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Re: Is Vogelhut A German Word? #germany

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 10/17/2008 se-meyer@northwestern.edu writes:
"I have long wondered about the origin of one of my ancestral names:
VOGELHUT (also spelled Vogelhuth and Fogelhut), which appears as a surname in
American, German, Austrian, Polish, Hungarian/Slovakian and French records.
I believe the word "vogelhut" happens to be a Dutch word meaning aviary. To
my knowledge "vogelhut" is not a modern German word, but is anyone aware of
this word in older German usage?"

==Vogel is German for "bird"; Hut for "hat." Vogelhut could be a man who
wears or sells a birdtalker's hat. The name is not listed in Lars Menk's
Dictionary of German Jewish Surnames. Menk thinks Vogel may be derived
as a back formation >from the Jewish f. name Vogel as a translation of
the Hebrew name Tzippora, but I tend to support those who believe that
Vogel/Voeglein is actually derived >from the Romance name Violetta. Menk
thinks Vogel may also be derived >from the name Rafael -> Foe'el -> Vogel.

==My initial guess: >from someone who sported gaudy bird fethers on his
hat. Take your pick.

Michael Bernet, New York mbernet@aol.com


German SIG #Germany Re: Is Vogelhut A German Word? #germany

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 10/17/2008 se-meyer@northwestern.edu writes:
"I have long wondered about the origin of one of my ancestral names:
VOGELHUT (also spelled Vogelhuth and Fogelhut), which appears as a surname in
American, German, Austrian, Polish, Hungarian/Slovakian and French records.
I believe the word "vogelhut" happens to be a Dutch word meaning aviary. To
my knowledge "vogelhut" is not a modern German word, but is anyone aware of
this word in older German usage?"

==Vogel is German for "bird"; Hut for "hat." Vogelhut could be a man who
wears or sells a birdtalker's hat. The name is not listed in Lars Menk's
Dictionary of German Jewish Surnames. Menk thinks Vogel may be derived
as a back formation >from the Jewish f. name Vogel as a translation of
the Hebrew name Tzippora, but I tend to support those who believe that
Vogel/Voeglein is actually derived >from the Romance name Violetta. Menk
thinks Vogel may also be derived >from the name Rafael -> Foe'el -> Vogel.

==My initial guess: >from someone who sported gaudy bird fethers on his
hat. Take your pick.

Michael Bernet, New York mbernet@aol.com


The Archives of the Jewish community of Vienna #general

Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
 

Before WWII Vienna with its 175,000 Jews was the third largest Jewish
community in Europe, however by the end of the war only a few thousand
were left. The official body representing Vienna's Jews was the
Israelite Religious Community, known as the Israelitische
Kultusgemeinde Wien (IKG). This was a large organization with many
departments, including registration of births, marriages and deaths
(BMD), upkeep of synagogues and cemeteries etc.

Fortunately for us the huge archive of the IKG survived the war more
or less intact, and since the re established IKG was unable to look
after it, a large part was transferred in the 1950s to the Archive for
the History of the Jewish People in Jerusalem.

The BMD records remained in Vienna with the IKG and in the 1980s these
were microfilmed by the Family History Library. In recent years the
Holocaust Museum in Washington started to microfilm some of the
records pertaining to the period 1938-1945 and this project is still
going on. With the cooperation of people >from various institutions I
have compiled a short list of the type, location and accessibility of
the records and this article can be seen on the web page of the
Austria-Czech SIG, but you can go directly to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/ikgarchive.html
Henry Wellisch
Toronto


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Archives of the Jewish community of Vienna #general

Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
 

Before WWII Vienna with its 175,000 Jews was the third largest Jewish
community in Europe, however by the end of the war only a few thousand
were left. The official body representing Vienna's Jews was the
Israelite Religious Community, known as the Israelitische
Kultusgemeinde Wien (IKG). This was a large organization with many
departments, including registration of births, marriages and deaths
(BMD), upkeep of synagogues and cemeteries etc.

Fortunately for us the huge archive of the IKG survived the war more
or less intact, and since the re established IKG was unable to look
after it, a large part was transferred in the 1950s to the Archive for
the History of the Jewish People in Jerusalem.

