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Re: Re(3): Re: RE Accented Hungarian #hungary

Frank Valoczy
 

that's very nice, but please note:

1) not a *single one* of the codes listed displays correctly on a
macintosh. they range >from euro currency symbols to upside down
exclamation marks. the only two that are even close are "e" and "i", and
even they are capitals, instead of lower case, and the accents go the
wrong way (grave instead of acute). all these codes seem to be
windows-specific.
Yes, it is; it is part of the Windows encoding. However, I believe
character set encodings can be adjusted in any browser for the Mac, as
well. Windows character sets are, for European languages anyways, the most
common.

2) they are not completely correct for hungarian orthography. the use of
the tilde and circumflex (why not just one or the other?) is a kluge
because the double acute is not commonly available.
No, they are not, but even amongst Hungarian speakers this was the most
common method for writing Hungarian online (after simply not using
accented characters, since a speaker of Hungarian will recognise what's
needed there anyways). Nowadays, Windows Eastern European encoding is the
most commonly used. As for why o-tilde and u-circumflex, and not one or
the other for both... I don't know, but this is what became most common. I
haven't seen o-circumflex used for o-double acute since I started using
the internet in 1994.

3) it takes only a few minutes to get used to putting the accents after
the vowel. [A' E' I' O' O" O: U' U" U: a' e' i' o' o" o: u' u" u:] it is
both universal, and a lot easier to remember. and, i can absolutely
guarantee that it will display correctly on every system >from windows 3.1
to the latest blackberry.
This is true, but it's rather ugly. And really, it's no more difficult to
remember the alt-numbers, with a bit of use. I don't see a need to
introduce a separate system, when there is already a system accepted by
Hungarian speakers.

Frank Válóczy,
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Searching: Kronstein, Visnyovszki, Svejkovsky, Kutyer

Moderator: This discussion has strayed far >from the subject of Hungarian family research. Please continue off-list.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Re(3): Re: RE Accented Hungarian #hungary

Frank Valoczy
 

that's very nice, but please note:

1) not a *single one* of the codes listed displays correctly on a
macintosh. they range >from euro currency symbols to upside down
exclamation marks. the only two that are even close are "e" and "i", and
even they are capitals, instead of lower case, and the accents go the
wrong way (grave instead of acute). all these codes seem to be
windows-specific.
Yes, it is; it is part of the Windows encoding. However, I believe
character set encodings can be adjusted in any browser for the Mac, as
well. Windows character sets are, for European languages anyways, the most
common.

2) they are not completely correct for hungarian orthography. the use of
the tilde and circumflex (why not just one or the other?) is a kluge
because the double acute is not commonly available.
No, they are not, but even amongst Hungarian speakers this was the most
common method for writing Hungarian online (after simply not using
accented characters, since a speaker of Hungarian will recognise what's
needed there anyways). Nowadays, Windows Eastern European encoding is the
most commonly used. As for why o-tilde and u-circumflex, and not one or
the other for both... I don't know, but this is what became most common. I
haven't seen o-circumflex used for o-double acute since I started using
the internet in 1994.

3) it takes only a few minutes to get used to putting the accents after
the vowel. [A' E' I' O' O" O: U' U" U: a' e' i' o' o" o: u' u" u:] it is
both universal, and a lot easier to remember. and, i can absolutely
guarantee that it will display correctly on every system >from windows 3.1
to the latest blackberry.
This is true, but it's rather ugly. And really, it's no more difficult to
remember the alt-numbers, with a bit of use. I don't see a need to
introduce a separate system, when there is already a system accepted by
Hungarian speakers.

Frank Válóczy,
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Searching: Kronstein, Visnyovszki, Svejkovsky, Kutyer

Moderator: This discussion has strayed far >from the subject of Hungarian family research. Please continue off-list.


SHERESHEFSKY family of Grodno Province #belarus

richard casson
 

Wednesday 4 January 2006

I'm researching the Shereshefsky family.
In the past I have posted the following information:-

'Ygiel Shereshefsky married Mindell YELLIN. Mindell made it to the UK in the
1880s with her five children:Noach(Noah),Max(Marks),Esther and Golda where
they settled in Liverpool/Manchester and adopted the name BINNES. Ygiel was
said to have died in a pogrom. In the 1901 UK census Mindell (or Mindal was
51 years old). Family came >from Swisloch(Polish spelling) or
Sislevich(Yiddish spelling) in the province of Grodno as I've seen >from the
naturalisation papers of Noah and Max.

