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Re: Cherkassy-Smela #ukraine

sharon@...
 

I would also like to know what you are referring to when mentioning
“list for Smela”.  My Father’s family were all from Smela and
I have tried for year to get more information about Smela and
the residents.
 
Thank you,
 
Sharon Kushner   
Colorado Springs
 
Researching: ZAMANSKY, DOLINSKY, CHERKASSKY, ANNAPOLSKY

Moderator note: please respond back privately


Choice

Michael Palmer
 

Often when Internet programs are changed - “updated”, users are given the option to change back to the older/original format.
If this could be done with the new JewishGen many people could revert to the old one rather than
complain, AND have the option to use the new format if - and when they are ready.
Michael Palmer
Shalmuk, Schalamuk, Wolf, Glotzer, Kaplan


Re: New format

Joan A. Baronberg
 

Technically I am replying to Steven King’s message today but, my “reply” doesn’t automatically include his original message, so how would anyone know? (thus, I am copying and pasting that below*). The underlying point is that no one seems to have preceded this whole new platform by involving the Jewishgen digest readership in its selection. Personally, I find that objectionable—and as it proves, we all are seeing the consequences. It’s as if a basically private process (a group still unidentified to us by name) decided on this new step, rather than having the existing readership report if they were A-dissatisfied with the status quo, B-what are their priorities in a daily digest and C-on what devices or programs are they reading the posts? 

We have a wonderful and experienced group of researchers whose needs and interests and trust should be acknowledged. Can we go back to Square One and start this whole process over again?

Joan Baronberg
Denver, CO
{And BTW, we used to put in the family names we are researching right along with our signature on each message or reply. I’m renewing that custom. Mester, Master, Friedman, Weiser. Suchostav, Ukraine) 



New format 
From: Stephen Katz
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 15:03:35 EDT 

The new format is not an improvement. It is too complicated to be useful. The ultimate objective of users is to do genealogical research, and the digest should be merely a tool to facilitate research. Users should not have to spend their time grappling with and navigating around its many idiosyncrasies. One example: like others, I was receiving each day a frankly ridiculous number of emails containing messages posted to the digest, until I figured out how to opt to receive only the daily summary. But now, in order to read posts listed on the daily summary, I have to click on a posts's heading, which takes me to a different page, and then, after I've read the post, I have to navigate back to the daily digest to see what other posts I might be interest, and then repeat the process. This is definitely far too cumbersome to be useful.


Stephen Katz


Re: SIG emails

Naomi Finkelstein
 

I, also have not received a single message from the 4 groups to which I belong.


Daily summary

gnome-is-now@...
 

Yesterday, I changed my subscription to Daily Summary and today I received both.

Naomi Finkelstein


Re: websites and aids

Susana Leistner Bloch
 

Dear Esther,

 

I have no record of an messages from you.  Please e-mail me ASAP so I can get someone to help you.

 

Susana

 

From: main@... [mailto:main@...] On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 2:47 PM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] websites and aids

 

I had technical aids who helped me set up these  4 websites and add material to them. Now 2  of these aids are not able to help me. I need help to add the material to the websites. I do not have a way of doing so by myself. I have no way to get into these websites  to add the material. I contacted Suzanna a few times; but am still waiting for some help.. What should I do? 


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Re: SIG emails

Vivian Kahn
 

Messages have gone out to the Hungarian discussion list. I can't speak to the others but agree with others who have commented that messages don't go out if none have been received and moderated!  Also, may have been delays due to High Holidays.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
JewishGen Hungarian Research Director


Re: Digests vs Daily Summary

Ron
 

Is it possible to get a weekly report?  I find a daily e-mail to be too frequent.


Re: websites and aids

Esther
 

I had technical aids who helped me set up these  4 websites and add material to them. Now 2  of these aids are not able to help me. I need help to add the material to the websites. I do not have a way of doing so by myself. I have no way to get into these websites  to add the material. I contacted Suzanna a few times; but am still waiting for some help.. What should I do? 


Re: The IAJGS cemetery has been upgraded and has a new shorter URL

Nolan Altman
 

Thanks for all your help Kitty!


Re: SIG emails

Jeffrey Herrmann
 

The moderator says we have gotten no SIG emails because none have been sent. To try to verify this, I went to “search messages previously posted to the mailing lists” and clicked on the tab “JewishGen SIG Lists Message Archives.”  All I got was an error code.  So, I can’t even satisfy myself that I am missing nothing. As you say, “a coincidence”?
Even to  generate this reply, I had to request a special link to log on, because the JewishGen website doesn’t recognize my pass word when I try to send a message. 


