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Trip to Lvov (Lviv) UKRAINE on April 2020
#galicia
Daniel Horowitz
Hi all,
I am planning a trip to Lvov (Lviv) next April 2020 for the first time, and would like to hear any suggestions and comments about the city. I have some addresses >from ancestors that lived in the area, but I also would like to visit the archive to do some research, go to the cemetery looking for records or burials, visit synagogues and Jewish areas (if they are) and of course do a bit of regular tourism with my wife, mom and 2 kids (17 & 11). Any suggestions, comments or tips would be appreciated. If you have recommendations of locals that can help, much better. Feel free to answer me directly. Best regards Daniel Horowitz Daniel@microtarget.com MODERATOR NOTE: Please send privately any recommendations of paid guides and/or researchers.
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Trip to Lvov (Lviv) UKRAINE on April 2020
#galicia
Daniel Horowitz
Hi all,
I am planning a trip to Lvov (Lviv) next April 2020 for the first time, and would like to hear any suggestions and comments about the city. I have some addresses >from ancestors that lived in the area, but I also would like to visit the archive to do some research, go to the cemetery looking for records or burials, visit synagogues and Jewish areas (if they are) and of course do a bit of regular tourism with my wife, mom and 2 kids (17 & 11). Any suggestions, comments or tips would be appreciated. If you have recommendations of locals that can help, much better. Feel free to answer me directly. Best regards Daniel Horowitz Daniel@microtarget.com MODERATOR NOTE: Please send privately any recommendations of paid guides and/or researchers.
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Re: Searching for relatives
Richard Gross
I'm researching my husband's family from Lviv,Galicia. The earliest ancestor we have is Hersh Gross. One of the family, Samuel Gross who married Jessie Sloman in Leeds, UK, went to Brooklyn soon after the wedding where they raised three sons and a daughter. I wonder whether your Brooklyn family and our Brooklyn family were connected in any way.
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VORZIMER not VORIZMER
Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
CORRECTION OF TYPO
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Re: Help Stop USCIS Genealogy Program Fee Hikes
David Lewin
As I see it,
RecordsNotRevenue.com is
directed at US citizen. This is an International
problem, not an American one.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Please will you make a Petition place for all researchers to use David Lewin London
At 14:16 20/11/2019, Renée K. Carl wrote:
Building off of Jan Meisels Allen's 15 Nov post ( https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main/message/1150), I have more information to share on the outrageous proposal by USCIS Genealogy Program to raise the cost of accessing documents by more than 400%. An ad hoc group of genealogists, historians, and records access advocates have compiled a summary of the issues, information on the USCIS Genealogy program, and 3 easy steps you can take to help stop this fee hike.
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Re: Relationship question
Betty is NOT the step mother of Edgar. For this to be true, she would have to be currently married to Allen.
Good question.
Happy Thanksgiving to all
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From: JoRose <JoRose@...> To: main <main@...> Sent: Thu, Nov 21, 2019 7:45 pm Subject: [JewishGen.org] Relationship question Allen and Betty marry and have a son--Charles.
They divorce. Allen and Daisy marry and have a son--Edgar. [Have you noticed that the names are in alphabetical order, for clarity.] Facts: Allen is the father of Charles and Edgar. Daisy is the step-mother of Charles and the mother of Edgar. Betty is the mother of Charles. Is Betty the step-mother of Edgar? Why or why not? Thanks in advance for your opinion.
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Re: Jewish Gravestones Used as Cobblestones in Prague to be Returned to Old Jewish Cemetery #Czech Republic
Joan A. Baronberg
I read this over three times to ensure there wasn’t a typo in the date. It is shocking to think that in the 1980s, Jewish cemetery stones were used for paving secular streets.
"Evidently the pieces were removed from the 19th century cemetery for street building in the late 1980s."
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Relationship question
Josephine Rosenblum
Allen and Betty marry and have a son--Charles.
They divorce. Allen and Daisy marry and have a son--Edgar. [Have you noticed that the names are in alphabetical order, for clarity.] Facts: Allen is the father of Charles and Edgar. Daisy is the step-mother of Charles and the mother of Edgar. Betty is the mother of Charles. Is Betty the step-mother of Edgar? Why or why not? Thanks in advance for your opinion.
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Re: Help Stop USCIS Genealogy Program Fee Hikes
jbonline1111@...
Bob Bloomberg, you are comparing apples and oranges. You, like the rest of us, can see SIG results, just not the latest ones if you choose not to contribute or cannot contribute. Even with a volunteer organization, there are always costs associated with any initiative. I've been on the boards of several volunteer groups. You'd be surprised what it costs to maintain them, even when volunteers do most of the work.
