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Re: Photo of Mondorf Synagogue #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Stephen Esrati" <stevsta@ameritech.net> wrote

The researcher who has sent me all the material about the Mondorf cemetery
needs pictures of the synagogue destroyed by the Nazis on the night of the
pogrom in 1938. (He refuses to call it Kristalnacht.)
Can anyone recommend a source for pictures of destroyed German synagogues?
--
This site is in German, but I think that it gives an impression of the
former synagogue.

http://members.aol.com/glangen/staetten/st_syna.htm

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Photo of Mondorf Synagogue #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Stephen Esrati" <stevsta@ameritech.net> wrote

The researcher who has sent me all the material about the Mondorf cemetery
needs pictures of the synagogue destroyed by the Nazis on the night of the
pogrom in 1938. (He refuses to call it Kristalnacht.)
Can anyone recommend a source for pictures of destroyed German synagogues?
--
This site is in German, but I think that it gives an impression of the
former synagogue.

http://members.aol.com/glangen/staetten/st_syna.htm

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


BLAS/BLASS Family from Bardejov,Slovakia #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear H-Siggers and Genners
I recently discovered at The Auschwitz Museum website
a certain
Hermann KOENIGSBUCH(1912-1942) who was born in
Michalovce. KOENIGSBUCH is a unique surname, all it's
bearers hail >from Brzesko,Poland. My mother's maiden
name was KOENIGSBUCH.
I saw at Michalovce's Yizkor book reference to
KOENIGSBUCH.
About a month ago I learned that at the Michalovce
cemetery there is a grave of Chaya ,daughter of Isser
and the wife of Joseph KOENIGSBUCH. She died in 1934.
3 days ago I found at Yad VaShem Pages of Testimony
that Hermann KOENIGSBUCH's parents were Joseph K. and
Helene BLAS.
Joseph is probably the brother of my grandfather,Ascher K.
I have no idea where this BLAS family hails from.
There is no mention of them at the Michalovce Yizkor
book so I assue that she was >from somewhere else.
But I browsed today through the Bardejov Yizkor book
because my late father in law,David Apotheker was born
there.By sheer chance I saw there a the name of a
certain Israel Isser BLAS(p. 89).I checked quickly at
Yad Vashem and found 1 PoT for Adela
BLASS >from Bardejov.
I just wonder whether any one on the list with
Bardejov roots can enlighten me about this family?
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BLAS/BLASS Family from Bardejov,Slovakia #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear H-Siggers and Genners
I recently discovered at The Auschwitz Museum website
a certain
Hermann KOENIGSBUCH(1912-1942) who was born in
Michalovce. KOENIGSBUCH is a unique surname, all it's
bearers hail >from Brzesko,Poland. My mother's maiden
name was KOENIGSBUCH.
I saw at Michalovce's Yizkor book reference to
KOENIGSBUCH.
About a month ago I learned that at the Michalovce
cemetery there is a grave of Chaya ,daughter of Isser
and the wife of Joseph KOENIGSBUCH. She died in 1934.
3 days ago I found at Yad VaShem Pages of Testimony
that Hermann KOENIGSBUCH's parents were Joseph K. and
Helene BLAS.
Joseph is probably the brother of my grandfather,Ascher K.
I have no idea where this BLAS family hails from.
There is no mention of them at the Michalovce Yizkor
book so I assue that she was >from somewhere else.
But I browsed today through the Bardejov Yizkor book
because my late father in law,David Apotheker was born
there.By sheer chance I saw there a the name of a
certain Israel Isser BLAS(p. 89).I checked quickly at
Yad Vashem and found 1 PoT for Adela
BLASS >from Bardejov.
I just wonder whether any one on the list with
Bardejov roots can enlighten me about this family?
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


Johann Henrich KLEIN 1704 #general

Doug & Amber <dmahelms@...>
 

I am looking for information on:

Johann Henrich KLEIN
born:1704 in Zweibrucken, Germany
married to: Anna Margaretha GRIMM on 10/23/1729 in Kussel, Zweibrucken,
Germany
died: 1810 in Adams, Pennsylvania

They had eight children:

Capt. Daniel LITTLE born 1731 in Kussel, Zweibrucken, Germany (my ancestor)
Johann Peter Little born 9/16/1734 in Kussel, Zweibrucken, Germany
3 unknown Littles born about 1736/1740/1742
Mary Little born about 1744
Jacob Klein born about 1746
David Little born about 1748
Henry Little born about 1750

The parents carried the Klein name but it seems they changed all but one of
the children's names, maybe when they came to Pennsylvania? Any information
would be appreciated, I don't know if they are Jewish.
Thank you,
Amber Helms


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Johann Henrich KLEIN 1704 #general

Doug & Amber <dmahelms@...>
 

I am looking for information on:

Johann Henrich KLEIN
born:1704 in Zweibrucken, Germany
married to: Anna Margaretha GRIMM on 10/23/1729 in Kussel, Zweibrucken,
Germany
died: 1810 in Adams, Pennsylvania

They had eight children:

Capt. Daniel LITTLE born 1731 in Kussel, Zweibrucken, Germany (my ancestor)
Johann Peter Little born 9/16/1734 in Kussel, Zweibrucken, Germany
3 unknown Littles born about 1736/1740/1742
Mary Little born about 1744
Jacob Klein born about 1746
David Little born about 1748
Henry Little born about 1750

The parents carried the Klein name but it seems they changed all but one of
the children's names, maybe when they came to Pennsylvania? Any information
would be appreciated, I don't know if they are Jewish.
Thank you,
Amber Helms


VRI web site query requires e-mail address! #lithuania

Joel Ratner
 

The following message was received three times over a period of just over a
week >from the Vital Records Indexing (VRI) web site query page.

'first_name','samuel'
'last_name','kagan/cohen'
'Email',''
'Address1',''
'address2',''
'city',''
'state',''
'Zip_Code',''
'country',''
'Phone',''
'Cell',''
'Town1','kovne'
'Town2','vilna'
'Town3','arogala'
'query','how to get records?'

Sam Kagan - please submit another query and include your e-mail address. I
have no way of contacting you privately unless you complete the form.

Concerning the question "how to get records?", please read the information
presented on the VRI web site.


Joel Ratner

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania VRI web site query requires e-mail address! #lithuania

Joel Ratner
 

The following message was received three times over a period of just over a
week >from the Vital Records Indexing (VRI) web site query page.

'first_name','samuel'
'last_name','kagan/cohen'
'Email',''
'Address1',''
'address2',''
'city',''
'state',''
'Zip_Code',''
'country',''
'Phone',''
'Cell',''
'Town1','kovne'
'Town2','vilna'
'Town3','arogala'
'query','how to get records?'

Sam Kagan - please submit another query and include your e-mail address. I
have no way of contacting you privately unless you complete the form.

Concerning the question "how to get records?", please read the information
presented on the VRI web site.


Joel Ratner

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Re: Re Cemeteries in CT #southafrica

Richard Newman <genserch@...>
 

there is report of the young scientist who developed a compass which points
towards Jerusalem, seeming defying the laws of global magnetism

Richard

Thanks Richard for your explanation.
I still maintain that the layout is incorrect and my
questions is "why". Cape Town doesn't have a
Yemenite community!

This subject in fact cropped up in the English Press
in Israel last week, although the
article was a general one applicable to the world,
hence my remembering that I had also
some time ago queried Cape Town.

In Israel all heads of Tombstones face the hills of
Jerusalem. Maybe that is where "I will lift up mine
eyes unto the hills" comes from! In Jerusalem itself
the facing is towards the Temple Mount.

Beryl Baleson.
Israel.


