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Seeking information for a trip to Grodno Belarus and Sokolka Poland #belarus

b and b hoyt <bbhoyt@...>
 

Resubmit for posting to SIG as suggested by email about technical
issues last week.

I am planning a trip to the Grodno Belarus and Sokolka Poland area and
would appreciate any guidance or suggestions for how to conduct
research while on the trip or places to visit that may provide family
information.
Any other general guidance if someone has already made such a trip is
also welcome.
If anyone else is planning a trip, perhaps we can compare notes.

I am reading the Sokolka memorial book and will continue to research
information on the area.

My grandparents left the area for the US before WW1, it isn't clear
how many family members remained in the area.
The family surnames that lived in that area: Krawczyk, Litsky
I'm also researching the following surnames: Gorrelic, Weber, Golub

Thanks for any assistance.

Bobbi Kraftchick Hoyt
Houston, Texas
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


Belarus SIG #Belarus Seeking information for a trip to Grodno Belarus and Sokolka Poland #belarus

b and b hoyt <bbhoyt@...>
 

Resubmit for posting to SIG as suggested by email about technical
issues last week.

I am planning a trip to the Grodno Belarus and Sokolka Poland area and
would appreciate any guidance or suggestions for how to conduct
research while on the trip or places to visit that may provide family
information.
Any other general guidance if someone has already made such a trip is
also welcome.
If anyone else is planning a trip, perhaps we can compare notes.

I am reading the Sokolka memorial book and will continue to research
information on the area.

My grandparents left the area for the US before WW1, it isn't clear
how many family members remained in the area.
The family surnames that lived in that area: Krawczyk, Litsky
I'm also researching the following surnames: Gorrelic, Weber, Golub

Thanks for any assistance.

Bobbi Kraftchick Hoyt
Houston, Texas
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


Records of a divorce within the Jewish community of Hamburg in the 1790s #general

Jeffrey Herrmann
 

My 4th gr.-grandfather, Michel HERSCHEL (aka Meyer Michel HERSCHEL)
was born and lived his entire life in Hamburg. He apparently married
Rane HERSCHEL (possibly a cousin) on an unknown date, although I have
found no marriage record. They had five children between 1790 and
1798.
But in 1800 my 3rd gr.-grandfather, Bernhard Passach HERSCHEL was born
in Hamburg to Michel HERSCHEL and his then wife, Louise WOLFF
(daughter of a prominent Jewish banker in Halle an der Saale).
Although Loiuse WOLFF is described as his wife, I have found no
marriage record. Moreover, Rane HERSCHEL was still alive and lived in
Hamburg until 1839.
The straightforward possibility is that Michel divorced Rane before
1800. If so, what records would one expect to find in the Jewish
communities of Hamburg and nearby Altona?
The second marriage, if there was one, is unrecorded in Hamburg. If
it took place in Halle an der Saale, where would one be likely to find
records of it?

Jeffrey Herrmann


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Records of a divorce within the Jewish community of Hamburg in the 1790s #general

Jeffrey Herrmann
 

My 4th gr.-grandfather, Michel HERSCHEL (aka Meyer Michel HERSCHEL)
was born and lived his entire life in Hamburg. He apparently married
Rane HERSCHEL (possibly a cousin) on an unknown date, although I have
found no marriage record. They had five children between 1790 and
1798.
But in 1800 my 3rd gr.-grandfather, Bernhard Passach HERSCHEL was born
in Hamburg to Michel HERSCHEL and his then wife, Louise WOLFF
(daughter of a prominent Jewish banker in Halle an der Saale).
Although Loiuse WOLFF is described as his wife, I have found no
marriage record. Moreover, Rane HERSCHEL was still alive and lived in
Hamburg until 1839.
The straightforward possibility is that Michel divorced Rane before
1800. If so, what records would one expect to find in the Jewish
communities of Hamburg and nearby Altona?
The second marriage, if there was one, is unrecorded in Hamburg. If
it took place in Halle an der Saale, where would one be likely to find
records of it?

