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Re: Questions about 1940 Census Record #hungary

bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
 

Todd Edelman inquired about his cousin appearing on a different page of the
1940 census than her parents.

Note the page numbers. Todd's cousin Selma Siesholtz is enumerated on page
61A and her parents Morris and Rose Siesholtz are on page 6B of Newark ED
25-493. The address 57 Willoughby and family number 131 match. The page
number before 61A is 11B which is blank and the last "regular" page number
is 11A.

Instructions for Enumerators of the 1940 Census stated that the sheet (or
sheets) of the Population Schedule used for households and persons
enumerated out of order was to be numbered 61 (62, 63, etc.), and was to be
placed following the schedules for persons enumerated in regular order. For
an individual enumerated out of order but who was a member of a household
enumerated in regular order, on the line for the individual, the household
visitation number of his household was to be followed by the abbreviation
for continued.

In previous census years, persons enumerated out of order were usually added
at the end of the Enumeration District but the page number followed the last
regular page number.

Bette Stoop Mas
USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Questions about 1940 Census Record #general

bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
 

Todd Edelman inquired about his cousin appearing on a different page of the
1940 census than her parents.

Note the page numbers. Todd's cousin Selma Siesholtz is enumerated on page
61A and her parents Morris and Rose Siesholtz are on page 6B of Newark ED
25-493. The address 57 Willoughby and family number 131 match. The page
number before 61A is 11B which is blank and the last "regular" page number
is 11A.

Instructions for Enumerators of the 1940 Census stated that the sheet (or
sheets) of the Population Schedule used for households and persons
enumerated out of order was to be numbered 61 (62, 63, etc.), and was to be
placed following the schedules for persons enumerated in regular order. For
an individual enumerated out of order but who was a member of a household
enumerated in regular order, on the line for the individual, the household
visitation number of his household was to be followed by the abbreviation
for continued.

In previous census years, persons enumerated out of order were usually added
at the end of the Enumeration District but the page number followed the last
regular page number.

Bette Stoop Mas
USA


Re: Questions about 1940 Census Record #hungary

Carolyn Lea
 

Todd Edelman is asking about a "mistake" on the 1940 census. To
completely understand and get the most >from census records, read the
instructions for enumerators:

https://www.census.gov/history/www/through_the_decades/census_instructions/
[http://tinyurl.com/p6wxqtk - MODERATOR]

In 1940, enumerators made a second sweep to capture those who were not
home or were missed. They were listed at the end of the enumeration
district starting with page 61A, 61B and so on.

Selma was not counted for some reason in the first sweep - she is
correctly listed on page 61A. She is not listed as a daughter to
Joseph John - she is listed as a daughter to the parents living at
household 131 - the number refers to the number of the household in
the order visited.

There was also an attempt made to capture transients. They were
counted on April 8-9. They included people living in hotels,
flophouses, Hoovervilles, etc. They are listed on the pages beginning
with 81A and so on.

If you do not find your family in 1940 check the last pages of the ED.

Carolyn Lea


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Questions about 1940 Census Record #general

Carolyn Lea
 

Todd Edelman is asking about a "mistake" on the 1940 census. To
completely understand and get the most >from census records, read the
instructions for enumerators:

https://www.census.gov/history/www/through_the_decades/census_instructions/
[http://tinyurl.com/p6wxqtk - MODERATOR]

In 1940, enumerators made a second sweep to capture those who were not
home or were missed. They were listed at the end of the enumeration
district starting with page 61A, 61B and so on.

Selma was not counted for some reason in the first sweep - she is
correctly listed on page 61A. She is not listed as a daughter to
Joseph John - she is listed as a daughter to the parents living at
household 131 - the number refers to the number of the household in
the order visited.

There was also an attempt made to capture transients. They were
counted on April 8-9. They included people living in hotels,
flophouses, Hoovervilles, etc. They are listed on the pages beginning
with 81A and so on.

If you do not find your family in 1940 check the last pages of the ED.

Carolyn Lea


Searching for Solomon GOLDSTEIN and Sophie SCHWARZBAUM #general

Carolyn Lea
 

I am searching for any information on Solomon (or Salomo) GOLDSTEIN
and his wife Sophie SCHWARZBAUM, daughter of Isaac SCHWARZBAUM and
Pauline MOZART. She was listed as 28 at the time of marriage and born
in NYC. The couple married in Manhattan, 30 Dec 1888, certificate 667
filed in Jan 1889. They were md at 421 E 52nd St by Rabbi Abraham
NEUMARK who later became the Rabbi of Congregation Orach Chaim.

