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Re: JewishGen Discussion Group Update

Dick Plotz <Dick@...>
 

The Daily Summary is equivalent to the old Index setting, not the
Digest setting. All you see with the Daily Summary are the subject
lines, many of which don't say anything about what's in the post.

Unfortunately, the 12-message limit for receiving the full message is
set by the platform and can't be increased.

It takes me MUCH longer to scan the new digests than it did the old.
Part of this is that all the dirty laundry, personal chitchat, stuff
that may be interesting but isn't about genealogy, etc. that the
moderators used to shunt off elsewhere is now being posted and has to
be waded through to reach the occasional post with genealogy content.
Part of it is that the varying fonts and styles are distracting and
rarely add any information. The new format is undoubtedly more
entertaining than the old one was, but also less informative because
of all the distractions. Which is "better" depends on whether you
place a higher value on information content or entertainment value.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:02 PM Jeff at SG <jeffmalka@...> wrote:

The new platform is a significant improvement in many ways. IMHO, the 2 major problems can be rapidly solved as follows.

1. Daily digests.
It seems that all members who under the old system were subscribed to what were once a day digests were assigned to the new platform's 'Daily Digests' which is a misnomer because they are more than daily. A more logical assignment would have been to assign them to the new platform's 'Daily Summary'.

I suggest that the administrators correct this unfortunate choice by either
a) converting all these subscriptions to the more equivalent 'Daily Summary'.
b) preferably increase the content of the 'Daily Digests' to something like 50 instead of the current 12
...


Re: JewishGen Discussion Group Update

Dennis Wulkan
 

With all due respect, the limitation on the daily digest is arbitrary and does not meet user needs.  I do not agree that it is unable to be changed.  You have the ability and the technology if you
accept our input and user needs.  After all, the so-called 12 limitation is built in, you can change it to 24 or 48 easily enough.  I find the response of Mr. Groll to be uncharacteristically non-supportive. Clearly, the beta testing did not take these factors into consideration. Please consider changing.

(2) Daily Digests/Including Previous Messages

Many have expressed displeasure with the fact that they have received multiple digests per day. Let me explain: the system is set up whereby each time 12 messages are submitted, a digest is automatically distributed. We are unable to change this. 

Dennis Wulkan

 


Re: Ancestry Introduces AncestryHealth(R)

Marjorie Geiser
 

Several years ago, when I still had my business, I taught a CEU course for registered dietitians/ health professionals on nutrigenomics. DNA testing to determine health projections had been around for awhile and is quite fascinating. I did it for the course, and as a result made a few changes in my diet.

I received that notice from Ancestry, but I would suspect that we'd have the option to keep it private. 

Margie Geiser
Arizona

Marjorie Geiser, MBA


Re: SIG emails

sharon yampell
 

If no one wrote to the other SIG’s then you didn’t miss anything…we are in a holiday season so maybe some people are not up for keeping in touch until after Simchat Torah is over…

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of Sovtah <49tikkunolam@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:15:50 AM
To: davidahandlernv@... <davidahandlernv@...>; main@... <main@...>
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] SIG emails
 

I am not receiving SIG emails either. How do I see what I've missed?


Tel Aviv, Israel Marriage Record 1951 #israel

Dan Oren
 

Could any kind reader help direct me how to find a copy (printed or on-line) of the official marriage record from a 1951 Tel Aviv wedding?
Thank you kindly,
Dan Oren
Woodbridge, CT USA


Re: Still seeking immigration information Kaminsky

Yehuda Berman
 

My maternal grandmother (first name unknown) was originally a Kaminsky , from Odessa in what is now Ukraine. When my mother (born Zelda Echtman or Achtman) first came to America in the mid 1920's she stayed for a year with Kaminsky aunts and uncles in New York until she moved back to Detroit where her brother lived. But she lost contact with them - my family was not great on letter writing. Anyway, 40 years later she visited my older brother who was living in Manhattan and tried to look them up. But there were three pages of Kaminskys in the Manhattan directory and more in Brooklyn and she gave up. Apparently Kaminsky is a very common name.
--
Yehuda Berman