Jeffrey Herrmann


Possible descendancy from R' Chaim of Volozhin #rabbinic

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

I am trying to confirm a scribbled note which my great uncle wrote
that his wife was a descendant of R' Chaim of Volozhin. I have
searched various published trees of his family and have not found a
connection. This of course does prove that there wasn't a connection
as I know that many rabbinical trees do not include children who did
not become well known Rabbi. This was told to me by a member of the
SOLOVEITCHIK family which incidently are also connected to R' Chaim.

The details of my family are as follows:

My great great grandmother, Sarah Hinde KANTOR, the presumed
descendant, came to Jerusalem in the 1870s as a widow with 4 orphans.
Her deceased husband Shlomo was a Chazzan in Pinsk/Karlin.. Possibly
the most well known ofthe 4 was R' Chaim Dov KANTOR who lived in
Moshava Mayer Shfeya near Zichron Yacov and was the masgiach of the
yekev (winery) there.

Supposedly Sarah Hinde (or her mother) was an orphan at the time of
her wedding and R' Itzaleh, R' Chaim's son, took her to the chuppa
(canopy instead of her late parents. In an unconfirm note there
appears the name LANDAU which is very interesting as Itzaleh had a
daughter who was married to a R' Shmuel LANDAU and they both died at
an early age leaving at least one little daughter. I was contacted by
a descendant of this daughter many years ago butcouldn't find a
connection to them. I was thinking that possibly the above LANDAUs
may have had other children who do not appear in published trees of
this family.

Another theory may be that we are connected to a little known son of
R' Chaim, Yoseph who married a woman >from Shershev. He does not appear
in most published trees, possibly because he, or more probably his
son, became a chassid, which was not "politically correct" in those
circles.

I have checked with descendants of the above Chaim Dov but they are
not aware of a family connection to the Volozhin family except a
possibility that he may have been named for R' Chaim of Volozhin.

Anyone have any toughts or comments on the above?

TIA

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Possible descendancy from R' Chaim of Volozhin #rabbinic

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

I am trying to confirm a scribbled note which my great uncle wrote
that his wife was a descendant of R' Chaim of Volozhin. I have
searched various published trees of his family and have not found a
connection. This of course does prove that there wasn't a connection
as I know that many rabbinical trees do not include children who did
not become well known Rabbi. This was told to me by a member of the
SOLOVEITCHIK family which incidently are also connected to R' Chaim.

The details of my family are as follows:

My great great grandmother, Sarah Hinde KANTOR, the presumed
descendant, came to Jerusalem in the 1870s as a widow with 4 orphans.
Her deceased husband Shlomo was a Chazzan in Pinsk/Karlin.. Possibly
the most well known ofthe 4 was R' Chaim Dov KANTOR who lived in
Moshava Mayer Shfeya near Zichron Yacov and was the masgiach of the
yekev (winery) there.

Supposedly Sarah Hinde (or her mother) was an orphan at the time of
her wedding and R' Itzaleh, R' Chaim's son, took her to the chuppa
(canopy instead of her late parents. In an unconfirm note there
appears the name LANDAU which is very interesting as Itzaleh had a
daughter who was married to a R' Shmuel LANDAU and they both died at
an early age leaving at least one little daughter. I was contacted by
a descendant of this daughter many years ago butcouldn't find a
connection to them. I was thinking that possibly the above LANDAUs
may have had other children who do not appear in published trees of
this family.

Another theory may be that we are connected to a little known son of
R' Chaim, Yoseph who married a woman >from Shershev. He does not appear
in most published trees, possibly because he, or more probably his
son, became a chassid, which was not "politically correct" in those
circles.

I have checked with descendants of the above Chaim Dov but they are
not aware of a family connection to the Volozhin family except a
possibility that he may have been named for R' Chaim of Volozhin.