The marriage certificate lists Wielern, Russian Polon as the place of
birth for Solomon. His parents are listed as Joseph GOLDSTEIN and
Auguste KANTROWERTZ. At the time of the marriage Solomon is listed as
age 28, living at 227 E 74th St. I can not find any additional
information on the couple - I have searched for possible death
certificates in NYC without a match. I cannot find them in a census.

If anyone knows anything of this family or recognizes any of these
names your help would be greatly appreciated. Isaac's line has proved
the hardest to trace of the 4 SCHWARZBAUMS that came to the US around
1850, with Sophie and son, Augustus both MIA after a certain point.

Carolyn Lea (nee Schwarzbaum)
Oklahoma City, OK
leacl7@gmail.com

ID# 152314

Researching: SCHWARZBAUM/SCHWARTZBAUM > Posen, Prussia >New York,
Savannah, GA and Calif. ROTHSCHILD/ROTHCHILD> Zierenberg, Hessen Kassel,
Hamburg? Prussia> Darien and Savannah, GA BASCH>Prussia> Savannah, GA
LEWISOHN/LEVISON Elbing, West Prussia>Brunswick and Savannah, GA
OPPENHEIM(ER) >Hannover>Savannah, GA and South Carolina WEINBERG
Prussia? Hamburg?> Georgia WITKOWSKI/WITMAN > Posen, Prussia > GA, FL, NY
MODERATOR NOTE: "Researching" list abbreviated to 6 lines, in
accordance with JGDG policy.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for Solomon GOLDSTEIN and Sophie SCHWARZBAUM #general

Carolyn Lea
 

I am searching for any information on Solomon (or Salomo) GOLDSTEIN
and his wife Sophie SCHWARZBAUM, daughter of Isaac SCHWARZBAUM and
Pauline MOZART. She was listed as 28 at the time of marriage and born
in NYC. The couple married in Manhattan, 30 Dec 1888, certificate 667
filed in Jan 1889. They were md at 421 E 52nd St by Rabbi Abraham
NEUMARK who later became the Rabbi of Congregation Orach Chaim.

The marriage certificate lists Wielern, Russian Polon as the place of
birth for Solomon. His parents are listed as Joseph GOLDSTEIN and
Auguste KANTROWERTZ. At the time of the marriage Solomon is listed as
age 28, living at 227 E 74th St. I can not find any additional
information on the couple - I have searched for possible death
certificates in NYC without a match. I cannot find them in a census.

If anyone knows anything of this family or recognizes any of these
names your help would be greatly appreciated. Isaac's line has proved
the hardest to trace of the 4 SCHWARZBAUMS that came to the US around
1850, with Sophie and son, Augustus both MIA after a certain point.

Carolyn Lea (nee Schwarzbaum)
Oklahoma City, OK
leacl7@gmail.com

ID# 152314

Researching: SCHWARZBAUM/SCHWARTZBAUM > Posen, Prussia >New York,
Savannah, GA and Calif. ROTHSCHILD/ROTHCHILD> Zierenberg, Hessen Kassel,
Hamburg? Prussia> Darien and Savannah, GA BASCH>Prussia> Savannah, GA
LEWISOHN/LEVISON Elbing, West Prussia>Brunswick and Savannah, GA
OPPENHEIM(ER) >Hannover>Savannah, GA and South Carolina WEINBERG
Prussia? Hamburg?> Georgia WITKOWSKI/WITMAN > Posen, Prussia > GA, FL, NY
MODERATOR NOTE: "Researching" list abbreviated to 6 lines, in
accordance with JGDG policy.


ViewMate Translation Request - German AGAD Vital Records #general

Aaron Slotnik
 

I am seeking translations of two vital records >from the AGAD Archives
that I believe are written in German.

The first is Akt 4, the marriage of my great-grandfather Juda Wolf
BLUMENTHAL. It is on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35195

I am also seeking a translation of Akt 52, the birth of an unknown
male child to my great-great grandparents Juda Hersch SZAPIRA and
Beile KANTER. It is on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35196

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide.

Regards,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL

WOROSHILSKY - Bialystok area, Poland
GOLDBERG - Dabrowa Bialostocka, Poland
ZLOTNIK, RZEZNIK - Warsaw area, Poland
BLUMENTHAL, SCHAPIRA, KANTOR - Husiatyn and Horodenka, Ukraine
BLUM, KATZ, MARTON, ILKOVICH - Salaj and Maramures Counties, Romania


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Translation Request - German AGAD Vital Records #general

Aaron Slotnik
 

I am seeking translations of two vital records >from the AGAD Archives
that I believe are written in German.

