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Re: Emigration to U.S. after WWI start #general

Nick <tulse04-news1@...>
 

<Ira.Leibowitz@...> wrote in message

My grandmother's ship (the Noordam) left Rotterdam for New York City on
August 15, 1914. I do not know how or when she arrived in Rotterdam,
but presumably she had left her home near Mstislavl, in Mogilev gubernia
in the eastern part of the Pale, weeks earlier -- perhaps in the early
summer of 1914. Given that the first declarations of war and the first
troop movements took place more than two weeks prior to the start of her
voyage, how was my grandmother able to travel westward across Europe to
Rotterdam, and how was the ship able to leave port and sail across the
Atlantic under wartime conditions?
The Netherlands was neutral in WWI.

According to http://www.zum.de/whkmla/region/lowcountries/neth191418.html
there was a corridor which went round the north of the British Isles which
was reserved for Dutch commercial shipping.

I don't know what the position of non-Dutch nationals would have been on
such ships - as far as the German navy was concerned.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany),
THALHEIMER (Mainbernheim, Germany), KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and
Kleinerdlingen,Germany), LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Russia/Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?)
(Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Russia/Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Emigration to U.S. after WWI start #general

Nick <tulse04-news1@...>
 

<Ira.Leibowitz@...> wrote in message

My grandmother's ship (the Noordam) left Rotterdam for New York City on
August 15, 1914. I do not know how or when she arrived in Rotterdam,
but presumably she had left her home near Mstislavl, in Mogilev gubernia
in the eastern part of the Pale, weeks earlier -- perhaps in the early
summer of 1914. Given that the first declarations of war and the first
troop movements took place more than two weeks prior to the start of her
voyage, how was my grandmother able to travel westward across Europe to
Rotterdam, and how was the ship able to leave port and sail across the
Atlantic under wartime conditions?
The Netherlands was neutral in WWI.

According to http://www.zum.de/whkmla/region/lowcountries/neth191418.html
there was a corridor which went round the north of the British Isles which
was reserved for Dutch commercial shipping.

I don't know what the position of non-Dutch nationals would have been on
such ships - as far as the German navy was concerned.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany),
THALHEIMER (Mainbernheim, Germany), KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and
Kleinerdlingen,Germany), LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Russia/Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?)
(Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Russia/Belarus)


HALPERIN family tree #general

yoni ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

In my research on my ancestors (Rabbis >from Kremenetz during the 18th cent)
I've come across the family name HALPERIN several times, although not
directly associated to my family but surrounding events connected with them.

Being that my Kremenetz ancestors do not have a family name-that I know of-
I'm wondering if they could be HALPERINs?

Is there a HALPERIN family association or geneological researcher that I
could contact to further this direction?

I know that we have 20th century connections to various HALPERINs but thats
not my present interest.

Thank you and Shabbat Shalom

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen HALPERIN family tree #general

yoni ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

In my research on my ancestors (Rabbis >from Kremenetz during the 18th cent)
I've come across the family name HALPERIN several times, although not
directly associated to my family but surrounding events connected with them.

Being that my Kremenetz ancestors do not have a family name-that I know of-
I'm wondering if they could be HALPERINs?

Is there a HALPERIN family association or geneological researcher that I
could contact to further this direction?

I know that we have 20th century connections to various HALPERINs but thats
not my present interest.

Thank you and Shabbat Shalom

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


Last 7 words from Belz necrology list to translate: Heb/Yid #general

roe kard
 

Last 7 words >from Belz necrology list to translate: Heb/Yid

Now we are down to 7!!! My deepest thanks to all who have already
tried to help me with the last few words needing translation. I have
posted the originals >from the book, within their total sentence
listing, and would be so-o-o-o grateful if you have the capacity to
translate >from Hebrew and/or Yiddish if you would take one more look
so that, please G!d, we can finally get this list posted!!

