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Two brothers listed as one person
#latvia
Adam Katzeff <adam.katzeff@...>
Dear all,
Harold Rhode wrote: In records >from northern Lithuania and southern Latvia for both myIn a 1866 additional revision list for Papile, Siauliai district (Popelyany, Shavli uyezd) my great great grandfather Iosel Leybovich Katsev is listed together with his brother, Ber Leybovich Katsev, as one person, Iosel Ber Leybovich Katsev. The person living in Papile in 1866 was Ber Katsev and it's his wife Mire and two daughters Gene Dveyre and Taube that are listed as family on the list. My great great grandfather Iosel had probably (illegally?) moved northwards to todays Estonia (Tallinn or Parnu). Also Ber had lived further to the north in Cesis, Latvia (Wenden, Lifland guberniya) in the 1840's and 50's but was probably forced to move back to Lithuania. To make it possible for his brother to stay in Estonia Ber probably covered up for him by listing the two of them as one person. Also Ber's oldest son Iosel Bereliovich Katsev covered up for his younger brother, Ariye Bereliovich Katsev (who lived in Cesis) in the 1869 additional revision list for Papile by listing himself as Iosel Ariye Bereliovich Katsev. So, I definitely think this was a common practice! Best regards, Adam Katzeff, Malmoe, Sweden adam.katzeff@... Researching: GOLDBERG: Papile, Lithuania; Cesis, Latvia; Tallinn, Estonia; Glasgow, Scotland; Sweden; Denmark; PA+WI, USA. KATSEV/KATZEFF/KATZOFF/KACEV: Papile, Lithuania; Cesis+Riga, Latvia; Pärnu+Tallinn, Estonia; Glasgow, Scotland; Sweden; Denmark; MA+GA+NY+CA, USA. NEMCHENOK/NEMCHENKO: Yanovichi+Surazh+Velizh+Vitebsk, Belarus; St. Petersburg, Russia; Paris, France; Sweden; Denmark; NY, USA.
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Latvia SIG #Latvia Two brothers listed as one person
#latvia
Adam Katzeff <adam.katzeff@...>
Dear all,
Harold Rhode wrote: In records >from northern Lithuania and southern Latvia for both myIn a 1866 additional revision list for Papile, Siauliai district (Popelyany, Shavli uyezd) my great great grandfather Iosel Leybovich Katsev is listed together with his brother, Ber Leybovich Katsev, as one person, Iosel Ber Leybovich Katsev. The person living in Papile in 1866 was Ber Katsev and it's his wife Mire and two daughters Gene Dveyre and Taube that are listed as family on the list. My great great grandfather Iosel had probably (illegally?) moved northwards to todays Estonia (Tallinn or Parnu). Also Ber had lived further to the north in Cesis, Latvia (Wenden, Lifland guberniya) in the 1840's and 50's but was probably forced to move back to Lithuania. To make it possible for his brother to stay in Estonia Ber probably covered up for him by listing the two of them as one person. Also Ber's oldest son Iosel Bereliovich Katsev covered up for his younger brother, Ariye Bereliovich Katsev (who lived in Cesis) in the 1869 additional revision list for Papile by listing himself as Iosel Ariye Bereliovich Katsev. So, I definitely think this was a common practice! Best regards, Adam Katzeff, Malmoe, Sweden adam.katzeff@... Researching: GOLDBERG: Papile, Lithuania; Cesis, Latvia; Tallinn, Estonia; Glasgow, Scotland; Sweden; Denmark; PA+WI, USA. KATSEV/KATZEFF/KATZOFF/KACEV: Papile, Lithuania; Cesis+Riga, Latvia; Pärnu+Tallinn, Estonia; Glasgow, Scotland; Sweden; Denmark; MA+GA+NY+CA, USA. NEMCHENOK/NEMCHENKO: Yanovichi+Surazh+Velizh+Vitebsk, Belarus; St. Petersburg, Russia; Paris, France; Sweden; Denmark; NY, USA.
