Date   

Origin of BURMIL / BERMIL Family #general

David Hoffman
 

Does anyone know where the name "BURMIL" or "BERMIL" originated? I know that my
family left the Kolomea Galicia area for the USA in the early 1900s, but there
do not appear to be any BURMIL/BERMIL records >from that area.

Thanks,
David Hoffman
Baltimore, MD
dyhoffman@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Origin of BURMIL / BERMIL Family #general

David Hoffman
 

Does anyone know where the name "BURMIL" or "BERMIL" originated? I know that my
family left the Kolomea Galicia area for the USA in the early 1900s, but there
do not appear to be any BURMIL/BERMIL records >from that area.

Thanks,
David Hoffman
Baltimore, MD
dyhoffman@...


From Zinkov and Vicinity to Providence, RI / SILVERMAN #general

Linda Shefler <linsilv@...>
 

I am attempting to locate anyone whose family emigrated >from Zinkov or other
towns in the area [Bar, Medzhibozh, Nova Ushytsya, Khmelnytskyy, etc.] to
Providence, RI; anywhere >from the late 1800s onward.

I am [still] attempting to learn the original name of my SILVERMAN family
from Zinkov. My g grandfather and his brother started a jewelry
manufacturing company in Providence in the late 1800s, helped bring people
from "the old country" to America and gave them jobs. Some of the people
they helped bring over were relatives; unfortunately I don't know who they
were.

Silverman Brothers Jewelers of Providence RI [1897-early 1950s] had a sales
office in Buenos Aires, Argentina. I cannot imagine that they would have
had an office there [considering the distance in those days] unless there
was a family connection, someone there that they knew and trusted. The only
other sales office they had that was out of the country was in Cuba and they
were constantly going back and forth to Cuba until Castro took over. I have
found no records of them traveling to Buenos Aires.

I am looking for anyone whose family might have emigrated >from Zinkov and
vicinity, including but not limited to; Bar, Medzhibozh, Nova Ushytsya and
Khmelnytskyy to Buenos Aires and might have had some connection to
Providence, RI.

Don't worry if you aren't aware of a connection to Silverman, if your family
was >from that part of the Ukraine and was in Buenos Aires and "might" have
had a connection to Providence, please let me know. Even just "might have"
is good enough!

Thanks so much for your time and I would appreciate any responses privately

If your family did immigrate to Providence and was >from Zinkov and vicinity,
I would love to hear >from you. Don't worry if you know of a Silverman
connection or not, I'll happily work on that aspect of it!

Thanks for your time and please respond privately.

Regards,
Linda Silverman Shefler
Cary, NC
linsilv@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen From Zinkov and Vicinity to Providence, RI / SILVERMAN #general

Linda Shefler <linsilv@...>
 

I am attempting to locate anyone whose family emigrated >from Zinkov or other
towns in the area [Bar, Medzhibozh, Nova Ushytsya, Khmelnytskyy, etc.] to
Providence, RI; anywhere >from the late 1800s onward.

I am [still] attempting to learn the original name of my SILVERMAN family
from Zinkov. My g grandfather and his brother started a jewelry
manufacturing company in Providence in the late 1800s, helped bring people
from "the old country" to America and gave them jobs. Some of the people
they helped bring over were relatives; unfortunately I don't know who they
were.

Silverman Brothers Jewelers of Providence RI [1897-early 1950s] had a sales
office in Buenos Aires, Argentina. I cannot imagine that they would have
had an office there [considering the distance in those days] unless there
was a family connection, someone there that they knew and trusted. The only
other sales office they had that was out of the country was in Cuba and they
were constantly going back and forth to Cuba until Castro took over. I have
found no records of them traveling to Buenos Aires.

I am looking for anyone whose family might have emigrated >from Zinkov and
vicinity, including but not limited to; Bar, Medzhibozh, Nova Ushytsya and
Khmelnytskyy to Buenos Aires and might have had some connection to
Providence, RI.

