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Dr Herzl Verien #hungary

Stuart Kaufer
 

Does anyone have any information about this group. This is one of
many small cemeteries at
Waldheim in Chicago. No one seems to know where the records of this
group disappeared to.

My maternal grandparents and other Stein family members are buried there.

thanks

stuartkaufer@gmail.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Dr Herzl Verien #hungary

Stuart Kaufer
 

Does anyone have any information about this group. This is one of
many small cemeteries at
Waldheim in Chicago. No one seems to know where the records of this
group disappeared to.

My maternal grandparents and other Stein family members are buried there.

thanks

stuartkaufer@gmail.com


Revision list dates #lithuania

David W. Perle
 

Matthew Rosenberg posted about revision list entries for his family which
predate when [he believes that] they were born, wondering about errors
in transcription.

While possible, I think that it's more likely that the believed dates
of their birth are probably wrong. I've also come across this sort of
thing, a great-grandfather of mine in particular. A few U.S. records
after he immigrated here consistently provide his age/year of birth
in Lithuania, but then I found two or three Lithuanian revision lists
showing him as having been something like 5 years older!

Explanations for why people become "younger" after immigrating vary.
One is that people just didn't always actually know their ages or dates
of birth, so they guessed that bit when they immigrated to a place like
the U.S. where that's a bureaucratic stat that's asked of them. Another
explanation is that women in particular--especially Lithuanian--were
very vain about age and kept their ages lower, and their husbands did
the same just so that they wouldn't "be" so much older than their wives!

I've concluded that my great-grandfather was *probably* a few years older
than his family ever knew. In the end...who knows!

David Perle
Washington, DC


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Revision list dates #lithuania

David W. Perle
 

Matthew Rosenberg posted about revision list entries for his family which
predate when [he believes that] they were born, wondering about errors
in transcription.

While possible, I think that it's more likely that the believed dates
of their birth are probably wrong. I've also come across this sort of
thing, a great-grandfather of mine in particular. A few U.S. records
after he immigrated here consistently provide his age/year of birth
in Lithuania, but then I found two or three Lithuanian revision lists
showing him as having been something like 5 years older!

Explanations for why people become "younger" after immigrating vary.
One is that people just didn't always actually know their ages or dates
of birth, so they guessed that bit when they immigrated to a place like
the U.S. where that's a bureaucratic stat that's asked of them. Another
explanation is that women in particular--especially Lithuanian--were
very vain about age and kept their ages lower, and their husbands did
the same just so that they wouldn't "be" so much older than their wives!

I've concluded that my great-grandfather was *probably* a few years older
than his family ever knew. In the end...who knows!

David Perle
Washington, DC


Re: WORTMAN #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org (Isabel Cymerman Isabelcym@aol.com) wrote on
30 aug 2014 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

Does anyone know a Sandra Lilly WORTMAN? I have a photo of her but don't
know how we are connected.
I suppose you mean "know" in the genealogical sense.
Even so you could show it to us with Jewishgen Viewmate.
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/>
Is there a photographer stamp on the picture?

You should give us more information, Isabel,
like why you think you are connected at all.

Next to date and place,
even if just which century and which continent,
you should give some data about your own tree.

Perhaps this is just her married name, so we should search for a different
birth family name altogether, and would have to know some of those in your
tree.

Even LDS familysearch
<https://familysearch.org/search/>
gives "2,251 results for Name: Sandra Lilly WORTMAN,
in Ancestral File and Pedigree Resource File"

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
exjxwxhannivoortATinterxnlxnet
(Please change the x'es to dots)
Visit [recently changed URL]: <http://synagogeenschede.nl/>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: WORTMAN #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org (Isabel Cymerman Isabelcym@aol.com) wrote on
30 aug 2014 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

Does anyone know a Sandra Lilly WORTMAN? I have a photo of her but don't
know how we are connected.
I suppose you mean "know" in the genealogical sense.
Even so you could show it to us with Jewishgen Viewmate.
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/>
Is there a photographer stamp on the picture?

You should give us more information, Isabel,
like why you think you are connected at all.

Next to date and place,
even if just which century and which continent,
you should give some data about your own tree.

Perhaps this is just her married name, so we should search for a different
birth family name altogether, and would have to know some of those in your
tree.

Even LDS familysearch
<https://familysearch.org/search/>
gives "2,251 results for Name: Sandra Lilly WORTMAN,
in Ancestral File and Pedigree Resource File"

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
exjxwxhannivoortATinterxnlxnet
(Please change the x'es to dots)
Visit [recently changed URL]: <http://synagogeenschede.nl/>


Re: Help with my great-grandmother #ukraine

Israel P
 

Karen, when you ask "is it possible" in genealogy, the answer is
almost always "yes," particularly regarding names.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem
allmyforeparents.blogspot.com

On 30 Aug 2014 at 0:04, Ukraine SIG digest wrote:

My great-grandmother died before my Dad was born. She was the second
wife of my great-grandfather. I never knew what her surname was.

