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Celia Male
#austria-czech
feising2@...
Dear Siggers,
Recently, there have been some postings wanting to know how our esteemed research colleague, Celia Male is doing. Many of us miss her erudite participation in our SIG, and especially her willingness to help others in their search for answers. Yesterday I had the pleasure of speaking with her and her husband, John, and can report that her condition is unchanged. Celia is paralyzed on the left side of her body and is wheelchair bound. Her speech is normal and her mind is perfectly clear. She has difficulty typing and consequently answers few emails. Understandably, her spirits are low, especially due to the lack of improvement with time. The fact that she cannot participate as before is especially troubling to her. She does read the SIG postings but does not participate. She asked me to express her thanks for the interest shown in her by the various Siggers and wishes everyone good luck with their research. Frank Eisinger Saint James, NY USA
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KNIEZNIK/OGUVCAK of SEVEDNIE
#austria-czech
Kerri Ford
Hello,
I am looking for information about the location of SEVEDNIE, Austria-Hungary. Dora Ford was born there in 1883 and lists her parents as Barbara KNIEZNIK and John OGUVCAK. Any connections to the town or to the names would help. I have reached out to the Hungarian SIG and general discussion group too. Thank you! Kerri Langan - NY, NY
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Meretz burial society
#austria-czech
meretz
David Rosen -
Meretz, meaning Energy in Hebrew, is quite a strange name for a cemetery, or burial society. How was it chosen? Uri Meretz (formerly Maerz), Israel
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Celia Male
#austria-czech
feising2@...
Dear Siggers,
Recently, there have been some postings wanting to know how our esteemed research colleague, Celia Male is doing. Many of us miss her erudite participation in our SIG, and especially her willingness to help others in their search for answers. Yesterday I had the pleasure of speaking with her and her husband, John, and can report that her condition is unchanged. Celia is paralyzed on the left side of her body and is wheelchair bound. Her speech is normal and her mind is perfectly clear. She has difficulty typing and consequently answers few emails. Understandably, her spirits are low, especially due to the lack of improvement with time. The fact that she cannot participate as before is especially troubling to her. She does read the SIG postings but does not participate. She asked me to express her thanks for the interest shown in her by the various Siggers and wishes everyone good luck with their research. Frank Eisinger Saint James, NY USA
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech KNIEZNIK/OGUVCAK of SEVEDNIE
#austria-czech
Kerri Ford
Hello,
I am looking for information about the location of SEVEDNIE, Austria-Hungary. Dora Ford was born there in 1883 and lists her parents as Barbara KNIEZNIK and John OGUVCAK. Any connections to the town or to the names would help. I have reached out to the Hungarian SIG and general discussion group too. Thank you! Kerri Langan - NY, NY
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Meretz burial society
#austria-czech
meretz
David Rosen -
Meretz, meaning Energy in Hebrew, is quite a strange name for a cemetery, or burial society. How was it chosen? Uri Meretz (formerly Maerz), Israel
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technology for oral history recording
#general
Philippa Robinson
I used to record people with a Sony Professional Walkman cassette recorder. I also
had some opportunities to borrow Marantz (cassette)and Uher (reel to reel) recorders. These machines gave very good recordings if used properly. You could attach an external microphone and you could set recording levels to minimise background noise. But tape is replaced now;digital is the thing. What would you recommend for recording interviews? Portability and cost is a consideration but to be balanced with how easy it is to operate (small machines can be very fiddly and controls difficult to see) and how good the recording quality is (though maybe that isnt so variable with digital media?). I would like to be able to record singing and instrumental playing as well although at the moment i'm mainly concerned with people telling their stories. thanks - and I'm sure other people in this forum would benefit >from your suggestions in my case, UK availablility is a must ~ Philippa Robinson MODERATOR NOTE: A discussion about technology is beyond the scope of this forum, as are specific product recommendations. Please respond privately unless your comments are of genealogical interest to the Discussion Group.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen technology for oral history recording
#general
Philippa Robinson
I used to record people with a Sony Professional Walkman cassette recorder. I also
had some opportunities to borrow Marantz (cassette)and Uher (reel to reel) recorders. These machines gave very good recordings if used properly. You could attach an external microphone and you could set recording levels to minimise background noise. But tape is replaced now;digital is the thing. What would you recommend for recording interviews? Portability and cost is a consideration but to be balanced with how easy it is to operate (small machines can be very fiddly and controls difficult to see) and how good the recording quality is (though maybe that isnt so variable with digital media?). I would like to be able to record singing and instrumental playing as well although at the moment i'm mainly concerned with people telling their stories. thanks - and I'm sure other people in this forum would benefit >from your suggestions in my case, UK availablility is a must ~ Philippa Robinson MODERATOR NOTE: A discussion about technology is beyond the scope of this forum, as are specific product recommendations. Please respond privately unless your comments are of genealogical interest to the Discussion Group.