Re: New format

Barbara Kenzer
 

I agree with you Steven Katz. This has not been useful. I would rethink this, because alot of us are at the age where it is harder to comprehend. 
Barbara Kenzer 
Chicago Suburb, IL


On Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 2:04 PM Stephen Katz via Groups.Jewishgen.Org <katzsr=verizon.net@...> wrote:
The new format is not an improvement. It is too complicated to be useful. The ultimate objective of users is to do genealogical research, and the digest should be merely a tool to facilitate research. Users should not have to spend their time grappling with and navigating around its many idiosyncrasies. One example: like others, I was receiving each day a frankly ridiculous number of emails containing messages posted to the digest, until I figured out how to opt to receive only the daily summary. But now, in order to read posts listed on the daily summary, I have to click on a posts's heading, which takes me to a different page, and then, after I've read the post, I have to navigate back to the daily digest to see what other posts I might be interest, and then repeat the process. This is definitely far too cumbersome to be useful.

Stephen Katz


Re: Daily summary; margins; format

Malka
 

Genners,

I am a long time genner and am presently visually overwhelmed by the new format and the number of daily mailings.  Still unable to switch to one daily digest.  Shalom, Malka from Texas

 


Re: Cherkassy-Smela #ukraine

Jane Foss
 

Grandpa isidore cholodenko.gamily.from.cherkassy


Re: I'm still confused (but at a much higher level now!)

Sue Frank
 

I’m receiving individual emails now. Look at the attached screen shot. Towards the bottom of the email there is a link to “Your subscription”. Following that link will take you to a web page where you will have to create a new password to access your subscription choices. One is for receiving individual emails. I hope this helps. 

Sue


On 15 Oct 2019, at 20:02, S&D Hirschhorn <sdh2381@...> wrote:


I want to receive individual emails as before. I appreciate that it is no longer necessary to use plain text and that attachments are possible, etc.  However, I seem unable to understand what many of the writers are telling us about what they have done to receive one summary a day. 
 
I don’t want that either.  I much prefer just receiving individual messages from the Discussion Group which allows me to delete or read or follow a thread that interests me.
 
Help!
 
Sandra Hirschhorn
Monroe Township, NJ


23andMe Loses Appeal Court Unpatentability for Identifying Relatives Against Ancestry #dna

Jan Meisels Allen
 

   

 

 

23AndMe sued Ancestry in a federal court in 2018 for infringement on its patents that describes a method of analyzing “identical by descent” regions of the genome and determining the degree to which two people in their database are related. In August 2108 that court found that the claim was “patent-ineligible” because they do not relate to any “inventive, unconventional technique’ related to their discovery or application.  Last week, the US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit affirmed the lower court ruling, finding against 23andMe who had appealed the lower court’s decision. The August 2018 ruling by U.S. District Judge Edward Chen in San Francisco, that was upheld invalidated 23andMe’s patent because it was directed to a “law of nature” that cannot be patented.

 

To read more see: 

https://www.genomeweb.com/business-news/appeals-court-upholds-unpatentability-23andme-ip

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 

 


Re: websites and aids

Angie Elfassi
 

Hi

I am not clear - sorry - are you offering help to set up a webpage?

Regards and thanks
Angie Elfassi
Israel


Re: #Digest

Angie Elfassi
 

Regarding jewsfrombukovina@... email

I would like to be able to see the thread, otherwise, if, I only read my emails, say, after a few days it will become very confusing.

Otherwise, the fact that I dont have to send my mail as plain text, and that I can add photos or other information, is great!

Regards
Angie Elfassi
Israel


Daily summary; margins; format

malka_f1
 

I'm a long standing Jewish Genner.  It's a wonderful research tool and I have learnt a great deal from reading all the messages over the years.  

Following helpful advice on here, i changed to the daily summary (or whatever nomenclature is now used) and i see 2 sections: the first being the subject header and the second being the messages.  As other Genners have pointed out, this is not user friendly, it is counter intuitive.  I felt dismayed.  Clearly this needs a rethink.  

Margins: pre the new format, the daily digest arrived, i opened it on my laptop and voila i could see all the messages neatly displayed on my screen.  Now, for some reason, I can't see from the beginning to the end of each line without moving my space bar back and forth.  This is user unfriendly.  However, on checking the new format on my kindle and phone, there isn't a problem with the display.  So whilst you have improved the display for other devices, for those of us who prefer to use a PC/laptop, there is now an issue.  Can this margins issue please be investigated and resolved for laptop users. 

Format: The previous format was simpler, easy to navigate.  I'm not an IT person, but neither am I a dinosaur, so whilst I understand the need for some change eg the use of different alphabets, the old format should have been retained whilst bringing on board the new innovations.  'why fix what ain't broke'?  

The words 'baby and bath water' come to mind.  

Clearly there needs to be a major rethink on a number of aspects of the new format. 

Malka
London, UK 



 


Re: I'm still confused (but at a much higher level now!)

S&D Hirschhorn <sdh2381@...>
 

I want to receive individual emails as before. I appreciate that it is no longer necessary to use plain text and that attachments are possible, etc.  However, I seem unable to understand what many of the writers are telling us about what they have done to receive one summary a day. 
 
I don’t want that either.  I much prefer just receiving individual messages from the Discussion Group which allows me to delete or read or follow a thread that interests me.
 
Help!
 
Sandra Hirschhorn
Monroe Township, NJ