Re: JewishGen Discussion Group Update

EarthLink
 

So what you are saying, nothing will change and those of us who cannot use this misery are out of luck. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Avraham Groll
Sent: Oct 15, 2019 10:35 PM
To: main@...
Subject: [JewishGen.org] JewishGen Discussion Group Update #Help #JewishGenNews

Dear JewishGen Community,


Thank you for everyone's feedback (both positive and constructive). We want the JewishGen Discussion Group to be a place of open dialogue and for everyone's voices to be heard, and I am extremely grateful to everyone who has taken the time to share their thoughts, perspectives, and suggestions. I would like to address a few points tonight:


(1) The Process

Our sole motivation has been to address some of the challenges that we previously articulated (lack of security, plain-text requirements, no accented characters, not mobile-friendly, etc). This new platform was in response to frequent complaints that our previous system was antiquated and nearly unusable for many people. 


The stats bear this out. Last year, more than 40,000 people joined JewishGen as Members. Yet nearly none of them joined the Discussion Groups. This is not a typo - nearly none. We believe this was due to the very unfriendly interface of the old system, along with many of the rules/guidelines which were woefully outdated. As such, one of our goals of 2019 was to identify a replacement and to implement it. 


We tested a number of systems and eventually settled on the current platform. Our beta testing took place throughout the summer and early Fall and was performed by a group of ~150 people. The beta-testing was opened to anyone who wished to participate since the end of July. 


(2) Daily Digests/Including Previous Messages

Many have expressed displeasure with the fact that they have received multiple digests per day. Let me explain: the system is set up whereby each time 12 messages are submitted, a digest is automatically distributed. We are unable to change this. 


A possible solution to this will be to select the “Daily Summary” option. This feature will produce a once-daily list of the messages posted that day, but would not (unlike a Digest) contain the full message content. It would include just the subject lines, each being a link to the complete topic/list of messages. In this way, you will receive only one email per day. 


An additional advantage: when you click on the subject(s) that are of interest, you will be able to view all messages associated with that particular topic (including all messages/replies) - thus resolving the confusion about looking at posts with no previous messages included.


(3) Reply to Sender

We have enabled a feature whereby Members (who receive either individual emails, and/or full-featured digests) can reply directly to the message sender (and not respond to the entire group). That said, we encourage group discussions, as others might value the information. 


(4) Login and Member Guide

Many have asked about the login process to the new groups. This is to confirm that access to the JewishGen.org Discussion Group requires a new registration ((i.e. your JewishGen ID# will NOT work on groups.JewishGen.org). Anyone who was previously subscribed to the JewishGen.org discussion group, has been automatically assigned a password. Please enter your email at the following link, and a password link will be sent to you: https://groups.jewishgen.org/sendloginlink.

For additional information about this, please read through our Member Guide:

https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main/wiki/The-New-JewishGen.org-Discussion-Group-Member-Guide.


(5) Next Steps

We are going to continue researching how to make this platform as great as possible. To this end, either myself or Nancy Siegel (our Communications Coordinator ) will continue to post updates on this group and via email. In addition, we will be scheduling a series of webinars after the Holiday of Sukkot is completed. During these webinars, we will demo the entire platform, and allow participants to ask questions. These sessions will be recorded and made available for viewing on our YouTube channel as well. 


In the meantime, in order to allow the groups to focus on Jewish Genealogy, we kindly ask that you keep posting on this group for Jewish Genealogy or current happenings that affect Jewish genealogy or genealogical research. If you have any suggestions/ideas, etc., we kindly ask that you not use this forum, but please send it to support@.... This should also cut down significantly the number of messages that the discussion group will receive.


I thank you all for your participation, support of our important work, and for being part of the JewishGen family.

Avraham






Re: SIG emails

Sovtah
 

I am not receiving SIG emails either. How do I see what I've missed?


