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Puzzling Hebrew additions #hungary

ethnoca@...
 

I am adding the Hebrew names to a freshly transcribed birth register and I found some things that puzzle me. One is that every once in a while, not too often, they have the word "bachur"added after the name of a newborn boy.

The other thing is added after both the boy's and his father's names at the same occasion. It consists of three letters, samech-gimel-lamed, with a little crown drawn above it. The solution to these little "secret" notes may be a nice addition to the tools of transcribers.

Sarah Feuerstein
Toronto, Canada
Hungary SIG #Hungary Puzzling Hebrew additions #hungary

ethnoca@...
 

I am adding the Hebrew names to a freshly transcribed birth register and I found some things that puzzle me. One is that every once in a while, not too often, they have the word "bachur"added after the name of a newborn boy.

The other thing is added after both the boy's and his father's names at the same occasion. It consists of three letters, samech-gimel-lamed, with a little crown drawn above it. The solution to these little "secret" notes may be a nice addition to the tools of transcribers.

Sarah Feuerstein
Toronto, Canada
Please help check a birth record in Balti 1933 #bessarabia

Susanna Vendel <wendsu@...>
 

Is there any possibility to check a birth record for BALTI 1933 for
the female named Sonia? Parent's name (probably only mother) not
known. Birth period can be January or February but as it is not very
sure it can be other months too of 1933. Place of birth can be Jewish
Hospital of BALTI.

Susanna Vendel
Stockholm
Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Please help check a birth record in Balti 1933 #bessarabia

Susanna Vendel <wendsu@...>
 

Is there any possibility to check a birth record for BALTI 1933 for
the female named Sonia? Parent's name (probably only mother) not
known. Birth period can be January or February but as it is not very
sure it can be other months too of 1933. Place of birth can be Jewish
Hospital of BALTI.

Susanna Vendel
Stockholm
Christine USDIN, z"l #latvia

Ella Barkan <elbarkan@...>
 

Dear Christine, I was totally shocked to hear about you passing away, I can't
yet believe that it is true.

Your generosity, your endless dedication to the huge obligation that you
have taken and shared, your selflessness, the enormous hours of working
tireless and always ready to help and your enthusiasm.

Your hard work was much more then only records translation. Your curiosity
led you to expand the work such as checking today street names and adding
maps to learn where our relatives resided. You added old photos to enrich
visual information and also links to original records and so much more.

We rarely meet in life so special people like you. Only a person with
endless love is able to give so much and help so many to discover their
relatives and thus connect them to their lost past.

There is so much more I could say. Meeting people like you gives hope and
optimism.

Dear Christine, you will always be in my heart. Rest in Peace, dear friend.

Ella Barkan
Tel Aviv
Latvia SIG #Latvia Christine USDIN, z"l #latvia

Ella Barkan <elbarkan@...>
 

Dear Christine, I was totally shocked to hear about you passing away, I can't
yet believe that it is true.

Your generosity, your endless dedication to the huge obligation that you
have taken and shared, your selflessness, the enormous hours of working
tireless and always ready to help and your enthusiasm.

Your hard work was much more then only records translation. Your curiosity
led you to expand the work such as checking today street names and adding
maps to learn where our relatives resided. You added old photos to enrich
visual information and also links to original records and so much more.

We rarely meet in life so special people like you. Only a person with
endless love is able to give so much and help so many to discover their
relatives and thus connect them to their lost past.

There is so much more I could say. Meeting people like you gives hope and
optimism.

Dear Christine, you will always be in my heart. Rest in Peace, dear friend.