Don't worry if you aren't aware of a connection to Silverman, if your family
was >from that part of the Ukraine and was in Buenos Aires and "might" have
had a connection to Providence, please let me know. Even just "might have"
is good enough!

Thanks so much for your time and I would appreciate any responses privately

If your family did immigrate to Providence and was >from Zinkov and vicinity,
I would love to hear >from you. Don't worry if you know of a Silverman
connection or not, I'll happily work on that aspect of it!

Thanks for your time and please respond privately.

Regards,
Linda Silverman Shefler
Cary, NC
linsilv@...


Federation of Synagogues Burial Records #unitedkingdom

Louise Messik <louise@...>
 

This is a one off 'commercial' announcement sent >from the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Great Britain to the JCR-UK SIG only and with the
agreement of JewishGen.

For the past four or so years JGSGB has been negotiating with the Federation
of Synagogues in the UK for the release of their burial records. These
incorporate two of the major cemeteries in London; Edmonton (opened 1889)
and Rainham (first burial 21st February 1938). In all there are over 70,000
graves.

JGGB has recently entered into a Heads of Agreement with the Federation of
Synagogues. We are now in possession of 27,000 of their records and of
those 27,000 only just over 1840 fall within that which they will allow us
to use - up to 1949. The remainder will come in dribs and drabs as they
transcribe them >from their huge ledgers onto a database.

Their other stipulation is that these must be for members of JGSGB only.
Thus they may only appear in the database search engine on the Members'
Corner section of the JGSGB website, www.jgsgb.org.uk.

I am due to have a meeting with their representative within the next couple
of months to

(a) Try to persuade him to let us use 1960 as the cut off date
(b) Try to persuade him to allow us to incorporate these records into JCR-UK
within a given period of time.

With best wishes to you all for a happy and healthy 2007.

Louise Messik
JGSGB Member of Council


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Federation of Synagogues Burial Records #unitedkingdom

Louise Messik <louise@...>
 

This is a one off 'commercial' announcement sent >from the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Great Britain to the JCR-UK SIG only and with the
agreement of JewishGen.

For the past four or so years JGSGB has been negotiating with the Federation
of Synagogues in the UK for the release of their burial records. These
incorporate two of the major cemeteries in London; Edmonton (opened 1889)
and Rainham (first burial 21st February 1938). In all there are over 70,000
graves.

JGGB has recently entered into a Heads of Agreement with the Federation of
Synagogues. We are now in possession of 27,000 of their records and of
those 27,000 only just over 1840 fall within that which they will allow us
to use - up to 1949. The remainder will come in dribs and drabs as they
transcribe them >from their huge ledgers onto a database.

Their other stipulation is that these must be for members of JGSGB only.
Thus they may only appear in the database search engine on the Members'
Corner section of the JGSGB website, www.jgsgb.org.uk.

I am due to have a meeting with their representative within the next couple
of months to

(a) Try to persuade him to let us use 1960 as the cut off date
(b) Try to persuade him to allow us to incorporate these records into JCR-UK
within a given period of time.

With best wishes to you all for a happy and healthy 2007.

Louise Messik
JGSGB Member of Council


Re: Matzo Ball: Cracker Meal is Matza Meal #general

Jules Levin
 

==One might say that crackers for ordinary table use, are a gentile
imitation of matzot. True, In 1801 Josiah Bent began a baking operation in
Milton, Massachusetts, selling "water crackers" or biscuits made of flour and
water that would not deteriorate during long sea voyages >from the port of
Boston. But these would have been sold only to sailors and explorers.
By the time of the Civil War, this was a G.I. staple, along with salt pork. It
was so hard it had to be soaked in water to be eaten. By 1865 a good chunk of
the male population of North America was very familiar with these gentile
"matzos".