The BMD records remained in Vienna with the IKG and in the 1980s these
were microfilmed by the Family History Library. In recent years the
Holocaust Museum in Washington started to microfilm some of the
records pertaining to the period 1938-1945 and this project is still
going on. With the cooperation of people >from various institutions I
have compiled a short list of the type, location and accessibility of
the records and this article can be seen on the web page of the
Austria-Czech SIG, but you can go directly to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/ikgarchive.html
Henry Wellisch
Toronto


Re: Finding next of kin using (US) SSDI #general

Gary Mokotoff: <mokotoff@...>
 

I use the Social Security Death Index to find next of kin using the
following steps. Given the last place of residence and death date, I assume
the person was buried in a cemetery near the last place of residence. I get
the death certificate of the person which includes the name of the informant
and the place of burial. The informant might be enough to find next of kin.
Otherwise I contact the cemetery. They will either give you information
about the next of kin or will be willing to forward a letter to the next of
kin. If this last step does not work, most Jews are buried in society plots
and I get the name/address of the society. Invariably they will give you the
name of the next of kin. It does not always work. Anyone of the steps
described may not apply to your specific case.

Gary Mokotoff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Finding next of kin using (US) SSDI #general

Gary Mokotoff: <mokotoff@...>
 

I use the Social Security Death Index to find next of kin using the
following steps. Given the last place of residence and death date, I assume
the person was buried in a cemetery near the last place of residence. I get
the death certificate of the person which includes the name of the informant
and the place of burial. The informant might be enough to find next of kin.
Otherwise I contact the cemetery. They will either give you information
about the next of kin or will be willing to forward a letter to the next of
kin. If this last step does not work, most Jews are buried in society plots
and I get the name/address of the society. Invariably they will give you the
name of the next of kin. It does not always work. Anyone of the steps
described may not apply to your specific case.

Gary Mokotoff


Louis SELIG - Born 1910 Germany - Died 1985 Baltimore #general

Linda Shefler
 

Louis M. SELIG, born 1910 in Germany, died 1985 in Baltimore, submitted a
Page of Testimony for his father Aron SELIG in 1978. Aron SELIG was the son
of Marcus SELIG and Caroline nee MARX. Caroline was the sister of my gg
grandfather.

I would very much like to hear >from anyone who might be familiar with either
Louis, his family, or other descendants of Marcus and Caroline.

Please respond privately.
Thank you in advance.

Linda Silverman Shefler
Moshav Mishmeret
linda.shefler@gmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Louis SELIG - Born 1910 Germany - Died 1985 Baltimore #general

Linda Shefler
 

Louis M. SELIG, born 1910 in Germany, died 1985 in Baltimore, submitted a
Page of Testimony for his father Aron SELIG in 1978. Aron SELIG was the son
of Marcus SELIG and Caroline nee MARX. Caroline was the sister of my gg
grandfather.

I would very much like to hear >from anyone who might be familiar with either
Louis, his family, or other descendants of Marcus and Caroline.

Please respond privately.
Thank you in advance.

Linda Silverman Shefler
Moshav Mishmeret
linda.shefler@gmail.com


BLUMENREICHS & LAXES from Prussia & New York #general

roberta.kendall@...
 

Hello all,

I am a descendant of Joseph BLUMENREICH and Edel WOLFF, who lived in
Gleiwitz,Prussia ~1810. They had the following children:

-Libette/Loene BLUMENREICH DOB 1819
-Rosalia BLUMENREICH DOB unknown
-Loebel/Louis BLUMENREICH DOB 1821
-Wilhelm BLUMENREICH DOB 1829

Loebel/Louis married Rosalie HAHN in 1850 and they had 5 children, all
born in the 1850's:
Marlke, Gustave Siegfried, Hulda, Charles, & ______ BLUMENREICH.
Hulda may have been born in Jaworska, Grossherzogtum
Krakau.

Gustave Siegfried BLUMENREICH was my great-grandfather. He was born
in 1853 in Gleiwitz and was a cousin of my great-grandmother, Amalie
LAX, who is descended >from Theodore and Charlotte LAX >from Neumarkt &
Posen, Germany. Theodore immigrated alone to New York in the early
1860's and Charlotte and the rest of the children (Heinrich, Amalie,
Robert, and William LAX) followed shortly after.

I believe my g-grandparents had an arranged marriage. Gustave
Siegfried BLUMENREICH immigrated to New York in 1875 he married my
g-grandmother shortly after.

All of the BLUMENREICH and LAX siblings (there were many) eventually
moved to New York; some lived in the Niagara area of New York.
Gustave Siegfried and Theodore went into the liquor business and ended
up with 10 saloons in the Bronx at the turn of the century.