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Re: Images or information on NYC locations
#general
Ron Arons
I concur with other posters regarding images of New York:
- NYC tax photos available at the NYC Municipal Archives - maps.google.com (you have to turn on 'photos' under the word 'traffic' in the upper right hand corner - images available at the NY Public Library. Regarding this solution, the NYPL has many, many photos available online at: digitalgallery.nypl.org . Without too much effort (okay, I made a few attempts to get the right answer) I was able to find (by typing 'Central Park West' into the search field) a few images of the area including: - Image ID 718471F - Manhattan: Central Park West - 73rd Street (1927). This is an view >from the air of this area - ID 1540631 - a map 'bounded by W.74th Street' (the map does include W.76th St) Speaking of maps, I'd also recommend looking at Sanborn (insurance) maps for the area. For more information about Sanborn maps see: http://www.sanborn.com/products/fire_insurance_maps.asp You can order these, but they are awfully expensive. Alternatively, find a library that has Sanborn maps for NYC. ProQuest just recently released its Sanborn Maps GEO Edition, which layers old Sanborn maps on top of Google Maps. This new facility is only available by subscription by your local library, so lobby your library to get this amazing facility (I have no business relationship with ProQuest) For more info, see: http://www.proquest.com/en-US/catalogs/databases/detail/gsm.shtml Ron Arons From: Stuart Ungar<stuartungar@...> I have a WW 1 draft registration card >from my maternal grandfather, Julius Eisenberg. It lists both his place of residence and place of employment at the time. I am wondering if anyone in NYC can give me more information on what the location is like now...Residence - 270 E. 4th Street NYC Place of employment - Gotham Novelty Co., 37 W. 76th Street, NYC
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Images or information on NYC locations
#general
Ron Arons
I concur with other posters regarding images of New York:
- NYC tax photos available at the NYC Municipal Archives - maps.google.com (you have to turn on 'photos' under the word 'traffic' in the upper right hand corner - images available at the NY Public Library. Regarding this solution, the NYPL has many, many photos available online at: digitalgallery.nypl.org . Without too much effort (okay, I made a few attempts to get the right answer) I was able to find (by typing 'Central Park West' into the search field) a few images of the area including: - Image ID 718471F - Manhattan: Central Park West - 73rd Street (1927). This is an view >from the air of this area - ID 1540631 - a map 'bounded by W.74th Street' (the map does include W.76th St) Speaking of maps, I'd also recommend looking at Sanborn (insurance) maps for the area. For more information about Sanborn maps see: http://www.sanborn.com/products/fire_insurance_maps.asp You can order these, but they are awfully expensive. Alternatively, find a library that has Sanborn maps for NYC. ProQuest just recently released its Sanborn Maps GEO Edition, which layers old Sanborn maps on top of Google Maps. This new facility is only available by subscription by your local library, so lobby your library to get this amazing facility (I have no business relationship with ProQuest) For more info, see: http://www.proquest.com/en-US/catalogs/databases/detail/gsm.shtml Ron Arons From: Stuart Ungar<stuartungar@...> I have a WW 1 draft registration card >from my maternal grandfather, Julius Eisenberg. It lists both his place of residence and place of employment at the time. I am wondering if anyone in NYC can give me more information on what the location is like now...Residence - 270 E. 4th Street NYC Place of employment - Gotham Novelty Co., 37 W. 76th Street, NYC
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KNIEZNIK/OGUVCAK from Sevednie
#general
Kerri Ford
Hello,
I am looking for information about the location of SEVEDNIE,Austria-Hungary. Dora Ford was born there in 1883 and lists her parents as Barbara KNIEZNIK and John OGUVCAK. Any connections to the town or to the names would help. I have reached out to Austria-Czech and Hungarian groups too. Thank you! Kerri Langan - New York, NY
