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Re: The name Betsy #unitedkingdom

Stan Rose <stan@...>
 

Jill

My late aunt Bessie was once mentioned in a census as Betsy. However, her
birth registration doc. >from Riga gives her name as Pescha.

I understand that Petsie is a yiddish form - or nickname - for Pescha and
so I suppose that is how she became Betsy and then Bessie.

Hope this helps

Stan
+++++++++++++++

At 09:00 25/03/2005, you wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the name Betsy translates as in Yiddish and
Hebrew? I have two ancestors I cannot find the records for, both born in
UK in 1870's. All the censuses list their names as Betsy. I have tried
Elizabeth/Bertha/Bessie and Basha. Of course, it could be a second name
without knowledge of a first name. But I suspect a pet name with a
different official name.

Jill Whitehead


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: The name Betsy #unitedkingdom

Stan Rose <stan@...>
 

Jill

My late aunt Bessie was once mentioned in a census as Betsy. However, her
birth registration doc. >from Riga gives her name as Pescha.

I understand that Petsie is a yiddish form - or nickname - for Pescha and
so I suppose that is how she became Betsy and then Bessie.

Hope this helps

Stan
+++++++++++++++

At 09:00 25/03/2005, you wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the name Betsy translates as in Yiddish and
Hebrew? I have two ancestors I cannot find the records for, both born in
UK in 1870's. All the censuses list their names as Betsy. I have tried
Elizabeth/Bertha/Bessie and Basha. Of course, it could be a second name
without knowledge of a first name. But I suspect a pet name with a
different official name.

Jill Whitehead


Re: The name Betsy #unitedkingdom

Jocelyn Keene
 

Dear Jill,
I have found Beilah or variants to be a common form of Elizabeth in
Hebrew records. It shows up in Hebrew records with Elizabeth or Betsy
in the civil records.
Regards,
Jocelyn

--- JCR-UK SIG digest <jcr-uk@...> wrote:

Subject: The name Betsy
From: "Jill Whitehead" <jill.whitehead@...>
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:00:49 -0000
X-Message-Number: 1

Can anyone tell me what the name Betsy translates as in Yiddish and
Hebrew?
I have two ancestors I cannot find the records for, both born in UK
in
1870's. All the censuses list their names as Betsy. I have tried
Elizabeth/Bertha/Bessie and Basha. Of course, it could be a second
name
without knowledge of a first name. But I suspect a pet name with a
different
official name.

Jill Whitehead


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: The name Betsy #unitedkingdom

Jocelyn Keene
 

Dear Jill,
I have found Beilah or variants to be a common form of Elizabeth in
Hebrew records. It shows up in Hebrew records with Elizabeth or Betsy
in the civil records.
Regards,
Jocelyn

--- JCR-UK SIG digest <jcr-uk@...> wrote:

Subject: The name Betsy
From: "Jill Whitehead" <jill.whitehead@...>
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:00:49 -0000
X-Message-Number: 1

Can anyone tell me what the name Betsy translates as in Yiddish and
Hebrew?
I have two ancestors I cannot find the records for, both born in UK
in
1870's. All the censuses list their names as Betsy. I have tried
Elizabeth/Bertha/Bessie and Basha. Of course, it could be a second
name
without knowledge of a first name. But I suspect a pet name with a
different
official name.

Jill Whitehead


VM 5755 - German Translation #germany

Geoff Kaiser <geoff_kaiser@...>
 

Dear fellow researchers,

I would appreciate assistance with translation of an old script German
document >from a family notebook recently sent to me. It is Viewmate Item
5755

Responses privately please

Many thanks

Geoff Kaiser
Melbourne, AU


German SIG #Germany VM 5755 - German Translation #germany

Geoff Kaiser <geoff_kaiser@...>
 

Dear fellow researchers,

I would appreciate assistance with translation of an old script German
document >from a family notebook recently sent to me. It is Viewmate Item
5755

Responses privately please

Many thanks

Geoff Kaiser
Melbourne, AU


INTRO - researching LEWY family from Ostrow, Posen, Prussia now Poland #germany

Airbair@...
 