Subject: RE: Cemeteries in Cape Town
From: "Richard Newman" <genserch@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:30:42 +0000

the story I heard was that because of the layout, the graves in nearly all
the cemeteries do not face Jerusalem. The graves in Pinelands 1 &2 are
facing Table Mountain, in keeping with the Psalm, I will lift up mine eyes
unto the hills.......
The burials are placed in alternate rows as all to face this direction.

Of course, the bigger question around the observant world is are the feet
closest to Jerusalem, or the head. If the head faces Jerusalem then the
rising body, b'viat hamashiach and tchiyas hamesim, would have their backs
to Jerusalem---not good. I have heard the Yeminites have the feet nearest
to Jerusalem, thus, upon arising would be facing in the correct direction.

Hope this adds some clarification, or othwerwise,

Richard Newman

I have asked this question on numerous
occasions and have not received a satisfactory
reply. Hopefully, this message will now bring the
answer for which I am looking.

All over the world the head of a Tombstone faces
Jerusalem, which means that Tombstones are one
next to the other in rows. In Pinelands cemetery in
particular, Tombstones are back to back. Therefore
not all heads of Tombstones are facing Jerusalem as is in Jewish
Tradition.

Is there a reason that Cape Town cemeteries are
different >from the norm?

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica RE: Re Cemeteries in CT #southafrica

Richard Newman <genserch@...>
 

there is report of the young scientist who developed a compass which points
towards Jerusalem, seeming defying the laws of global magnetism

Richard

Thanks Richard for your explanation.
I still maintain that the layout is incorrect and my
questions is "why". Cape Town doesn't have a
Yemenite community!

This subject in fact cropped up in the English Press
in Israel last week, although the
article was a general one applicable to the world,
hence my remembering that I had also
some time ago queried Cape Town.

In Israel all heads of Tombstones face the hills of
Jerusalem. Maybe that is where "I will lift up mine
eyes unto the hills" comes from! In Jerusalem itself
the facing is towards the Temple Mount.

Beryl Baleson.
Israel.


Subject: RE: Cemeteries in Cape Town
From: "Richard Newman" <genserch@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:30:42 +0000

the story I heard was that because of the layout, the graves in nearly all
the cemeteries do not face Jerusalem. The graves in Pinelands 1 &2 are
facing Table Mountain, in keeping with the Psalm, I will lift up mine eyes
unto the hills.......
The burials are placed in alternate rows as all to face this direction.

Of course, the bigger question around the observant world is are the feet
closest to Jerusalem, or the head. If the head faces Jerusalem then the
rising body, b'viat hamashiach and tchiyas hamesim, would have their backs
to Jerusalem---not good. I have heard the Yeminites have the feet nearest
to Jerusalem, thus, upon arising would be facing in the correct direction.

Hope this adds some clarification, or othwerwise,

Richard Newman

I have asked this question on numerous
occasions and have not received a satisfactory
reply. Hopefully, this message will now bring the
answer for which I am looking.

All over the world the head of a Tombstone faces
Jerusalem, which means that Tombstones are one
next to the other in rows. In Pinelands cemetery in
particular, Tombstones are back to back. Therefore
not all heads of Tombstones are facing Jerusalem as is in Jewish
Tradition.

Is there a reason that Cape Town cemeteries are
different >from the norm?

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il


Yad Vashem-Auschwitz Museum-Additional Data #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Following my recent posting I got several enquiries
frow which I concluded that I probably did not explain
myself properly.

Yad Vashem is posting in the Pages of Testimony(PoT)
not only testimonies submitted by individuals but also
data about victims >from other sources. They took the
monumental work of Klarsfeld about the deportation of
Jews >from France which includes tens of thousands of
names and posted them as seperate pages of testimony.
Did did the same with a thick volume published in
Germany about German Jews who perished in the
Holocaust.The Auschwitz Museum published in 1995 a
book which includes about 69,000 names of people who
perished there.Later they put that data on the
Museum's website. Recently I realized that the data
which was posted on that website was only partial.
Yad Vashem did an important job,they posted the data
from the book as seperate PoTs. The book gives also
the names of both parents of the victim.

