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meaning of words on tombstone
#poland
kay@...
I am posting this question for my cousin who has been doing research for
several decades. He has asked me for help in understanding this contradictions. His grandfather, Gerson Cohen, immigrated >from Poland/Russia. The informant for Gerson's death certificate, his older son, said he didn't know Gerson's parents' names or their birth places. Yet the Hebrew on his tombstone says that he was "the son of Aryeh the Cohen". Gerson Cohen had a married sister, Minnie, and the informant for her death certificate, her daughter, likewise said she didn't know Minnie's parents' names or birth places. Yet the Hebrew on her tombstone says "daughter of Aryeh." Gerson and Minnie died within several months of each other in 1934 and are buried in the same family plot in Dallas. So I assume that the tombstone carvings may not reflect independent information. Aryeh means lion. I don't see how two death certificates could say the father's name is unknown yet the tombstones carry a name. His question was "is "Aryeh" a default name to carve in Hebrew on tombstones if you don't know the father's name? This seems highly improbable to me, but is there any other explanation for this? Does anyone have suggestions about this problem? Thank you Please respond to me at kay@kaycgoldman.com Kay Goldman
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Polish Translation Request
#poland
Nomi Waksberg <nwaksberg@...>
I've posted 5 vital records in Polish for which I need a translations:
They are on ViewMate at the following address http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72186 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72182 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72157 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72152 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72149 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. As always, thank you very much for your time and assistance. Nomi Fiszenfeld Waksberg Researching also Braun, Frydman, Zyngier, Wolkowicz, Elwig, Burman, Rambaum, Bijak, Gryzmek, Lewkowicz (relative by marriage)
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JRI Poland #Poland meaning of words on tombstone
#poland
kay@...
I am posting this question for my cousin who has been doing research for
several decades. He has asked me for help in understanding this contradictions. His grandfather, Gerson Cohen, immigrated >from Poland/Russia. The informant for Gerson's death certificate, his older son, said he didn't know Gerson's parents' names or their birth places. Yet the Hebrew on his tombstone says that he was "the son of Aryeh the Cohen". Gerson Cohen had a married sister, Minnie, and the informant for her death certificate, her daughter, likewise said she didn't know Minnie's parents' names or birth places. Yet the Hebrew on her tombstone says "daughter of Aryeh." Gerson and Minnie died within several months of each other in 1934 and are buried in the same family plot in Dallas. So I assume that the tombstone carvings may not reflect independent information. Aryeh means lion. I don't see how two death certificates could say the father's name is unknown yet the tombstones carry a name. His question was "is "Aryeh" a default name to carve in Hebrew on tombstones if you don't know the father's name? This seems highly improbable to me, but is there any other explanation for this? Does anyone have suggestions about this problem? Thank you Please respond to me at kay@kaycgoldman.com Kay Goldman
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JRI Poland #Poland Polish Translation Request
#poland
Nomi Waksberg <nwaksberg@...>
I've posted 5 vital records in Polish for which I need a translations:
They are on ViewMate at the following address http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72186 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72182 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72157 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72152 http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM72149 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. As always, thank you very much for your time and assistance. Nomi Fiszenfeld Waksberg Researching also Braun, Frydman, Zyngier, Wolkowicz, Elwig, Burman, Rambaum, Bijak, Gryzmek, Lewkowicz (relative by marriage)
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need data on Sephardic ancestor from Livorno
#sephardic
Paul Beek <paulbeek_1956@...>
Shalom,
Just read "Genealo-J/, /publication of the Jewish Genealogical Society of France, Issue 139, October 2019 has just been published." For my search into my Sephardic ancestor >from Livorno,I would like to know who can help me find my ancestor since no archive in Livorno has replied to my messages. It concerns my great great great great grandmother Esther Fionquino,born in Livorno in 1740 (she died in 1828 in Amsterdam),would like to have any data in her possible:date of birth,parents etc. She married Jacob Rimini of Verona but do not know when and where. Hope you can help me with this earch,thanks in advance, with best regards Paul Beek the Hague
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Sephardic SIG #Sephardim need data on Sephardic ancestor from Livorno
#sephardic
Paul Beek <paulbeek_1956@...>
Shalom,
Just read "Genealo-J/, /publication of the Jewish Genealogical Society of France, Issue 139, October 2019 has just been published." For my search into my Sephardic ancestor >from Livorno,I would like to know who can help me find my ancestor since no archive in Livorno has replied to my messages. It concerns my great great great great grandmother Esther Fionquino,born in Livorno in 1740 (she died in 1828 in Amsterdam),would like to have any data in her possible:date of birth,parents etc. She married Jacob Rimini of Verona but do not know when and where. Hope you can help me with this earch,thanks in advance, with best regards Paul Beek the Hague
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Re: Healthcare in #Belarus :This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page
#belarus
#yizkorbooks
N. Summers
Thanks so much for sharing this information on healthcare in Belarus. I’m just starting on my journey in exploring my family‘s history there and information like this makes the dry facts come alive.