WOLFSTHAL family of musicians #unitedkingdom

Ann Rabinowitz
 

Looking at tombstones is one good resource for family info, but a more
diverse resource is checking out WOLFSTHAL on findmypast.co.uk
Once you do that you will find a wide variety of entries including an advert
by Laura Black, a former student of Josef Wolfsthal in an Edinburgh directory.
In addition, there are enemy alien records, manifests, census and registry data,
directories and the usual birth, marriage and death records. There is even an
overseas wedding record for Ruth Wolfsthal in Jerusalem.

In addition, there is a death record for Rose Laura Wolfsthal, born 1855,
died 1909, age 54.

You can also look up the surname in the British newspaper database where there
are 242 entries for Wolfsthal; 69 entries in the Irish newspaper database; and
250 entries in the US and World newspaper database.

Also, remember to look at the archives for The Jewish Chronicle which are
free if you have a subscription to MyHeritage.

All of that should keep you busy for a while!

Good luck!

Ann Rabinowitz
arabinow@...

---
Dear Group,
I'm new to the group, allow me to take a minute and introduce myself.
For quite some time I'm researching my family roots >from Galicia. It
was a large family, with special music talents. Some of them became
quite famous in this field.

In the beginning of the previous century, a part of the family
immigrated to the UK, in few waves. Among them were musicians (a)
Isidor WOLFSTHAL, (2) Kopel (Charles) WOLFSTHAL and (3) Abraham Ber
WOLFSTHAL . Family tradition continued, and some of their children
were also musicians (e.g., David WOLFSTHAL, son of Charles, who played
with the Beatles).


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom WOLFSTHAL family of musicians #unitedkingdom

Ann Rabinowitz
 

Looking at tombstones is one good resource for family info, but a more
diverse resource is checking out WOLFSTHAL on findmypast.co.uk
Once you do that you will find a wide variety of entries including an advert
by Laura Black, a former student of Josef Wolfsthal in an Edinburgh directory.
In addition, there are enemy alien records, manifests, census and registry data,
directories and the usual birth, marriage and death records. There is even an
overseas wedding record for Ruth Wolfsthal in Jerusalem.

In addition, there is a death record for Rose Laura Wolfsthal, born 1855,
died 1909, age 54.

You can also look up the surname in the British newspaper database where there
are 242 entries for Wolfsthal; 69 entries in the Irish newspaper database; and
250 entries in the US and World newspaper database.

Also, remember to look at the archives for The Jewish Chronicle which are
free if you have a subscription to MyHeritage.

All of that should keep you busy for a while!

Good luck!

Ann Rabinowitz
arabinow@...

---
Dear Group,
I'm new to the group, allow me to take a minute and introduce myself.
For quite some time I'm researching my family roots >from Galicia. It
was a large family, with special music talents. Some of them became
quite famous in this field.

In the beginning of the previous century, a part of the family
immigrated to the UK, in few waves. Among them were musicians (a)
Isidor WOLFSTHAL, (2) Kopel (Charles) WOLFSTHAL and (3) Abraham Ber
WOLFSTHAL . Family tradition continued, and some of their children
were also musicians (e.g., David WOLFSTHAL, son of Charles, who played
with the Beatles).


Re: Still seeking immigration information Kaminsky

Ellen Shindelman Kowitt
 

KAMINSKY is a surname in my family from the small town of Vistytis in modern-day Lithuania. It is located just north of the Polish border near Suwalki and also across a lake from the modern Russian border that was once East Prussia. You mentioned being from the Kiev, Ukraine area, which is not near, however the Russian Empire covered both of these areas and the surname is not that common. Good luck!
-Ellen Shindelman Kowitt


Still seeking immigration information Kaminsky- Merle Kaminsky

Rodger Cooper
 

I don't know if this person is related to your Kaminsky, but Merle was in my class at University City High School, in University City, Missouri.She got married and moved to Texas

Sincerely,

Rodger W Cooper



Re: lists of businesses in Oradea #romania

LucR <luc.radu@...>
 

SOCEC Business Directory

https://www.loc.gov/rr/european/phonero/romdir.html

Luc Radu
Great Neck, NY

On 10/15/19, 12:20 PM, "Romania SIG on behalf of Elran Dvir
elran.dvir@..." <rom-sig@...> wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hi All,

According to this
link:https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/source_view.php?SourceId=20699 ,
there is a list of businesses in Oradea that is searchable in JewishGen.
Is it true?
When I searched the town of Oradea in JewishGen Romania Database, I
didn't any source who description is "lists of businesses" or
something of this sort.