In other words,if you enter the Yad Vashem website,you
do not look for the Auschwitz list!!!You just type the
surname,given name and place of the person you are
looking for. If he was included in the Auschwitz
book(and website)-his name will show up as it is a
page of testimony.

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


JRI Poland #Poland Yad Vashem-Auschwitz Museum-Additional Data #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Following my recent posting I got several enquiries
frow which I concluded that I probably did not explain
myself properly.

Yad Vashem is posting in the Pages of Testimony(PoT)
not only testimonies submitted by individuals but also
data about victims >from other sources. They took the
monumental work of Klarsfeld about the deportation of
Jews >from France which includes tens of thousands of
names and posted them as seperate pages of testimony.
Did did the same with a thick volume published in
Germany about German Jews who perished in the
Holocaust.The Auschwitz Museum published in 1995 a
book which includes about 69,000 names of people who
perished there.Later they put that data on the
Museum's website. Recently I realized that the data
which was posted on that website was only partial.
Yad Vashem did an important job,they posted the data
from the book as seperate PoTs. The book gives also
the names of both parents of the victim.

In other words,if you enter the Yad Vashem website,you
do not look for the Auschwitz list!!!You just type the
surname,given name and place of the person you are
looking for. If he was included in the Auschwitz
book(and website)-his name will show up as it is a
page of testimony.

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


ROSNER From Krakow #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

My name is Jacob Rosen >from Jerusalem. I am the son of
the late Leon Leib Rosner (1903-1999) who was the
youngest child of Jakub Chiel Rosner and Ittla Borgenicht. My
father was convinced until his death that he was the
only survivor >from his family and barely spoke about
his brother and 4 sisters. He never mentioned their
given names or married names.

Last year I managed to find out that a son of my
father's sister Channa, Reuven Orschutzer (b.1925),
survived and lives in Israel. He gave me the names of
the other siblings of my father. Following that I
discovered via Yad Vashem that the son of his brother
Abraham Meyer, Rudy (b.1920), survived as well and lives
in Florida. We reunited last year in Jerusalem (they
had not seen each other since 1938).

Now I have more or less the list of my father's
siblings:

1. Abraham Meyer b. 1890 in Gdow .Disappeared in the
USSR.

2. Channa Orschutzer b. 1894/5 in Gdow. Perished in
the Holocaust.

3. Erna /Esther Susskind b.1896? in Gdow .Perished in
the Holocaust.

4. Beila /Berta (surname unknown) b. 1897-9 married
and lived in Tarnow. Perished in the Holocaust
Mechla/ Michalina b.1901 in Dobczyce. Was a
Communist,married at a certain stage(surname unknown).
Disappeared in USSR.

5. Leon Leib b. 1903 in Dobczyce (my father).

My grandfather Jakub Chiel Rosner after whom I am
named was born in 1866 in Dabrowa Tarnowska to Rubin
Rosner and Malka Perlberg. My grandfather moved around 1905
to Krakowwhere he had a big storehouse of coal. My two surviving
cousins are named after our ggrandfather Rubin. Mechla/Michalina
is probably named after our ggrandmother Malka.

All this info was constructed >from www.shoreshim.org,
JRI-PL, Yad Vashem and my cousins' memory.

I wonder whether any one of you came across these
names and may shed some light on the two aunts of me
whose married names are not known to me. Thanks.

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalm

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland ROSNER From Krakow #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

My name is Jacob Rosen >from Jerusalem. I am the son of
the late Leon Leib Rosner (1903-1999) who was the
youngest child of Jakub Chiel Rosner and Ittla Borgenicht. My
father was convinced until his death that he was the
only survivor >from his family and barely spoke about
his brother and 4 sisters. He never mentioned their
given names or married names.

