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Kleinmanns of Czechocz, Poland #general

Lysette Riley
 

Hello friends

My grandfather Emil Kleinmann, one of five brothers was born in 1884
in Czechocz before moving to Bludowice in Czechoslovakia. I am
looking for any information linking to the place and to the family.

Many thanks

Lysette Riley
New Zealand

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately with family information. Any other
information of general interest can be sent to the Discussion Group.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kleinmanns of Czechocz, Poland #general

Lysette Riley
 

Hello friends

My grandfather Emil Kleinmann, one of five brothers was born in 1884
in Czechocz before moving to Bludowice in Czechoslovakia. I am
looking for any information linking to the place and to the family.

Many thanks

Lysette Riley
New Zealand

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately with family information. Any other
information of general interest can be sent to the Discussion Group.


Re: Rules & Guidelins - please comment

Sally Bruckheimer
 

My comment is that I would like to see the Rules and Guidelines.  They aren't there.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Re: Group -- the Luddite position

Sally Bruckheimer
 

I agree with Dick. I won't open attachments from unknown sources. I'm sure you have gotten emails from people you know, when their computer has a virus, so the email makes no sense; well if you open an attachment, it can do terrible things to your computer. I have good virus protection, but I won't open attachments.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Memorial Plaques Database Grows to More Than 190,000 Records. Please help us grow! #general

Nolan Altman
 

JewishGen is proud to announce its 2019 pre-Conference update for the
Memorial Plaques Database (MPD). The MPD database can be accessed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/ The MPD database includes the
data >from plaques and Yizkor lists >from synagogue and other organizations.
Many of these sources include patronymic information.

This update added approximately 12,600 records and 11,200 photos >from 93
organizations and war memorials worldwide. This update brings the Memorial
Plaques holdings to 190,100 records and 135,300 photos >from 356 synagogues,
institutions and memorials representing 37 countries.

Of particular note in this update is a collection of approximately 1,400
records for UK related war memorials >from 29 countries. Other large
collections come >from Colorado, Indiana and Louisiana.

We believe that the MPD is a good example of how users of JewishGen's
databases can "give back". If you are a member of a synagogue or other
organization with memorial plaques or Yizkor lists, please consider helping
us to grow this database. You can find more information on submitting data
at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/Submit.htm If you have
additional questions, please contact me directly.

For a complete listing of the institutions currently in the database, please
see http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/tree/MemList.htm

Nolan Altman
NAltman@...
JewishGen VP for Data Acquisition
July, 2019


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Memorial Plaques Database Grows to More Than 190,000 Records. Please help us grow! #general

Nolan Altman
 

JewishGen is proud to announce its 2019 pre-Conference update for the
Memorial Plaques Database (MPD). The MPD database can be accessed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/ The MPD database includes the
data >from plaques and Yizkor lists >from synagogue and other organizations.
Many of these sources include patronymic information.

This update added approximately 12,600 records and 11,200 photos >from 93
organizations and war memorials worldwide. This update brings the Memorial
Plaques holdings to 190,100 records and 135,300 photos >from 356 synagogues,
institutions and memorials representing 37 countries.

Of particular note in this update is a collection of approximately 1,400
records for UK related war memorials >from 29 countries. Other large
collections come >from Colorado, Indiana and Louisiana.

We believe that the MPD is a good example of how users of JewishGen's
databases can "give back". If you are a member of a synagogue or other
organization with memorial plaques or Yizkor lists, please consider helping
us to grow this database. You can find more information on submitting data
at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/Submit.htm If you have
additional questions, please contact me directly.

For a complete listing of the institutions currently in the database, please
see http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/tree/MemList.htm

Nolan Altman
NAltman@...
JewishGen VP for Data Acquisition
July, 2019


ViewMate Translation - Russian.Polish #general

Jill Hans
 

Requesting translation of two birth documents. Would appreciate as
full a translation as possible. I am specifically trying to discover
the mother's maiden name as the transcription has possibly confused
mother's father's given and surnames.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74280
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VP74281

Thank you in advance for your time!
Jill Hans, Harrisburg, PA, US

MODERATOR: Please respond on the ViewMate response form.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Translation - Russian.Polish #general

Jill Hans
 

Requesting translation of two birth documents. Would appreciate as
full a translation as possible. I am specifically trying to discover
the mother's maiden name as the transcription has possibly confused
mother's father's given and surnames.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74280
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VP74281

Thank you in advance for your time!
Jill Hans, Harrisburg, PA, US

MODERATOR: Please respond on the ViewMate response form.


This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #general

Bruce Drake
 

Yekhiel Kirshnbaum remembers that after the Germans had been defeated,there were
Jews who believed they could return home and live peacefully in Poland even after
the brutal experiences of Nazi rule and the war. He tried and found that turned out
to be an illusion. I too had fooled myself.His chapter >from the Yizkor book of
Minsk-Mazowiecki fittingly is titled City Without Jews. He had survived a pogrom
in Minsk where a beating by hooligans put him in a cast for nine months, and then
hid out until the liberation in the Praga district of Warsaw. Returning to Minsk,
he walked the city without meeting a single familiar and cheerful face and where
people looked at him as if he was a madman. He tried carving out a life in
the new Poland for the next 24 years and decided it was a mistake. It's good that
nothing will ever again bring me back to this place which has become so strange to
me, he writes. He left for Israel in 1968.

URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/2399704986718309?__tn__=3DK-R

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #general

Bruce Drake
 

Yekhiel Kirshnbaum remembers that after the Germans had been defeated,there were
Jews who believed they could return home and live peacefully in Poland even after
the brutal experiences of Nazi rule and the war. He tried and found that turned out
to be an illusion. I too had fooled myself.His chapter >from the Yizkor book of
Minsk-Mazowiecki fittingly is titled City Without Jews. He had survived a pogrom
in Minsk where a beating by hooligans put him in a cast for nine months, and then
hid out until the liberation in the Praga district of Warsaw. Returning to Minsk,
he walked the city without meeting a single familiar and cheerful face and where
people looked at him as if he was a madman. He tried carving out a life in
the new Poland for the next 24 years and decided it was a mistake. It's good that
nothing will ever again bring me back to this place which has become so strange to
me, he writes. He left for Israel in 1968.

URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/2399704986718309?__tn__=3DK-R

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


Re: Test

Alan Shuchat
 

Testing to see if I can now post from an iPhone (where plaintext is not an option). Also if I can mix languages, such as русский and עברית successfully with English.

Alan Shuchat


Re: Discussion Group Updates

Yefim Kogan
 

Hello Avrami,  team,

I think that File Attachments should be permitted here.  It is an important feature which is missing from our current groups, and some people can provide links, others cannot.

I also have a question about other SIGs groups.  Are they going to use the same tool?

All the best,
Yefim


-----Original Message-----
From: Avraham Groll <agroll@...>
To: JewishGen@groups.io Group Moderators <JewishGen@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Jul 26, 2019 1:11 am
Subject: [JewishGen.org] Discussion Group Updates

Dear Beta Team -

Thank you to everyone who is helping to test this platform. You have contributed tremendous feedback. I am including a summary below of some questions/issues that have been raised and steps we have taken as a result of your feedback and suggestions.
Avrami

Security
  • The site is very secure. It will eventually be hosted on the JewishGen domain, and the actual groups have SSL certification.

File Attachments
  • A concern was raised about people submitting infecting files. Facebook groups do allow participants to upload files. However, we will initially restrict people’s ability to upload files. We have analyzed what other groups do, and it seems to be split. We will initially err on the side of caution in this regard. Note: While file attachments won't be permitted, users can provide links to files. For example, they can provide links to a file on Google Drive,etc).

Guidelines
  • Politics: We have updated the guidelines to include language which precludes any political language. As such, it will read: Posts should relate to Jewish genealogy. We do not discuss politics or religious issues (such as "Who is a Jew" and other discussions which are frequently raised within the context of researching one's roots).
  • Fundraising: We will initially not permit fundraising from any other groups. We are still studying this matter.

Functionality
  • File Attachments: A concern was raised about people submitting infecting files. Facebook groups do allow participants to upload files.
    We have analyzed what other groups do, and it seems to be split (some allow it, and some don't). We will initially err on the side of caution in this regard, and restrict the ability to upload file attachments. Note: While file attachments won't be permitted, users can provide links to files. For example, they can provide links to a file on Google Drive,etc.
  • Images: Users can submit images in most formats (such as JPEG, etc). TIF files are not able to be embedded within messages (if we decide to permit attachments, then TIF files could be included in this way). All images will be automatically resized to 488x488. The ability to upload images is not designed to supplant ViewMate - we will see what tools and options users take advantage of. Our experience on the Jewish Genealogy Portal is that researchers who need translation help will tend to quickly and easily share images on their phones. We want to provide this functionality on the groups as well.
  • Languages: The official language of the group is in English, but users can post in any language they would like. Obviously, they should be mindful that most people are speaking in English, but if people want to try and post in Hebrew or another language, we will allow it unless we see it is getting out of hand.
  • Email Options: People can choose to receive emails in 4 ways - see the image: image.png

Moderation
  • Signature: We should encourage people to include their name and location at the end of their posts.
  • Member Screenings: A concern was raised that we might be spammed by people who should not be in the group. As such, we have setup automation so that each time someone seeks to join the group, they receive an automatically generated email as follows: 
Thank you for your interest in joining the JewishGen.org Discussion Group. 
In order to ensure the security of everyone on the group, please answer the following questions then reply to this email. - The JewishGen.org Team
Question 1: Are you already registered on JewishGen.org?
Question 2: Why do you want to join the JewishGen.org Discussion Group?
Question 3: What are your Jewish genealogy research interests, e.g. list specific surnames, towns? (We recommend introducing yourself and posting them as soon as you are admitted to the group.)
We will not approve any requests of applicant who do not answer the questions and/or in a satisfactory way.
Note: We need some volunteers to help with the screening of new member requests. If you are interested in volunteering, please contact me.

Thank you again for helping test this new system. Please continue to post your comments and ssuggestions! We greatly appreciate your input and hope this new platform will be setup in a way that will help many thousands of people throughout the world.

Avrami
--
Avraham Groll
Executive Director
JewishGen.org
Edmond J. Safra Plaza | 36 Battery Place | New York, NY | 10280
646.437.4326 agroll@...
Visit us at JewishGen.org


Trial - my mistake

Rose Feldman
 

There were too many letters even with the digest and now I see that all my trials were successful. Not sure how you are going to work this, because it can really overload some people's mailboxes, and if someone is using the digest and there are attachments etc, it may be more than that person's mail server is willing to accept.  Maybe people just have to post it somewhere else and give a link.

Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year  
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy

Help us index more records at http://igra.csindexing.com

Keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general and Jewish and Israeli roots in particular with http://twitter.com/JewDataGenGirl


--
Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year  
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy


Trials

Rose Feldman
 

So all my trials failed and I didn't get a notice!!!!I
Sent a message in Hebrew, a pdf, a jpg inserted and a tif attached. At least I should have gotten a notice that they were not accepted.

Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year  
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy

Help us index more records at http://igra.csindexing.com

Keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general and Jewish and Israeli roots in particular with http://twitter.com/JewDataGenGirl


--
Rose Feldman
Israel Genealogy Research Association
Winner of 2017 IAJGS Award for Volunteer of the Year  
http://genealogy.org.il
http:/facebook.com/israelgenealogy


Discussion Group Updates

Avraham Groll
 

Dear Beta Team -


Thank you to everyone who is helping to test this platform. You have contributed tremendous feedback. I am including a summary below of some questions/issues that have been raised and steps we have taken as a result of your feedback and suggestions.

Avrami


Security

  • The site is very secure. It will eventually be hosted on the JewishGen domain, and the actual groups have SSL certification.


File Attachments

  • A concern was raised about people submitting infecting files. Facebook groups do allow participants to upload files. However, we will initially restrict people’s ability to upload files. We have analyzed what other groups do, and it seems to be split. We will initially err on the side of caution in this regard. Note: While file attachments won't be permitted, users can provide links to files. For example, they can provide links to a file on Google Drive,etc).


Guidelines

  • Politics: We have updated the guidelines to include language which precludes any political language. As such, it will read: Posts should relate to Jewish genealogy. We do not discuss politics or religious issues (such as "Who is a Jew" and other discussions which are frequently raised within the context of researching one's roots).

  • Fundraising: We will initially not permit fundraising from any other groups. We are still studying this matter.


Functionality

  • File Attachments: A concern was raised about people submitting infecting files. Facebook groups do allow participants to upload files.

    We have analyzed what other groups do, and it seems to be split (some allow it, and some don't). We will initially err on the side of caution in this regard, and restrict the ability to upload file attachments. Note: While file attachments won't be permitted, users can provide links to files. For example, they can provide links to a file on Google Drive,etc.
  • Images: Users can submit images in most formats (such as JPEG, etc). TIF files are not able to be embedded within messages (if we decide to permit attachments, then TIF files could be included in this way). All images will be automatically resized to 488x488. The ability to upload images is not designed to supplant ViewMate - we will see what tools and options users take advantage of. Our experience on the Jewish Genealogy Portal is that researchers who need translation help will tend to quickly and easily share images on their phones. We want to provide this functionality on the groups as well.
  • Languages: The official language of the group is in English, but users can post in any language they would like. Obviously, they should be mindful that most people are speaking in English, but if people want to try and post in Hebrew or another language, we will allow it unless we see it is getting out of hand.

  • Email Options: People can choose to receive emails in 4 ways - see the image: image.png


Moderation

  • Signature: We should encourage people to include their name and location at the end of their posts.

  • Member Screenings: A concern was raised that we might be spammed by people who should not be in the group. As such, we have setup automation so that each time someone seeks to join the group, they receive an automatically generated email as follows: 

Thank you for your interest in joining the JewishGen.org Discussion Group. 

In order to ensure the security of everyone on the group, please answer the following questions then reply to this email. - The JewishGen.org Team

Question 1: Are you already registered on JewishGen.org?

Question 2: Why do you want to join the JewishGen.org Discussion Group?

Question 3: What are your Jewish genealogy research interests, e.g. list specific surnames, towns? (We recommend introducing yourself and posting them as soon as you are admitted to the group.)

We will not approve any requests of applicant who do not answer the questions and/or in a satisfactory way.

Note: We need some volunteers to help with the screening of new member requests. If you are interested in volunteering, please contact me.


Thank you again for helping test this new system. Please continue to post your comments and ssuggestions! We greatly appreciate your input and hope this new platform will be setup in a way that will help many thousands of people throughout the world.

Avrami

--

Avraham Groll

Executive Director

JewishGen.org

Edmond J. Safra Plaza | 36 Battery Place | New York, NY | 10280

646.437.4326 agroll@...

Visit us at JewishGen.org


Re: Group -- the Luddite position

Dick Plotz
 

One feature of the Lyris system is that it's not capable of including
attachments. It would be very helpful for the overwhelming majority of
users to be able to attach files, but when that functionality is
added, it can easily be used for mischief. It doesn't even have to be
a malicious person doing it. Anyone can attach a file they don't know
includes malware. Or an attached file that passes our own screening
gateways could trigger an alarm on someone else's.

The consequences would be devastating to our ability to send mail to
our subscribers. Already maybe once or twice a year we get put on the
blacklist of one or another service that provides information to mail
providers about mailstreams that need to be blocked. Now we have an
ironclad defense: we are unable to send infected files because we are
unable to send attachments. No matter how careful we are with whatever
new system we adopt, once we start admitting attachments we
permanently lose this ironclad defense. It already consumes an
inordinate amount of time for us, or our subscribers, or both to argue
with mail providers about this. I don't know whether there's a
solution to this problem.

Dick


Re: Tombstones’ pictures

Barbara Ellman
 

My understanding is that it is illegal to take photos in Argentinian Jewish Cemeteries.  

I've been trying for years to get photos of family member headstones in Entre Rios.


Re: Rules & Guidelins - please comment

Marjorie Geiser
 

Avraham,

Since you asked us to comment, I'm commenting. I gather this will eventually replace the old EML? For now, does this mean we'll get both? I get the old EML as a daily digest, so I set this up the same. I'll see how it comes on.

Also, since a comment was made about the Facebook group, I'd like to say something about that. I LOVE FB groups! Now that I'm retired, most of what I use FB for groups. And family (close and extended DNA /family tree cousins). And I would use the GJ FB group in a heartbeat.

However, after making one post in the JG group, and a friend of mine who is NOT in the group commented to me about my post, I realized the group is public. As long as it remains public, where anyone can see our posts, I won't use it again. If it were to be changed to at least Closed, I'd use it in a heartbeat.

Margie


Re: ניסיון לכתוב בעברית

almassion@...
 

הינה עברית משתמש במחשב מקינטוש


Re: Yizkor Book Covers

almassion@...
 

Beautiful work. All the honor.