Jules Levin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Matzo Ball: Cracker Meal is Matza Meal #general

Jules Levin
 

==One might say that crackers for ordinary table use, are a gentile
imitation of matzot. True, In 1801 Josiah Bent began a baking operation in
Milton, Massachusetts, selling "water crackers" or biscuits made of flour and
water that would not deteriorate during long sea voyages >from the port of
Boston. But these would have been sold only to sailors and explorers.
By the time of the Civil War, this was a G.I. staple, along with salt pork. It
was so hard it had to be soaked in water to be eaten. By 1865 a good chunk of
the male population of North America was very familiar with these gentile
"matzos".

Jules Levin


Online video on American-Jewish anarchists #general

Naomi Fatouros
 

Today,my son Thanos, who lives in Athens, Greece, sent me today the URLs for a
video/film on American-Jewish anarchists.

http://www.dailymotion.com/XLanig/video/xt2fs_les-juifs-anarchistes-1
http://www.dailymotion.com/XLanig/video/xt3a0_les-juifs-anarchistes-2
http://www.dailymotion.com/XLanig/video/xt3a0_les-juifs-anarchistes-3
http://www.dailymotion.com/XLanig/video/xt2m7_les-juifs-anarchistes-2

(Note: I am not sure whether Part Three is really a third part, because it seems
to be a repeat of Part Two.)

As you will see, the video is explained by a little paragraph in French which I
have translated into English as follows:

<<In 1977, the Jewish anarchist journal "Freie Arbeiter Stimme" (the free voice
of the workers) was at the point of closing after 87 years of publication, the
producers of the film interviewed old anarchists on the subject of their
experiences in the movement. They talk of the conditions of their organization,
of their fights [against?] the revolutionary syndicalists, of their differences
with the Leninists, of their attitudes about violence, of Yiddish culture,
of fidelity and solidarity.>>

The film's interviewer was then young historian Paul Avrich who, I am said to
say, died last February, afflicted with Alzheimer's.

The last segment talks about the famous Ferrer School. Another part concerns the
generally pacific attitude of most anarchists as distinguished >from the attitude
of those few who wanted to destroy buildings and kill the wealthy oppressors of
the workers. In this segmant also is a stirring, somehow cheerful song about
getting rid of "little Nicky," that is, Czar Nicholas II.

I enjoyed this interesting and touching video very much, despite the facts that
in the first part, the sound and film frequently kept halting and restarting
itself, and during much of the second part, the sound track didn't coordinate at
all with the moving lips of the interviewees.

Some of the names I managed to jot down were:

Abe Bluestein, Ahrne Thorne, Franz Fleigler, Fanny Breslow, Sonia Farber, Sara
Rothman, and also Charles Zimmerman who was said to be a Socialist.

Inserted as part of the original film are still black and white photos as well
as old moving pictures immigrants on their boats, on the Lower East Side, being
harranged against the war in 1917, etc..

I was particularly amused by one brief moving picture in Part 2, showing
officials in what must have been 1919, waving goodbye, or more likely, good
riddance! >from the dock to departing deportees, among whom, as some of you may
know, were Emma Goldman and Alexander Berkman.

Among many other things in the film I also enjoyed a sad Yiddish song which
begins (in English) "Don't look for me where the myrtles grow..."

If you decide to watch the video, you should be prepared to spend about 20
minutes for the first part and about 17 minutes for the second part.

You are welcome to me know what you thought of this film.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
BELKOWSKY,BIELKOWSKY, BILKOWSKI, Odessa,St. Petersburg,Berdichev,
Kiev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug;FRASCH,Kiev;LIBERMAN,Moscow;FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets;LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS/SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, Radomysl?; BEHAM, Salok, Kharkov;
WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Online video on American-Jewish anarchists #general

Naomi Fatouros
 

Today,my son Thanos, who lives in Athens, Greece, sent me today the URLs for a
video/film on American-Jewish anarchists.

http://www.dailymotion.com/XLanig/video/xt2fs_les-juifs-anarchistes-1
http://www.dailymotion.com/XLanig/video/xt3a0_les-juifs-anarchistes-2
http://www.dailymotion.com/XLanig/video/xt3a0_les-juifs-anarchistes-3
http://www.dailymotion.com/XLanig/video/xt2m7_les-juifs-anarchistes-2

(Note: I am not sure whether Part Three is really a third part, because it seems
to be a repeat of Part Two.)