Thank you.


Romania SIG #Romania Re: lists of businesses in Oradea #romania

LucR <luc.radu@...>
 

SOCEC Business Directory

https://www.loc.gov/rr/european/phonero/romdir.html

Luc Radu
Great Neck, NY

On 10/15/19, 12:20 PM, "Romania SIG on behalf of Elran Dvir
elran.dvir@..." <rom-sig@...> wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hi All,

According to this
link:https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/source_view.php?SourceId=20699 ,
there is a list of businesses in Oradea that is searchable in JewishGen.
Is it true?
When I searched the town of Oradea in JewishGen Romania Database, I
didn't any source who description is "lists of businesses" or
something of this sort.

Thank you.


Re: Still seeking immigration information Kaminsky

R Jaffer
 

Have you obtained naturalization records, marriage and death records for everyone, and Isadore's WWII registration card? All of these might also tell you where the family had lived. Sometimes even obituaries and headstones will give this information.

Roberta Jaffer
Massachusetts


Re: JewishGen Discussion Group Update

Nancy Slome
 

Overall, I am very impressed with the new format. I switched over to the “Daily Summary” after I read how to make adjustments to my delivery settings. The summary is better way to easily access what’s important (to me), rather than the endless scrolling of the previous version.

Change is tough! And, having spent years in corporate communications and Web development, I really appreciate that you’re listening to the members’ concerns. 


Jewish Genealogy Society of Central Maryland - Oct. 21

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

Join us for an enriching genealogical learning experience on Monday, October 21 at 1:00 PM

 

"Collecting the Docs to Connect the Dots: A Crime Scene Investigator’s quest to obtain the most correct data from media and document sources”

 

Guest Speaker: Rick Winer

 

Rick Winer, a retired law enforcement officer with thirty years of service, spent twenty-two years as a Crime Scene Investigator (CSI) and Instructor in Frederick County, Maryland, investigating every type of crime from burglary to quadruple homicides, he has learned to dig deep into evidence in order to get to the truth. 

 

Rick, who was adopted at birth in Washington, DC, began his genealogy quest in 2001 with searching for both his biological and adopted family.  Using his determination honed by years of criminal investigations Rick dove in to a mountain of newspaper articles and documents to learn the truth about both family trees.  He will share the tips and pitfalls that he came across in his trek.

 

JGSCMd meetings are held at the Residences at Vantage Point, 5400 Vantage Point Road, Columbia, Maryland

 

Marlene Bishow

Director

JGSCMd@...

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: JewishGen Discussion Group Update

Madeleine Sann
 

I followed the instructions to get my pre-assigned password and when I clicked on the link in Mr. Groll’s message, I got to a page, I presume on JewishGen, that said I did NOT have a password. I created one. Will this now be my login to JewishGen or will I have two logins, my old and this new one?

I have been a JewishGen subscriber for at least 15 years. I hope setting my account to Daily Summary works because after a few days of the multiple digests, I started deleting without reading every message. I will be unsubscribing if this clunky workaround doesn’t pan out. I am subscribed to many different lists on a variety of subjects with daily digests that in fact ARE daily digests. I think the platform you picked is faulty.

Finally, I do NOT understand why since the rollout I’m not getting JRI/Poland or Gesher Galicia digests, which used to arrive daily. 

Respectfully,

Madeleine Sann


On Oct 16, 2019, at 1:35 AM, Avraham Groll <agroll@...> wrote:



Dear JewishGen Community,


Thank you for everyone's feedback (both positive reading and constructive). We want the JewishGen Discussion Group to be a place of open dialogue and for everyone's voices to be heard, and I am extremely grateful to everyone who has taken the time to share their thoughts, perspectives, and suggestions. I would like to address a few points tonight:


(1) The Process

Our sole motivation has been to address some of the challenges that we previously articulated (lack of security, plain-text requirements, no accented characters, not mobile-friendly, etc). This new platform was in response to frequent complaints that our previous system was antiquated and nearly unusable for many people. 