The first is Akt 4, the marriage of my great-grandfather Juda Wolf
BLUMENTHAL. It is on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35195

I am also seeking a translation of Akt 52, the birth of an unknown
male child to my great-great grandparents Juda Hersch SZAPIRA and
Beile KANTER. It is on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35196

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide.

Regards,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL

WOROSHILSKY - Bialystok area, Poland
GOLDBERG - Dabrowa Bialostocka, Poland
ZLOTNIK, RZEZNIK - Warsaw area, Poland
BLUMENTHAL, SCHAPIRA, KANTOR - Husiatyn and Horodenka, Ukraine
BLUM, KATZ, MARTON, ILKOVICH - Salaj and Maramures Counties, Romania


ViewMate Translation Request - Hebrew Tombstone #general

Aaron Slotnik
 

I am seeking a full translation of my great-grandmother's matzeva,
including dates if possible. There is partially visible lettering
at the bottom and also something written in small letters in the
decoration at the top - a translation of these is desired if
possible. Her married name was Chava Gitel ZLOTNIK.

The cemetery was destroyed, but this was remarkably recovered and
is now part of the Nowy Dwor Mazowiecki Jewish Memorial.

It is on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35194

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you for any assistance you can provide.

Regards,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL

WOROSHILSKY - Bialystok area, Poland
GOLDBERG - Dabrowa Bialostocka, Poland
ZLOTNIK, RZEZNIK - Warsaw area, Poland
BLUMENTHAL, SCHAPIRA, KANTOR - Husiatyn and Horodenka, Ukraine
BLUM, KATZ, MARTON, ILKOVICH - Salaj and Maramures Counties, Romania


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Translation Request - Hebrew Tombstone #general

Aaron Slotnik
 

I am seeking a full translation of my great-grandmother's matzeva,
including dates if possible. There is partially visible lettering
at the bottom and also something written in small letters in the
decoration at the top - a translation of these is desired if
possible. Her married name was Chava Gitel ZLOTNIK.

The cemetery was destroyed, but this was remarkably recovered and
is now part of the Nowy Dwor Mazowiecki Jewish Memorial.

It is on ViewMate at the following address:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35194

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you for any assistance you can provide.

Regards,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL

WOROSHILSKY - Bialystok area, Poland
GOLDBERG - Dabrowa Bialostocka, Poland
ZLOTNIK, RZEZNIK - Warsaw area, Poland
BLUMENTHAL, SCHAPIRA, KANTOR - Husiatyn and Horodenka, Ukraine
BLUM, KATZ, MARTON, ILKOVICH - Salaj and Maramures Counties, Romania


ViewMate Translation Request--Yiddish #general

Deborah Dworski
 

I have posted five photo postcards to ViewMate, each with a brief
Yiddish message on reverse. I'm hoping proper names are included so
that I can file Pages of Testimony with Yad Vashem. Here are the
links, if you can assist with translation:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35136
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35137
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35138
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35139
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35140

Please respond privately or via ViewMate.

Thank you in advance.

Deborah Dworski
Arlington, VA USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Translation Request--Yiddish #general

Deborah Dworski
 

I have posted five photo postcards to ViewMate, each with a brief
Yiddish message on reverse. I'm hoping proper names are included so
that I can file Pages of Testimony with Yad Vashem. Here are the
links, if you can assist with translation:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35136
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35137
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35138
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35139
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35140

Please respond privately or via ViewMate.

Thank you in advance.

Deborah Dworski
Arlington, VA USA


Re: which Mogilev do I want? #ukraine

Emily Garber
 

June:
The problem you have posed regarding which Mogilev is associated with
your family is a common problem that many Jewish genealogists struggle
with for many towns in Eastern Europe that have matching names. The
reference to Poltava gubernia (as you have noted) is a good indication
that you are on the right track.

Your best bet, at this point, is to collect as much information about
as many immigrant members of the family as possible. Look at siblings,
cousins, aunt and uncles. See if their records provide additional
clues (e.g., gubernia or nearby towns). If your family was associated
with a landsmanshaft in the USA, look at their membership's European
residences.

Search Yad Vashem's Shoah Names Database (
http://db.yadvashem.org/names/search.html?language=en ) using the
family surname to identify which towns with which relatives may have
been associated.

While I would never discourage an Ancestry.com membership, understand
that they have very little information >from Eastern Europe. Most of
the information >from Eastern Europe on Ancestry is taken (by
agreement) >from JewishGen and is free on both JewishGen and Ancestry
(without a paid membership).