I just joined this group. I have been a member of the Early American SIG
for a few months. I have been doing genealogy research for about 2 years and
consider myself at the intermediate level in German Jewish Genealogy research.

I live in San Francisco, California, USA.

My native language is English, and I also know French and German.
I consider myself advanced in using a computer and I have intermediate
Internet experience.

I have identified the names, birth and death dates of 8 great grandparents
and at least the names of 13 great great grandparents.

My primary research goals are now to find the ancestral locations and
families for the 6 great grandparents who immigrated to the US, mostly in the
1840-1850s.

Family names and towns/areas I am researching are:
LEWY - Six brothers born in Ostrow near Poznan, Poland (then Prussia) who
show up in the 1860 US Census in Montgomery, Alabama. Four brothers to Chicago,
IL by 1890.
KAHNWEILER - Louis, born in Gruenstadt, Germany in 1841, found in
Tuscaloosa, Alabama by 1861. Related distantly to Henri Daniel KAHNWEILER of Paris,
Picasso's art dealer, but exact relationship not known.
LOEWENTHAL - Berthold (and 5 siblings and father) born in Butzow, Germany in
1846, emigrated via Hamburg in 1866 to Chicago, IL.
LOEWY/SMITH - Born in 1839 in Europe, original name Karl LOEWY, changed to
Charles SMITH on arrival in US, lived in Baltimore, MD, 3 siblings in US with
LOEWY surname.
HAHN - Alexander, born in 1816, near Hamburg, living in Marengo County,
Alabama by 1850.

Jeff Lewy
San Francisco, CA


German SIG #Germany INTRO - researching LEWY family from Ostrow, Posen, Prussia now Poland #germany

Airbair@...
 

I just joined this group. I have been a member of the Early American SIG
for a few months. I have been doing genealogy research for about 2 years and
consider myself at the intermediate level in German Jewish Genealogy research.

I live in San Francisco, California, USA.

My native language is English, and I also know French and German.
I consider myself advanced in using a computer and I have intermediate
Internet experience.

I have identified the names, birth and death dates of 8 great grandparents
and at least the names of 13 great great grandparents.

My primary research goals are now to find the ancestral locations and
families for the 6 great grandparents who immigrated to the US, mostly in the
1840-1850s.

Family names and towns/areas I am researching are:
LEWY - Six brothers born in Ostrow near Poznan, Poland (then Prussia) who
show up in the 1860 US Census in Montgomery, Alabama. Four brothers to Chicago,
IL by 1890.
KAHNWEILER - Louis, born in Gruenstadt, Germany in 1841, found in
Tuscaloosa, Alabama by 1861. Related distantly to Henri Daniel KAHNWEILER of Paris,
Picasso's art dealer, but exact relationship not known.
LOEWENTHAL - Berthold (and 5 siblings and father) born in Butzow, Germany in
1846, emigrated via Hamburg in 1866 to Chicago, IL.
LOEWY/SMITH - Born in 1839 in Europe, original name Karl LOEWY, changed to
Charles SMITH on arrival in US, lived in Baltimore, MD, 3 siblings in US with
LOEWY surname.
HAHN - Alexander, born in 1816, near Hamburg, living in Marengo County,
Alabama by 1850.

Jeff Lewy
San Francisco, CA


Theresienstadter Gedenkbuch lookup #germany

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

If anyone out there has access to the

Theresienstadter Gedenkbuch:
Die Opfer Der Judentransporte
Aus Deutschland Nach Theresienstadt 1942-1945

and is willing to look up one name, would you please
contact me privately? RSteinig@...

Thank you.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island), New York, USA


German SIG #Germany Theresienstadter Gedenkbuch lookup #germany

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

If anyone out there has access to the

Theresienstadter Gedenkbuch:
Die Opfer Der Judentransporte
Aus Deutschland Nach Theresienstadt 1942-1945

and is willing to look up one name, would you please
contact me privately? RSteinig@...