The stats bear this out. Last year, more than 40,000 people joined JewishGen as Members. Yet nearly none of them joined the Discussion Groups. This is not a typo - nearly none. We believe this was due to the very unfriendly interface of the old system, along with many of the rules/guidelines which were woefully outdated. As such, one of our goals of 2019 was to identify a replacement and to implement it. 


We tested a number of systems and eventually settled on the current platform. Our beta testing took place throughout the summer and early Fall and was performed by a group of ~150 people. The beta-testing was opened to anyone who wished to participate since the end of July. 


(2) Daily Digests/Including Previous Messages

Many have expressed displeasure with the fact that they have received multiple digests per day. Let me explain: the system is set up whereby each time 12 messages are submitted, a digest is automatically distributed. We are unable to change this. 


A possible solution to this will be to select the “Daily Summary” option. This feature will produce a once-daily list of the messages posted that day, but would not (unlike a Digest) contain the full message content. It would include just the subject lines, each being a link to the complete topic/list of messages. In this way, you will receive only one email per day. 


An additional advantage: when you click on the subject(s) that are of interest, you will be able to view all messages associated with that particular topic (including all messages/replies) - thus resolving the confusion about looking at posts with no previous messages included.


(3) Reply to Sender

We have enabled a feature whereby Members (who receive either individual emails, and/or full-featured digests) can reply directly to the message sender (and not respond to the entire group). That said, we encourage group discussions, as others might value the information. 


(4) Login and Member Guide

Many have asked about the login process to the new groups. This is to confirm that access to the JewishGen.org Discussion Group requires a new registration ((i.e. your JewishGen ID# will NOT work on groups.JewishGen.org). Anyone who was previously subscribed to the JewishGen.org discussion group, has been automatically assigned a password. Please enter your email at the following link, and a password link will be sent to you: https://groups.jewishgen.org/sendloginlink.

For additional information about this, please read through our Member Guide:

https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main/wiki/The-New-JewishGen.org-Discussion-Group-Member-Guide.


(5) Next Steps

We are going to continue researching how to make this platform as great as possible. To this end, either myself or Nancy Siegel (our Communications Coordinator ) will continue to post updates on this group and via email. In addition, we will be scheduling a series of webinars after the Holiday of Sukkot is completed. During these webinars, we will demo the entire platform, and allow participants to ask questions. These sessions will be recorded and made available for viewing on our YouTube channel as well. 


In the meantime, in order to allow the groups to focus on Jewish Genealogy, we kindly ask that you keep posting on this group for Jewish Genealogy or current happenings that affect Jewish genealogy or genealogical research. If you have any suggestions/ideas, etc., we kindly ask that you not use this forum, but please send it to support@.... This should also cut down significantly the number of messages that the discussion group will receive.


I thank you all for your participation, support of our important work, and for being part of the JewishGen family.

Avraham






Re: JewishGen Discussion Group Update

Mike Posnick
 

Abraham,

It seems to me that there is an easy way to determine whether the decision to tell us users what we need was the correct one:  run two lists side by side for a period of time, one in the old format and one in the new.  I am not suggesting that they duplicate one another.  Rather, I am suggesting that you let users pick which list they prefer to use and not duplicate the content.  I assume some users will stay with the old, some will choose the new, and some will choose both.  After three months or a year, you should be able to determine which is the most popular choice for existing users and how many new users join each list (the list format may not be the reason new members are not joining the list).  Once you have this information, you can determine which way to go in the long-term and give everyone a lengthy advance notice of the decision.