I wondering if if my grandfathers middle name might offer a clue. He
was born 12/24/1904 in Nemirov Ukraine(Pale of the settlement) and he,
along with he parents and most siblings came to the US in 1914.

Is it possible his middle name could have been given in honor of his
mother's family?


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Help with my great-grandmother #ukraine

Israel P
 

Karen, when you ask "is it possible" in genealogy, the answer is
almost always "yes," particularly regarding names.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem
allmyforeparents.blogspot.com

On 30 Aug 2014 at 0:04, Ukraine SIG digest wrote:

My great-grandmother died before my Dad was born. She was the second
wife of my great-grandfather. I never knew what her surname was.

I wondering if if my grandfathers middle name might offer a clue. He
was born 12/24/1904 in Nemirov Ukraine(Pale of the settlement) and he,
along with he parents and most siblings came to the US in 1914.

Is it possible his middle name could have been given in honor of his
mother's family?


Re: Help with my great-grandmother #ukraine

Karen Steinfeld
 

Karen Baker wrote:

My great-grandmother died before my Dad was born. She was the second
wife of my great-grandfather. I never knew what her surname was.

I wondering if if my grandfathers middle name might offer a clue. He
was born 12/24/1904 in Nemirov Ukraine(Pale of the settlement) and he,
along with he parents and most siblings came to the US in 1914.

Is it possible his middle name could have been given in honor of his
mother's family?


Yes, this is possible. I have this situation in my family who came >from the
Cherkassy District and settled in Fall River, Massachusetts in the early 18
90s. In this situation the wife's maiden name was DUPLANSKY but was shortened
to TOPAL in the US. The immigrant couple had a son in 1903 in Fall River
and gave him the middle name of Topal.

Karen Steinfeld
Rockville, Maryland

Researching UDITSKY, LESCHINSKY, BRYNES, BREINES, PLOTKE, EPPELBAUM


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: Help with my great-grandmother #ukraine

Karen Steinfeld
 

Karen Baker wrote:

My great-grandmother died before my Dad was born. She was the second
wife of my great-grandfather. I never knew what her surname was.

I wondering if if my grandfathers middle name might offer a clue. He
was born 12/24/1904 in Nemirov Ukraine(Pale of the settlement) and he,
along with he parents and most siblings came to the US in 1914.

Is it possible his middle name could have been given in honor of his
mother's family?


Yes, this is possible. I have this situation in my family who came >from the
Cherkassy District and settled in Fall River, Massachusetts in the early 18
90s. In this situation the wife's maiden name was DUPLANSKY but was shortened
to TOPAL in the US. The immigrant couple had a son in 1903 in Fall River
and gave him the middle name of Topal.

Karen Steinfeld
Rockville, Maryland

Researching UDITSKY, LESCHINSKY, BRYNES, BREINES, PLOTKE, EPPELBAUM


JGSPalm Beach County, FL - September meeting announcement #general

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Palm Beach County, FL (JGSPBCI)
September Membership Meeting Announcement
Opening meeting for the 2014-15 season - our 24th year

When: Wednesday, September 10, 2014
Where: South County Civic Center, 16700 Jog Road, Delray Beach, FL

12:30PM - 1 PM: Meeting begins with Brick Wall Session, led by
Co-founder P.P. Mona Morris, and Immediate PP Mark Jacobson. Be
prepared with any question regarding your research, which has had
you "hitting your head" against the Brick Wall - and our expert
panelists will give you a lead to get you started breaking down
that wall.

1PM-3PM: Brief Business meeting followed by Program

Program:IAJGS [International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies] Conference Report

President Cindy Potter Taylor and Board Member Natalie Hamburg
will present a Power Point program and lecture "What's New in
Genealogy", an overview of the IAJGS Conference held this past
July/August in Salt Lake City, Nevada, - home of the "Mountain of
Records". Their presentation of Conference events will include
research tips for seasoned researchers as well as beginners.

Guests are welcome. There is a $5.00 Guest Fee, which may be
applied toward Membership.

Visit our website for additional information:
www.jgspalmbeachcounty.org
or contact Sylvia Furshman Nusinov, curiousyl@bellsouth.net, or
Membership Chair Marilyn Newman, mnewman714@gmail.com

Please note: The tenth edition of our revised and updated Genealogy
Resources Workbook is available for purchase. Our Speakers Bureau
has several dates open for Spring 2015.(see our website)

Submitted by:
Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita
JGSPBCI, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSPalm Beach County, FL - September meeting announcement #general

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Palm Beach County, FL (JGSPBCI)
September Membership Meeting Announcement
Opening meeting for the 2014-15 season - our 24th year

When: Wednesday, September 10, 2014
Where: South County Civic Center, 16700 Jog Road, Delray Beach, FL

12:30PM - 1 PM: Meeting begins with Brick Wall Session, led by
Co-founder P.P. Mona Morris, and Immediate PP Mark Jacobson. Be
prepared with any question regarding your research, which has had
you "hitting your head" against the Brick Wall - and our expert
panelists will give you a lead to get you started breaking down
that wall.