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KNIEZNIK/OGUVCAK from Sevednie
#general
Kerri Ford
Hello,
I am looking for information about the location of SEVEDNIE,Austria-Hungary. Dora Ford was born there in 1883 and lists her parents as Barbara KNIEZNIK and John OGUVCAK. Any connections to the town or to the names would help. I have reached out to Austria-Czech and Hungarian groups too. Thank you! Kerri Langan - New York, NY
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Ordering documents from the Polish State Archives
#poland
Steve Gold <plutsk@...>
On October 28 Mark Halpern wrote
"A warning to those who might want to follow Steve's method of payment [which was to send cash through the mail and avoid excessive wire transfer fees]. In my experience with many different regional Archive branches, most (if not all) require payment ONLY by bank-to-bank transfer. You might find some anecdotal exceptions, but recent practice has been that the branches will not accept cash, Western Union, checks, money orders, or other monetary instruments. I even heard anecdotally that one branch would not accept cash on-site as payment. I urge anyone who wants to pay by any means other than bank-to-bank transfer to write the Archive branch and ask if your method is acceptable." Mark's point is well-taken. If I had written to the Torun branch of the PSA seeking permission to send cash, I doubt they would have authorized me to send a $5.00 bill for the two pages, total charge $1.40, that I needed. And it's possible that the person who actually did respond to my request simply pocketed the cash, which would be more an issue for the PSA than for me. But even if my experience fell into the class of "anecdotal exceptions" Mark mentions, it did work in my case; and as I stated originally, the risk was slight. In my day job I'm a government bureaucrat myself, and I would never encourage anyone to seek a "work-around" to OUR policies and procedures. But one of the reasons I like genealogy is that it's my hobby, not my day job! If things in Poland are occasionally a bit more, let's call it "flexible," than they are here, than I don't mind taking advantage of that fact. For those who are uncomfortable coloring outside the lines, the official procedure, with its high attendant costs and more certain outcome, is definitely the way to go. Steve Gold MODERATOR'S NOTE: This thread is ended.
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News about Odessa Kehilalink
#ukraine
Ariel Parkansky
Hello everybody,
I've got some news about the Odessa Kehilalink site. I've just added the Alphabetical index to the Odessa Real Estate Directory of 1902-1903. You'll find it inside the resources page on the research section. There are about 7000 names of families owning real estate in the Odessa Municipal District. Each entry gives the page/s where full information can be found (the full directory it is not included because of its size but I can send a specific page on request) but also indicates the part of the district where the real estate is located (see the notes on the first page of the index). The index have been treated with optical reading and automatic transliteration so there are errors on the base but most family names are correct. You'll find for each page side by side the original image, the transliteration and the optical conversion so you'll be able to check on any possible error against the original. I've also added a transliteration tool in the tools section. There's also a new article on the antisemitism and pogroms in Odessa that I've compiled >from different sources in order to give a global view of the violence against Jews >from the Russian Empire to WWII. Any feedback will be welcomed. Regards, Ariel PARKANSKY Jewishgen, Odessa Town Leader http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/odessa/ (Buenos Aires, Argentina / Paris, France) http://www.thefamilytree.com.ar Kishinev, Tighina: PARKANSKY, LECHNER Kishinev, Calarasi: DUBIN, CHERNIAVSKY, FISMAN Odessa: VAISBEN, HOCHMANN, SCHARTZ Kiev, Odessa, Neporotovo, Podolia: ERLICHMAN, AISENGART Kiliya: SCHWARZBERG Bessarabia, Akkerman, Odessa: GLASS, KERSCHNER, ZEIGNER Chichelnik: ZUKERMAN, LASHOCK Podolia: SITCOF, MONDRIK, LERMAN