Recently I came across a Mayr Shereshefsky born in Grodo(don't know if town
or province) Russia. His father was Jacob Shereshefsky and his mother
Yellin. In 1907 in Manhattan,New York Mayr Shereshefsky married a Blume
MAZOR who had also been born in Grodno,Russia. Blume Mazor's parents were
Hirsch Mazor and Krupnik.

For me the Yellin connection is most interesting and I'm hoping someone can
throw some light on the matter.

Richard Casson
Manchester,UK
reply to:rickycasson@btinternet.com
MODERATOR NOTE: Don't forget the JewishGen Family Finder (www.jewishgen.org/jgff)
where you will find several others searching the same name. Also please capitalize
all surnames only.


Belarus SIG #Belarus SHERESHEFSKY family of Grodno Province #belarus

richard casson
 

Wednesday 4 January 2006

I'm researching the Shereshefsky family.
In the past I have posted the following information:-

'Ygiel Shereshefsky married Mindell YELLIN. Mindell made it to the UK in the
1880s with her five children:Noach(Noah),Max(Marks),Esther and Golda where
they settled in Liverpool/Manchester and adopted the name BINNES. Ygiel was
said to have died in a pogrom. In the 1901 UK census Mindell (or Mindal was
51 years old). Family came >from Swisloch(Polish spelling) or
Sislevich(Yiddish spelling) in the province of Grodno as I've seen >from the
naturalisation papers of Noah and Max.

Recently I came across a Mayr Shereshefsky born in Grodo(don't know if town
or province) Russia. His father was Jacob Shereshefsky and his mother
Yellin. In 1907 in Manhattan,New York Mayr Shereshefsky married a Blume
MAZOR who had also been born in Grodno,Russia. Blume Mazor's parents were
Hirsch Mazor and Krupnik.

For me the Yellin connection is most interesting and I'm hoping someone can
throw some light on the matter.

Richard Casson
Manchester,UK
reply to:rickycasson@btinternet.com
MODERATOR NOTE: Don't forget the JewishGen Family Finder (www.jewishgen.org/jgff)
where you will find several others searching the same name. Also please capitalize
all surnames only.


Photos and Registration in Polish? #poland

Tamar Amit <tamar.amit@...>
 

I had posted 3 documents on ViewMate and need your help:

ViewMate site (http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) in the To View
section - VM7324 or
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7324
Is an inscription on the back of a photo of my grandfather Joel and
his brother Baruch GEWIRCMAN

ViewMate site (http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) in the To View
section - VM7325 or
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7325
Is an inscription on the back of a photo of back of a photo of CYTRYN
and GEWERCMAN family photo

ViewMate site (http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) in the To View
section - VM7326 or
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7326
Is a (bad) photocopy of of marriage registration of Fischel GIWERCMAN
Beila BIRBOIM >from 1864 in Izbica Lubelski. I can send a better image
on request.


Please reply privately.
Thanks in Advance
Tamar Amit
ISRAEL


JRI Poland #Poland Photos and Registration in Polish? #poland

Tamar Amit <tamar.amit@...>
 

I had posted 3 documents on ViewMate and need your help:

ViewMate site (http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) in the To View
section - VM7324 or
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7324
Is an inscription on the back of a photo of my grandfather Joel and
his brother Baruch GEWIRCMAN

ViewMate site (http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) in the To View
section - VM7325 or
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7325
Is an inscription on the back of a photo of back of a photo of CYTRYN
and GEWERCMAN family photo

ViewMate site (http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) in the To View
section - VM7326 or
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7326
Is a (bad) photocopy of of marriage registration of Fischel GIWERCMAN
Beila BIRBOIM >from 1864 in Izbica Lubelski. I can send a better image
on request.


Please reply privately.
Thanks in Advance
Tamar Amit
ISRAEL


Ah-noos: The Definitive Word #general

hekenvin@...
 

If you are among those who like to know about the responses to the
queries on jewishgen, I provide this answer to the undoubtedly
tantalizing question I posted yesterday: what exactly was my
great-grandfather collecting when he went >from Skala Podol'ska
(Galicia) to Bessarabia? Years ago, elderly relatives had told me
that it was something called "ah-noos" (emphasis on the last syllable),
but they were unable to translate it into English.

I now have the definitive word >from someone who is native to the same
town as my family. He says, without hesitation, that my great-grandfather
was a merchant of "the raw material >from which flax seed oil was
manufactured in Skala." Ah -- a 28-year mystery has been solved. No
wonder my relatives were not able to translate "flax-seed" into English!

I have sent individual thank-yous to those who responded. I want to
thank Celia Male publically, as she sent several emails posing possible
answers, which amounted to a fascinating dissertation on the nut and oil
industries in early 20th-century Bessarabia and Galicia.

