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Re: bessarabia digest: February 08, 2017 #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

from Rita Liegner writes:
Hi, I would like the Lipkani cemetery list. I am happy to donate - should I
let you know when I have done so?
...

I have already replied to Rita, but want to be clear for everyone in the
group, because there are might be confusion about donation, money and cost,
and why we are asking for donations...

If you are trying to search JewishGen databases, and that includes Romania
(Bessarabia) database where all our records are stored, for that you do not
need to donate anything, if you do not want to. That service is free and as
I understand will be free!

Why we are asking for donations? We need to pay hired photographers to make
photos of tombstones, pay local researchers to copy or transcribe set of
records, pay archives to send us copy of newspapers, documents, etc. etc.
etc.

What we offering at Bessarabia SIG now:
- for $100 donation - the whole list of CEMETERY records for a particular
cemetery. If you find your ancestors at that list, we will also send you
copies of photos for the graves. That list might be available even before
the cemetery records/photos are uploaded to JOWBR. I think that such lists
can help you in your person research, especially if you are not sure about
the names of your ancestors;

- for $100 donation - a set of Revision Lists for town/year, like in case of
Kishinev, you may want to get a list of Kishinev 1848 Revision, and here if
you find your ancestors, we will send you a copy of the original page in
Russian.

I have sent to many of our members cemetery town sets and also Revision
lists.

In order to get these sets, you need to send me a receipt of your donation
and the cemetery (town) or Revision(town, year) you want to get.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan, Inna Vayner
Bessarabia SIG Leaders and Coordinators


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia RE: bessarabia digest: February 08, 2017 #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

from Rita Liegner writes:
Hi, I would like the Lipkani cemetery list. I am happy to donate - should I
let you know when I have done so?
...

I have already replied to Rita, but want to be clear for everyone in the
group, because there are might be confusion about donation, money and cost,
and why we are asking for donations...

If you are trying to search JewishGen databases, and that includes Romania
(Bessarabia) database where all our records are stored, for that you do not
need to donate anything, if you do not want to. That service is free and as
I understand will be free!

Why we are asking for donations? We need to pay hired photographers to make
photos of tombstones, pay local researchers to copy or transcribe set of
records, pay archives to send us copy of newspapers, documents, etc. etc.
etc.

What we offering at Bessarabia SIG now:
- for $100 donation - the whole list of CEMETERY records for a particular
cemetery. If you find your ancestors at that list, we will also send you
copies of photos for the graves. That list might be available even before
the cemetery records/photos are uploaded to JOWBR. I think that such lists
can help you in your person research, especially if you are not sure about
the names of your ancestors;

- for $100 donation - a set of Revision Lists for town/year, like in case of
Kishinev, you may want to get a list of Kishinev 1848 Revision, and here if
you find your ancestors, we will send you a copy of the original page in
Russian.

I have sent to many of our members cemetery town sets and also Revision
lists.

In order to get these sets, you need to send me a receipt of your donation
and the cemetery (town) or Revision(town, year) you want to get.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan, Inna Vayner
Bessarabia SIG Leaders and Coordinators


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine WINTER family in Czortkow #ukraine

Renee Steinig
 

Fanny Winter <fannywintera@...> wrote that her father, Mordejai
WINTER KLEINER, son of Mendel WINTER and Hanna KLEINER, left Poland in
1936. She would like to know about the wife and daughter he left
behind.

Some suggestions:

- Since Czortkow (now Chortkiv, Ukraine) was in Galicia until the end
of World War I, you might also send an inquiry to the Gesher Galicia
discussion group. To join it, go here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ListManager/members_add.asp

- The town's yizkor (memorial) book
(http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/chortkov/cho373.html) lists this
mother and daughter: WINTER, Itta bat Reuven and her daughter Regina.
You can't assume that they were Mordejai's wife and daughter, but
that's possible.

- Fanny, did your father immigrate to the United States? If so, a
possible source of his first wife's name would be his passenger
arrival record, which would have listed his closest relative in his
place of origin. Many passenger manifests for this period are
available on Ancestry.com. If you can't find him, you might want to
order his naturalization record, which includes details that will make
a search for the arrival record easier.

- The records of the International Tracing Service include many
inquiries about the fate of relatives. If Mordejai wrote to ITS after
the war, his correspondence is still on file there. The U.S. Holocaust
Memorial Museum in Washington DC has copies of many ITS records. For
more information and inquiries, see:

https://www.ushmm.org/remember/the-holocaust-survivors-and-victims-resource-center/international-tracing-service

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY
genmaven@...