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Turov
#belarus
JHRG of Belarus <belshtetl@...>
Dear All,
On June, 26 the members of Jewish Heritage Research Group in Belarus is going to the town of Turov to research objects of Jewish heritage in this town. If someone is interested in the history of Jews of this town, please, contact us. Our address is belshtetl@.... Yuri Dorn Coordinator of Jewish Heritage Research Group in Belarus
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Turov
#belarus
JHRG of Belarus <belshtetl@...>
Dear All,
On June, 26 the members of Jewish Heritage Research Group in Belarus is going to the town of Turov to research objects of Jewish heritage in this town. If someone is interested in the history of Jews of this town, please, contact us. Our address is belshtetl@.... Yuri Dorn Coordinator of Jewish Heritage Research Group in Belarus
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DIAMOND and FASS and KARP
#general
Victor Shaines <vaesny@...>
I am looking for relatives of DIAMONDs and FASS's and KARP's
as shown by the family trees below. There is a cross marriage of Fass's and Diamond's. My wife is the granddaughter of Regina Faber, nee Fass. Does anyone know these names? Please advise personally to vaesny@.... Thank you. Vic Shaines See below..... Descendants of Original Diamond 1 Original Diamond 2 Sarah Diamond b: Abt. 1868 in Austria .... +Wolf Meyer Fass ... 3 Regina Fass b: Abt. June 10, 1890 in Austria, d: April 06, 1946 ....... +Harry Faber b: June 16, 1889 in Galicia ... 3 Mary Fass b: Abt. 1891 in Austria, Come to US in 1905? or 1907? d: ....... +Isadore Schatzkamer b: April 04, 1888 ... 3 Gertie Fass b: May 22, 1897 ....... +Solomon Fruchthandler b: October 25, 1895 2 Sam Diamond 2 Minnie Diamond b: Abt. 1860 in Austria, .... +Philip Karp ... 3 Sam Karp b: Abt. 1884 in Austria ... 3 Bella Karp b: Abt. 1890 in Austria ....... +David-James Fass b: Abt. 1885 in Austria ,Mother: Rosie Salzman ... 3 Rebeca/Rose Karp b: February 25, 1900 in NY Descendants of Original Fass 1 Original Fass 2 Wolf Meyer Fass .... +Sarah Diamond b: Abt. 1868 in Austria ... 3 Regina Fass b: Abt. June 10, 1890 in Austria, ....... +Harry Faber b: June 16, 1889 in Galicia ... 3 Mary Fass b: Abt. 1891 in Austria ....... +Isadore Schatzkamer b: April 04, 1888 ... 3 Gertie Fass b: May 22, 1897 ....... +Solomon Fruchthandler b: October 25, 1895 2 Isaac Fass b: ... 3 David-James Fass b: Abt. 1885 in Austria ....... +Bella Karp b: Abt. 1890 in Austria m: June 22, 1910 in NYC ...... 4 Tina-Lina Fass b: Abt. 1912 in New Jersey ...... 4 Philip Fass b: Abt. 1913 in New Jersey ...... 4 Lillian Fass b: Abt. 1916 in New Jersey
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen DIAMOND and FASS and KARP
#general
Victor Shaines <vaesny@...>
I am looking for relatives of DIAMONDs and FASS's and KARP's