Emily Garber
Phoenix, AZ
Media & Communcations Dir., Ukraine SIG
http://www.extrayad.blogspot.com
http://www.kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/yurovshchina/index.html


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: which Mogilev do I want? #ukraine

Emily Garber
 

June:
The problem you have posed regarding which Mogilev is associated with
your family is a common problem that many Jewish genealogists struggle
with for many towns in Eastern Europe that have matching names. The
reference to Poltava gubernia (as you have noted) is a good indication
that you are on the right track.

Your best bet, at this point, is to collect as much information about
as many immigrant members of the family as possible. Look at siblings,
cousins, aunt and uncles. See if their records provide additional
clues (e.g., gubernia or nearby towns). If your family was associated
with a landsmanshaft in the USA, look at their membership's European
residences.

Search Yad Vashem's Shoah Names Database (
http://db.yadvashem.org/names/search.html?language=en ) using the
family surname to identify which towns with which relatives may have
been associated.

While I would never discourage an Ancestry.com membership, understand
that they have very little information >from Eastern Europe. Most of
the information >from Eastern Europe on Ancestry is taken (by
agreement) >from JewishGen and is free on both JewishGen and Ancestry
(without a paid membership).

Emily Garber
Phoenix, AZ
Media & Communcations Dir., Ukraine SIG
http://www.extrayad.blogspot.com
http://www.kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/yurovshchina/index.html


Re: austriaczech digest: August 12, 2014 #austria-czech

marc@...
 

David,
Unless I am mistaken, you can convert a .pdf file to a .jpeg, by saving-as or
simply changing it on your worktop. On a Mac it is easier.

Marc Piel


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: austriaczech digest: August 12, 2014 #austria-czech

marc@...
 

David,
Unless I am mistaken, you can convert a .pdf file to a .jpeg, by saving-as or
simply changing it on your worktop. On a Mac it is easier.

Marc Piel


The Jews in Bytca #austria-czech

lilotmoorman@...
 

Pavel Kral's history of the Jews of Bytca is now available in English.
The complete work can be downloaded >from LULU.com, content ID 150876 18.
(Bytca was formerly in Hungary and then Czechoslovakia, now Slovakia)

Lilot Moorman
lilotmoorman@gmail.com


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech The Jews in Bytca #austria-czech

lilotmoorman@...
 

Pavel Kral's history of the Jews of Bytca is now available in English.
The complete work can be downloaded >from LULU.com, content ID 150876 18.
(Bytca was formerly in Hungary and then Czechoslovakia, now Slovakia)

Lilot Moorman
lilotmoorman@gmail.com


ViewMate -- Polish town identification needed #poland

Fishbein Associates, Inc.
 

Fellow Researchers:

I would like to ask for your assistance in identifying the name of a Polish
town that appears in the 1871 English census. Try as I might, I am unable
to decipher the handwriting in any meaningful way. I have posted the text
in question on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35204.

The name ofthe town that I am interested in is on the first line of the text and
begins with the words: "Poland.R, ?" I require no assistance with the rest
of the text as the handwriting is easily decipherable.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application or directly
to fishnet@pipeline.com.

With much appreciation
Randy
Rand H. Fishbein, Ph.D.
Potomac, Maryland

Towns: FISHBEIN, Warsaw, Poland; SZUMSKI, POWEMBROWSKI, RYNKOWSKI, RECHTMAN,
Augustow, Poland; HARRISON/ROSENBERG, Manchester, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh,
Waynesburg, Pennsylvania.


JRI Poland #Poland ViewMate -- Polish town identification needed #poland

Fishbein Associates, Inc.
 

Fellow Researchers:

I would like to ask for your assistance in identifying the name of a Polish
town that appears in the 1871 English census. Try as I might, I am unable
to decipher the handwriting in any meaningful way. I have posted the text
in question on ViewMate at the following address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM35204.

The name ofthe town that I am interested in is on the first line of the text and
begins with the words: "Poland.R, ?" I require no assistance with the rest
of the text as the handwriting is easily decipherable.

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application or directly
to fishnet@pipeline.com.

With much appreciation
Randy
Rand H. Fishbein, Ph.D.
Potomac, Maryland

Towns: FISHBEIN, Warsaw, Poland; SZUMSKI, POWEMBROWSKI, RYNKOWSKI, RECHTMAN,
Augustow, Poland; HARRISON/ROSENBERG, Manchester, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh,
Waynesburg, Pennsylvania.

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