1PM-3PM: Brief Business meeting followed by Program

Program:IAJGS [International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies] Conference Report

President Cindy Potter Taylor and Board Member Natalie Hamburg
will present a Power Point program and lecture "What's New in
Genealogy", an overview of the IAJGS Conference held this past
July/August in Salt Lake City, Nevada, - home of the "Mountain of
Records". Their presentation of Conference events will include
research tips for seasoned researchers as well as beginners.

Guests are welcome. There is a $5.00 Guest Fee, which may be
applied toward Membership.

Visit our website for additional information:
www.jgspalmbeachcounty.org
or contact Sylvia Furshman Nusinov, curiousyl@bellsouth.net, or
Membership Chair Marilyn Newman, mnewman714@gmail.com

Please note: The tenth edition of our revised and updated Genealogy
Resources Workbook is available for purchase. Our Speakers Bureau
has several dates open for Spring 2015.(see our website)

Submitted by:
Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita
JGSPBCI, Florida


Purnewitschi #austria-czech

E Feinstein
 

In the book Jews in the Habsburg Armed Forces 1788-1918 there is a photograph of the grave of a soldier.
His name was Ludwig Naftale >from the Infantry Regiment No. 62 and he died in November 1916 and was
buried near the front in the town of Purnewitchi. Does anyone know where this town is or have any
information about this soldier? Please let me know
Eric FEINSTEIN
Clifton, New Jersey


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Purnewitschi #austria-czech

E Feinstein
 

In the book Jews in the Habsburg Armed Forces 1788-1918 there is a photograph of the grave of a soldier.
His name was Ludwig Naftale >from the Infantry Regiment No. 62 and he died in November 1916 and was
buried near the front in the town of Purnewitchi. Does anyone know where this town is or have any
information about this soldier? Please let me know
Eric FEINSTEIN
Clifton, New Jersey


Czech army chaplains #austria-czech

blankdavid@...
 

My uncle Rabbi Hugo Stransky was such a chaplain. See my website for his bio. etc.

David Blank
Jerusalem
-------------------------------------
www.blankgenealogy.com
www.gladysanddavid.com
www.gushkatif.net
www.jewsofhorn.com


Re: (Austria) AKM Index of Musicians Found- Red-Lined Out Jewish Composers #austria-czech

sharla.levine@...
 

Is this list available to us? If so, how can it be accessed?

Sharla Levine
Concord, MA, USA


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Czech army chaplains #austria-czech

blankdavid@...
 

My uncle Rabbi Hugo Stransky was such a chaplain. See my website for his bio. etc.

David Blank
Jerusalem
-------------------------------------
www.blankgenealogy.com
www.gladysanddavid.com
www.gushkatif.net
www.jewsofhorn.com


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: (Austria) AKM Index of Musicians Found- Red-Lined Out Jewish Composers #austria-czech

sharla.levine@...
 

Is this list available to us? If so, how can it be accessed?

Sharla Levine
Concord, MA, USA


Re: Translation of German Vital records - Galicia and Bukovina #germany

Andreas J Schwab, Dr <andreas.schwab@...>
 

Some time ago, I translated the headers of Birth or Death records
from Austrian Galicia and Bukovina. The translations are hosted at
the website of GerSiIG member Max Heffler. They can be found at:

http://www.texsys.com/HoeflerGottesfeldPapers/BirthHeader.htm
http://www.texsys.com/HoeflerGottesfeldPapers/DeathHeader.htm

I have not posted the headers for marriage records (yet).

Andreas Schwab, Beaconsfield, Canada <andreas.schwab@mcgill.ca>


German SIG #Germany re: Translation of German Vital records - Galicia and Bukovina #germany

Andreas J Schwab, Dr <andreas.schwab@...>
 

Some time ago, I translated the headers of Birth or Death records
from Austrian Galicia and Bukovina. The translations are hosted at
the website of GerSiIG member Max Heffler. They can be found at:

http://www.texsys.com/HoeflerGottesfeldPapers/BirthHeader.htm
http://www.texsys.com/HoeflerGottesfeldPapers/DeathHeader.htm

I have not posted the headers for marriage records (yet).

Andreas Schwab, Beaconsfield, Canada <andreas.schwab@mcgill.ca>

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