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota

On Oct 16, 2019, at 12:35 AM, Avraham Groll <agroll@...> wrote:

Dear JewishGen Community,


Thank you for everyone's feedback (both positive and constructive). We want the JewishGen Discussion Group to be a place of open dialogue and for everyone's voices to be heard, and I am extremely grateful to everyone who has taken the time to share their thoughts, perspectives, and suggestions. I would like to address a few points tonight:


(1) The Process

Our sole motivation has been to address some of the challenges that we previously articulated (lack of security, plain-text requirements, no accented characters, not mobile-friendly, etc). This new platform was in response to frequent complaints that our previous system was antiquated and nearly unusable for many people. 


The stats bear this out. Last year, more than 40,000 people joined JewishGen as Members. Yet nearly none of them joined the Discussion Groups. This is not a typo - nearly none. We believe this was due to the very unfriendly interface of the old system, along with many of the rules/guidelines which were woefully outdated. As such, one of our goals of 2019 was to identify a replacement and to implement it. 


We tested a number of systems and eventually settled on the current platform. Our beta testing took place throughout the summer and early Fall and was performed by a group of ~150 people. The beta-testing was opened to anyone who wished to participate since the end of July. 


(2) Daily Digests/Including Previous Messages

Many have expressed displeasure with the fact that they have received multiple digests per day. Let me explain: the system is set up whereby each time 12 messages are submitted, a digest is automatically distributed. We are unable to change this. 


A possible solution to this will be to select the “Daily Summary” option. This feature will produce a once-daily list of the messages posted that day, but would not (unlike a Digest) contain the full message content. It would include just the subject lines, each being a link to the complete topic/list of messages. In this way, you will receive only one email per day. 


An additional advantage: when you click on the subject(s) that are of interest, you will be able to view all messages associated with that particular topic (including all messages/replies) - thus resolving the confusion about looking at posts with no previous messages included.


(3) Reply to Sender

We have enabled a feature whereby Members (who receive either individual emails, and/or full-featured digests) can reply directly to the message sender (and not respond to the entire group). That said, we encourage group discussions, as others might value the information. 


(4) Login and Member Guide

Many have asked about the login process to the new groups. This is to confirm that access to the JewishGen.org Discussion Group requires a new registration ((i.e. your JewishGen ID# will NOT work on groups.JewishGen.org). Anyone who was previously subscribed to the JewishGen.org discussion group, has been automatically assigned a password. Please enter your email at the following link, and a password link will be sent to you: https://groups.jewishgen.org/sendloginlink.

For additional information about this, please read through our Member Guide:

https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main/wiki/The-New-JewishGen.org-Discussion-Group-Member-Guide.


(5) Next Steps

We are going to continue researching how to make this platform as great as possible. To this end, either myself or Nancy Siegel (our Communications Coordinator ) will continue to post updates on this group and via email. In addition, we will be scheduling a series of webinars after the Holiday of Sukkot is completed. During these webinars, we will demo the entire platform, and allow participants to ask questions. These sessions will be recorded and made available for viewing on our YouTube channel as well. 


In the meantime, in order to allow the groups to focus on Jewish Genealogy, we kindly ask that you keep posting on this group for Jewish Genealogy or current happenings that affect Jewish genealogy or genealogical research. If you have any suggestions/ideas, etc., we kindly ask that you not use this forum, but please send it to support@.... This should also cut down significantly the number of messages that the discussion group will receive.


I thank you all for your participation, support of our important work, and for being part of the JewishGen family.

Avraham






Re: JewishGen Discussion Group Update

Jeff at SG
 

The new platform is a significant improvement in many ways. IMHO, the 2 major problems can be rapidly solved as follows.

1. Daily digests.
It seems that all members who under the old system were subscribed to what were once a day digests were assigned to the new platform's 'Daily Digests' which is a misnomer because they are more than daily. A more logical assignment would have been to assign them to the new platform's 'Daily Summary'.

I suggest that the administrators correct this unfortunate choice by either
a) converting all these subscriptions to the more equivalent 'Daily Summary'.
b) preferably increase the content of the 'Daily Digests' to something like 50 instead of the current 12

The administrators should do these changes — not the members — because of the password difficulty explained in the next paragraph.

2. Subscribers access to changing subscriptions.
A lot of the frustration with the new (much better) platform is caused by the difficulties in changing the assigned subscription type because of the new password requirement.