Helene Kenvin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ah-noos: The Definitive Word #general

hekenvin@...
 

If you are among those who like to know about the responses to the
queries on jewishgen, I provide this answer to the undoubtedly
tantalizing question I posted yesterday: what exactly was my
great-grandfather collecting when he went >from Skala Podol'ska
(Galicia) to Bessarabia? Years ago, elderly relatives had told me
that it was something called "ah-noos" (emphasis on the last syllable),
but they were unable to translate it into English.

I now have the definitive word >from someone who is native to the same
town as my family. He says, without hesitation, that my great-grandfather
was a merchant of "the raw material >from which flax seed oil was
manufactured in Skala." Ah -- a 28-year mystery has been solved. No
wonder my relatives were not able to translate "flax-seed" into English!

I have sent individual thank-yous to those who responded. I want to
thank Celia Male publically, as she sent several emails posing possible
answers, which amounted to a fascinating dissertation on the nut and oil
industries in early 20th-century Bessarabia and Galicia.

Helene Kenvin


Re: OXENHORN/GERMAN #general

ac <anitac47@...>
 

This may not be the case with your relativs but sometimes immigrants were
given a name to put down on the manifest that was not a relation at all. I
do believe there was a previous conversation some years ago about the large
amount of people going to a "relative" on Pitt St in Manhattan. The person
was given a fee, would show up at the docks (if needed).

Regards,
Anita Citron
Hicksville, NY
Searching: NADWORNY anywhere and everywhere


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: OXENHORN/GERMAN #general

ac <anitac47@...>
 

This may not be the case with your relativs but sometimes immigrants were
given a name to put down on the manifest that was not a relation at all. I
do believe there was a previous conversation some years ago about the large
amount of people going to a "relative" on Pitt St in Manhattan. The person
was given a fee, would show up at the docks (if needed).

Regards,
Anita Citron
Hicksville, NY
Searching: NADWORNY anywhere and everywhere


26th IAJGS Conference to present a PC Laboratory: A Step Up to Technology #general

Gloria Berkenstat Freund <gloria@...>
 

The 26th Conference of the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies will be offering a new approach to technology as part of today's
genealogical experience. The Conference, which takes place >from Sunday,
August 13th to Friday, August 18th at the New York Marriott Marquis, will
have a PC Laboratory.

The intention is that students will be taught a function and then will be
able to practice it. It is hoped that this will enable students to learn a
skill quicker and retain more. It's harder to learn Word or Excel or
researching Galicia on the internet >from a lecture. Stepping up to
technology requires hands-on experience, and a much smaller teacher to
student ratio than a lecture. The Laboratory will have 25 student PCs
attached to a server and the Instructor will have a PC with an overhead
display.

The Conference hosts, the Jewish Genealogical Society of New York, have
invested in a PC room with equipment, and a full time administrator.
Because we are keeping the classes small (25 maximum) and each student
will have a PC, we need to put in a reservation system and we need to
ensure a smooth transition >from class to class. There will be a full
PC track parallel to lecture tracks.

There will be four intensive 2-hour PC courses on Sunday:

10am Intro to PCs and Windows
Noon Genealogy on the Internet
2pm Intro to the Internet
4pm Using JewishGen's Databases and Search Capabilities

Pre-registration for these Sunday classes ($10 fee for each 2 hour sessions)
is required and can be made when registering for the Conference at
http://www.jgsny2006.org/registration.cfm .

Registration for the weekday classes ($5 fee for the 1+ hour sessions) will
take place at the conference in the registration area initially, then at the
classroom.

We will be announcing the full range of weekday classes shortly.

This is the first time a Conference has offered access to PC instruction.
Help us make this a success.

Please visit the Conference website at www.jgsny2006.org

Phyllis Kramer, Chair, PC Laboratory
2006 IAJGS Conference

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
2006 IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 26th IAJGS Conference to present a PC Laboratory: A Step Up to Technology #general

Gloria Berkenstat Freund <gloria@...>
 

The 26th Conference of the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies will be offering a new approach to technology as part of today's
genealogical experience. The Conference, which takes place >from Sunday,
August 13th to Friday, August 18th at the New York Marriott Marquis, will
have a PC Laboratory.

The intention is that students will be taught a function and then will be
able to practice it. It is hoped that this will enable students to learn a
skill quicker and retain more. It's harder to learn Word or Excel or
researching Galicia on the internet >from a lecture. Stepping up to
technology requires hands-on experience, and a much smaller teacher to
student ratio than a lecture. The Laboratory will have 25 student PCs
attached to a server and the Instructor will have a PC with an overhead
display.