I believe I have BLUMENREICH and LAX relatives in New York or possibly
Michigan, but have not been successful in locating them.

Please contact me at roberta.kendall@gmail.com if these names sound familiar.

Thanks very much, Roberta Kendall
Northern California


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BLUMENREICHS & LAXES from Prussia & New York #general

roberta.kendall@...
 

Hello all,

I am a descendant of Joseph BLUMENREICH and Edel WOLFF, who lived in
Gleiwitz,Prussia ~1810. They had the following children:

-Libette/Loene BLUMENREICH DOB 1819
-Rosalia BLUMENREICH DOB unknown
-Loebel/Louis BLUMENREICH DOB 1821
-Wilhelm BLUMENREICH DOB 1829

Loebel/Louis married Rosalie HAHN in 1850 and they had 5 children, all
born in the 1850's:
Marlke, Gustave Siegfried, Hulda, Charles, & ______ BLUMENREICH.
Hulda may have been born in Jaworska, Grossherzogtum
Krakau.

Gustave Siegfried BLUMENREICH was my great-grandfather. He was born
in 1853 in Gleiwitz and was a cousin of my great-grandmother, Amalie
LAX, who is descended >from Theodore and Charlotte LAX >from Neumarkt &
Posen, Germany. Theodore immigrated alone to New York in the early
1860's and Charlotte and the rest of the children (Heinrich, Amalie,
Robert, and William LAX) followed shortly after.

I believe my g-grandparents had an arranged marriage. Gustave
Siegfried BLUMENREICH immigrated to New York in 1875 he married my
g-grandmother shortly after.

All of the BLUMENREICH and LAX siblings (there were many) eventually
moved to New York; some lived in the Niagara area of New York.
Gustave Siegfried and Theodore went into the liquor business and ended
up with 10 saloons in the Bronx at the turn of the century.

I believe I have BLUMENREICH and LAX relatives in New York or possibly
Michigan, but have not been successful in locating them.

Please contact me at roberta.kendall@gmail.com if these names sound familiar.

Thanks very much, Roberta Kendall
Northern California


Re: Next of kin SSDI #general

Peggy Morrow
 

"I found someone on the Social Security Death Index who I believe is a
member of a lost branch of my family. The death has a (V) so it means
someone verified it. Is there a way to find the next of kin of someone
if I know the details >from the SSDI so I can find someone still around
in that branch?"

Dovie,

Once I found a lost relative in the SSDI, I was able to use the date of
death to find their obituary in the local newspaper. The obituary may
be online through the newspaper's web site or you can contact the local
public library and ask them to search for you. The obituary provided
enough information that I was able to find the family using an online
white pages search.

Good luck with your search!

Peggy Morrow
Hoffman Estates, IL
Researching BRETTSCHNEIDER BRETSZNEIDER GELLER >from Korolowka
(Oleyovo-Korolevka), Galicia and St. Louis; MORROWITZ MOROVITZ MORROW
GOLDSTEIN >from Iasi, Romania and Philadelphia; KORNFIELD KORNFELD from
Bardejov, Hungary and Chicago, EDELMAN and NEUMAN >from Budapest Hungary
and Chicago; KRAMER >from Galicia and Chicago


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Next of kin SSDI #general

Peggy Morrow
 

"I found someone on the Social Security Death Index who I believe is a
member of a lost branch of my family. The death has a (V) so it means
someone verified it. Is there a way to find the next of kin of someone
if I know the details >from the SSDI so I can find someone still around
in that branch?"

Dovie,

Once I found a lost relative in the SSDI, I was able to use the date of
death to find their obituary in the local newspaper. The obituary may
be online through the newspaper's web site or you can contact the local
public library and ask them to search for you. The obituary provided
enough information that I was able to find the family using an online
white pages search.

Good luck with your search!

Peggy Morrow
Hoffman Estates, IL
Researching BRETTSCHNEIDER BRETSZNEIDER GELLER >from Korolowka
(Oleyovo-Korolevka), Galicia and St. Louis; MORROWITZ MOROVITZ MORROW
GOLDSTEIN >from Iasi, Romania and Philadelphia; KORNFIELD KORNFELD from
Bardejov, Hungary and Chicago, EDELMAN and NEUMAN >from Budapest Hungary
and Chicago; KRAMER >from Galicia and Chicago


Morris MARGOLIS & Family, Long Island #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cousins,

Does anyone know of the family of Morris MARGOLIS (1906-1979). His SS
Death Certificate gives the following location: "City: Huntington;
Bay Hills; Baycrest; Beech Croft; Cold Spring Hills; Halesite; Harbor
Heights; Huntington Bay; Knollwood Beach; Lloyd Harbor; Lloyd Neck;
West Hills; Wincoma. County: Suffolk. State: NY. ZIP Code: 11743."