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JRI Poland #Poland Ordering documents from the Polish State Archives
#poland
Steve Gold <plutsk@...>
On October 28 Mark Halpern wrote
"A warning to those who might want to follow Steve's method of payment [which was to send cash through the mail and avoid excessive wire transfer fees]. In my experience with many different regional Archive branches, most (if not all) require payment ONLY by bank-to-bank transfer. You might find some anecdotal exceptions, but recent practice has been that the branches will not accept cash, Western Union, checks, money orders, or other monetary instruments. I even heard anecdotally that one branch would not accept cash on-site as payment. I urge anyone who wants to pay by any means other than bank-to-bank transfer to write the Archive branch and ask if your method is acceptable." Mark's point is well-taken. If I had written to the Torun branch of the PSA seeking permission to send cash, I doubt they would have authorized me to send a $5.00 bill for the two pages, total charge $1.40, that I needed. And it's possible that the person who actually did respond to my request simply pocketed the cash, which would be more an issue for the PSA than for me. But even if my experience fell into the class of "anecdotal exceptions" Mark mentions, it did work in my case; and as I stated originally, the risk was slight. In my day job I'm a government bureaucrat myself, and I would never encourage anyone to seek a "work-around" to OUR policies and procedures. But one of the reasons I like genealogy is that it's my hobby, not my day job! If things in Poland are occasionally a bit more, let's call it "flexible," than they are here, than I don't mind taking advantage of that fact. For those who are uncomfortable coloring outside the lines, the official procedure, with its high attendant costs and more certain outcome, is definitely the way to go. Steve Gold MODERATOR'S NOTE: This thread is ended.
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine News about Odessa Kehilalink
#ukraine
Ariel Parkansky
Hello everybody,
I've got some news about the Odessa Kehilalink site. I've just added the Alphabetical index to the Odessa Real Estate Directory of 1902-1903. You'll find it inside the resources page on the research section. There are about 7000 names of families owning real estate in the Odessa Municipal District. Each entry gives the page/s where full information can be found (the full directory it is not included because of its size but I can send a specific page on request) but also indicates the part of the district where the real estate is located (see the notes on the first page of the index). The index have been treated with optical reading and automatic transliteration so there are errors on the base but most family names are correct. You'll find for each page side by side the original image, the transliteration and the optical conversion so you'll be able to check on any possible error against the original. I've also added a transliteration tool in the tools section. There's also a new article on the antisemitism and pogroms in Odessa that I've compiled >from different sources in order to give a global view of the violence against Jews >from the Russian Empire to WWII. Any feedback will be welcomed. Regards, Ariel PARKANSKY Jewishgen, Odessa Town Leader http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/odessa/ (Buenos Aires, Argentina / Paris, France) http://www.thefamilytree.com.ar Kishinev, Tighina: PARKANSKY, LECHNER Kishinev, Calarasi: DUBIN, CHERNIAVSKY, FISMAN Odessa: VAISBEN, HOCHMANN, SCHARTZ Kiev, Odessa, Neporotovo, Podolia: ERLICHMAN, AISENGART Kiliya: SCHWARZBERG Bessarabia, Akkerman, Odessa: GLASS, KERSCHNER, ZEIGNER Chichelnik: ZUKERMAN, LASHOCK Podolia: SITCOF, MONDRIK, LERMAN
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Jewish Deportees: Displaced Persons in the Soviet Union during World War II
#poland
Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
This Nov. 7 lecture in NY may interest some of you.