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Those Who Were There: Voices From the Holocaust Podcast from Yale University's Fortunoff Video Archive of Holocaust Testimonies # Holocaust
Jan Meisels Allen
Those Who Were There: Voices from the Holocaust is a new podcast dedicated to sharing the history of the Holocaust through the first-hand testimonies of survivors and witnesses. It draws on recorded interviews from Yale University’s Fortunoff Video Archive for Holocaust Testimonies (http://fortunoff.library.yale.edu/podcasts/), which comprises the oral histories of over 4,000 people. The first six episodes of the inaugural ten episode season are available on Apple Podcasts, google Play and Stricher and you can follow the podcast on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/thosewhowerethere/)and Twitter
Narrated by Eleanor Reissa, actress and Yiddish theater director, and produced with historical oversight by Professor Samuel Kassow,
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Re: Deportations from France
#france
#holocaust
Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Abby Pariser asked : In Lyon, France, the Museum of the Resistance, has huge book listing the 71,000+ Jews deported from Lyon in World War II. I found 5 of my Pariser family that I had no idea about before this. Are there other French cities with similar books listing the Jews, the "Juifs," deported to the camps?
There were about 6,000 Jews deported from Lyon and its prefectoral area during World War II, not 71,000. Altogether, from the entire France were deported around 76,000 Jews, and, counting those who died in internment camps in France and those who were executed in France, this amounts to around 79,000 persons with about 3950 survivors in 1945.
Regarding the specific question, a Memorial Book to the Jews deported from France was first published in 1978 by Serge Klarsfeld. The latest printed version of this Memorial is from 2012. Since then, I maintain a free, searchable version of this Memorial online, at https://stevemorse.org/france including corrections and additions. With this tool, it is possible to get the lists of the deportees who were born in a specific town or region, or those whose last address was in a specific town or departement, those who were sent to a given internment camp in France on their way to the concentration and extermination camps, or any combination between these criteria.
Regarding Lyon, a Memorial to these Jews deported from Lyon and around is about to be erected at one of the Jewish cemeteries of Lyon.
Jean-Pierre Stroweis Jerusalem
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Viewmate Polish translation - Barbasch
#galicia
Milton Koch
I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation.
I would like a translation of the paragraph at the bottom of the page of the marriage of Ryfka Barbasz and Mendel Wolf. It is on ViewMate at the following address... http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM75936 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. Milton Koch BARBASCH - Pidvolochysk
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Viewmate Polish translation - Barbasch
#galicia
Milton Koch
I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation.
I would like a translation of the paragraph at the bottom of the page of the marriage of Ryfka Barbasz and Mendel Wolf. It is on ViewMate at the following address... http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM75936 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. Milton Koch BARBASCH - Pidvolochysk
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National Archives Social Security Numident Files Database Has Extractions from Some SS-5 Forms # United States #Archives #Social Security
Jan Meisels Allen
The U.S. National Archives Online Social Security Numident Files Database (1936-2007) includes some Application SS-5 files. These files have information about the person on the form from when they applied for a Social Security Card which is the SS-5 form. Note: not all data will be on each Numident file. Many of the Numident SS-5 files contains: Name, Social Security number, date and place of birth, names of parents, other last name
The information from the National Archives Numident database is free. Go to: https://aad.archives.gov/aad/series-description.jsp?s=5057&cat=all&bc=sl If you need to order the SS- form from the Social Security administration there is a fee. There is information on this in the article from Genealogy Roots see below.
Numident is the numerical identification system in the Social Security’s Administration’s computer database file of an abstract of the information contained in an application for a U.S. Social Security number (Form SS-5). This the definition from Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numident
Genealogy Roots Blog wrote about this on November 6, 2019, See: https://genrootsblog.blogspot.com/2019/11/nara-online-social-security-numident-ss-5-forms.html
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Re: Meaning of the Hungarian Term Kultusz Elöljáro
tom
it means "ritual leader", most likely not a rabbi or
hazzan.
....... tom klein, toronto
ps. google translate is, at best, unreliable. it's not very
good for quaint 19th century phrases.
Amit N wrote:
the Hungarian sphere acted, would be able to explain some more.