(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) in the To View section - as file
- VM9345

B'shalom, Karen Roekard AKA Gitel Chaye Ita Rosenfeld Rokart


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Last 7 words from Belz necrology list to translate: Heb/Yid #general

roe kard
 

Last 7 words >from Belz necrology list to translate: Heb/Yid

Now we are down to 7!!! My deepest thanks to all who have already
tried to help me with the last few words needing translation. I have
posted the originals >from the book, within their total sentence
listing, and would be so-o-o-o grateful if you have the capacity to
translate >from Hebrew and/or Yiddish if you would take one more look
so that, please G!d, we can finally get this list posted!!

(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) in the To View section - as file
- VM9345

B'shalom, Karen Roekard AKA Gitel Chaye Ita Rosenfeld Rokart


Gedalya of Linitz' Family , Pinchas of Koretz #general

Yaron Pedhazur
 

Dear fellow researchers,

I am looking for info regarding Gedalya of Linitz
ancestry.

The only documented lineage I have found states that
he ws the son of R. Yitzchak of Polnea, son of Shmuel,
son of Eliahu, son of Yitzchak ABD Lutzk, son in law
of the MaHrSHA.

"Mateh Aharon" mentions another detail, which I
haven't seen in any other place (and therefore I doubt
it's accuracy): yitchak, father of Gedalya, was
son-in-law of Moshe, son of Pinchas Shapira of Koretz.


Any infor will be most welcomed!

Please repy also privately to: yarpd@...

Thanks in advance,
Yaron Pedhazur
Tel-Aviv, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gedalya of Linitz' Family , Pinchas of Koretz #general

Yaron Pedhazur
 

Dear fellow researchers,

I am looking for info regarding Gedalya of Linitz
ancestry.

The only documented lineage I have found states that
he ws the son of R. Yitzchak of Polnea, son of Shmuel,
son of Eliahu, son of Yitzchak ABD Lutzk, son in law
of the MaHrSHA.

"Mateh Aharon" mentions another detail, which I
haven't seen in any other place (and therefore I doubt
it's accuracy): yitchak, father of Gedalya, was
son-in-law of Moshe, son of Pinchas Shapira of Koretz.


Any infor will be most welcomed!

Please repy also privately to: yarpd@...

Thanks in advance,
Yaron Pedhazur
Tel-Aviv, Israel


Re: Romanian names #romania

Ariel Parkansky
 

A sister of my great-grandfather was called also Jennie, in
her Romanian passport her name appeared as Seindlea

Ariel PARKANSKY
(Buenos Aires, Argentina / Paris, France)
http://www.thefamilytree.com.ar

Kishinev, Tighina: PARKANSKY, LECHNER
Kishinev, Calarasi: DUBIN, CHERNIAVSKY, FISMAN
Odessa: VAISBEN, HOCHMANN, SCHARTZ
Kiev, Odessa, Neporotovo: ERLICHMAN, AISENGART
Kiliya: SCHWARZBERG
Bessarabia, Petrograd, Odessa: GLASS, KERSCHNER, ZEIGNER
Chichelnik: ZUKERMAN, LASHOCK
Podolsky: SITCOF, LERMAN

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Subject: Romanian names - Please help!

From: lsaionz@...

My grandmother immigrated to the US in 1907 after a
pogram, I believe from
Piatra-Neamt or a nearby village. Her name in English was
"Jennie"
(SUFFRIN), which in Yiddush would have been something
like Shaindel, but I
never knew her to use any name but Jennie. Can anyone
tell me what the
equivalent first name might have been in Rumanian? Is
there any common
first name in Romanian that sounds like "Jennie"? Is
something like "Janek"
a possibility? Or is that a boy's name?

I would appreciate any suggestions as I have been unable
to find any
immigration records for her so far and I have no idea
what other names to
look for.