My in-laws had fled Warsaw and were in Bialystok when the Russians captured it, and where sent to one of these camps because they refused Russian citizenship. http://www.yivo.org/events/index.php?tid=181&aid=869 Rose Feldman Keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general and Jewish and Israeli roots in particular with http://twitter.com/JewDataGenGirl
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JRI Poland #Poland Jewish Deportees: Displaced Persons in the Soviet Union during World War II
#poland
Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
This Nov. 7 lecture in NY may interest some of you.
My in-laws had fled Warsaw and were in Bialystok when the Russians captured it, and where sent to one of these camps because they refused Russian citizenship. http://www.yivo.org/events/index.php?tid=181&aid=869 Rose Feldman Keep up to date on archives, databases and genealogy in general and Jewish and Israeli roots in particular with http://twitter.com/JewDataGenGirl
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Re: Searching WULKAN, Bernhard(t)
#poland
Traude Triebel
Dear Mr. Wulkan
On the site: www.grave-pictures.at you'll find several images >from Wulkan graves, including Bernhard Wulkan, buried in Sankt Poelten, born 1 June 1849, died 11 February 1932; on the same stone are named: Auguste, Ludwig; For Auguste is written; Sterbetag und Sterbeort unbekannt (death date and place unknown, testimony by Nelly Seidler, Santa Monica, USA) In Sankt Poelten are also buried; Feodor, Josefine and Caecilie Wulkan To see the pictures you have to be registered, (free of charge) Good luck Traude Triebel A-2700 Wr. Neustadt Email: traude.triebel@... Web: http://www.family-gruenwald.at/ Web: http://www.grave-pictures.at Betreff: [jri-pl] Searching WULKAN, Bernhard(t) Searching WULKAN, Bernhard(t). I only have sketchy information: Born 1849 in Oswiecim. At some point he emigrated/moved to Vienna/St. Polten. Sons Ludwig and Feodor born in 1880, 1882 in St. Polten. He owned a store in St. Polten--Bernhard and Sohne. Died in 1932 per obit notice in the Neue Freie Presse. So far I have searched the JRI-Poland databases and conducted a comprehensive internet search. I have found no birth records or records relating to his family. I'm seeking information regarding Bernhardt's parents, siblings, and family to trace family tree. Any help, clues, pointers are greatly appreciated. Replies may be sent to me at: dwulkan@.... Best Regards, Dennis Wulkan Seattle, Washington, USA.
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JRI Poland #Poland AW: Searching WULKAN, Bernhard(t)
#poland
Traude Triebel
Dear Mr. Wulkan
On the site: www.grave-pictures.at you'll find several images >from Wulkan graves, including Bernhard Wulkan, buried in Sankt Poelten, born 1 June 1849, died 11 February 1932; on the same stone are named: Auguste, Ludwig; For Auguste is written; Sterbetag und Sterbeort unbekannt (death date and place unknown, testimony by Nelly Seidler, Santa Monica, USA) In Sankt Poelten are also buried; Feodor, Josefine and Caecilie Wulkan To see the pictures you have to be registered, (free of charge) Good luck Traude Triebel A-2700 Wr. Neustadt Email: traude.triebel@... Web: http://www.family-gruenwald.at/ Web: http://www.grave-pictures.at Betreff: [jri-pl] Searching WULKAN, Bernhard(t) Searching WULKAN, Bernhard(t). I only have sketchy information: Born 1849 in Oswiecim. At some point he emigrated/moved to Vienna/St. Polten. Sons Ludwig and Feodor born in 1880, 1882 in St. Polten. He owned a store in St. Polten--Bernhard and Sohne. Died in 1932 per obit notice in the Neue Freie Presse. So far I have searched the JRI-Poland databases and conducted a comprehensive internet search. I have found no birth records or records relating to his family. I'm seeking information regarding Bernhardt's parents, siblings, and family to trace family tree. Any help, clues, pointers are greatly appreciated. Replies may be sent to me at: dwulkan@.... Best Regards, Dennis Wulkan Seattle, Washington, USA.
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