Nancy Summers Maryland, USA areas of interest: #Radzillow, #Volyn; #Ostrog; #Rechitsa names: #Finkelstein, #Bookstein, #Goldman, #Lusman, #Lifschitz, #Lyss
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WOLFSTHAL - MESSINGER
#hungary
Yaron Wolfsthal
Dear Group,
As I'm new to the group, allow me to take a minute and introduce myself. For quite some time I'm researching the roots of my family - WOLFSTHAL - >from Galicia. It was a large family, with special music talents. Some of them became quite famous in this field. The Composer Chune WOLFSTHAL was one of them. At this stage in my research, to address many remaining gaps, I turned to examine the branch of the family which, as I've concluded, moved to Hungary for various reasons. Among other primary and secondary sources, I've looked at MyHeritage and found an entry >from 02.06.2016 where a researcher named "V. Kovacs" was looking for information about Rozalia WOLFSTHAL, whose father was Chune WOLFSTHAL, and husband was Bela MESSINGER. I had good information about the marriage of Bela MESSIGNGER and Rozalia WOLFSTHAL, but the specific connection to Chune WOLFSTHAL is a great discovery, if it can be established. Unfortunately, I could not establish a contact via MyHeritage to the researcher who placed that query. Therefore, I'm reaching out here to our entire H-SIG group with a kind request for any advice/contact to either the researcher "V Kovacs" or about the above-mentioned marriage connection of the WOLFSTHAL and MESSINGER families (and specifically to Rozalia and her father). Very thankfully, Prof. Yaron Wolfsthal, Ben-Gurion University, Israel (yaron.wolfsthal@gmail.com) Moderator: Please respond off-list unless you have info of general interest.
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Jaffa 1903
Roberta Lipitz <rlipitz@...>
My Grandmother Fanny (maiden surname Shore) at age 18 left Jaffa with her father and 1 younger sister via the La Lorraine out of LaHavre, France bound for Ellis Island. Have the ship's manifest but I am looking for any possible travel documents needed for the trip. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Sincerely, Roberta Lipitz
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Re: Healthcare in Belarus: This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page
#yizkorbooks
Dorcey Rose
My great grandmother was a Slobodkin/Slabodkin from Minsk area. She married my great grandfather, Solomon/Samuel Josselowitz/Fine from Kapyl/Kopyl about 55 miles SSW of Minsk where they lived and raised 6 children before immigrating to NYC in 1904. Some of her relatives who immigrated later shortened their surname to Slobin. One older cousin of my mother became a pharmacist in NYC. I have a family tree on Ancestry I would be happy to share with you. Frankly, I have no idea how common a name Slobodkin was in that area. Have you done your dna? Mine is on all the major sites. We had a cab driver in Maryland this past summer, who was a Jewish emigre from the Minsk area in the 1980s. He said that Jews were not allowed to live in Minsk proper when my relatives left. They lived in small towns around it. A doctor in your case may have had special privileges. Thanks, Dorcey Rose -- -- Dorcey Rose dorceyrose@... 410-703-3483 Florida US
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Re: Jewish Hungarian baron?