The Conference hosts, the Jewish Genealogical Society of New York, have
invested in a PC room with equipment, and a full time administrator.
Because we are keeping the classes small (25 maximum) and each student
will have a PC, we need to put in a reservation system and we need to
ensure a smooth transition >from class to class. There will be a full
PC track parallel to lecture tracks.

There will be four intensive 2-hour PC courses on Sunday:

10am Intro to PCs and Windows
Noon Genealogy on the Internet
2pm Intro to the Internet
4pm Using JewishGen's Databases and Search Capabilities

Pre-registration for these Sunday classes ($10 fee for each 2 hour sessions)
is required and can be made when registering for the Conference at
http://www.jgsny2006.org/registration.cfm .

Registration for the weekday classes ($5 fee for the 1+ hour sessions) will
take place at the conference in the registration area initially, then at the
classroom.

We will be announcing the full range of weekday classes shortly.

This is the first time a Conference has offered access to PC instruction.
Help us make this a success.

Please visit the Conference website at www.jgsny2006.org

Phyllis Kramer, Chair, PC Laboratory
2006 IAJGS Conference

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
2006 IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair


Who is Luba SENDLER, Holon (Israel, 1947) #general

Vangheluwe Daniel <vangheluwe.smietan@...>
 

Thank yo the genner who translated the testimony of my cousin (SMIETAN
family). Now, I am searching to him or his family. The testimony was
written by Sendler Luba address Holon, Shikon Yisai Kohen 134 ,cousin of
Smetana Motel, the date is Holon 4 February 1947 .

It is a long time ago.Is it already a SENDLER family in Holon near Tel Aviv?
in the same adress? Someone remember of Luba? Is it a way to search his
childrens? Because I dont speak hebrew, I need your help.

Daniel Vangheluwe
France


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Who is Luba SENDLER, Holon (Israel, 1947) #general

Vangheluwe Daniel <vangheluwe.smietan@...>
 

Thank yo the genner who translated the testimony of my cousin (SMIETAN
family). Now, I am searching to him or his family. The testimony was
written by Sendler Luba address Holon, Shikon Yisai Kohen 134 ,cousin of
Smetana Motel, the date is Holon 4 February 1947 .

It is a long time ago.Is it already a SENDLER family in Holon near Tel Aviv?
in the same adress? Someone remember of Luba? Is it a way to search his
childrens? Because I dont speak hebrew, I need your help.

Daniel Vangheluwe
France


Re: Voralberg, Austria #austria-czech

Wolf-Erich Eckstein <w.eckstein@...>
 

It depends what you are looking for:

Jewish Community for the provinces of Tyrol and Vorarlberg
http://www.ikg-innsbruck.at/home_en.php

Also helpfull will be:
http://www.jm-hohenems.at/
Jüdisches Museum Hohenems
Villa Heimann-Rosenthal
Schweizer Strasse 5, A-6845 Hohenems
Tel. 0043 (0)5576 73989-0
office@jm-hohenems.at

Wolf-Erich Eckstein
Vienna/AUSTRIA


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Voralberg, Austria #austria-czech

Wolf-Erich Eckstein <w.eckstein@...>
 

It depends what you are looking for:

Jewish Community for the provinces of Tyrol and Vorarlberg
http://www.ikg-innsbruck.at/home_en.php

Also helpfull will be:
http://www.jm-hohenems.at/
Jüdisches Museum Hohenems
Villa Heimann-Rosenthal
Schweizer Strasse 5, A-6845 Hohenems
Tel. 0043 (0)5576 73989-0
office@jm-hohenems.at

Wolf-Erich Eckstein
Vienna/AUSTRIA


Re: Voralberg, Austria #austria-czech

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

Try http://www.ikg-innsbruck.at/

Randol Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Voralberg, Austria #austria-czech

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

Try http://www.ikg-innsbruck.at/

Randol Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA


Re: Voralberg, Austria #austria-czech

Heinz Hadwig <Heinz.Hadwig@...>
 

Hello!

Look this Austrian webside:
http://www.gfs-austria.org/index.php

Regards, Heinz (Hadwig)
----------------
Dear Listers,

I'm trying to find the IKG center in Voralberg. Can
someone help me?

Thank you very much.

Dora M. Donis-Kestler
ddonis@sbcglobal.net
USA


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Voralberg, Austria #austria-czech

Heinz Hadwig <Heinz.Hadwig@...>
 

Hello!

Look this Austrian webside:
http://www.gfs-austria.org/index.php

Regards, Heinz (Hadwig)
----------------
Dear Listers,

I'm trying to find the IKG center in Voralberg. Can
someone help me?

Thank you very much.

Dora M. Donis-Kestler
ddonis@sbcglobal.net
USA