Ella Barkan
Tel Aviv
Re: Christine Usdin Passes Away #latvia

Yehuda Horovitz
 

Can anyone get the Hebrew Name of Christine - I benefitted so much >from
her toil
Yehuda Aharon Horovitz
Jerusalem Genealogist

From: Eli Rabinowitz=20
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 00:41:44 +0800
I have read on Facebook with sadness that Christine Usdin
has passed away.
Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Christine Usdin Passes Away #latvia

Yehuda Horovitz
 

Can anyone get the Hebrew Name of Christine - I benefitted so much >from
her toil
Yehuda Aharon Horovitz
Jerusalem Genealogist

From: Eli Rabinowitz=20
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 00:41:44 +0800
I have read on Facebook with sadness that Christine Usdin
has passed away.
Re: Christine Usdin #courland #latvia

Ann Rabinowitz
 

Over the years, Christine Usdin wrote to me about her record
transcriptions, particularly ones related to my Hillman family and those
individuals who were also >from Lithuania and appeared in the Latvian
records. I remember with what delight she produced her transcriptions.
They trickled out day-by-day to those of us who waited with baited breath
for the next group of records.

Christine's fortitude as she plowed through the Russian language records
was remarkable. Every day, I would look forward to her postings and to
her messages to me stating that she had found another of my Uncle Max
Hillman's brothers and their families. She shared with me the
disappointment I felt at never finding anything on my Uncle Max himself,
but that was the reality of genealogical research.

I, in turn, found Usdin records for her in the time-honored way of
genealogical researchers. We discussed what towns she would do next and
what records. This was especially true of the Census records which she
embellished profusely with her artistic creativity. This resulted in
wonderful graphics, photos and maps that went far beyond what was
necessary for producing a simple database. Her transcriptions captured a
singular story, the story of our people and it mattered little that these
records were found in the Latvian Archives for so many other nationalities
were represented there as well.

As time went by and Christine enlarged the scope of her transcriptions and
attempted other projects such as cemeteries, one felt that we were lucky
to have found such an industrious and faithful friend, who reached out and
connected us to our heritage. Her passing then was a great unexpected
loss. One still has the notion to turn to her postings every day and find
there new and exciting discoveries.

I hope that her energy and perseverance will be transmitted to others who
will carry on her work and that her beloved transcriptions will find a
home where all will be able to view them permanently. I know she would
have liked that . . . and so, au revoir Christine!

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...
Latvia SIG #Latvia RE: Christine Usdin #latvia

Ann Rabinowitz
 

Over the years, Christine Usdin wrote to me about her record
transcriptions, particularly ones related to my Hillman family and those
individuals who were also >from Lithuania and appeared in the Latvian
records. I remember with what delight she produced her transcriptions.
They trickled out day-by-day to those of us who waited with baited breath
for the next group of records.

Christine's fortitude as she plowed through the Russian language records
was remarkable. Every day, I would look forward to her postings and to
her messages to me stating that she had found another of my Uncle Max
Hillman's brothers and their families. She shared with me the
disappointment I felt at never finding anything on my Uncle Max himself,
but that was the reality of genealogical research.

I, in turn, found Usdin records for her in the time-honored way of
genealogical researchers. We discussed what towns she would do next and
what records. This was especially true of the Census records which she
embellished profusely with her artistic creativity. This resulted in
wonderful graphics, photos and maps that went far beyond what was
necessary for producing a simple database. Her transcriptions captured a
singular story, the story of our people and it mattered little that these
records were found in the Latvian Archives for so many other nationalities
were represented there as well.

As time went by and Christine enlarged the scope of her transcriptions and
attempted other projects such as cemeteries, one felt that we were lucky
to have found such an industrious and faithful friend, who reached out and
connected us to our heritage. Her passing then was a great unexpected
loss. One still has the notion to turn to her postings every day and find
there new and exciting discoveries.

I hope that her energy and perseverance will be transmitted to others who
will carry on her work and that her beloved transcriptions will find a
home where all will be able to view them permanently. I know she would
have liked that . . . and so, au revoir Christine!

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...
R' Boruch RABINOWICZ ZT"L #rabbinic

Bill Moskowitz
 

Dear Group,
I recently came across a book written by Peska Friedman, called "Going
Forward" describing her childhood, her ultimate escape >from Europe, her
temporary sojourn in "Palestine", and her marriage to Volvi Friedman, of
Agudath Israel fame. It turns out that she was the sister of R' Boruch
RABINOWICZ ZT"L, the previous Munkacher Rebbi. I aso came across a
dissertation by her great grandson:

http://www.kolhamevaser.com/2012/10/miracles-in-the-life-and-thought-of-rabbi-barukh-rabinowicz/
[or http://tinyurl.com/lkac34q --Mod.]