#hungary
גירון
Hello,
As for the specific question ( how and where titles were given) I
don’t know .
But , I heard from my late father , there were Jews who had
titles in Hungary .
My father grew up in Ujpest ( now the 4th quarter of Budapest
) which was a city with 20,000 Jewish inhabitants.
It was an affluent community , there was a family that had a title
Baron , they had a large leather factory .
It was said 30,000 people worked there in one shift and that the
railway branched into the factory and they had their own freight train station
.
Nava Giron
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Issue 139 of Genealo-J has just been published
#sephardic
Georges Graner <georges.graner@...>
//Genealo-J/, /publication of the Jewish Genealogical Society of France,
Issue 139, October 2019 has just been published. Leghorn (Livorno in Italian) has been for many centuries the hub of the Jewish communities and trade in the western Mediterranean Sea since the grand-duke of Tuscany decided in 1591 to welcome the Jews in this city. Alain and Liliane Nedjar, with Gilles Boulu, have begun to digitalize and analyze the very rich archives of Leghorn.To demonstrate what can be obtained >from these archives as well as >from Tunisian and French sources, these authors treat in details the Busnach family. The first known Busnach, named Micael, was expelled >from Oran (Algeria) by the Spanish in 1669 and settled in Leghorn. He had 4 sons: Said, Ilel, Abram and Naphtali. Said had no child but his three brothers were the ancestors of extended families which are described by the authors. Some members settled in Tunis and came back to Leghorn. Others commuted >from Algiers to Leghorn and Tunis. Some went to Malta and to Minorca. Several detailed family trees are given. Robert Romano's paper is divided in two distinct parts. He first tells the history of his grandfather Reuben Romano, born in Salonika in 1862. He was first a very wealthy businessman owning a large quarry. But two events changed his life: first Salonika was conquered by the Greeks in 1912 and the Greek government seized Reuben's quarry since he could not prove his ownership. Then, on August 18, 1917, a terrible fire destroyed most of the Jewish neighborhood and Reuben was completely ruined. The family lived in misery until they decided in 1931 to migrate to Paris. Alas, on November 5, 1942, the French police arrested a great deal of "Greek" Jews. Reuben, aged 80, his wife, two of their children and several of their grandchildren were deported to Auschwitz and assassinated.In the second part, the author tries to understand the origin of the surname Romano which is found all over Europe but especially in Spain and Italy: Sicily, northern Italy and even, surprisingly, Rome itself. According to him, this surname derives not from Rome but >from Romania, the name under which the Byzantine Empirewas known in its time. Anne-Marie Faraggi-Rychner also deals with her ancestors >from Salonika. They were "protected" by the French consulate, a privileged statute due to their activity as "drogman" or interpreter. Simon Farach (ca. 1750 - 1838) is attested as drogman and protected in 1775. His offsprings are given for three generations. Nadia Hofnung, nee Darmon, describes the most noteworthy members of her Algerian family. Rabbi Mordekhai Darmon (1730- Oran 1815) was the head of the Jewish community of Mascara and well appreciated by the local Ottoman authorities, the bey of Mascara and the dey of Alger. When Oran was taken by the Turks >from the Spanish in 1792, he moved to this city where he refounded the Jewish community. When France conquered Algeria, two brothers, Amran (Oran 1815-Mascara 1878)and Mardochee (Oran 1826-Tlemcen 1898)Darmon became official interpreters in the French army. Amran played an important role during the revolt of Abd-el-Kader to protect the Jews stuck between the two armies. He was given the "Legion d'Honneur" in 1852 and the French citizenship by an imperial decree in 1865. Mardochee lived longer and had official roles as judiciary interpreter and member of the city council. As his brother, he was given the French citizenship in 1866, four years before the Cremieux decree applied to all the Jews of Algeria. Diane Esther Darmon**(Tlemcen 1892 - Grenoble 1979), the grandmother of Nadia Hofnung, lost her mother when she was 11 days old. When she was only 15 years old, she married Sadia Darmon (Lamoriciere 1884 -Beni Saf 1943) who was a rabbi and an erudite person. When WWI begun, he volunteered in the French Army and became chaplain. He was gassed in 1916 and lived the rest of his life with pulmonary problems. Georges Graner