Last year I managed to find out that a son of my
father's sister Channa, Reuven Orschutzer (b.1925),
survived and lives in Israel. He gave me the names of
the other siblings of my father. Following that I
discovered via Yad Vashem that the son of his brother
Abraham Meyer, Rudy (b.1920), survived as well and lives
in Florida. We reunited last year in Jerusalem (they
had not seen each other since 1938).

Now I have more or less the list of my father's
siblings:

1. Abraham Meyer b. 1890 in Gdow .Disappeared in the
USSR.

2. Channa Orschutzer b. 1894/5 in Gdow. Perished in
the Holocaust.

3. Erna /Esther Susskind b.1896? in Gdow .Perished in
the Holocaust.

4. Beila /Berta (surname unknown) b. 1897-9 married
and lived in Tarnow. Perished in the Holocaust
Mechla/ Michalina b.1901 in Dobczyce. Was a
Communist,married at a certain stage(surname unknown).
Disappeared in USSR.

5. Leon Leib b. 1903 in Dobczyce (my father).

My grandfather Jakub Chiel Rosner after whom I am
named was born in 1866 in Dabrowa Tarnowska to Rubin
Rosner and Malka Perlberg. My grandfather moved around 1905
to Krakowwhere he had a big storehouse of coal. My two surviving
cousins are named after our ggrandfather Rubin. Mechla/Michalina
is probably named after our ggrandmother Malka.

All this info was constructed >from www.shoreshim.org,
JRI-PL, Yad Vashem and my cousins' memory.

I wonder whether any one of you came across these
names and may shed some light on the two aunts of me
whose married names are not known to me. Thanks.

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalm

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Yad Vashem-Auschwitz Museum-Additional Data #germany

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,
Following my recent posting I got several enquiries
frow which I concluded that I probably did not explain
myself properly.
Yad Vashem is posting in the Pages of Testimony(PoT)
not only testimonies submitted by individuals but also
data about victims >from other sources. They took the
monumental work of Klarsfeld about the deportation of
Jews >from France which includes tens of thousands of
names and posted them as seperate pages of testimony.
Did did the same with a thick volume published in
Germany about German Jews who perished in the
Holocaust.The Auschwitz Museum published in 1995 a
book which includes about 69,000 names of people who
perished there. Later they put that data on the
Museum's website. Recently I realized that the data
which was posted on that website was only partial.
Yad Vashem did an important job,they posted the data
from the book as seperate PoTs. The book gives also
the names of both parents of the victim.
In other words, if you enter the Yad Vashem website,you
do not look for the Auschwitz list!!! You just type the
surname, given name and place of the person you are
looking for. If he was included in the Auschwitz
book (and website)-his name will show up as it is a page of testimony.

Jacob Rosen Jerusalem <abuwasta@yahoo.com>


German SIG #Germany Yad Vashem-Auschwitz Museum-Additional Data #germany

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,
Following my recent posting I got several enquiries
frow which I concluded that I probably did not explain
myself properly.
Yad Vashem is posting in the Pages of Testimony(PoT)
not only testimonies submitted by individuals but also
data about victims >from other sources. They took the
monumental work of Klarsfeld about the deportation of
Jews >from France which includes tens of thousands of
names and posted them as seperate pages of testimony.
Did did the same with a thick volume published in
Germany about German Jews who perished in the
Holocaust.The Auschwitz Museum published in 1995 a
book which includes about 69,000 names of people who
perished there. Later they put that data on the
Museum's website. Recently I realized that the data
which was posted on that website was only partial.
Yad Vashem did an important job,they posted the data
from the book as seperate PoTs. The book gives also
the names of both parents of the victim.
In other words, if you enter the Yad Vashem website,you
do not look for the Auschwitz list!!! You just type the
surname, given name and place of the person you are
looking for. If he was included in the Auschwitz
book (and website)-his name will show up as it is a page of testimony.