As is clear >from the article there is little love lost between the
chassidim or the current Rebbe and R Boruch and/or his "other" family.

I have been intrigued for many years as to the nature of the split of
the chassidim and first family >from R Boruch and vice versa, as well as
the apparent change of personal ideology of R Boruch.

My hope is that someone in this group can help put together a plan of
attack, or at least offer suggestions as to how to approach the research
of this conundrum.

Thank you

Shmuel Moskowitz
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic R' Boruch RABINOWICZ ZT"L #rabbinic

Bill Moskowitz
 

Dear Group,
I recently came across a book written by Peska Friedman, called "Going
Forward" describing her childhood, her ultimate escape >from Europe, her
temporary sojourn in "Palestine", and her marriage to Volvi Friedman, of
Agudath Israel fame. It turns out that she was the sister of R' Boruch
RABINOWICZ ZT"L, the previous Munkacher Rebbi. I aso came across a
dissertation by her great grandson:

http://www.kolhamevaser.com/2012/10/miracles-in-the-life-and-thought-of-rabbi-barukh-rabinowicz/
[or http://tinyurl.com/lkac34q --Mod.]

As is clear >from the article there is little love lost between the
chassidim or the current Rebbe and R Boruch and/or his "other" family.

I have been intrigued for many years as to the nature of the split of
the chassidim and first family >from R Boruch and vice versa, as well as
the apparent change of personal ideology of R Boruch.

My hope is that someone in this group can help put together a plan of
attack, or at least offer suggestions as to how to approach the research
of this conundrum.

Thank you

Shmuel Moskowitz
Meir Yechiel KAMINER #rabbinic

sbloom@...
 

I am wondering whether anyone could provide me with details of the
biography/family of Rabbi Meir Yechiel KAMINER (born in the late 1700's
and lived in Chenciny, Poland).

I know that the basics of his ancestry are provided in Neil
Rosenstein's Lurie Legacy, so I realize he directly descends (male
line) >from Abraham Gombiner.

I am more interested in knowing about his marriages and/or children.
Did he have more than one wife? Did he have children by more than one wife?
Rosenstein and others only record one marriage to a Teomim-Frenkel.

I strongly suspect that some Levite HALPERN rabbis >from Warsaw have a
connection to him (or another KAMINER/GOMBINER/CEMAH), but am stuck
in finding the details beyond what 19th century records and graves
can tell me.

Thank you.

Steve Bloom
Central Virginia
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Meir Yechiel KAMINER #rabbinic

sbloom@...
 

I am wondering whether anyone could provide me with details of the
biography/family of Rabbi Meir Yechiel KAMINER (born in the late 1700's
and lived in Chenciny, Poland).

I know that the basics of his ancestry are provided in Neil
Rosenstein's Lurie Legacy, so I realize he directly descends (male
line) >from Abraham Gombiner.

I am more interested in knowing about his marriages and/or children.
Did he have more than one wife? Did he have children by more than one wife?
Rosenstein and others only record one marriage to a Teomim-Frenkel.

I strongly suspect that some Levite HALPERN rabbis >from Warsaw have a
connection to him (or another KAMINER/GOMBINER/CEMAH), but am stuck
in finding the details beyond what 19th century records and graves
can tell me.

Thank you.

Steve Bloom
Central Virginia
Video of "A Genealogical Journey to Heritage Citizenship: Reclaiming Historical Rights" by Grant Gochin & handout - JGSLA #lithuania

Pamela Weisberger
 

On Monday, June 17 Grant Arthur Gochin delivered an extraordinarily
informative, and moving, talk on the story of his LItvak family, along
with a valuable history lesson on the Jews of Lithuania for the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Los Angeles entitled:

"A Genealogical Journey to Heritage Citizenship: Reclaiming Historical
Rights" (L'Dor V'Dor - the gift of generations)

Many people wrote to ask if the talk would be videotaped and I'm happy
to let you know that you can now view the presentation, in its
entirely, on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LKgodCyGMI&feature=youtu.be

It is about 90 minutes long. The handout for the talk is here:
http://ggochin.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/collated-handout1.pdf

He will repeat his presentation for the JGSLA in Torrance, CA on
October 28, 2013.