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Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Issue 139 of Genealo-J has just been published
#sephardic
Georges Graner <georges.graner@...>
//Genealo-J/, /publication of the Jewish Genealogical Society of France,
Issue 139, October 2019 has just been published. Leghorn (Livorno in Italian) has been for many centuries the hub of the Jewish communities and trade in the western Mediterranean Sea since the grand-duke of Tuscany decided in 1591 to welcome the Jews in this city. Alain and Liliane Nedjar, with Gilles Boulu, have begun to digitalize and analyze the very rich archives of Leghorn.To demonstrate what can be obtained >from these archives as well as >from Tunisian and French sources, these authors treat in details the Busnach family. The first known Busnach, named Micael, was expelled >from Oran (Algeria) by the Spanish in 1669 and settled in Leghorn. He had 4 sons: Said, Ilel, Abram and Naphtali. Said had no child but his three brothers were the ancestors of extended families which are described by the authors. Some members settled in Tunis and came back to Leghorn. Others commuted >from Algiers to Leghorn and Tunis. Some went to Malta and to Minorca. Several detailed family trees are given. Robert Romano's paper is divided in two distinct parts. He first tells the history of his grandfather Reuben Romano, born in Salonika in 1862. He was first a very wealthy businessman owning a large quarry. But two events changed his life: first Salonika was conquered by the Greeks in 1912 and the Greek government seized Reuben's quarry since he could not prove his ownership. Then, on August 18, 1917, a terrible fire destroyed most of the Jewish neighborhood and Reuben was completely ruined. The family lived in misery until they decided in 1931 to migrate to Paris. Alas, on November 5, 1942, the French police arrested a great deal of "Greek" Jews. Reuben, aged 80, his wife, two of their children and several of their grandchildren were deported to Auschwitz and assassinated.In the second part, the author tries to understand the origin of the surname Romano which is found all over Europe but especially in Spain and Italy: Sicily, northern Italy and even, surprisingly, Rome itself. According to him, this surname derives not from Rome but >from Romania, the name under which the Byzantine Empirewas known in its time. Anne-Marie Faraggi-Rychner also deals with her ancestors >from Salonika. They were "protected" by the French consulate, a privileged statute due to their activity as "drogman" or interpreter. Simon Farach (ca. 1750 - 1838) is attested as drogman and protected in 1775. His offsprings are given for three generations. Nadia Hofnung, nee Darmon, describes the most noteworthy members of her Algerian family. Rabbi Mordekhai Darmon (1730- Oran 1815) was the head of the Jewish community of Mascara and well appreciated by the local Ottoman authorities, the bey of Mascara and the dey of Alger. When Oran was taken by the Turks >from the Spanish in 1792, he moved to this city where he refounded the Jewish community. When France conquered Algeria, two brothers, Amran (Oran 1815-Mascara 1878)and Mardochee (Oran 1826-Tlemcen 1898)Darmon became official interpreters in the French army. Amran played an important role during the revolt of Abd-el-Kader to protect the Jews stuck between the two armies. He was given the "Legion d'Honneur" in 1852 and the French citizenship by an imperial decree in 1865. Mardochee lived longer and had official roles as judiciary interpreter and member of the city council. As his brother, he was given the French citizenship in 1866, four years before the Cremieux decree applied to all the Jews of Algeria. Diane Esther Darmon**(Tlemcen 1892 - Grenoble 1979), the grandmother of Nadia Hofnung, lost her mother when she was 11 days old. When she was only 15 years old, she married Sadia Darmon (Lamoriciere 1884 -Beni Saf 1943) who was a rabbi and an erudite person. When WWI begun, he volunteered in the French Army and became chaplain. He was gassed in 1916 and lived the rest of his life with pulmonary problems. Georges Graner
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Klyetsk book
#belarus
Carol
I was overwhelmed by the response to my post about the Klyetsk Yizkor book!