Romania SIG #Romania Re: Romanian names #romania

Ariel Parkansky
 

A sister of my great-grandfather was called also Jennie, in
her Romanian passport her name appeared as Seindlea

Ariel PARKANSKY
(Buenos Aires, Argentina / Paris, France)
http://www.thefamilytree.com.ar

Kishinev, Tighina: PARKANSKY, LECHNER
Kishinev, Calarasi: DUBIN, CHERNIAVSKY, FISMAN
Odessa: VAISBEN, HOCHMANN, SCHARTZ
Kiev, Odessa, Neporotovo: ERLICHMAN, AISENGART
Kiliya: SCHWARZBERG
Bessarabia, Petrograd, Odessa: GLASS, KERSCHNER, ZEIGNER
Chichelnik: ZUKERMAN, LASHOCK
Podolsky: SITCOF, LERMAN

-----Original Message-----


Subject: Romanian names - Please help!

From: lsaionz@...

My grandmother immigrated to the US in 1907 after a
pogram, I believe from
Piatra-Neamt or a nearby village. Her name in English was
"Jennie"
(SUFFRIN), which in Yiddush would have been something
like Shaindel, but I
never knew her to use any name but Jennie. Can anyone
tell me what the
equivalent first name might have been in Rumanian? Is
there any common
first name in Romanian that sounds like "Jennie"? Is
something like "Janek"
a possibility? Or is that a boy's name?

I would appreciate any suggestions as I have been unable
to find any
immigration records for her so far and I have no idea
what other names to
look for.


Re: Gedalya of Linitz's Family #rabbinic

Perets Mett <p.mett@...>
 

Earlier today, Yaron Pedhazur <yarpd@...> wrote:

"Mateh Aharon" mentions another detail, which I haven't seen in any
other place (and therefore I doubt it's accuracy): Yitzchak, father
of Gedalya, was son-in-law of Moshe, son of Pinchas SHAPIRA of
Koretz.
Father-in-law, not son-in-law!

Rabbi Moshe SHAPIRA of Slavita, son of Rabbi Pinchos SHAPIRA of
Korets, was the son-in-law of Rabbi Yitschok, the Dayan of Polnoo
(now Polonne, Ukraine), who was indeed the father of R' Gedalyo of
Linits.

Rabbi Moshe set up the famous Slavita Press.

Perets Mett
London


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Gedalya of Linitz's Family #rabbinic

Perets Mett <p.mett@...>
 

Earlier today, Yaron Pedhazur <yarpd@...> wrote:

"Mateh Aharon" mentions another detail, which I haven't seen in any
other place (and therefore I doubt it's accuracy): Yitzchak, father
of Gedalya, was son-in-law of Moshe, son of Pinchas SHAPIRA of
Koretz.
Father-in-law, not son-in-law!

Rabbi Moshe SHAPIRA of Slavita, son of Rabbi Pinchos SHAPIRA of
Korets, was the son-in-law of Rabbi Yitschok, the Dayan of Polnoo
(now Polonne, Ukraine), who was indeed the father of R' Gedalyo of
Linits.

Rabbi Moshe set up the famous Slavita Press.

Perets Mett
London


Music from Terezin #austria-czech

Judith Berlowitz <judigenie@...>
 

SIGger residents of the SF Bay Area should know about
an event of the annual Jewish Music Festival: "Tales
from Terezin/A Musical Journey, In memory of Sylvie
Braitman. Violinist Randall Weiss and the Bridge
Players present music originally performed at Terezin
concentration camp, including that of composer Gideon
Klein [Prerov]." The performance is at Cong. Sha'ar
Zahav in San Francisco on Mar. 11. For more
information contact programs@....
Cheers,
Judith Berlowitz
Searching: FR(O)ESCHL - Revnice; FISCHL -
Chrustenice, Morina; GINZBURG - (?); GROENHUT - (?);
KATZ - Dublovice; KLEIN - Chrustenice; KOHN - Teresov,
Morina; LEDERER - Mirosov, Revnice; POLLAK - Morina;
RECHTER - Morina; RICHTER - Koneprus, Liten; WEINER -
Svinare, Zatec