Morris was married to "Nan." He had two sons. I'm told that the older
son is a novelist, but doesn't use the Margolis surname. The younger
son is Joseph MARGOLIS, born in the mid-1940s. Morris was the son of
Joseph MARGOLIS & Fannie (SLOTNIK) GOLDSTEIN. Fannie was a relative
on my father's EPSTEIN side, most of whom lived in Holyoke, Massachusetts.

Best, Steve Orlen Tucson Arizona


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Morris MARGOLIS & Family, Long Island #general

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cousins,

Does anyone know of the family of Morris MARGOLIS (1906-1979). His SS
Death Certificate gives the following location: "City: Huntington;
Bay Hills; Baycrest; Beech Croft; Cold Spring Hills; Halesite; Harbor
Heights; Huntington Bay; Knollwood Beach; Lloyd Harbor; Lloyd Neck;
West Hills; Wincoma. County: Suffolk. State: NY. ZIP Code: 11743."

Morris was married to "Nan." He had two sons. I'm told that the older
son is a novelist, but doesn't use the Margolis surname. The younger
son is Joseph MARGOLIS, born in the mid-1940s. Morris was the son of
Joseph MARGOLIS & Fannie (SLOTNIK) GOLDSTEIN. Fannie was a relative
on my father's EPSTEIN side, most of whom lived in Holyoke, Massachusetts.

Best, Steve Orlen Tucson Arizona


Looking for Jennie "MARX" Born Between 1836-1843 in Hesse Darmstadt #general

Linda Shefler
 

I am looking for someone who might have a Jennie/Jenny in their family tree,
even if her maiden name is unknown. She would probably be listed as having
been born in Hesse Darmstadt. She was living with her brother and his
family in Painesville, OH outside of Cleveland, in 1860. Aaron and his
family were living in Erie, PA in 1862 when he went there to enlist in the
army during the Civil War. She might have gone there with them. So she
might have married in or around either Cleveland or Erie.

According to the 1860 census she was 17 years old (making her year of birth
1843). According to the birth records for Sterbfritz, Hesse, Germany,
Schenete MARX was born in 1836. Schenete/Sheine usually became Jennie/Jenny
in the States. So her year of birth is a bit sketchy, but it would probably
have been between 1836-1843.

If she had an occupation it would probably have been a bookbinder (according
to the 1860 census).

Chances are very good that if Jennie had a son born after 1861 his name
would have been Joseph. She would have undoubtedly named a daughter
something like Hannah or Henrietta. She might have had another son named
Aaron and another daughter named Mindel, or something similar.

Jennie is the sister of my gg grandfather Aaron J. Marx, who eventually
settled in Cleveland after the Civil War. It seems that Jennie and Aaron
were the only siblings to have some to America and I would love to find out
what happened to Jennie.

If any of these facts work with a Jennie on your tree, even if you aren't
aware of her maiden name, I would love to hear >from you and compare notes.
Perhaps we can help each other solve a mystery!

Please respond privately.
Thank you in advance for your time.

Chag sameach!

Linda Silverman Shefler
Formerly of Cary, NC
Presently Moshav Mishmeret
linda.shefler@gmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Jennie "MARX" Born Between 1836-1843 in Hesse Darmstadt #general

Linda Shefler
 

I am looking for someone who might have a Jennie/Jenny in their family tree,
even if her maiden name is unknown. She would probably be listed as having
been born in Hesse Darmstadt. She was living with her brother and his
family in Painesville, OH outside of Cleveland, in 1860. Aaron and his
family were living in Erie, PA in 1862 when he went there to enlist in the
army during the Civil War. She might have gone there with them. So she
might have married in or around either Cleveland or Erie.

According to the 1860 census she was 17 years old (making her year of birth
1843). According to the birth records for Sterbfritz, Hesse, Germany,
Schenete MARX was born in 1836. Schenete/Sheine usually became Jennie/Jenny
in the States. So her year of birth is a bit sketchy, but it would probably
have been between 1836-1843.

If she had an occupation it would probably have been a bookbinder (according
to the 1860 census).