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More on USCIS Proposes Fee Increases for Genealogy Records # United States # Records Access
Jan Meisels Allen
On November 15, I posted to this forum about the proposed fee increase by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) for genealogical files. USCIS proposes a raise in its two Genealogy Program fees from $65 to $240 and $385 and possibly more if you require paper copies. These are a 269 percent and 492 percent change respectively (if I did my math correctly). While I wrote only about the genealogy fee increase in the 92 page proposed rule there are other immigration fees being increased.
A coalition of genealogists, historians and records access advocates have created a portal about this with suggestions. Please see: https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/.
This is an uphill battle and only with thousands of comments submitted will we have a chance to change these proposed fees.
Please read the rule and submit your comments before December 16 the deadline. The coalition also suggests you copy your comments to your U.S. Representative and U.S. Senators. To contact your US Senator go to: https://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm?OrderBy=state&Sort=ASC For your US Representative go to https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative There are finding aides if you don’t know who your elected officials are.
To read the proposed rule see: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2019-11-14/pdf/2019-24366.pdf The Genealogy section is Section N which starts on page 62315-62316. See Section 103.40 for Genealogical Research Requests on page 62359. There are fees with DACA renewals with and without ICE transfers and I do not know why there are genealogy requests tied to DACA renewal fees (page 62329, 62331).
This is a 92 page proposed rule the remainder does not affect genealogy.
•Federal eRulemaking Portal: http:// www.regulations.gov •By Mail: Samantha Deshommes, Chief, Regulatory Coordination Division, Office of Policy and Strategy, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, Department of Homeland Security, 20 Massachusetts Avenue NW, Mailstop #2140, Washington, DC 20529–2140. No hand delivered or couriered comments will be accepted. Nor will they accept anything on digital medial storage devices such as CDs/DVDs or USB drives.
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Re: Meaning of the Hungarian Term Kultusz Eloljaro
#hungary
smartlines@...
I am not sure of the proper English term, but he is a sort of "lay =
elder", a leader of the Jewish Community. Unlike the rabbi who is a spiritual = leader, the role of the elders is to manage and control all kinds of social and financial matters, as well as to represent the Community externally. Regards Andras Hirschler 1. Meaning of the Hungarian Term Kultusz Eloljaro ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Meaning of the Hungarian Term Kultusz Eloljaro From: amitna87@gmail.com Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 07:32:55 +0200 X-Message-Number: 1 Dear all, While trying to decipher an Hungarian book about the Jewish community in Sombor, I have stumbled upon the term mentioned above. Using Google Translate and the help of some Hungarian speakers, I have managed to understand that "Eloljaro" means someone who's in charge of something, but I couldn't quite decipher the full meaning of the full term. Perhaps someone here with some knowledge of how Jewish communities in the Hungarian sphere acted, would be able to explain some more. Thanks, Amit Naor Israel
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Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Meaning of the Hungarian Term Kultusz Eloljaro
#hungary
smartlines@...
I am not sure of the proper English term, but he is a sort of "lay =
elder", a leader of the Jewish Community. Unlike the rabbi who is a spiritual = leader, the role of the elders is to manage and control all kinds of social and financial matters, as well as to represent the Community externally. Regards Andras Hirschler 1. Meaning of the Hungarian Term Kultusz Eloljaro ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Meaning of the Hungarian Term Kultusz Eloljaro From: amitna87@gmail.com Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 07:32:55 +0200 X-Message-Number: 1 Dear all, While trying to decipher an Hungarian book about the Jewish community in Sombor, I have stumbled upon the term mentioned above. Using Google Translate and the help of some Hungarian speakers, I have managed to understand that "Eloljaro" means someone who's in charge of something, but I couldn't quite decipher the full meaning of the full term. Perhaps someone here with some knowledge of how Jewish communities in the Hungarian sphere acted, would be able to explain some more. Thanks, Amit Naor Israel
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Searching for BORKUM family
#southafrica
I would like to make contact with Ivor (or perhaps Ivan) BORKUM and his
sister Ilana BERKOWITZ, son and daughter of Phillip and Janie BORKUM of Johannesburg. I will be grateful if one of the members of this forum can put me in contact with one or both of them. Thanks, Jules Feldman Kibbutz Yizreel *** Please respond privately if providing contact information -- Moderator
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Searching for BORKUM family
#southafrica
I would like to make contact with Ivor (or perhaps Ivan) BORKUM and his
sister Ilana BERKOWITZ, son and daughter of Phillip and Janie BORKUM of Johannesburg. I will be grateful if one of the members of this forum can put me in contact with one or both of them. Thanks, Jules Feldman Kibbutz Yizreel *** Please respond privately if providing contact information -- Moderator
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