as shown by the family trees below. There is a cross marriage of Fass's and Diamond's. My wife is the granddaughter of Regina Faber, nee Fass. Does anyone know these names? Please advise personally to vaesny@.... Thank you. Vic Shaines See below..... Descendants of Original Diamond 1 Original Diamond 2 Sarah Diamond b: Abt. 1868 in Austria .... +Wolf Meyer Fass ... 3 Regina Fass b: Abt. June 10, 1890 in Austria, d: April 06, 1946 ....... +Harry Faber b: June 16, 1889 in Galicia ... 3 Mary Fass b: Abt. 1891 in Austria, Come to US in 1905? or 1907? d: ....... +Isadore Schatzkamer b: April 04, 1888 ... 3 Gertie Fass b: May 22, 1897 ....... +Solomon Fruchthandler b: October 25, 1895 2 Sam Diamond 2 Minnie Diamond b: Abt. 1860 in Austria, .... +Philip Karp ... 3 Sam Karp b: Abt. 1884 in Austria ... 3 Bella Karp b: Abt. 1890 in Austria ....... +David-James Fass b: Abt. 1885 in Austria ,Mother: Rosie Salzman ... 3 Rebeca/Rose Karp b: February 25, 1900 in NY Descendants of Original Fass 1 Original Fass 2 Wolf Meyer Fass .... +Sarah Diamond b: Abt. 1868 in Austria ... 3 Regina Fass b: Abt. June 10, 1890 in Austria, ....... +Harry Faber b: June 16, 1889 in Galicia ... 3 Mary Fass b: Abt. 1891 in Austria ....... +Isadore Schatzkamer b: April 04, 1888 ... 3 Gertie Fass b: May 22, 1897 ....... +Solomon Fruchthandler b: October 25, 1895 2 Isaac Fass b: ... 3 David-James Fass b: Abt. 1885 in Austria ....... +Bella Karp b: Abt. 1890 in Austria m: June 22, 1910 in NYC ...... 4 Tina-Lina Fass b: Abt. 1912 in New Jersey ...... 4 Philip Fass b: Abt. 1913 in New Jersey ...... 4 Lillian Fass b: Abt. 1916 in New Jersey
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NYC Death Index Updated
#general
The Italian Genealogy Group has expanded their New York City Death
Index (http://www.italiangen.org/NYCDeath.stm) through 1939 (previously available through 1936). It's an invaluable resource (as it the IGG's NYC Groom Index). Elias Savada Bethesda MD
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NYC Death Index Updated
#general
The Italian Genealogy Group has expanded their New York City Death
Index (http://www.italiangen.org/NYCDeath.stm) through 1939 (previously available through 1936). It's an invaluable resource (as it the IGG's NYC Groom Index). Elias Savada Bethesda MD
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search for relatives WERNER and ADLER
#austria-czech
Keith Hatfield <hatfield.1@...>
I am searching for any information on my relatives. The only information
that I have to date is the following: My Grandparents were: Otto (born in Praha) and Ester WERNER (born ADLER in Lodz, Poland, circa late 1800's, early 1900's. They last address was: Praha My Maternal Great Grandparents were: (Ester's parents) Gerson, his wife Nach Natalia ADLER( born Lodz, Poland), circa 1870's. Their other children were two daughters Anna and Ida ADLER (born in Lodz, Poland). They also had a son, Mosek Sljama (Moritz?) ADLER (born in Lodz, Poland). He lived in Slany near Kladno and then they all moved to Prague. Otto's parent's names were; Max and Fanny WERNER, circa? Does anyone out their have any connections or knowledge about these people? Keith Hatfield hatfield.1@... MODERATOR NOTE: One of JewishGen's most heavily visited sites is the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF) and family connections are being made more and more frequently. If you have not already done so, please log onto www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the ENTER/MODIFY procedure enter and register all the surnames of interest to your family research. As you learn about more names and places of origin, they can always be added, but only **you** can keep your own listings up to date.