Thank you.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island), New York, USA


KITAIZORD or KITAIGORD #ukraine

Alan Schwartz
 

Dear SIgers:

My grandfather may have come >from a town called KITAIZORD or KITAIGORD.
Can anyone tell me if there is such a town and where it is. Is it near Odessa?
ANy help will be appreciated. I can be emailed to alsces@....

Thank you,
Alan L. Schwartz


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine KITAIZORD or KITAIGORD #ukraine

Alan Schwartz
 

Dear SIgers:

My grandfather may have come >from a town called KITAIZORD or KITAIGORD.
Can anyone tell me if there is such a town and where it is. Is it near Odessa?
ANy help will be appreciated. I can be emailed to alsces@....

Thank you,
Alan L. Schwartz


Searching:from Vienna: Karl Heinz GOLDSCHMIDT;Ilse ABRAHAM (?KATZ);Siegfried SCHICK & Eva PARKER(nee JAROSCH) #austria-czech

Peter Lowe <Peter.Lowe@...>
 

Barbara KINTAERT in Vienna is trying to locate descendants of Jewish
families deported >from Servitengasse in Vienna, where she now lives. A
specific interest at present is locating living people in connection
with the unveiling of a memorial to those deported.

Would anyone have any information on any of these people, or their
families, who were living in Servitengasse, Wien in 1938 :


Karl Heinz GOLDSCHMIDT: Born on June 7th 1926. His mother was Vilma
GOLDSCHMIDT (nee UNGAR). Probably now in the USA.

Ilse ABRAHAM: Born on March 6th 1925 in Vienna, daughter of Emanuel &
Wilhelmine ABRAHAM; fled to Switzerland with her father. Possibly
married to a Mr. Katz.

Eva PARKER(nee JAROSCH): Born 25 Apr 1931; grandaughter of Siegfried
SCHICK (born Neu Bydzov in 1865). Probably on Kindertransport to
England, via Netherlands in Feb 1939.

If you have any information please contact me privately and I will pass
on details to Barbara KINTAERT.

Thank you

Peter LOWE
Hertford, England
Email: Peter.Lowe@...


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Searching:from Vienna: Karl Heinz GOLDSCHMIDT;Ilse ABRAHAM (?KATZ);Siegfried SCHICK & Eva PARKER(nee JAROSCH) #austria-czech

Peter Lowe <Peter.Lowe@...>
 

Barbara KINTAERT in Vienna is trying to locate descendants of Jewish
families deported >from Servitengasse in Vienna, where she now lives. A
specific interest at present is locating living people in connection
with the unveiling of a memorial to those deported.

Would anyone have any information on any of these people, or their
families, who were living in Servitengasse, Wien in 1938 :


Karl Heinz GOLDSCHMIDT: Born on June 7th 1926. His mother was Vilma
GOLDSCHMIDT (nee UNGAR). Probably now in the USA.

Ilse ABRAHAM: Born on March 6th 1925 in Vienna, daughter of Emanuel &
Wilhelmine ABRAHAM; fled to Switzerland with her father. Possibly
married to a Mr. Katz.

Eva PARKER(nee JAROSCH): Born 25 Apr 1931; grandaughter of Siegfried
SCHICK (born Neu Bydzov in 1865). Probably on Kindertransport to
England, via Netherlands in Feb 1939.

If you have any information please contact me privately and I will pass
on details to Barbara KINTAERT.

Thank you

Peter LOWE
Hertford, England
Email: Peter.Lowe@...


* Zabasearch (was: Search Engine for finding people in the USA) #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Folks,

"Zabasearch" is what is called a meta-search engine. It uses existing search engines and
databases to build its own results of a given search.