Anyone have any toughts or comments on the above?

TIA

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


Online Conference Registration Closing on July 20 #dna

IAJGS Conference Chairs
 

The 39th IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy starts in just two weeks! We
want to alert everyone to the fact that the online registration system
will close down automatically at the end of the day on Saturday, July 20,
just one week >from now. Visit the conference website at
https://www.iajgs2019.org .

After July 20, meal orders cannot be changed, and no additional meals may
be ordered.

Walk-in registration is allowed at the conference, but the registration
fee will be $50 higher. The cost of the audio recordings with slides will
also be higher at the conference, and even higher after the conference.

Jay Sage
Communications Chair


Online Conference Registration Closing on July 20 #latvia

IAJGS Conference Chairs
 

The 39th IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy starts in just two weeks! We
want to alert everyone to the fact that the online registration system
will close down automatically at the end of the day on Saturday, July 20,
just one week >from now. Visit the conference website at
https://www.iajgs2019.org .

After July 20, meal orders cannot be changed, and no additional meals may
be ordered.

Walk-in registration is allowed at the conference, but the registration
fee will be $50 higher. The cost of the audio recordings with slides will
also be higher at the conference, and even higher after the conference.

Jay Sage
Communications Chair


Online Conference Registration Closing on July 20 #yizkorbooks

IAJGS Conference Chairs
 

The 39th IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy starts in just two weeks! We
want to alert everyone to the fact that the online registration system
will close down automatically at the end of the day on Saturday, July 20,
just one week >from now. Visit the conference website at
https://www.iajgs2019.org .

After July 20, meal orders cannot be changed, and no additional meals may
be ordered.

Walk-in registration is allowed at the conference, but the registration
fee will be $50 higher. The cost of the audio recordings with slides will
also be higher at the conference, and even higher after the conference.

Jay Sage
Communications Chair


DNA Research #DNA Online Conference Registration Closing on July 20 #dna

IAJGS Conference Chairs
 

The 39th IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy starts in just two weeks! We
want to alert everyone to the fact that the online registration system
will close down automatically at the end of the day on Saturday, July 20,
just one week >from now. Visit the conference website at
https://www.iajgs2019.org .

After July 20, meal orders cannot be changed, and no additional meals may
be ordered.

Walk-in registration is allowed at the conference, but the registration
fee will be $50 higher. The cost of the audio recordings with slides will
also be higher at the conference, and even higher after the conference.

Jay Sage
Communications Chair


Latvia SIG #Latvia Online Conference Registration Closing on July 20 #latvia

IAJGS Conference Chairs
 

The 39th IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy starts in just two weeks! We
want to alert everyone to the fact that the online registration system
will close down automatically at the end of the day on Saturday, July 20,
just one week >from now. Visit the conference website at
https://www.iajgs2019.org .

After July 20, meal orders cannot be changed, and no additional meals may
be ordered.

Walk-in registration is allowed at the conference, but the registration
fee will be $50 higher. The cost of the audio recordings with slides will
also be higher at the conference, and even higher after the conference.

Jay Sage
Communications Chair


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Online Conference Registration Closing on July 20 #yizkorbooks

IAJGS Conference Chairs
 

The 39th IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy starts in just two weeks! We
want to alert everyone to the fact that the online registration system
will close down automatically at the end of the day on Saturday, July 20,
just one week >from now. Visit the conference website at
https://www.iajgs2019.org .

After July 20, meal orders cannot be changed, and no additional meals may
be ordered.

Walk-in registration is allowed at the conference, but the registration
fee will be $50 higher. The cost of the audio recordings with slides will
also be higher at the conference, and even higher after the conference.

Jay Sage
Communications Chair


Online Conference Registration Closing on July 20 #danzig #gdansk #germany #poland

IAJGS Conference Chairs
 

The 39th IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy starts in just two weeks! We
want to alert everyone to the fact that the online registration system
will close down automatically at the end of the day on Saturday, July 20,
just one week >from now. Visit the conference website at
https://www.iajgs2019.org .

After July 20, meal orders cannot be changed, and no additional meals may
be ordered.

Walk-in registration is allowed at the conference, but the registration
fee will be $50 higher. The cost of the audio recordings with slides will
also be higher at the conference, and even higher after the conference.

Jay Sage
Communications Chair


Danzig/Gedansk SIG #Danzig #Gdansk #Germany #Poland Online Conference Registration Closing on July 20 #danzig #gdansk #germany #poland

IAJGS Conference Chairs
 

The 39th IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy starts in just two weeks! We
want to alert everyone to the fact that the online registration system
will close down automatically at the end of the day on Saturday, July 20,
just one week >from now. Visit the conference website at
https://www.iajgs2019.org .

After July 20, meal orders cannot be changed, and no additional meals may
be ordered.

Walk-in registration is allowed at the conference, but the registration
fee will be $50 higher. The cost of the audio recordings with slides will
also be higher at the conference, and even higher after the conference.

Jay Sage
Communications Chair


Obertyn cemetery #galicia

Rod MacNeil
 

Yaron Wolfstahl asked this weekend about the Jewish cemetery in Obertyn.

The cemetery was destroyed and the headstones were used for local
building projects and roads.

A local Ukrainian businessman, Bogdan Stanislawski, bought the adjacent
property and cemetery property. On the adjacent property stood an old
barn whose foundation was constructed >from the headstones. Mr.
Stanislawski had the barn dismantled and moved the headstones to a
memorial row along the cemetery edge. Jonathan Shaffer has wonderful
pictures of this memorial on his website:
https://www.returntogalicia.com/copy-of-2016-photos-3

I met with Mr. Stanislawski last August when I was in Obertyn and nearby
Chortovets. I would have had family members buried in that cemetery. It
was a very moving and emotional experience for me.

Rod MacNeil
Philadelphia


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Obertyn cemetery #galicia

Rod MacNeil
 

Yaron Wolfstahl asked this weekend about the Jewish cemetery in Obertyn.

The cemetery was destroyed and the headstones were used for local
building projects and roads.

A local Ukrainian businessman, Bogdan Stanislawski, bought the adjacent
property and cemetery property. On the adjacent property stood an old
barn whose foundation was constructed >from the headstones. Mr.
Stanislawski had the barn dismantled and moved the headstones to a
memorial row along the cemetery edge. Jonathan Shaffer has wonderful
pictures of this memorial on his website:
https://www.returntogalicia.com/copy-of-2016-photos-3

I met with Mr. Stanislawski last August when I was in Obertyn and nearby
Chortovets. I would have had family members buried in that cemetery. It
was a very moving and emotional experience for me.

Rod MacNeil
Philadelphia


Seeking Bialystok Research Advice - SHERESHEVSKY #general

Daniel Mann
 

Dear all;

I have posted a Yiddish obituary of my ancestor Neche Devora SHERESHEVSKY
(Szereszewski). It is posted at
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM73939

It states that she passed away on December 6, 1930 in Bialystok {at
about 78 years old}, and that her father's name was Yisroel. This
means a birth of of about 1852. It also gives an address that is
somehow related to the funeral. (Perhaps Bialostoczanska 24; presently
it is Wlokiennicza).

Can anyone suggest a way to use this information to learn more about
Neche and her family? I would especially like to learn her maiden name.

Her husband was Aron. As he is not mentioned at all in the obituary it
is likely that he predeceased her. Is there a way to learn about his
death? Aron traveled much and in some places was known as Aron
Aronson. Nevertheless, family legend claims that he was a respected
member of the Bialystok community and that upon his death shopkeepers
closed their shops out of respect. Are there any newspaper indexes
available that might have a record of this?

Children include Meir who married Esther Leah Aidelman, Chana or Anna
who married Mordechai (Max Aronson?), Liba married Moshe Jelin
(Yellin), Isaac married to Anna Lipitz (Chana or Fanny), Yisroel
Shmuel, Yehudis who married Isser Brandt, and possibly Yehuda Leib
father of Aron, Esther, and Humcha.

This seems to be her 1914 address Szieriesziewskaja Niecha; Izrail;
Fabriczna; 222; 11-826

Any information or advice on how to learn more about these people
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanking you in advance.

Daniel Fishel Mann
London England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Bialystok Research Advice - SHERESHEVSKY #general

Daniel Mann
 

Dear all;

I have posted a Yiddish obituary of my ancestor Neche Devora SHERESHEVSKY
(Szereszewski). It is posted at
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM73939

It states that she passed away on December 6, 1930 in Bialystok {at
about 78 years old}, and that her father's name was Yisroel. This
means a birth of of about 1852. It also gives an address that is
somehow related to the funeral. (Perhaps Bialostoczanska 24; presently
it is Wlokiennicza).

Can anyone suggest a way to use this information to learn more about
Neche and her family? I would especially like to learn her maiden name.

Her husband was Aron. As he is not mentioned at all in the obituary it
is likely that he predeceased her. Is there a way to learn about his
death? Aron traveled much and in some places was known as Aron
Aronson. Nevertheless, family legend claims that he was a respected
member of the Bialystok community and that upon his death shopkeepers
closed their shops out of respect. Are there any newspaper indexes
available that might have a record of this?

Children include Meir who married Esther Leah Aidelman, Chana or Anna
who married Mordechai (Max Aronson?), Liba married Moshe Jelin
(Yellin), Isaac married to Anna Lipitz (Chana or Fanny), Yisroel
Shmuel, Yehudis who married Isser Brandt, and possibly Yehuda Leib
father of Aron, Esther, and Humcha.

This seems to be her 1914 address Szieriesziewskaja Niecha; Izrail;
Fabriczna; 222; 11-826

Any information or advice on how to learn more about these people
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanking you in advance.

Daniel Fishel Mann
London England


Re: Viewmate LEBENSOLD translation request [now in ** Russian **] #general

Peter Lebensold
 

Apologies Cousins:

David Price (thank you, David!) has just informed me that the Viewmate
I recently posted is in ** Russian ** (not Polish, as I'd assumed).
I would very much appreciate a translation. The family name is
LEBENSOLD, and it is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74120

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.

Peter LEBENSOLD, Toronto

Researching: LEBENSOLD/LIBENSCHULD/and variants (anywhere),
GELBFISZ/FISH/GOLDWYN (Warsaw, Los Angeles), SZAFIR (Warsaw), KORN
(Poland, Philippines, San Francisco), BAUMEISTER (Warsaw), BORENSTEIN
(Poland, USA, Canada), GUTLIEZER (Poland), OPOSDOWER (Poland), WERNER
(Poland, Glasgow), ZEMSZ (Poland)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Viewmate LEBENSOLD translation request [now in ** Russian **] #general

Peter Lebensold
 

Apologies Cousins:

David Price (thank you, David!) has just informed me that the Viewmate
I recently posted is in ** Russian ** (not Polish, as I'd assumed).
I would very much appreciate a translation. The family name is
LEBENSOLD, and it is on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74120

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.

Peter LEBENSOLD, Toronto

Researching: LEBENSOLD/LIBENSCHULD/and variants (anywhere),
GELBFISZ/FISH/GOLDWYN (Warsaw, Los Angeles), SZAFIR (Warsaw), KORN
(Poland, Philippines, San Francisco), BAUMEISTER (Warsaw), BORENSTEIN
(Poland, USA, Canada), GUTLIEZER (Poland), OPOSDOWER (Poland), WERNER
(Poland, Glasgow), ZEMSZ (Poland)

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