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech search for relatives WERNER and ADLER
#austria-czech
Keith Hatfield <hatfield.1@...>
I am searching for any information on my relatives. The only information
that I have to date is the following: My Grandparents were: Otto (born in Praha) and Ester WERNER (born ADLER in Lodz, Poland, circa late 1800's, early 1900's. They last address was: Praha My Maternal Great Grandparents were: (Ester's parents) Gerson, his wife Nach Natalia ADLER( born Lodz, Poland), circa 1870's. Their other children were two daughters Anna and Ida ADLER (born in Lodz, Poland). They also had a son, Mosek Sljama (Moritz?) ADLER (born in Lodz, Poland). He lived in Slany near Kladno and then they all moved to Prague. Otto's parent's names were; Max and Fanny WERNER, circa? Does anyone out their have any connections or knowledge about these people? Keith Hatfield hatfield.1@... MODERATOR NOTE: One of JewishGen's most heavily visited sites is the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF) and family connections are being made more and more frequently. If you have not already done so, please log onto www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the ENTER/MODIFY procedure enter and register all the surnames of interest to your family research. As you learn about more names and places of origin, they can always be added, but only **you** can keep your own listings up to date.
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Re: Naming a baby who dies at birth
#general
Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
YASO wrote:
Shalomname. My husband has a niece whose baby died *before* birth - estimated to have died a few weeks before she went into labor. The baby was named and buried. Leslie Weinberg
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Naming a baby who dies at birth
#general
Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
YASO wrote:
Shalomname. My husband has a niece whose baby died *before* birth - estimated to have died a few weeks before she went into labor. The baby was named and buried. Leslie Weinberg
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WAJSENBERG
#general
mark
Dear all Why we are searching our families in America or Canada? Because
those who moved there before WW2 could take with him documents pictures and those who stayed in Ukrain Russia Poland lost all the documents only stories "survived" Our American brothers must not be afraid of there relatives >from Eastern Europe or Israel We are not looking for fortune we are searching our roots Best wishes Wajsenberg Mark Israel mark306@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WAJSENBERG
#general
mark
Dear all Why we are searching our families in America or Canada? Because
those who moved there before WW2 could take with him documents pictures and those who stayed in Ukrain Russia Poland lost all the documents only stories "survived" Our American brothers must not be afraid of there relatives >from Eastern Europe or Israel We are not looking for fortune we are searching our roots Best wishes Wajsenberg Mark Israel mark306@...
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JGS of Montreal - Summer schedule
#general
Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
Dear members and friends of the JGS of Montreal,
The summer is now upon us. We wish everyone a happy, active and fulfilling summer! ~~ The next meeting of the JGS of Montreal will take place on August 29, 2005 (Monday) at 7:30pm in the Federation Building, Conference Room, 4th floor. The next session of the Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshop, will take place on Sunday, October 2, 2005, from 10am to 12 noon, in the Jewish Public Library,Greenberg Conference Room. Everyone welcome! -- For all information on our upcoming meetings & Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshops: JGS of Montreal Hotline - 24 hours a day - 514-484-0969 ~~ Merle Kastner JGS of Montreal, Programming merlek@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Montreal - Summer schedule
#general
Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
Dear members and friends of the JGS of Montreal,
The summer is now upon us. We wish everyone a happy, active and fulfilling summer! ~~ The next meeting of the JGS of Montreal will take place on August 29, 2005 (Monday) at 7:30pm in the Federation Building, Conference Room, 4th floor. The next session of the Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshop, will take place on Sunday, October 2, 2005, from 10am to 12 noon, in the Jewish Public Library,Greenberg Conference Room. Everyone welcome! -- For all information on our upcoming meetings & Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshops: JGS of Montreal Hotline - 24 hours a day - 514-484-0969 ~~ Merle Kastner JGS of Montreal, Programming merlek@...