As a technical person, I see it as very poorly conceived. For example, the Google searches
it does should embrace the given and family names between quotes ("") to allow pertinent
results. Instead it does a generic search with all given names and family names included
in the original search. The result is that all "Moshes" in the world, who by any chance have
mentioned a "Schwarz" on any given web page, are also shown. For the same reason, the
image search results are mostly irrelevant.

As several previous members wrote, do not give much credit to this site. The only good
thing it does is to deliver several addresses for the same person or family.

Take care and chag Purim sameach
Tom

At 00:00 -0600 25.03.2005, JewishGen Discussion Group digest wrote:
Subject: Zabasearch
From: "Shlomo Katz" <SKATZ@...>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:03:25 -0500
X-Message-Number: 12

When I search I my name, numerous entries come up. I am there, with my
correct address and phone number, but no birthday. My picture is
attached, but so is a picture of someone else. And, the same pictures
comes up for other Shlomo Katzes also.
Shlomo Katz
Silver Spring MD
--
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen * Zabasearch (was: Search Engine for finding people in the USA) #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Folks,

"Zabasearch" is what is called a meta-search engine. It uses existing search engines and
databases to build its own results of a given search.

As a technical person, I see it as very poorly conceived. For example, the Google searches
it does should embrace the given and family names between quotes ("") to allow pertinent
results. Instead it does a generic search with all given names and family names included
in the original search. The result is that all "Moshes" in the world, who by any chance have
mentioned a "Schwarz" on any given web page, are also shown. For the same reason, the
image search results are mostly irrelevant.

As several previous members wrote, do not give much credit to this site. The only good
thing it does is to deliver several addresses for the same person or family.

Take care and chag Purim sameach
Tom

At 00:00 -0600 25.03.2005, JewishGen Discussion Group digest wrote:
Subject: Zabasearch
From: "Shlomo Katz" <SKATZ@...>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:03:25 -0500
X-Message-Number: 12

When I search I my name, numerous entries come up. I am there, with my
correct address and phone number, but no birthday. My picture is
attached, but so is a picture of someone else. And, the same pictures
comes up for other Shlomo Katzes also.
Shlomo Katz
Silver Spring MD
--
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Searching:from Vienna: Karl Heinz GOLDSCHMIDT;Ilse ABRAHAM (?KATZ);Siegfried SCHICK & Eva PARKER(nee JAROSCH) #general

Peter Lowe <Peter.Lowe@...>
 

Barbara KINTAERT in Vienna is trying to locate descendants of Jewish
families deported >from Servitengasse in Vienna, where she now lives. A
specific interest at present is locating living people in connection with
the unveiling of a memorial to those deported.

Would anyone have any information on any of these people, or their families,
who were living in Servitengasse, Wien in 1938 :

Karl Heinz GOLDSCHMIDT: Born on June 7th 1926. His mother was Vilma
GOLDSCHMIDT (nee UNGAR). Probably now in the USA.

Ilse ABRAHAM: Born on March 6th 1925 in Vienna, daughter of Emanuel &
Wilhelmine ABRAHAM; fled to Switzerland with her father. Possibly married to
a Mr. KATZ.

Eva PARKER(nee JAROSCH): Born 25 Apr 1931; grandaughter of Siegfried SCHICK
(born Neu Bydzov in 1865). Probably on Kindertransport to England, via
Netherlands in Feb 1939.

If you have any information please contact me privately and I will pass on
details to Barbara KINTAERT.

Thank you

Peter LOWE
Hertford, England
Email: Peter.Lowe@...

MODERATOR NOTE: It would probably be useful to post this query to the
Austria-Czech SIG list, where many knowledgeable regular readers do not
read the JewishGen Discussion Group. If you are not subscribed to that
list, go to http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager/members_add.asp

In general, we encourage anyone with a query for the JewishGen Discussion
Group (this list) to post here directly, by sending e-mail to
jewishgen@.... It is not necessary to subscribe to this list
to post here. Barbara Kintaert could have posted this query herself.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching:from Vienna: Karl Heinz GOLDSCHMIDT;Ilse ABRAHAM (?KATZ);Siegfried SCHICK & Eva PARKER(nee JAROSCH) #general

Peter Lowe <Peter.Lowe@...>
 

Barbara KINTAERT in Vienna is trying to locate descendants of Jewish
families deported >from Servitengasse in Vienna, where she now lives. A
specific interest at present is locating living people in connection with
the unveiling of a memorial to those deported.