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Music from Terezin #austria-czech

Judith Berlowitz <judigenie@...>
 

SIGger residents of the SF Bay Area should know about
an event of the annual Jewish Music Festival: "Tales
from Terezin/A Musical Journey, In memory of Sylvie
Braitman. Violinist Randall Weiss and the Bridge
Players present music originally performed at Terezin
concentration camp, including that of composer Gideon
Klein [Prerov]." The performance is at Cong. Sha'ar
Zahav in San Francisco on Mar. 11. For more
information contact programs@....
Cheers,
Judith Berlowitz
Searching: FR(O)ESCHL - Revnice; FISCHL -
Chrustenice, Morina; GINZBURG - (?); GROENHUT - (?);
KATZ - Dublovice; KLEIN - Chrustenice; KOHN - Teresov,
Morina; LEDERER - Mirosov, Revnice; POLLAK - Morina;
RECHTER - Morina; RICHTER - Koneprus, Liten; WEINER -
Svinare, Zatec


VS: STEINER/KLAUBER #austria-czech

Jan O. hellmann <jan@...>
 

Sally Man wrote about her family >from Stechovice nearby of Strakonice. So
far I know is Stechovice nearby of Prague on river Vltava/Moldau. This might
be a reason for not finding any traces?

Jan O. Hellmann/DK
Researching HELLMANN;EHRMANN;HELLER; GUTH, SCHULHOF


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech VS: STEINER/KLAUBER #austria-czech

Jan O. hellmann <jan@...>
 

Sally Man wrote about her family >from Stechovice nearby of Strakonice. So
far I know is Stechovice nearby of Prague on river Vltava/Moldau. This might
be a reason for not finding any traces?

Jan O. Hellmann/DK
Researching HELLMANN;EHRMANN;HELLER; GUTH, SCHULHOF


The meaning of "Zwischendecks" #lithuania

Edwin Robert Wilson <ewilson4@...>
 

Dear List:

My cousins >from Kovno came to the U.S. and their passenger manifest
referred to: "zwischendecks"

Does anyone know the exact meaning of "zwischendecks"?

Was it a class of ship's travel more expensive than steerage?

Thank you:
Bob Wilson
Rochester NY


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania The meaning of "Zwischendecks" #lithuania

Edwin Robert Wilson <ewilson4@...>
 

Dear List:

My cousins >from Kovno came to the U.S. and their passenger manifest
referred to: "zwischendecks"

Does anyone know the exact meaning of "zwischendecks"?

Was it a class of ship's travel more expensive than steerage?

Thank you:
Bob Wilson
Rochester NY


Related to Reidbord, Tanner, Kozhevnik,Pamusky?? #lithuania

C Lipman <cslipman@...>
 

If you are related to the Reidbord, Tanner (English
translation of Kozhevnik), Kozhevnik, or Pamusky
families who came >from Lithuania, Poland, or Russia, we
are planning a family reunion in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
on Memorial Day weekend this year. We have located
family members all over the US and in other countries.

If you think you are related to the above families,
and we have not located YOU, please email me.

Corinne Lipman
Cupertino, CA
Researching Kozhevnik, Pamusky, Tanner , Gorodinsky
and spelling variations

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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Related to Reidbord, Tanner, Kozhevnik,Pamusky?? #lithuania

C Lipman <cslipman@...>
 

If you are related to the Reidbord, Tanner (English
translation of Kozhevnik), Kozhevnik, or Pamusky
families who came >from Lithuania, Poland, or Russia, we
are planning a family reunion in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
on Memorial Day weekend this year. We have located
family members all over the US and in other countries.

If you think you are related to the above families,
and we have not located YOU, please email me.

Corinne Lipman
Cupertino, CA
Researching Kozhevnik, Pamusky, Tanner , Gorodinsky
and spelling variations

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.