Jacob Rosen Jerusalem <abuwasta@yahoo.com>


ROSNER From Krakow #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

My name is Jacob Rosen >from Jerusalem. I am the son of the late Leon Leib
Rosner (1903-1999) who was the youngest child of Jakub Chiel Rosner
and Ittla Borgenicht. My father was convinced until his death that he was the
only survivor >from his family and barely spoke about his brother and 4 sisters.
He never mentioned their given names or married names.
Last year I managed to find out that a son of my father's siters,
Channa,Reuven Orschutzer (b.1925) survived and lives in Israel.
He gave me the names of the other siblings of my father. Following that I
discovered via Yad Vashem that the son of his brother Abraham Meyer,Rudy
(b.1920) survived as well and lives in Florida.
We reunited last year in Jerusalem (they have not seen each other since 1938).

Now I have more or less the list of my father's siblings:

1. Abraham Meyer b. 1890 in Gdow .Disappeared in the
USSR.

2. Channa Orschutzer b. 1894/5 in Gdow. Perished in
the Holocaust.

3. Erna /Esther Susskind b.1896? in Gdow .Perished in
the Holocaust.

4. Beila /Berta (surname unknown) b. 1897-9 married and lived in Tarnow.
Perished in the Holocaust
Mechla/ Michalina b.1901 in Dobczyce. Was a Communist,married
at a certain stage(surname unknown). Disappeared in USSR.
5. Leon Leib b. 1903 in Dobczyce (my father).

My grandfather Jakub Chiel Rosner after whom I am
named was born in 1866 in Dabrowa Tarnowska to Rubin Rosner and Malka
Perlberg. My grandfather moved around 1905 to Krakow where he had a big
storehouse of coal.
My two surviving cousins are named after our
ggrandfather Rubin. Mechla/Michalina is probably named
after our ggrandmother Malka.
All this info was constructed >from www.shoreshim.org, JRI-PL, Yad Vashem
and my cousins' memory.

I wonder whether any one of you came across these names and may shed
some light on the two aunts of me whose married names are not known to me.Thanks.

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalm


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia ROSNER From Krakow #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

My name is Jacob Rosen >from Jerusalem. I am the son of the late Leon Leib
Rosner (1903-1999) who was the youngest child of Jakub Chiel Rosner
and Ittla Borgenicht. My father was convinced until his death that he was the
only survivor >from his family and barely spoke about his brother and 4 sisters.
He never mentioned their given names or married names.
Last year I managed to find out that a son of my father's siters,
Channa,Reuven Orschutzer (b.1925) survived and lives in Israel.
He gave me the names of the other siblings of my father. Following that I
discovered via Yad Vashem that the son of his brother Abraham Meyer,Rudy
(b.1920) survived as well and lives in Florida.
We reunited last year in Jerusalem (they have not seen each other since 1938).

Now I have more or less the list of my father's siblings:

1. Abraham Meyer b. 1890 in Gdow .Disappeared in the
USSR.

2. Channa Orschutzer b. 1894/5 in Gdow. Perished in
the Holocaust.

3. Erna /Esther Susskind b.1896? in Gdow .Perished in
the Holocaust.

4. Beila /Berta (surname unknown) b. 1897-9 married and lived in Tarnow.
Perished in the Holocaust
Mechla/ Michalina b.1901 in Dobczyce. Was a Communist,married
at a certain stage(surname unknown). Disappeared in USSR.
5. Leon Leib b. 1903 in Dobczyce (my father).

My grandfather Jakub Chiel Rosner after whom I am
named was born in 1866 in Dabrowa Tarnowska to Rubin Rosner and Malka
Perlberg. My grandfather moved around 1905 to Krakow where he had a big
storehouse of coal.
My two surviving cousins are named after our
ggrandfather Rubin. Mechla/Michalina is probably named
after our ggrandmother Malka.
All this info was constructed >from www.shoreshim.org, JRI-PL, Yad Vashem
and my cousins' memory.

I wonder whether any one of you came across these names and may shed
some light on the two aunts of me whose married names are not known to me.Thanks.