As you will see, the video is explained by a little paragraph in French which I
have translated into English as follows:

<<In 1977, the Jewish anarchist journal "Freie Arbeiter Stimme" (the free voice
of the workers) was at the point of closing after 87 years of publication, the
producers of the film interviewed old anarchists on the subject of their
experiences in the movement. They talk of the conditions of their organization,
of their fights [against?] the revolutionary syndicalists, of their differences
with the Leninists, of their attitudes about violence, of Yiddish culture,
of fidelity and solidarity.>>

The film's interviewer was then young historian Paul Avrich who, I am said to
say, died last February, afflicted with Alzheimer's.

The last segment talks about the famous Ferrer School. Another part concerns the
generally pacific attitude of most anarchists as distinguished >from the attitude
of those few who wanted to destroy buildings and kill the wealthy oppressors of
the workers. In this segmant also is a stirring, somehow cheerful song about
getting rid of "little Nicky," that is, Czar Nicholas II.

I enjoyed this interesting and touching video very much, despite the facts that
in the first part, the sound and film frequently kept halting and restarting
itself, and during much of the second part, the sound track didn't coordinate at
all with the moving lips of the interviewees.

Some of the names I managed to jot down were:

Abe Bluestein, Ahrne Thorne, Franz Fleigler, Fanny Breslow, Sonia Farber, Sara
Rothman, and also Charles Zimmerman who was said to be a Socialist.

Inserted as part of the original film are still black and white photos as well
as old moving pictures immigrants on their boats, on the Lower East Side, being
harranged against the war in 1917, etc..

I was particularly amused by one brief moving picture in Part 2, showing
officials in what must have been 1919, waving goodbye, or more likely, good
riddance! >from the dock to departing deportees, among whom, as some of you may
know, were Emma Goldman and Alexander Berkman.

Among many other things in the film I also enjoyed a sad Yiddish song which
begins (in English) "Don't look for me where the myrtles grow..."

If you decide to watch the video, you should be prepared to spend about 20
minutes for the first part and about 17 minutes for the second part.

You are welcome to me know what you thought of this film.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
BELKOWSKY,BIELKOWSKY, BILKOWSKI, Odessa,St. Petersburg,Berdichev,
Kiev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug;FRASCH,Kiev;LIBERMAN,Moscow;FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets;LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS/SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, Radomysl?; BEHAM, Salok, Kharkov;
WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Re: Fate of man sent to Siberia - OSIPOVA #general

Jules Levin
 

A man I met today is married to a woman whose father was taken by the
Russian police in Ajerbajan in 1936 (he was an anti-Communist) and sent to
Siberia. The surname was OSIPOVA.

This would be the feminine form of the name. A man's name would be Osipov.
Since Osip is Russian for Joseph, I wonder if the name was translated >from
something like Yoselson...?
Jules Levin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Fate of man sent to Siberia - OSIPOVA #general

Jules Levin
 

A man I met today is married to a woman whose father was taken by the
Russian police in Ajerbajan in 1936 (he was an anti-Communist) and sent to
Siberia. The surname was OSIPOVA.

This would be the feminine form of the name. A man's name would be Osipov.
Since Osip is Russian for Joseph, I wonder if the name was translated >from
something like Yoselson...?
Jules Levin


Conference News #warsaw #poland

Conference Info <information@...>
 

Network with fellow researchers, experts and archivists at the premiere
event of the Jewish genealogy world, the 27th IAJGS International Conference
on Jewish Genealogy, Sunday, July 15, through Friday, July 20, in Salt Lake
City. The conference will feature a film festival, special exhibits, the
resources of the Family History Library and a wide array of presentations.
The conference website, www.slc2007.org, holds the key to programs, research
guidance, up-to-date information and easy-to-use registration

Here are some highlights:

MEET & EAT: Nine SIGs will hold luncheons and there will be four Breakfasts
with the Experts focused on the Family History Library’s extensive regional
resources. All meals have kosher options. Click “Conference Program” ->
“SIG/BOF” and “Breakfast with the Experts.”

