVICH (b. 1832 in Slonim, married?
, d.?)

LIPA LEIB KANTOROVICH had two sons: JANKEL LIPA KANTOROVICH (b. 1822
in Slonim,d.? ) and DAVID LIPA KANTOROVICH (b. 1835 in Slonim).

JANKEL LIPA KANTOROVICH was married and had a son: HONON LEIB KANTOROVICH
(b. 1852 in Slonim, married? d.?).

DAVID LIPA KANTOROVICH was married with GITLA.
They had a son: GERSH DAVID KANTOROVICH (b. 1857 in Slonim, married? d.?)


I am looking for descendants of this KANTOROVICH family coming >from Slonim
, Gub. Grodno, Belorus. Looking forward for your reply.

B'Shalom

Robert

Robert Dupuis
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately with family information
Belarus SIG #Belarus KANTOROVICH family from SLONIM, GUB. GRODNO, BELORUS #belarus

r.dupuis@...
 

Dear genners,

I'm searching for members of the KANTOROVICH family >from Slonim,
Gub. Grodno:

My gggrandfather the railway official JAKOB DAVID KANTOROVICH
/KANTOROWITZ/KANTEROWITZ/KANTOROWICZ was born 1830/35 in Slonim as first
of three sons of the petty bourgeois and merchant DAVID LEIB KANTOROVICH
(b. 1821, d. 1845) and his wife DOROTA, nee ?.
JAKOB DAVID/YAKOV DUVID/ KANTOROVICH was married on March 18, 1860
in Riga with WILHELMINA/MINNE MINDEL
/ bat ISAAK KEILMAN (b. 1835 in Riga, Latvia, d. 1914 in St. Petersburg,
Russia). They had five childrens:
Leon, Izabella Dorote, Sofia, Alexander and
Evgenia/Eugenie (EUGENIE JAKOBOVNA KEILMANN, nee KANTOROWITZ was my ggrand-
mother. She was born 1868 in Vilnius and was killed during the Shoa. She
eas married 1885 in Riga with the dentist ISIDOR NOAKH ben PHILIPP KEILMAN,
b. 1856 in Riga, d. 1942 in Riga)

My gggrandfsather JAKOB KANTOROVICH had
two brothers: SHOLOM DAVID KANTOROVICH (b. 1838 in Slonim, d.?) and SHLIOMA
DAVID KANTOROVICH (b. 1842 in Slonim, d.?).

DAVID LEIB KANTOROVICH had two
brothers: LIPA LEIB KANTOROVICH (b. 1803 in Slonim, d.?) and LAZER LEIB
KANTOROVICH (b. 1806 in Slonim, d. 1853 in Slonim).

LAZER LEIB KANTOROVICH
had a son: SENDER-MOVSHA ben LAZER KANTOROVICH (b. 1832 in Slonim, married?
, d.?)

LIPA LEIB KANTOROVICH had two sons: JANKEL LIPA KANTOROVICH (b. 1822
in Slonim,d.? ) and DAVID LIPA KANTOROVICH (b. 1835 in Slonim).

JANKEL LIPA KANTOROVICH was married and had a son: HONON LEIB KANTOROVICH
(b. 1852 in Slonim, married? d.?).

DAVID LIPA KANTOROVICH was married with GITLA.
They had a son: GERSH DAVID KANTOROVICH (b. 1857 in Slonim, married? d.?)


I am looking for descendants of this KANTOROVICH family coming >from Slonim
, Gub. Grodno, Belorus. Looking forward for your reply.

B'Shalom

Robert

Robert Dupuis
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately with family information
Re: Cost of Travel #ukraine

suewelsh@...
 

I believe that there was something in the law at the end of the 19th century
and beginning of the 20th century that specified that immigrants had to have
a certain amount of money with them so that they would not become a public
burden. They also had to pass a medical examination for the same reason.
And also swear that they were not an anarchist (as if they'd tell the
truth!)

As to the cost of the ticket cleaning a person out; that, like most things
was relative. If you had more money in the Old County, you had more upon
arrival. And if you had a larger family, it took more time to raise the
money for the ticket. If you look at the The Gjenvick-Gjønvik Archives
website: http://www.gjenvick.com/#axzz2FkwQrjum they have samples of
steamship tickets and contracts >from the era you are interested in which
will provide information about cost and so forth. The site is quite
interesteding although not particularly well-known.

Hope this helps,

Susan Granite Welsh
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE:Cost of Travel #ukraine

suewelsh@...
 

I believe that there was something in the law at the end of the 19th century
and beginning of the 20th century that specified that immigrants had to have
a certain amount of money with them so that they would not become a public
burden. They also had to pass a medical examination for the same reason.
And also swear that they were not an anarchist (as if they'd tell the
truth!)

As to the cost of the ticket cleaning a person out; that, like most things
was relative. If you had more money in the Old County, you had more upon
arrival. And if you had a larger family, it took more time to raise the
money for the ticket. If you look at the The Gjenvick-Gjønvik Archives
website: http://www.gjenvick.com/#axzz2FkwQrjum they have samples of
steamship tickets and contracts >from the era you are interested in which
will provide information about cost and so forth. The site is quite
interesteding although not particularly well-known.

Hope this helps,

Susan Granite Welsh
Researching GELLIN or GELIN (originally from Gellin, France) then Slonim, Grodno, Russia (Belarus) #belarus

Karen Wyman <ancestoire@...>
 

I am looking for assistance locating an ancestor GELLIN (or GELIN)
believed to be >from Gellen, Doubs, Franche-Comt, France. He fought in
the Russian Campaign of 1812 and was wounded and it is believed that he
made his way to Slonim, Grodno, Russia (Belarus) where he married a
Russian woman and remained.