WINTER family in Czortkow #ukraine

Renee Steinig
 

Fanny Winter <fannywintera@...> wrote that her father, Mordejai
WINTER KLEINER, son of Mendel WINTER and Hanna KLEINER, left Poland in
1936. She would like to know about the wife and daughter he left
behind.

Some suggestions:

- Since Czortkow (now Chortkiv, Ukraine) was in Galicia until the end
of World War I, you might also send an inquiry to the Gesher Galicia
discussion group. To join it, go here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ListManager/members_add.asp

- The town's yizkor (memorial) book
(http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/chortkov/cho373.html) lists this
mother and daughter: WINTER, Itta bat Reuven and her daughter Regina.
You can't assume that they were Mordejai's wife and daughter, but
that's possible.

- Fanny, did your father immigrate to the United States? If so, a
possible source of his first wife's name would be his passenger
arrival record, which would have listed his closest relative in his
place of origin. Many passenger manifests for this period are
available on Ancestry.com. If you can't find him, you might want to
order his naturalization record, which includes details that will make
a search for the arrival record easier.

- The records of the International Tracing Service include many
inquiries about the fate of relatives. If Mordejai wrote to ITS after
the war, his correspondence is still on file there. The U.S. Holocaust
Memorial Museum in Washington DC has copies of many ITS records. For
more information and inquiries, see:

https://www.ushmm.org/remember/the-holocaust-survivors-and-victims-resource-center/international-tracing-service

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY
genmaven@...


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Emigration to Palestine #ukraine

Ed Schinik <eschinik@...>
 

My grandfather emigrated >from Odessa to Palestine in 1913. What records are
available to document his travel and/or arrival to Palestine?


Thanks
Ed


Emigration to Palestine #ukraine

Ed Schinik <eschinik@...>
 

My grandfather emigrated >from Odessa to Palestine in 1913. What records are
available to document his travel and/or arrival to Palestine?


Thanks
Ed


Re: bessarabia digest: February 08, 2017 #bessarabia

Rita L <rita30@...>
 

Hi, I would like the Lipkani cemetery list. I am happy to donate - should I
let you know when I have done so?

Thanks for all your work.

Rita Liegner

-----------------------------------
Subject: RE: Bessarabia SIG, Update for December 2016
From: "Yefim Kogan" <yefimk@...>
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 08:19:01 -0500

1) Bessarabian Databases:

We have compiled a list of sets of records to be uploaded to JewishGen by
June 2017. It includes records >from Kishinev, Teleneshty, Khotin, Rezina,
Ataki, Akkerman and more. You can see the whole list at Bessarabian
Database section....................


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia RE: bessarabia digest: February 08, 2017 #bessarabia

Rita L <rita30@...>
 

Hi, I would like the Lipkani cemetery list. I am happy to donate - should I
let you know when I have done so?

Thanks for all your work.

Rita Liegner

-----------------------------------
Subject: RE: Bessarabia SIG, Update for December 2016
From: "Yefim Kogan" <yefimk@...>
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 08:19:01 -0500

1) Bessarabian Databases:

We have compiled a list of sets of records to be uploaded to JewishGen by
June 2017. It includes records >from Kishinev, Teleneshty, Khotin, Rezina,
Ataki, Akkerman and more. You can see the whole list at Bessarabian
Database section....................


Finding my German family in Zurich #germany

Ellen Barnett Cleary
 

I recently learned that Else SONDHLEM, born 23 November 1915 in Dresden
left Amsterdam for Zurich, Switzerland on 26 November 1936. I know that
she lived on Gastenstrasse, possibly number 34 in Zurich.

Do any of you have experience researching the Zurich records?
I would very much like to know where to write for information on
her and welcome any advice you might offer.

Ellen Barnett Cleary, San Francisco CAellencleary@...


German SIG #Germany Finding my German family in Zurich #germany

Ellen Barnett Cleary
 

I recently learned that Else SONDHLEM, born 23 November 1915 in Dresden
left Amsterdam for Zurich, Switzerland on 26 November 1936. I know that
she lived on Gastenstrasse, possibly number 34 in Zurich.

Do any of you have experience researching the Zurich records?
I would very much like to know where to write for information on
her and welcome any advice you might offer.

Ellen Barnett Cleary, San Francisco CAellencleary@...


Reichsvereinigung der Juden: Letter G - SITE CITE #germany

Lande
 

I have completed indexing all Reichsvereinigung (RJD) registration family
names beginning with the letter G. This material as well as names beginning
with the letters A-F and L (in total about 10,000 names) are available on
the Steve Morse website, Holocaust material, under the heading Jewishroof.
Further letters will be posted when (and if) I manage to complete them.