PAST & PRESENT: A unique photographic exhibit of life in an Eastern European
community before the Holocaust, shown previously at major museums, will be
on display. Click “Photographic Exhibit.” The second Jewish Film Festival
will offer a large variety of topical films. Click “Conference Program” –>
“Film Program.”

TALK ABOUT IT: The SLC2007 discussion group is now open for your questions
and event announcements. For more info, click “Conference Discussion Group.”

BREAKING NEWS: For the latest conference news and updates, see the Friday
morning weekly bulletins. Click “Breaking News.”

DEADLINE: December 31 – only 10 days away – is the deadline for submitting
program proposals. To submit a speaking proposal, click “Call for Papers.”

MORE INFORMATION: Click the detailed “Frequently Asked Questions.”

The Conference Committee is looking forward to greeting you in Salt Lake
City and encourages you to visit the conference website for frequently
updated and detailed information, including additional conference plans,
online hotel registration and Family History Library resources.

See you in SLC!
Hal Bookbinder & Michael Brenner
Conference co-chairs


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Conference News #warsaw #poland

Conference Info <information@...>
 

Network with fellow researchers, experts and archivists at the premiere
event of the Jewish genealogy world, the 27th IAJGS International Conference
on Jewish Genealogy, Sunday, July 15, through Friday, July 20, in Salt Lake
City. The conference will feature a film festival, special exhibits, the
resources of the Family History Library and a wide array of presentations.
The conference website, www.slc2007.org, holds the key to programs, research
guidance, up-to-date information and easy-to-use registration

Here are some highlights:

MEET & EAT: Nine SIGs will hold luncheons and there will be four Breakfasts
with the Experts focused on the Family History Library’s extensive regional
resources. All meals have kosher options. Click “Conference Program” ->
“SIG/BOF” and “Breakfast with the Experts.”

PAST & PRESENT: A unique photographic exhibit of life in an Eastern European
community before the Holocaust, shown previously at major museums, will be
on display. Click “Photographic Exhibit.” The second Jewish Film Festival
will offer a large variety of topical films. Click “Conference Program” –>
“Film Program.”

TALK ABOUT IT: The SLC2007 discussion group is now open for your questions
and event announcements. For more info, click “Conference Discussion Group.”

BREAKING NEWS: For the latest conference news and updates, see the Friday
morning weekly bulletins. Click “Breaking News.”

DEADLINE: December 31 – only 10 days away – is the deadline for submitting
program proposals. To submit a speaking proposal, click “Call for Papers.”

MORE INFORMATION: Click the detailed “Frequently Asked Questions.”

The Conference Committee is looking forward to greeting you in Salt Lake
City and encourages you to visit the conference website for frequently
updated and detailed information, including additional conference plans,
online hotel registration and Family History Library resources.

See you in SLC!
Hal Bookbinder & Michael Brenner
Conference co-chairs


SITE CITE - Historical maps of Hessen #germany

buckidstein@...
 

A prerequisite for successful genealogical research in Germany is the
knowledge of the territory or state in which the ancestors lived. Laws and
customs regarding BMD registers differed a lot.

Extremely useful help for historical and genealogical research in the modern
federal state of Hessen (German spelling) is offered by the website of the
Hessisches Landesamt fuer geschichtliche Landeskunde

http://www.lagis-hessen.de

(lagis = Landesgeschichtliches Informationssystem Hessen / historical
information system for the state of Hessen)

It offers specialized maps of all centuries and territories, and more. Start
on the left with **Digitale Atlanten** (digital maps), continue with
**Geschichtlicher Atlas** (this is the name of an originally printed
collection of numerous maps). For those interested in the 19th century,
the pages 4 and 5 are useful.