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalm


Re: mtDNA - Jewish or not? #dna

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

I recently received my "Jewish" DNA results >from the FamilyTree DNA
testing service. What was tested was my mitochondrial (MT) DNA
which is the study of female genetic lines in human populations and
which identifies one's "deep ancestral ethnic and geographic
origins" on the maternal line. I was somewhat disappointed by the
results, having hoped to learn that I was Jewish going back many
generations. Specifically, what I expected to see in the results
was that I was a certain percentage "Jewish" (or rather Middle
Eastern) and a certain percentage European (or Eastern European). (A
few months ago I saw a program in England on which an English woman
learned that she was 25% South Asian (Chinese) and the rest
European. Her father was half Chinese.)

The mtDNA results revealed that I belonged to a haplogroup (genetic
population group) known as haplogroup V which migrated 35 - 50,000
years ago to Spain and Finland.

Unfortunately - as explained by the Jewish DNA expert at Family Tree
DNA - because being Jewish does not comprise a race or ethnicity, it
is impossible to determine whether a person is Jewish, only that
there may or may not be a strong possibility of being such, based on
migration patterns and mutations that occur over time within
population groups. In my particular case, because of my dozen or so
genetic matches to other (presumably Jewish) people whose mtDNA has
been tested by the same agency, there is a strong likelihood that I
am Jewish, not that I ever doubted it!

Naidia Woolf
rnwoolf@earthlink.net
San Francisco, CA
Formerly >from Birmingham, England

Researching:
DROZDIAS - Karczew, Poland; London, Northampton, Preston,England
ISAACS, family of Solomon and Sarah - Mlawa?, Poland; Birmingham, England
KUJAWSKI (family of Szya Wolf KUJAWSKI) - Lodz, Poland; Birmingham, England
SHORN, family of Morris & Yetta - Poland (town unknown); London, England
RAUS - Karczew, Poland; London/Northampton/Preston, England
SUPERSTAYN/SAFIRSTEIN - Karczew, Poland; England


DNA Research #DNA RE: mtDNA - Jewish or not? #dna

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

I recently received my "Jewish" DNA results >from the FamilyTree DNA
testing service. What was tested was my mitochondrial (MT) DNA
which is the study of female genetic lines in human populations and
which identifies one's "deep ancestral ethnic and geographic
origins" on the maternal line. I was somewhat disappointed by the
results, having hoped to learn that I was Jewish going back many
generations. Specifically, what I expected to see in the results
was that I was a certain percentage "Jewish" (or rather Middle
Eastern) and a certain percentage European (or Eastern European). (A
few months ago I saw a program in England on which an English woman
learned that she was 25% South Asian (Chinese) and the rest
European. Her father was half Chinese.)

The mtDNA results revealed that I belonged to a haplogroup (genetic
population group) known as haplogroup V which migrated 35 - 50,000
years ago to Spain and Finland.

Unfortunately - as explained by the Jewish DNA expert at Family Tree
DNA - because being Jewish does not comprise a race or ethnicity, it
is impossible to determine whether a person is Jewish, only that
there may or may not be a strong possibility of being such, based on
migration patterns and mutations that occur over time within
population groups. In my particular case, because of my dozen or so
genetic matches to other (presumably Jewish) people whose mtDNA has
been tested by the same agency, there is a strong likelihood that I
am Jewish, not that I ever doubted it!

Naidia Woolf
rnwoolf@earthlink.net
San Francisco, CA
Formerly >from Birmingham, England

Researching:
DROZDIAS - Karczew, Poland; London, Northampton, Preston,England
ISAACS, family of Solomon and Sarah - Mlawa?, Poland; Birmingham, England
KUJAWSKI (family of Szya Wolf KUJAWSKI) - Lodz, Poland; Birmingham, England
SHORN, family of Morris & Yetta - Poland (town unknown); London, England
RAUS - Karczew, Poland; London/Northampton/Preston, England
SUPERSTAYN/SAFIRSTEIN - Karczew, Poland; England