A brief note of explanation. Beginning in 1939 and continuing through
1941/42 all resident Jews, regardless of nationality or place of birth were
required to register with the RJD, which was supervised by the Gestapo.
While many sought to avoid registering, about 100,000 cards/names appear in
this collection. The information on each card varies widely, >from as little
as name, date and place of birth and residence to profession, family
members, and fate, e.g. emigration destination, report of death within
Germany or deportation. Somewhat surprisingly, less than one quarter of the
registrants were deported, with far more dying in their cities of residence.
Those interested in a more complete description of the collection and its
current use may contact me at pdlande@....

In the past it has been possible to provide copies of cards in response to
individual requests. At present what, I hope, are only technical problems
prevent this. For now, until full access to the cards becomes available, in
response to individual requests at plande@..., I will attempt to
supplement the information on the posted website.

Peter Lande, Washington, D.C. pdlande@...


German SIG #Germany Reichsvereinigung der Juden: Letter G - SITE CITE #germany

Lande
 

I have completed indexing all Reichsvereinigung (RJD) registration family
names beginning with the letter G. This material as well as names beginning
with the letters A-F and L (in total about 10,000 names) are available on
the Steve Morse website, Holocaust material, under the heading Jewishroof.
Further letters will be posted when (and if) I manage to complete them.

A brief note of explanation. Beginning in 1939 and continuing through
1941/42 all resident Jews, regardless of nationality or place of birth were
required to register with the RJD, which was supervised by the Gestapo.
While many sought to avoid registering, about 100,000 cards/names appear in
this collection. The information on each card varies widely, >from as little
as name, date and place of birth and residence to profession, family
members, and fate, e.g. emigration destination, report of death within
Germany or deportation. Somewhat surprisingly, less than one quarter of the
registrants were deported, with far more dying in their cities of residence.
Those interested in a more complete description of the collection and its
current use may contact me at pdlande@....

In the past it has been possible to provide copies of cards in response to
individual requests. At present what, I hope, are only technical problems
prevent this. For now, until full access to the cards becomes available, in
response to individual requests at plande@..., I will attempt to
supplement the information on the posted website.

Peter Lande, Washington, D.C. pdlande@...


ViewMate translation request - German #germany

Peggy Teich
 

Dear GerSiggers,

I would be grateful for a translation of the birth record posted on
ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM53385.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

The columns with paternal and maternal information are of particular
interest to me (I think the maternal column will provide names of
mother's parents - including her mother's maiden name). I would be
grateful if someone would translate all columns. Thank you very much!

Peggy Teich, New York
< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >
Please thank those who help you and support ViewMate, JewishGen
and GerSIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Honors/
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp


German SIG #Germany ViewMate translation request - German #germany

Peggy Teich
 

Dear GerSiggers,

I would be grateful for a translation of the birth record posted on
ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM53385.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

The columns with paternal and maternal information are of particular
interest to me (I think the maternal column will provide names of
mother's parents - including her mother's maiden name). I would be
grateful if someone would translate all columns. Thank you very much!

Peggy Teich, New York
< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >
Please thank those who help you and support ViewMate, JewishGen
and GerSIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Honors/
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp


Re: Finding my German family in the Netherlands - [Thanks and findings] #germany

Ellen Barnett Cleary
 

Thank you so much to everyone who helped me with my query. Thanks to
you I have found out about my family in the Netherlands. I am so amazed
at how much I have learned.

I wanted to share the resources you shared with me that helped answer
this question. There are many resources that sadly list the names of
Holocaust victims. I am not going to mention those sites unless they
gave me additional information about Emma's life.

Two important things I learned, that might be helpful to other researchers.
1. search under both Emma's maiden name and under her married surname.
2. her daughter's husband's name was SONDHELM, rather than Sondheim...so
it pays to be alert to variations.

These were the sites that helped us complete the picture:

https://archief.amsterdam/indexen/index.nl.html
*under Archiefkaarten 1939-1994
*under Gezinskaarten 1833-1939

Told me the addresses Emma was living in Amsterdam and when and where
her husband died.

Told me this about Emma's daughter's family:
*the address she lived in Amsterdam
*birth dates and places of her husband and her daughter
*when she left Amsterdam for the US with her husband (although this info
proved incorrect when I found the passenger list -- she left earlier on
a different ship)
*that her daughter emigrated to Zurich and the date she emigrated

http://wp.ge-mittelkreis.de/_startseite/_st_141215/gored1412_muehlenstr51.html

Told me
*where Emma married
*when and where her husband died
*the name of the company her husband worked for
*where and with whom Emma lived after her husband died

Many many thanks to all of you!