Chances are very good that if Jennie had a son born after 1861 his name
would have been Joseph. She would have undoubtedly named a daughter
something like Hannah or Henrietta. She might have had another son named
Aaron and another daughter named Mindel, or something similar.

Jennie is the sister of my gg grandfather Aaron J. Marx, who eventually
settled in Cleveland after the Civil War. It seems that Jennie and Aaron
were the only siblings to have some to America and I would love to find out
what happened to Jennie.

If any of these facts work with a Jennie on your tree, even if you aren't
aware of her maiden name, I would love to hear >from you and compare notes.
Perhaps we can help each other solve a mystery!

Please respond privately.
Thank you in advance for your time.

Chag sameach!

Linda Silverman Shefler
Formerly of Cary, NC
Presently Moshav Mishmeret
linda.shefler@gmail.com


Touble finding birth certificate in US #general

Bubylu@...
 

I have yet another plight and that is how can I find a birth certificate for
someone who was born in New York? We have his date of birth and his first
name but there is a little confusion as to which last name the birth
certificate has listed. Also, one of the last names has a spelling
that can be very varied. We have both names but the spelling of one
has us confused. It seems that the father came to America using the
name he was raised with in Europe which was his mother's maiden name,
a common practice for Jews. After being in America for awhile he then
took on his father's last name and the rest of the children have this
name but it is the first born that is of concern to us.

Any help or suggestions will be most appreciated.

Good luck to all of us on our searches!

Sincerely,
Lois Friedman
Bubylu@aol.com
Delray Beach, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Touble finding birth certificate in US #general

Bubylu@...
 

I have yet another plight and that is how can I find a birth certificate for
someone who was born in New York? We have his date of birth and his first
name but there is a little confusion as to which last name the birth
certificate has listed. Also, one of the last names has a spelling
that can be very varied. We have both names but the spelling of one
has us confused. It seems that the father came to America using the
name he was raised with in Europe which was his mother's maiden name,
a common practice for Jews. After being in America for awhile he then
took on his father's last name and the rest of the children have this
name but it is the first born that is of concern to us.

Any help or suggestions will be most appreciated.

Good luck to all of us on our searches!

Sincerely,
Lois Friedman
Bubylu@aol.com
Delray Beach, FL


The Archives of the Jewish community of Vienna #austria-czech

Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
 

Before WWII Vienna with its 175,000 Jews was the third largest Jewish
community in Europe, however by the end of the war only a few thousand
were left. The official body representing Vienna's Jews was the
Israelite Religious Community, known as the Israelitische
Kultusgemeinde Wien (IKG). This was a large organization with many
departments, including registration of births, marriages and deaths
(BMD), upkeep of synagogues and cemeteries etc.
Fortunately for us the huge archive of the IKG survived the war more
or less intact, and since the re established IKG was unable to look
after it, a large part was transferred in the 1950s to the Archive for
the History of the Jewish People in Jerusalem.
The BMD records remained in Vienna with the IKG and in the 1980s these
were microfilmed by the Family History Library. In recent years the
Holocaust Museum in Washington started to microfilm some of the
records pertaining to the period 1938-1945 and this project is still
going on. With the cooperation of people >from various institutions I
have compiled a short list of the type, location and accessibility of
the records and this article can be seen on the web page of the
Austria-Czech SIG, but you can go directly to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/ikgarchive.html
Henry Wellisch
Toronto


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech The Archives of the Jewish community of Vienna #austria-czech

Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
 

Before WWII Vienna with its 175,000 Jews was the third largest Jewish
community in Europe, however by the end of the war only a few thousand
were left. The official body representing Vienna's Jews was the
Israelite Religious Community, known as the Israelitische
Kultusgemeinde Wien (IKG). This was a large organization with many
departments, including registration of births, marriages and deaths
(BMD), upkeep of synagogues and cemeteries etc.
Fortunately for us the huge archive of the IKG survived the war more
or less intact, and since the re established IKG was unable to look
after it, a large part was transferred in the 1950s to the Archive for
the History of the Jewish People in Jerusalem.
The BMD records remained in Vienna with the IKG and in the 1980s these
were microfilmed by the Family History Library. In recent years the
Holocaust Museum in Washington started to microfilm some of the
records pertaining to the period 1938-1945 and this project is still
going on. With the cooperation of people >from various institutions I
have compiled a short list of the type, location and accessibility of
the records and this article can be seen on the web page of the
Austria-Czech SIG, but you can go directly to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/ikgarchive.html
Henry Wellisch
Toronto