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SCHAPIRO from Ekaterinoslav (and maybe Chernigov)
#ukraine
Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
I am researching the family of Meyer SCHAPIRO, born c1850 in Russia, who
reportedly owned or managed a tobacco plantation and was murdered in about 1887 as the result of a land or property dispute. His son Samuel's 1904 U.S. arrival record and his daughter Miro's 1906 record both list Ekaterinoslav as their last residence. However an earlier (1898) passenger manifest for Stiche SCHAPIRO, his older daughter, shows her last residence as something resembling "Denoshlin," which the next page of the manifest seems to indicate was in "Tschernigow" province. I'd appreciate some input >from Ukraine mavens on these questions: 1) I could not find a town called Denoshlin in detailed old maps of Chernigov guberrnia, in the JewishGen ShtetlSeeker, or in _Where Once We Walked_. One town that comes close is Domashlin (Domaslyn). Any other suggestions? 2) Domashlin is 45 miles northeast of the city of Chernigov. Based on the small number of hits for it on the Web and in paper sources, I assume that it was and is a small village. Any ideas on how I'd find out where its Jewish vital records were filed? In particular, I'm wondering if its births and deaths might have been recorded in one of the towns for which the Mormon Family History Library has Jewish records -- Berezna, Chernigov, Dmitrovka, Gorodnya, Konotop, Nezhin, Repki. 3) Has any one encountered examples of Jews involved in tobacco growing in Ukraine? If so, where? 4) Meyer reportedly was murdered in a land dispute. Any ideas for following up on this story (police records? newspapers?)? Thanks for your help. Renee Renee Stern Steinig Dix Hills (Long Island), NY RSteinig@...
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine SCHAPIRO from Ekaterinoslav (and maybe Chernigov)
#ukraine
Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
I am researching the family of Meyer SCHAPIRO, born c1850 in Russia, who
reportedly owned or managed a tobacco plantation and was murdered in about 1887 as the result of a land or property dispute. His son Samuel's 1904 U.S. arrival record and his daughter Miro's 1906 record both list Ekaterinoslav as their last residence. However an earlier (1898) passenger manifest for Stiche SCHAPIRO, his older daughter, shows her last residence as something resembling "Denoshlin," which the next page of the manifest seems to indicate was in "Tschernigow" province. I'd appreciate some input >from Ukraine mavens on these questions: 1) I could not find a town called Denoshlin in detailed old maps of Chernigov guberrnia, in the JewishGen ShtetlSeeker, or in _Where Once We Walked_. One town that comes close is Domashlin (Domaslyn). Any other suggestions? 2) Domashlin is 45 miles northeast of the city of Chernigov. Based on the small number of hits for it on the Web and in paper sources, I assume that it was and is a small village. Any ideas on how I'd find out where its Jewish vital records were filed? In particular, I'm wondering if its births and deaths might have been recorded in one of the towns for which the Mormon Family History Library has Jewish records -- Berezna, Chernigov, Dmitrovka, Gorodnya, Konotop, Nezhin, Repki. 3) Has any one encountered examples of Jews involved in tobacco growing in Ukraine? If so, where? 4) Meyer reportedly was murdered in a land dispute. Any ideas for following up on this story (police records? newspapers?)? Thanks for your help. Renee Renee Stern Steinig Dix Hills (Long Island), NY RSteinig@...
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Contacting Odessa State Archives?
#ukraine
Professor Michael Notis
Hello! I am new to the SIG and hope someone can help me. I have been
trying to contact the State Archives in Odessa with no luck. I have tried two different e-mail addresses with no response ans tried two different FAX numbers which dont seem to be operating. What IS the best way to make contact? Also, can someone recommend a professional service that would do individual document searches? I have seen some advertised (out of Odessa) but have no ability to judge their reliability. Sincerely, Michael Notis MODERATOR'S NOTE: RESPOND PRIVATELY REGARDING ANY PROFESSIONAL SERVICE OR RESEARCHER. THANK YOU.
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Contacting Odessa State Archives?
#ukraine
Professor Michael Notis
Hello! I am new to the SIG and hope someone can help me. I have been
trying to contact the State Archives in Odessa with no luck. I have tried two different e-mail addresses with no response ans tried two different FAX numbers which dont seem to be operating. What IS the best way to make contact? Also, can someone recommend a professional service that would do individual document searches? I have seen some advertised (out of Odessa) but have no ability to judge their reliability. Sincerely, Michael Notis MODERATOR'S NOTE: RESPOND PRIVATELY REGARDING ANY PROFESSIONAL SERVICE OR RESEARCHER. THANK YOU.
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