Would anyone have any information on any of these people, or their families,
who were living in Servitengasse, Wien in 1938 :

Karl Heinz GOLDSCHMIDT: Born on June 7th 1926. His mother was Vilma
GOLDSCHMIDT (nee UNGAR). Probably now in the USA.

Ilse ABRAHAM: Born on March 6th 1925 in Vienna, daughter of Emanuel &
Wilhelmine ABRAHAM; fled to Switzerland with her father. Possibly married to
a Mr. KATZ.

Eva PARKER(nee JAROSCH): Born 25 Apr 1931; grandaughter of Siegfried SCHICK
(born Neu Bydzov in 1865). Probably on Kindertransport to England, via
Netherlands in Feb 1939.

If you have any information please contact me privately and I will pass on
details to Barbara KINTAERT.

Thank you

Peter LOWE
Hertford, England
Email: Peter.Lowe@...

MODERATOR NOTE: It would probably be useful to post this query to the
Austria-Czech SIG list, where many knowledgeable regular readers do not
read the JewishGen Discussion Group. If you are not subscribed to that
list, go to http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager/members_add.asp

In general, we encourage anyone with a query for the JewishGen Discussion
Group (this list) to post here directly, by sending e-mail to
jewishgen@.... It is not necessary to subscribe to this list
to post here. Barbara Kintaert could have posted this query herself.


Re: Where is Ariopol? #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Philip Belkin" wrote

My grandfather's place of residence, as listed in the Hamburg
Passenger List is Ariopol, Russland.

Does anyone know where in Russia is a place named Ariopol?

When he arrived at Ellis Island his place of origin was recorded as
Krasch, Russia.

I have not been able to find, so far, any reference to Ariopol or
Krasch on the internet.
Philip,

"Ariopol" appers to me as Annapol (also known as Anapol and Rachow-Annopol).
"Krasch" is most probably Krasnik, spell. [krah shnik], nearby larger town
located 16 miles distance >from Annapol.

Both towns (located in Imperial Russia Lublin Guberniya) had a large Jewish
population. Availabe on line JRI-P five marriage records for Annopol show
close family relations between those two towns. A curious is the detail that
all five grooms were >from Krasnik and all five Yiddishe maiden were >from
Annopol.

BTW, both towns were located on the on the Russian - Galicia (Austria)
border which are close to the researched by you shtetls of Rozwadow and
Tarnobrzeg (about 20 miles distance >from Krasnik).

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Where is Ariopol? #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Philip Belkin" wrote

My grandfather's place of residence, as listed in the Hamburg
Passenger List is Ariopol, Russland.

Does anyone know where in Russia is a place named Ariopol?

When he arrived at Ellis Island his place of origin was recorded as
Krasch, Russia.

I have not been able to find, so far, any reference to Ariopol or
Krasch on the internet.
Philip,

"Ariopol" appers to me as Annapol (also known as Anapol and Rachow-Annopol).
"Krasch" is most probably Krasnik, spell. [krah shnik], nearby larger town
located 16 miles distance >from Annapol.

Both towns (located in Imperial Russia Lublin Guberniya) had a large Jewish
population. Availabe on line JRI-P five marriage records for Annopol show
close family relations between those two towns. A curious is the detail that
all five grooms were >from Krasnik and all five Yiddishe maiden were >from
Annopol.

BTW, both towns were located on the on the Russian - Galicia (Austria)
border which are close to the researched by you shtetls of Rozwadow and
Tarnobrzeg (about 20 miles distance >from Krasnik).

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab