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ViewMate translation requests - 1 in Russian + 2 in Polish
#general
Richard Werbin <richard.werbin@...>
I've posted 2 vital records in Polish and 1 in Russian for which I need
translation. I would like an English translation of all the genealogically significant information. Names (including parents, spouse, etc.), ages, locations (birth & current), occupations. Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. The documents are on ViewMate at the following addresses: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74872 I think this may be the 1890 death certificate in Russian for my great great grandfather Nuta Wierzbicki . The name, date, place seem correct. http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74873 This is an 1844 marriage certificate in Polish for my great great grandparents. Nuta Wierzbicki & Liba Chustak in Szdlowiec. http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74874 I think this may be the 1841 death certificate in Polish for my great great great grandfather Szymcha Wierzbicki. The name, date, place seem correct. The 1844 marriage certificate says he was not alive at that time. Richard Werbin
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation requests - 1 in Russian + 2 in Polish
#general
Richard Werbin <richard.werbin@...>
I've posted 2 vital records in Polish and 1 in Russian for which I need
translation. I would like an English translation of all the genealogically significant information. Names (including parents, spouse, etc.), ages, locations (birth & current), occupations. Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. The documents are on ViewMate at the following addresses: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74872 I think this may be the 1890 death certificate in Russian for my great great grandfather Nuta Wierzbicki . The name, date, place seem correct. http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74873 This is an 1844 marriage certificate in Polish for my great great grandparents. Nuta Wierzbicki & Liba Chustak in Szdlowiec. http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74874 I think this may be the 1841 death certificate in Polish for my great great great grandfather Szymcha Wierzbicki. The name, date, place seem correct. The 1844 marriage certificate says he was not alive at that time. Richard Werbin
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ViewMate translation request - French
#general
Fred Half <halfhouse@...>
I've posted a vital record in French for which I need a translation. It is on
ViewMate at the following address http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74881 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page or contact me privately. Thank you very much. Fred Half Palo Alto, CA USA fredhalf@stanfordalumni.org
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - French
#general
Fred Half <halfhouse@...>
I've posted a vital record in French for which I need a translation. It is on
ViewMate at the following address http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74881 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page or contact me privately. Thank you very much. Fred Half Palo Alto, CA USA fredhalf@stanfordalumni.org
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Major new Kozienice records extraction project launched
#general
Patrick Atlas
Long-time Kozienice and area researchers will be pleased to learn that
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland has undertaken a huge new 'Phase 3' project to fully extract all Kozienice birth, marriage and death records from 1826 to 1911 and the surviving years of Alegata records >from 1826to 1911. To carry out this major initiative, we will be utilizing the scans (digital images) of all surviving Kozienice records in the Radom branch of the Polish State Archives. As Town Leader, it would be my pleasure to send you a full description of the project and explain how you will be able to obtain these extracts as well as digital images of your family records before they go online. I look forward to hearing >from you. Patrick Atlas Town Leader, Kozienice Phase 3 extraction project. PS: please answer with private message.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Major new Kozienice records extraction project launched
#general
Patrick Atlas
Long-time Kozienice and area researchers will be pleased to learn that
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland has undertaken a huge new 'Phase 3' project to fully extract all Kozienice birth, marriage and death records from 1826 to 1911 and the surviving years of Alegata records >from 1826to 1911. To carry out this major initiative, we will be utilizing the scans (digital images) of all surviving Kozienice records in the Radom branch of the Polish State Archives. As Town Leader, it would be my pleasure to send you a full description of the project and explain how you will be able to obtain these extracts as well as digital images of your family records before they go online. I look forward to hearing >from you. Patrick Atlas Town Leader, Kozienice Phase 3 extraction project. PS: please answer with private message.
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(US) National Cemetery Veterans Searchable Online Tool
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
The Department of Veterans Affairs and National Cemetery Administration has
announced a new searchable online tool for fallen service members buried in national cemeteries across the United States. This covers 136 national cemeteries with 3.7 million veterans are buried. There is a profile page for each service member. To find a memorial profile, go to https://www.vlm.cem.va.gov search the name of your veteran, using their first and last name. To read more see: https://connectingvets.radio.com/articles/search-veterans-va-national-cemeteries-tool [MOD. NOTE: shortened URL - https://tinyurl.com/yyf7ccmx ] I don't know how complete the online tool may be. If you are unable to find your relative please do not write to me but to vlmcustsupt@governmentcio.com Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (US) National Cemetery Veterans Searchable Online Tool
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
The Department of Veterans Affairs and National Cemetery Administration has
announced a new searchable online tool for fallen service members buried in national cemeteries across the United States. This covers 136 national cemeteries with 3.7 million veterans are buried. There is a profile page for each service member. To find a memorial profile, go to https://www.vlm.cem.va.gov search the name of your veteran, using their first and last name. To read more see: https://connectingvets.radio.com/articles/search-veterans-va-national-cemeteries-tool [MOD. NOTE: shortened URL - https://tinyurl.com/yyf7ccmx ] I don't know how complete the online tool may be. If you are unable to find your relative please do not write to me but to vlmcustsupt@governmentcio.com Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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ViewMate translation request - Russian
#general
Jeff Miller
I've posted five family pictures >from a book published by a cousin whose
first language is Russian. These pictures are of family members or maps that have Russian captions, for which I need translations into English. Also, please translate any additional material on the pages into English. The first is on ViewMate at the following address ...http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74860 The second is on ViewMate at the following address ...http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74859 The third is on ViewMate at the following address ...http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74858 The fourth is on ViewMate at the following address ...http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74856 The third is on ViewMate at the following address ...http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74855 The family surname is FREIDER Towns are either in Russia or Ukraine (the Ukraine town has old name Frampol, modern name Kosogorka) Please respond via the forms provided on the ViewMate image pages. Thank you very much. Jeff Miller
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - Russian
#general
Jeff Miller
I've posted five family pictures >from a book published by a cousin whose
first language is Russian. These pictures are of family members or maps that have Russian captions, for which I need translations into English. Also, please translate any additional material on the pages into English. The first is on ViewMate at the following address ...http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74860 The second is on ViewMate at the following address ...http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74859 The third is on ViewMate at the following address ...http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74858 The fourth is on ViewMate at the following address ...http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74856 The third is on ViewMate at the following address ...http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74855 The family surname is FREIDER Towns are either in Russia or Ukraine (the Ukraine town has old name Frampol, modern name Kosogorka) Please respond via the forms provided on the ViewMate image pages. Thank you very much. Jeff Miller
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Re: Hiding in the 1940 census
#general
Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
I truly appreciate everyone's help.
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David Rosen was kind enough to duplicate my ED search and confirmed that Great aunt Mary was not listed as an inmate of the Home. Perhaps Aunt Lillian (who has been dead for 30 yrs) misremembered the date she got her aunt Mary into the Home. Was there was another home for Aged Hebrews and Mary was there before entering the Home for Aged and Infirm Hebrews? (She was buried >from the latter - so I know she was there in 1942!) I guess this is one of those mysteries. In addition to my earlier email and in response to suggestions emailed me privately. 1. My husband's aunt told me she arranged Mary's admittance to the Home aft date of death than 3½ years later. 2. As far as I have found, she did not have a middle name or initial and I've traced her >from her birth in Kronach until her death in Aug 1942. 3. Except for the first 3 years immediately following marriage, she lived in the Bronx: at 650 E 182 st & 1617 Nelson ave. Her son, after his marriage in 1937, lived in the Bronx at 1387 Jesup av. All are in the same area. I can't see her moving to Manhattan when she was old and sick and alone. I doubt if Mery is "my Mary" as W 111 st is in Manhattan, not the Bronx. Also, the enumerator said she lived in same place in 1935. **But**, in 1935 "my Mary" lived in the Bronx w/her husband who died in Dec 1936. In addition, she is listed as being born in NY when she was born in Germany. **Again, my gratitude to all who tried to find her.** Barbara Mannlein
On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 3:02 PM Barbara S Mannlein bsmannlein@comcast.net wrote:
I need help locating Mary Mannlein ROTHSCHILD in the 1940 census.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hiding in the 1940 census
#general
Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
I truly appreciate everyone's help.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
David Rosen was kind enough to duplicate my ED search and confirmed that Great aunt Mary was not listed as an inmate of the Home. Perhaps Aunt Lillian (who has been dead for 30 yrs) misremembered the date she got her aunt Mary into the Home. Was there was another home for Aged Hebrews and Mary was there before entering the Home for Aged and Infirm Hebrews? (She was buried >from the latter - so I know she was there in 1942!) I guess this is one of those mysteries. In addition to my earlier email and in response to suggestions emailed me privately. 1. My husband's aunt told me she arranged Mary's admittance to the Home aft date of death than 3½ years later. 2. As far as I have found, she did not have a middle name or initial and I've traced her >from her birth in Kronach until her death in Aug 1942. 3. Except for the first 3 years immediately following marriage, she lived in the Bronx: at 650 E 182 st & 1617 Nelson ave. Her son, after his marriage in 1937, lived in the Bronx at 1387 Jesup av. All are in the same area. I can't see her moving to Manhattan when she was old and sick and alone. I doubt if Mery is "my Mary" as W 111 st is in Manhattan, not the Bronx. Also, the enumerator said she lived in same place in 1935. **But**, in 1935 "my Mary" lived in the Bronx w/her husband who died in Dec 1936. In addition, she is listed as being born in NY when she was born in Germany. **Again, my gratitude to all who tried to find her.** Barbara Mannlein
On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 3:02 PM Barbara S Mannlein bsmannlein@comcast.net wrote:
I need help locating Mary Mannlein ROTHSCHILD in the 1940 census.
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Rybia (Rybna) Street #3 in L'wow
#galicia
Hanna Gafni
I am trying to find out who the owner was and a list of tenants at Rybia
(Rybna) Street #3 in L'wow in the years before 1939. What are the best places to look, if such lists exist? Thank You, Hanna Gafni New York, NY
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Rybia (Rybna) Street #3 in L'wow
#galicia
Hanna Gafni
I am trying to find out who the owner was and a list of tenants at Rybia
(Rybna) Street #3 in L'wow in the years before 1939. What are the best places to look, if such lists exist? Thank You, Hanna Gafni New York, NY
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GELBERG-GAWENDA
#southafrica
Scooby Doo
Dear Fellow Genners,
I have just discovered an, until now, unknown family member. This discovery was via her husbands Naturalization Records in what was then Palestine in 1939. I know GELBERG is a common surname, but I am hoping someone out there may be of help in tracking down living descendants of this family, who may, or may not, still be living in Israel or providing me with any more info on this family. Here is all I have: Szmul Iccok (Shmuel Yitzchak) GELBERG married Sarah Wiktorja (Sarah Victoria) GAWENDA in Israel on 28 March 1926 Szmuel Iccok Gelberg was born in Warsaw in November 1897 His parents were Yehuda-Leib & Esther-Reizl Gelberg Sarah Wiktorja GAWENDA, was born in Warsaw in March 1900 I do not have any information regarding her parents The couple had 2 daughters both born in Tel-Aviv 1- Ada GELBERG born 1929 2- Ilana Aliza GELBERG BORN 1939 With grateful thanks Dr Joel Levy, London, UK Searching BLOOM,DAGUT,DAGUTSKI,GAVENDA,GAVENDO,GAWENDA, GOVENDO,GOVENDIR, GALINSKY,GILINSKY,GILINSKI,HARRIS,ISAACS,KING,LYONS, PHILLIPS,SAGER,SAGORSKY,SOGERSKY,SHER
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica GELBERG-GAWENDA
#southafrica
Scooby Doo
Dear Fellow Genners,
I have just discovered an, until now, unknown family member. This discovery was via her husbands Naturalization Records in what was then Palestine in 1939. I know GELBERG is a common surname, but I am hoping someone out there may be of help in tracking down living descendants of this family, who may, or may not, still be living in Israel or providing me with any more info on this family. Here is all I have: Szmul Iccok (Shmuel Yitzchak) GELBERG married Sarah Wiktorja (Sarah Victoria) GAWENDA in Israel on 28 March 1926 Szmuel Iccok Gelberg was born in Warsaw in November 1897 His parents were Yehuda-Leib & Esther-Reizl Gelberg Sarah Wiktorja GAWENDA, was born in Warsaw in March 1900 I do not have any information regarding her parents The couple had 2 daughters both born in Tel-Aviv 1- Ada GELBERG born 1929 2- Ilana Aliza GELBERG BORN 1939 With grateful thanks Dr Joel Levy, London, UK Searching BLOOM,DAGUT,DAGUTSKI,GAVENDA,GAVENDO,GAWENDA, GOVENDO,GOVENDIR, GALINSKY,GILINSKY,GILINSKI,HARRIS,ISAACS,KING,LYONS, PHILLIPS,SAGER,SAGORSKY,SOGERSKY,SHER
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Hitting walls in Slovakia
#general
Vicki Schulkin
Hello - I had such great luck asking this group a question about Poland, that
I thought I would try again for Slovakia. The village in Poland I asked about - Solinka - was directly across the border >from Slovakia, near the town of Vysna Jablonka. I know there were multiple marriages between the PACHTER family in Solinka (my immediate ancestors), and the ROTH family in Vysna Jablonka and the Humenne area. I am working with a member of the Roth family _ DNA shows pretty conclusively that we are related, but we haven't been able to pin down exactly how. I am not sure where to look for advice, or records. I think the area was considered to be in the Hungarian part of Austria-Hungary until WWI, then Czechoslovakia between the wars. I see there are SIGs for Hungary, Austria- Czech Republic, and Sub-Carpathia but I'm not sure if any of them cover this area. Any advice or suggestions would be very welcome! Thank you, Vicki Schulkin MODERATOR NOTE: Each town page in the JewishGen Communities Database indicates the Special Interest Group (SIG) to which each community is assigned. Go to the Humenne, Slovakia page at https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-842608 , scroll to the bottom and look on the lower right, it shows that this community is within Hungary SIG.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hitting walls in Slovakia
#general
Vicki Schulkin
Hello - I had such great luck asking this group a question about Poland, that
I thought I would try again for Slovakia. The village in Poland I asked about - Solinka - was directly across the border >from Slovakia, near the town of Vysna Jablonka. I know there were multiple marriages between the PACHTER family in Solinka (my immediate ancestors), and the ROTH family in Vysna Jablonka and the Humenne area. I am working with a member of the Roth family _ DNA shows pretty conclusively that we are related, but we haven't been able to pin down exactly how. I am not sure where to look for advice, or records. I think the area was considered to be in the Hungarian part of Austria-Hungary until WWI, then Czechoslovakia between the wars. I see there are SIGs for Hungary, Austria- Czech Republic, and Sub-Carpathia but I'm not sure if any of them cover this area. Any advice or suggestions would be very welcome! Thank you, Vicki Schulkin MODERATOR NOTE: Each town page in the JewishGen Communities Database indicates the Special Interest Group (SIG) to which each community is assigned. Go to the Humenne, Slovakia page at https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-842608 , scroll to the bottom and look on the lower right, it shows that this community is within Hungary SIG.
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Re: Sharing DNA with the Law Enforcement: FamilyTree DNA Revisited--Link Added
Jan Meisels Allen
Forgot to include the link, sorry: Jan
The Wall Street Journal had an article on August 23 about FamilyTree DNA being approached by the FBI requestiong uploading DNA for two casaes to see if there were genetic links to other users. The two cases involved a dead child whose body was never claimed and other was from a rape scene. Bennett Greespan is interviewed as why he made the decision he did and the further involvment with law enforcement –50 agencies--and the resulting changes in terms of service and creation of an advisory panel. Less than 2 percent of customers requested opting out of the law-enforcement searches.The article also addresses the privacy concerns for those who believe a court order/warrant is needed to do the comparison in genetic genealogy. The issue of other family members included by the submission of the DNA test which could be compared with the DNA sample from law enforcement is also addressed.
In addition to Bennett Greenspan, Stefani Elkort Twyford, president of the Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, is also quoted.
Thank you to Saul Issroff for sharing the article with us.
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Henryk TABORSKI
#germany
Yaron Wolfsthal
Dear Group,
In the course of my research about the WOLFSTHAL family of musicians, I just finished a search for Henryk TABORSKI and family at IKG (Israelitische Kultusgemeinde Wien) that led to zero results. According to this link https://musik-austria.at/mensch/henryk-taborski/, Henryk married that granddaughter of Jewish musician Herman WOLFSTHAL (uncle of Prof Josef WOLFSTHAL who taught in Berlin, and brother of Chune WOLFSTHAL from Galicia). However, extensive searches in all online sources known to me (in addition to physical visit to IKG) were fruitless. I'd highly appreciate the group's advice about how obtain genealogical information about this musician and his family history . Thank you - Yaron Wolfsthal, Israel. yaron.wolfsthal@gmail.com
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