If you want to have information about a specific locality use **Suche**
(search). When you add the word **Juden**, you get a bibliography.

Far more can be found on this website or with its links. I even got a map
and aerial view of my non-historical premises.

Gerhard Buck, Idstein, Germany _buckidstein@... (mailto:buckidstein@...)


German SIG #Germany SITE CITE - Historical maps of Hessen #germany

buckidstein@...
 

A prerequisite for successful genealogical research in Germany is the
knowledge of the territory or state in which the ancestors lived. Laws and
customs regarding BMD registers differed a lot.

Extremely useful help for historical and genealogical research in the modern
federal state of Hessen (German spelling) is offered by the website of the
Hessisches Landesamt fuer geschichtliche Landeskunde

http://www.lagis-hessen.de

(lagis = Landesgeschichtliches Informationssystem Hessen / historical
information system for the state of Hessen)

It offers specialized maps of all centuries and territories, and more. Start
on the left with **Digitale Atlanten** (digital maps), continue with
**Geschichtlicher Atlas** (this is the name of an originally printed
collection of numerous maps). For those interested in the 19th century,
the pages 4 and 5 are useful.

If you want to have information about a specific locality use **Suche**
(search). When you add the word **Juden**, you get a bibliography.

Far more can be found on this website or with its links. I even got a map
and aerial view of my non-historical premises.

Gerhard Buck, Idstein, Germany _buckidstein@... (mailto:buckidstein@...)


Re: ukraine digest: December 23, 2006 #ukraine

Carol
 

In response to "jcl me" <jamgai@...>

Have you tried:
- Naturalization papers
- Birth records for their children
- City directories before 1900 (if they were in a major place)
- Names starting with K (both in Russian and Yiddish, this is the way a hard
C would be spelled)

Carol Clingan
Auburndale MA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: ukraine digest: December 23, 2006 #ukraine

Carol
 

In response to "jcl me" <jamgai@...>

Have you tried:
- Naturalization papers
- Birth records for their children
- City directories before 1900 (if they were in a major place)
- Names starting with K (both in Russian and Yiddish, this is the way a hard
C would be spelled)

Carol Clingan
Auburndale MA


Re: ukraine digest: December 23, 2006 #ukraine

Marilyn Feingold <mrl516@...>
 

There were many other ports of entry for your relatives. You might want to
try Steve Morse's site. Good luck in your search.

Marilyn Feingold

----- Original Message -----
From: "jcl me" <jamgai@...>
greetings to all.

I give up!

I come to you for help in trying to figure and or find out
the original names my great great grandparents might
have had when they left the ukraine in 1886 to come to
america.

according to their first "appearance" in the 1900 us census,
they're listed as Morris and Pauline COHN. they were married
when before they arrived and were born in 1865 and 1867 respectively.

their names appear nowhere either in canadian or castle gardens
immigration lists.

is there any one, or perhaps, a site or somewhere I can
go try and figure out their original names before being "americanized"?

thank you, in advance, for any help with these questions.

cordially

Jeffrey Leeds
sherman oaks, CA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: ukraine digest: December 23, 2006 #ukraine

Marilyn Feingold <mrl516@...>
 

There were many other ports of entry for your relatives. You might want to
try Steve Morse's site. Good luck in your search.

Marilyn Feingold

----- Original Message -----
From: "jcl me" <jamgai@...>
greetings to all.

I give up!

I come to you for help in trying to figure and or find out
the original names my great great grandparents might
have had when they left the ukraine in 1886 to come to
america.

according to their first "appearance" in the 1900 us census,
they're listed as Morris and Pauline COHN. they were married
when before they arrived and were born in 1865 and 1867 respectively.

their names appear nowhere either in canadian or castle gardens
immigration lists.

is there any one, or perhaps, a site or somewhere I can
go try and figure out their original names before being "americanized"?

thank you, in advance, for any help with these questions.

cordially

Jeffrey Leeds
sherman oaks, CA