The next ancestor known is probably a grandson, Alexander GELLIN, born
Slonim, Grodno about 1840. Do not know his wife's name. His children
were: Rivka, Sarah and David GELLEN. (David GELLEN was born around 1867
in Slonim).

David GELLEN married Goldie SOLOMON presumably in Slonim, then
immigrated to New York about 1900.

Goldie and children: Abram, Herschel (Harry) Schlame (Samuel) and
Weiwel (William) all immigrated on 20 Jul 1906 on the SS Mississippi.
Daughters Celia and Pauline traveled separately (I have not located
their manifests.) Son Hyman was born in NYC.

I have not been able to locate any information on the family pre-1906,
when Goldie and children emigrated.

Any assistance with locating information or additional ideas where to
search for the family in Russia/Belarus (and France), would be most
appreciated!

Thank you,
Karen Katz Wyman
Cleveland, Ohio, USA

Please reply to: ancestoire@gmail.com=
Re: Emigration to England #ukraine

Alex Girshovich
 

Hi Wendy,

I think it is best described in "Wandering Stars" by Sholom Aleichem.

Cheers,

BR,
Alex Girshovich
Belarus SIG #Belarus Researching GELLIN or GELIN (originally from Gellin, France) then Slonim, Grodno, Russia (Belarus) #belarus

Karen Wyman <ancestoire@...>
 

I am looking for assistance locating an ancestor GELLIN (or GELIN)
believed to be >from Gellen, Doubs, Franche-Comt, France. He fought in
the Russian Campaign of 1812 and was wounded and it is believed that he
made his way to Slonim, Grodno, Russia (Belarus) where he married a
Russian woman and remained.

The next ancestor known is probably a grandson, Alexander GELLIN, born
Slonim, Grodno about 1840. Do not know his wife's name. His children
were: Rivka, Sarah and David GELLEN. (David GELLEN was born around 1867
in Slonim).

David GELLEN married Goldie SOLOMON presumably in Slonim, then
immigrated to New York about 1900.

Goldie and children: Abram, Herschel (Harry) Schlame (Samuel) and
Weiwel (William) all immigrated on 20 Jul 1906 on the SS Mississippi.
Daughters Celia and Pauline traveled separately (I have not located
their manifests.) Son Hyman was born in NYC.

I have not been able to locate any information on the family pre-1906,
when Goldie and children emigrated.

Any assistance with locating information or additional ideas where to
search for the family in Russia/Belarus (and France), would be most
appreciated!

Thank you,
Karen Katz Wyman
Cleveland, Ohio, USA

Please reply to: ancestoire@gmail.com=
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Emigration to England #ukraine

Alex Girshovich
 

Hi Wendy,

I think it is best described in "Wandering Stars" by Sholom Aleichem.

Cheers,

BR,
Alex Girshovich
Re: Cost of Passage to America #ukraine

Alex Girshovich
 

Hi Sherwin,

Cost of move was only one of the reasons. Yet, there were many others,
Just a few examples >from my family.
1. My grand grandfather went to the US in 1913 alone, leaving the
family behind him in Belarus, a part of the Russian empire. The idea
behind this was that it would be easier for him to settle there alone,
make all the arrangements and the wife with 8 children would join in
2-3 years, when everything is ready. It was a popular state of mind at
that time and it could work, if not for the reason #2.
2. In 1914 WWI broke out, followed by two Russian revolutions and
Civil War. These were really hard times, and travelling via Europe was
an enormous challenge, full of life dangers.
3. It was not before 1924 that my grand grandfather managed to invite
his family to the US, However, the Bolsheviks did not give permits to
children above 18. So, the 3 elder children had to stay in the USSR,
including my grandfather who had married and born a child (my mom) by
this time,
4. The 3rd brother that was still single managed to escape >from the
USSR in 1925 via Latvia, being smuggled in a ship's cargo deck,
reached Canada and only then joined the family in Cleveland, OH.

All these challenges were naturally on top of the cost of move.
And I believe that almost every family had to overcome its own hurdles.

BR,
Alex Girshovich
Jerusalem Israel.
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Cost of Passage to America #ukraine

Alex Girshovich
 

Hi Sherwin,

Cost of move was only one of the reasons. Yet, there were many others,
Just a few examples >from my family.
1. My grand grandfather went to the US in 1913 alone, leaving the
family behind him in Belarus, a part of the Russian empire. The idea
behind this was that it would be easier for him to settle there alone,
make all the arrangements and the wife with 8 children would join in
2-3 years, when everything is ready. It was a popular state of mind at
that time and it could work, if not for the reason #2.
2. In 1914 WWI broke out, followed by two Russian revolutions and
Civil War. These were really hard times, and travelling via Europe was
an enormous challenge, full of life dangers.
3. It was not before 1924 that my grand grandfather managed to invite
his family to the US, However, the Bolsheviks did not give permits to
children above 18. So, the 3 elder children had to stay in the USSR,
including my grandfather who had married and born a child (my mom) by
this time,
4. The 3rd brother that was still single managed to escape >from the
USSR in 1925 via Latvia, being smuggled in a ship's cargo deck,
reached Canada and only then joined the family in Cleveland, OH.

All these challenges were naturally on top of the cost of move.
And I believe that almost every family had to overcome its own hurdles.

BR,
Alex Girshovich
Jerusalem Israel.
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