My original post:

I am researching Hilda (WERTHEIMER) SONDHEIM, who moved with her
husband, William, to the Netherlands when the issues of WWII began. I do
not know where in the Netherlands they lived, but I think it was close
to Goch, Germany because her mother moved to Goch so she could visit her
daughter in the Netherlands, perhaps Rotterdam, but I am not at all
certain of that. Her mother sadly was captured by the Germans and died
in Auschwitz.

HIlda and William had a daughter named Elsie SONDHEIM. I do not know if
she too was in the Netherlands but I would like to find out.

Do any of you have experience researching the records of the
Netherlands? I would very much like to know where to write for
information on these people and welcome any advice you might offer.

I know these are slim bits of information to work from, but they are all
I have. I would like to at least see what I might be able to learn.

Ellen Barnett Cleary, San Francisco CAellencleary@...


German SIG #Germany Re: Finding my German family in the Netherlands - [Thanks and findings] #germany

Ellen Barnett Cleary
 

Thank you so much to everyone who helped me with my query. Thanks to
you I have found out about my family in the Netherlands. I am so amazed
at how much I have learned.

I wanted to share the resources you shared with me that helped answer
this question. There are many resources that sadly list the names of
Holocaust victims. I am not going to mention those sites unless they
gave me additional information about Emma's life.

Two important things I learned, that might be helpful to other researchers.
1. search under both Emma's maiden name and under her married surname.
2. her daughter's husband's name was SONDHELM, rather than Sondheim...so
it pays to be alert to variations.

These were the sites that helped us complete the picture:

https://archief.amsterdam/indexen/index.nl.html
*under Archiefkaarten 1939-1994
*under Gezinskaarten 1833-1939

Told me the addresses Emma was living in Amsterdam and when and where
her husband died.

Told me this about Emma's daughter's family:
*the address she lived in Amsterdam
*birth dates and places of her husband and her daughter
*when she left Amsterdam for the US with her husband (although this info
proved incorrect when I found the passenger list -- she left earlier on
a different ship)
*that her daughter emigrated to Zurich and the date she emigrated

http://wp.ge-mittelkreis.de/_startseite/_st_141215/gored1412_muehlenstr51.html

Told me
*where Emma married
*when and where her husband died
*the name of the company her husband worked for
*where and with whom Emma lived after her husband died

Many many thanks to all of you!

My original post:

I am researching Hilda (WERTHEIMER) SONDHEIM, who moved with her
husband, William, to the Netherlands when the issues of WWII began. I do
not know where in the Netherlands they lived, but I think it was close
to Goch, Germany because her mother moved to Goch so she could visit her
daughter in the Netherlands, perhaps Rotterdam, but I am not at all
certain of that. Her mother sadly was captured by the Germans and died
in Auschwitz.

HIlda and William had a daughter named Elsie SONDHEIM. I do not know if
she too was in the Netherlands but I would like to find out.

Do any of you have experience researching the records of the
Netherlands? I would very much like to know where to write for
information on these people and welcome any advice you might offer.

I know these are slim bits of information to work from, but they are all
I have. I would like to at least see what I might be able to learn.

Ellen Barnett Cleary, San Francisco CAellencleary@...


Re: Researching a German Family in the Netherlands #germany

WALTER ELIAS
 

I have been able to trace members of my German family in the Netherlands
using some of these excellent Dutch websites and help >from Dutch researchers.
Now I am interested in some hows and whys.

My GG Aunt Minna SCHOENFELD was born in Wachenbuchen, Germany, 21 July, 1854.
She was married to Julius MUELLER, born 3 Feb 1846 in Loga,Leer,
Niedersachsen, Germany. They had 3 children, Frieda, Gustav and Johanna
all born in the 1880's in Nijmegen, The Netherlands. I am interested in
the circumstances of the family's move to The Netherlands. I am
hypothesizing that it was mostly economic necessity.

Johanna MUELLER married Karl HAUSER b. 16 June 1888 in Rohrbach, Germany.
I do not know where they married. They had one child, Irene HAUSER who
was born in Mannheim, Germany, 24 Dec 1920. Irene became a war bride,
marrying Major John EBERT of Hancock, Iowa in 1946 and moving to Iowa.