To alleviate this I suggest that at the bottom of every mailing a paragraph be included that says in plain and brief English:

To change your subscription format and mailing frequency you need to reregister to JewishGen once again with a new password. Please go to  [link] to do so.
The available mailing types are:
-Daily Digest: packages of 12 messages at a time. (May be more than once daily)
-Daily summary: .....
Etc.

The [link] should take you to a webpage that briefly explains the new password requirement and contains the link to obtain the new temporary password.

I hope these simple suggestions are helpful.

Jeff Malka

Wed Oct 16 01:36:11 EDT 2019 Avraham Groll <agroll@...>:

Dear JewishGen Community,


Thank you for everyone's feedback (both positive and constructive). We want the JewishGen Discussion Group to be a place of open dialogue and for everyone's voices to be heard, and I am extremely grateful to everyone who has taken the time to share their thoughts, perspectives, and suggestions. I would like to address a few points tonight:


(1) The Process

Our sole motivation has been to address some of the challenges that we previously articulated (lack of security, plain-text requirements, no accented characters, not mobile-friendly, etc). This new platform was in response to frequent complaints that our previous system was antiquated and nearly unusable for many people. 


The stats bear this out. Last year, more than 40,000 people joined JewishGen as Members. Yet nearly none of them joined the Discussion Groups. This is not a typo - nearly none. We believe this was due to the very unfriendly interface of the old system, along with many of the rules/guidelines which were woefully outdated. As such, one of our goals of 2019 was to identify a replacement and to implement it. 


We tested a number of systems and eventually settled on the current platform. Our beta testing took place throughout the summer and early Fall and was performed by a group of ~150 people. The beta-testing was opened to anyone who wished to participate since the end of July. 


(2) Daily Digests/Including Previous Messages

Many have expressed displeasure with the fact that they have received multiple digests per day. Let me explain: the system is set up whereby each time 12 messages are submitted, a digest is automatically distributed. We are unable to change this. 


A possible solution to this will be to select the “Daily Summary” option. This feature will produce a once-daily list of the messages posted that day, but would not (unlike a Digest) contain the full message content. It would include just the subject lines, each being a link to the complete topic/list of messages. In this way, you will receive only one email per day. 


An additional advantage: when you click on the subject(s) that are of interest, you will be able to view all messages associated with that particular topic (including all messages/replies) - thus resolving the confusion about looking at posts with no previous messages included.


(3) Reply to Sender

We have enabled a feature whereby Members (who receive either individual emails, and/or full-featured digests) can reply directly to the message sender (and not respond to the entire group). That said, we encourage group discussions, as others might value the information. 


(4) Login and Member Guide

Many have asked about the login process to the new groups. This is to confirm that access to the JewishGen.org Discussion Group requires a new registration ((i.e. your JewishGen ID# will NOT work on groups.JewishGen.org). Anyone who was previously subscribed to the JewishGen.org discussion group, has been automatically assigned a password. Please enter your email at the following link, and a password link will be sent to you: https://groups.jewishgen.org/sendloginlink.

For additional information about this, please read through our Member Guide:

https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main/wiki/The-New-JewishGen.org-Discussion-Group-Member-Guide.


(5) Next Steps

We are going to continue researching how to make this platform as great as possible. To this end, either myself or Nancy Siegel (our Communications Coordinator ) will continue to post updates on this group and via email. In addition, we will be scheduling a series of webinars after the Holiday of Sukkot is completed. During these webinars, we will demo the entire platform, and allow participants to ask questions. These sessions will be recorded and made available for viewing on our YouTube channel as well. 


In the meantime, in order to allow the groups to focus on Jewish Genealogy, we kindly ask that you keep posting on this group for Jewish Genealogy or current happenings that affect Jewish genealogy or genealogical research. If you have any suggestions/ideas, etc., we kindly ask that you not use this forum, but please send it to support@.... This should also cut down significantly the number of messages that the discussion group will receive.


I thank you all for your participation, support of our important work, and for being part of the JewishGen family.

Avraham





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