So many people wrote asking for the book and telling me about their own ties to the town. But what was most touching, I think, were the number of people who said: don't give it to a person, give it to an institution like YIVO or the Yiddish Book Center where it can be shared. I found that very compelling and have been investigating where it might be welcome. If the owner decides he still wants to give it to an individual, the first person who wrote knows who she is. If it goes to an institution, I will post where, so that the many of you who wrote will be able to access a copy. Carol Isenberg Clingan Dedham MA
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Klyetsk book
#belarus
Carol
I was overwhelmed by the response to my post about the Klyetsk Yizkor book!
So many people wrote asking for the book and telling me about their own ties to the town. But what was most touching, I think, were the number of people who said: don't give it to a person, give it to an institution like YIVO or the Yiddish Book Center where it can be shared. I found that very compelling and have been investigating where it might be welcome. If the owner decides he still wants to give it to an individual, the first person who wrote knows who she is. If it goes to an institution, I will post where, so that the many of you who wrote will be able to access a copy. Carol Isenberg Clingan Dedham MA
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Require translation of Arolsen Archives documents
Rose
Dear Group
I recently received a number of documents from the Arolsen Archives in Germany for my maternal uncle Alexander HAZET which require translation. There are far too many to post on JewishGen but I would be grateful if anyone is able to assist with the translation.
Please contact me if you’re able to help in any way.
Best wishes
Rose Raymen Perth, Western Australia
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Jewish Genealogy Society of Maryland Oct 27 program
Speaker: Kira Dolcimascolo Title: “The Heymann Family of Greifenberg” Date and Time: Sunday, October 27, 2019, 1:30 p.m. Location: Pikesville Library’s meeting room, 1301 Reisterstown Rd, Pikesville, MD
Please join us on Sunday, October 27, 2019, at 1:30 p.m. at the Pikesville Library’s meeting room, 1301 Reisterstown Road, Pikesville, when Kira Dolcimascolo presents our next program: “The Heymann Family of Greifenberg.”
In this presentation, Kira Dolcimascolo tells the story of her great-grandmother Emma Heymann, and her 10 siblings from Greifenberg in Pomerania and Berlin. Members of this unusual family include not only circus strongwoman Katie Sandwina, but a boxer, a soap opera actor, a dancer, a “sausage man,” a “hobby-dentist,” Shanghai refugees, and descendants around the globe. As a result of her research and social media, she reunited with Heymann family members in Berlin in 2019. Kira will provide a short history of Jews in Pomerania and background on the Heymann family’s origins in Posen, West Prussia, and Pomerania, today all part of Poland. She shares her research techniques using Polish archives, web sites, and books specific to Pomeranian research, as well as research tips for small Jewish communities in the German Empire.
Kira Dolcimascolo has actively researched her Jewish-German and Sicilian roots for the past 6 years; her knowledge of her ancestors from Germany/Prussia now extends to the 17th and 18th centuries. When not obsessively researching her family’s genealogy, she works as a school-based occupational therapist and assists her husband with their painting and decorating business. She has lived in Baltimore for 30 years.
The program is free for paid members and $5 for non-members (applied to membership fee when a visitor joins JGSMD) after their first meeting. Please check our web site at www.jgsmd.org for late updates and for the time, location, and program of future meetings.
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Translation help with Hebrew inscription on grave
#austria-czech
Michael Gordy
This is a collection of photos of an inscription on a single grave in Brno. The name of the deceased in Aron Frisch. I would be very grateful for a translation!
Thanks,
Michael Gordy
Takoma Park, MD, USA
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Re: Lithuanian Yizkor Book
gordberger@sympatico.ca
Does anyone know if the last name Birger or Birgeras from Panevesyz
appears in the Lithuania Yizkor Book?
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Re: Help translating town name on German manifest
By any chance could it be Lublin, in Poland (not Russia, as it might have then been under Russian rule)
Milton Goldsamt Silver Spring, MD
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