My question now is how do I trace the family's movements >from the 1880s
until the birth of Irene in 1920. Why the back and forth migration? And
further, how did Irene and her parents survive the Holocaust living
during the war in Germany?

These questions probably require a larger project but I am now very curious
about the stories behind the vital records I have found of my German family
in The Netherlands.

Walter S. Elias, St. Louis Park, Minnesota. wselias79@...


German SIG #Germany Re: Researching a German Family in the Netherlands #germany

WALTER ELIAS
 

I have been able to trace members of my German family in the Netherlands
using some of these excellent Dutch websites and help >from Dutch researchers.
Now I am interested in some hows and whys.

My GG Aunt Minna SCHOENFELD was born in Wachenbuchen, Germany, 21 July, 1854.
She was married to Julius MUELLER, born 3 Feb 1846 in Loga,Leer,
Niedersachsen, Germany. They had 3 children, Frieda, Gustav and Johanna
all born in the 1880's in Nijmegen, The Netherlands. I am interested in
the circumstances of the family's move to The Netherlands. I am
hypothesizing that it was mostly economic necessity.

Johanna MUELLER married Karl HAUSER b. 16 June 1888 in Rohrbach, Germany.
I do not know where they married. They had one child, Irene HAUSER who
was born in Mannheim, Germany, 24 Dec 1920. Irene became a war bride,
marrying Major John EBERT of Hancock, Iowa in 1946 and moving to Iowa.


My question now is how do I trace the family's movements >from the 1880s
until the birth of Irene in 1920. Why the back and forth migration? And
further, how did Irene and her parents survive the Holocaust living
during the war in Germany?

These questions probably require a larger project but I am now very curious
about the stories behind the vital records I have found of my German family
in The Netherlands.

Walter S. Elias, St. Louis Park, Minnesota. wselias79@...


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Updated 1852 Cadastral Map of Dobromil in the Gesher Galicia Map Room #ukraine

jay.osborn@...
 

Now updated on the Gesher Galicia Map Room: A complete full-color
lithographed 1852 cadastral map of Dobromil (Dobromyl), today in
far-western Ukraine:
http://maps.geshergalicia.org/cadastral/dobromil-dobromyl-1852-2/

Dobromil is a small town which had a significant Jewish presence, and
it was more "urban" than many of the towns surveyed in Galicia by the
Austrian Empire. Residences and businesses are concentrated around an
orderly square composed entirely of masonry buildings, unusual for the
period and the town's size.

We had previously posted an intermediate-stage map of the town from
the same survey, but this final-stage cadastral map is both more
valuable for research and more beautiful. We thank Alexander Nazar of
the Lviv Volunteer Center:
https://lvc.lviv.ua/index.php/en/
for alerting us to the availability of this map across the border, in
Poland. The LVC is a non-profit organization conducting social and
heritage work in and around Lviv; they have an active Jewish heritage
project in Dobromil.

Images for this map were provided to Gesher Galicia by the Archiwum
Panstwowe w Przemyslu:
http://www.przemysl.ap.gov.pl/index.php?lang=en

The GG Map Room home page: http://maps.geshergalicia.org/

Jay Osborn
Gesher Galicia Digital Map Manager
Lviv, Ukraine
maps@...


Updated 1852 Cadastral Map of Dobromil in the Gesher Galicia Map Room #ukraine

jay.osborn@...
 

Now updated on the Gesher Galicia Map Room: A complete full-color
lithographed 1852 cadastral map of Dobromil (Dobromyl), today in
far-western Ukraine:
http://maps.geshergalicia.org/cadastral/dobromil-dobromyl-1852-2/

Dobromil is a small town which had a significant Jewish presence, and
it was more "urban" than many of the towns surveyed in Galicia by the
Austrian Empire. Residences and businesses are concentrated around an
orderly square composed entirely of masonry buildings, unusual for the
period and the town's size.

We had previously posted an intermediate-stage map of the town from
the same survey, but this final-stage cadastral map is both more
valuable for research and more beautiful. We thank Alexander Nazar of
the Lviv Volunteer Center:
https://lvc.lviv.ua/index.php/en/
for alerting us to the availability of this map across the border, in
Poland. The LVC is a non-profit organization conducting social and
heritage work in and around Lviv; they have an active Jewish heritage
project in Dobromil.

Images for this map were provided to Gesher Galicia by the Archiwum
Panstwowe w Przemyslu:
http://www.przemysl.ap.gov.pl/index.php?lang=en

The GG Map Room home page: http://maps.geshergalicia.org/

Jay Osborn
Gesher Galicia Digital Map Manager
Lviv, Ukraine
maps@...

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