If you have questions about the lecture, you may write to me privately
and I will forward your message to Grant.

Pamela Weisberger
Program Chair, JGSLA
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@...
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Video of "A Genealogical Journey to Heritage Citizenship: Reclaiming Historical Rights" by Grant Gochin & handout - JGSLA #lithuania

Pamela Weisberger
 

On Monday, June 17 Grant Arthur Gochin delivered an extraordinarily
informative, and moving, talk on the story of his LItvak family, along
with a valuable history lesson on the Jews of Lithuania for the Jewish
Genealogical Society of Los Angeles entitled:

"A Genealogical Journey to Heritage Citizenship: Reclaiming Historical
Rights" (L'Dor V'Dor - the gift of generations)

Many people wrote to ask if the talk would be videotaped and I'm happy
to let you know that you can now view the presentation, in its
entirely, on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LKgodCyGMI&feature=youtu.be

It is about 90 minutes long. The handout for the talk is here:
http://ggochin.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/collated-handout1.pdf

He will repeat his presentation for the JGSLA in Torrance, CA on
October 28, 2013.

If you have questions about the lecture, you may write to me privately
and I will forward your message to Grant.

Pamela Weisberger
Program Chair, JGSLA
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@...
LABIN family #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

How does this family trace back to the LABIN family roots??

Moshe (Drohobitcher Rebbe) and Eliezer Lipa Labin, sons of R. Naftali
Labin, Admur Zhidachov-Williamburg. NY

--
Neil Rosenstein
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic LABIN family #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

How does this family trace back to the LABIN family roots??

Moshe (Drohobitcher Rebbe) and Eliezer Lipa Labin, sons of R. Naftali
Labin, Admur Zhidachov-Williamburg. NY

--
Neil Rosenstein
Re: Tests that were made at other companies #dna

Israel P
 

Meantime, FTDNA checked in with their response, saying that they are in
possession of a sample sufficient for additional testing.

Thank you to all who commented.

Israel Pickholtz

On 19 Jun 2013 at 0:05, DNA Testing digest wrote:

I don't think anyone transfers samples. The transferred results that
FTDNA handles are specifically results >from Ancestry.com and
23andMe.com because they use the same Illumina OmniExpress chip as
FTDNA. What you're transferring is a computer file generated >from that
chip, not the sample that it was derived from, thus if an autosomal
test has not yet been done yet, you won't be able to do a new one
unless you can get the original sample >from whatever company did the
test originally. If the original company still has a sample, but
doesn't do autosomal tests (i.e. isn't FTDNA, Ancestry.com, or
23andMe), then your only chance to get an autosomal test done is to
get the original company to give up the sample and send it to FTDNA by
mail. I've never heard of this occurring, but that doesn't mean it
can't happen.
JewishGen Family Finder #general

lrl <biaxial@...>
 

After searching the JGFF database I notice that some of the researchers
are listed by their names and others say only "researcher number xxxxx".
Why is that?

Lee Levin
Tucson, AZ USA
http://norwitz.wordpress.com Norwitz Cousins Club
Researching LEVIN, NORWITZ, MICHELBERG
Looking in Rakitna, Ukraine and Lithuania

MODERATOR NOTE: Most JewishGen resources have explanatory information
in an FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) file or otherwise available. The
JGFF's FAQ file, at <http://www.jewishgen.org/JGFF/FAQ/>, is linked
from the JGFF home page. Section 3.3 "A researcher has no e-mail address"
gives a partial answer, but in section 3.4 there's a link to section 4.5
"What provisions have been made for privacy?" which explains the situation
more fully.
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