Date   

Braslav Museum of Regional Historical Studies #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

I learned >from some who I correspond with privately that there
is a "Braslav Museum of Regional Historical Studies.

The director of the museum (Mr. Shidlovsky) writes that they have several
booklets available [in Russian and Belarussian] that he is
willing to send but that he cannot afford to mail them as this would
be prohibitively expensive.

He also indicated that the folks at Kibbutz Lohamei Haghetaot wrote
the Braslav yizkor book.

He says that he knew Noam Amdur, the last Jew of "old" Braslav, that Noam
died this past June and that his sister >from Israel came for the memorial
service.

Mr.Shidlovsky also indicated that he has some lists of
owners of houses >from the 1859 to 1860 time frame. These apparently
include Braslav and surrounding shtetls.

He says that the Jewish population of Braslav doubled during the 19th
century with most newcomers moving in came >from western Kovno guberniya.

Then he writes that an archive in Molodechno, a subarchive of the main
one in Minsk, has 20th century lists of tradepeople and owners of private
enterprises.

**********
Although I personally have no connections with Braslav, I wanted to post
this message for those who have an interest in Braslav and the surrounding
area and also to point out that new sources of "lists" are being uncovered
all the time (as evidenced by the subarchive in Molodechno and the Braslav
Museum) and Belarus researchers who have not yet found what they are
looking
for should never give up!

David Fox
fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD
Belarus SIG Coordinator


Belarus SIG #Belarus Braslav Museum of Regional Historical Studies #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

I learned >from some who I correspond with privately that there
is a "Braslav Museum of Regional Historical Studies.

The director of the museum (Mr. Shidlovsky) writes that they have several
booklets available [in Russian and Belarussian] that he is
willing to send but that he cannot afford to mail them as this would
be prohibitively expensive.

He also indicated that the folks at Kibbutz Lohamei Haghetaot wrote
the Braslav yizkor book.

He says that he knew Noam Amdur, the last Jew of "old" Braslav, that Noam
died this past June and that his sister >from Israel came for the memorial
service.

Mr.Shidlovsky also indicated that he has some lists of
owners of houses >from the 1859 to 1860 time frame. These apparently
include Braslav and surrounding shtetls.

He says that the Jewish population of Braslav doubled during the 19th
century with most newcomers moving in came >from western Kovno guberniya.

Then he writes that an archive in Molodechno, a subarchive of the main
one in Minsk, has 20th century lists of tradepeople and owners of private
enterprises.

**********
Although I personally have no connections with Braslav, I wanted to post
this message for those who have an interest in Braslav and the surrounding
area and also to point out that new sources of "lists" are being uncovered
all the time (as evidenced by the subarchive in Molodechno and the Braslav
Museum) and Belarus researchers who have not yet found what they are
looking
for should never give up!

David Fox
fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD
Belarus SIG Coordinator


Piaski & Zheludok Yizkor Book Translations #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

from the Yizkor Book Project Update Nov. 1, 1998:
During the month of October we put a record-breaking 12 new translations on
our web site at <http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/>. We now have exactly 50
Yizkor Book items on-line. A heartfelt "thank you" to our translation
donors and our HTML volunteers, and a special appreciation to our tireless
Translations Manager, Joyce Field.
* Piaski [Piesk], Belarus - Translation of Necrology from: Pyesk ve-Most;
sefer yizkor (Piesk (Piaski) and Most, a memorial book), transliterated and
donated by Ellen Sadove Renck.

* Zheludok (Zoludek), Belarus - Translation of Table of Contents and
Necrology from: Sefer Zoludek ve-Orlowa; galed le-zikaron (The book of
Zoludek [Zhelodok] and Orlowa; a living memorial), translated by Michael
Bohnen and Ellen Sadove Renck, donated by Ellen Sadove Renck.
If any members of this SIG have translated parts of Yizkor books which
they
would like to share with the Belarus SIG and the Yizkor Book Project,
please
let me know what you have done. If your Yizkor book hasn't been
translated,
you might want to head up an effort to do so.

David Fox
fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD
Belarus SIG Coordinator


Belarus SIG #Belarus Piaski & Zheludok Yizkor Book Translations #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

from the Yizkor Book Project Update Nov. 1, 1998:
During the month of October we put a record-breaking 12 new translations on
our web site at <http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/>. We now have exactly 50
Yizkor Book items on-line. A heartfelt "thank you" to our translation
donors and our HTML volunteers, and a special appreciation to our tireless
Translations Manager, Joyce Field.
* Piaski [Piesk], Belarus - Translation of Necrology from: Pyesk ve-Most;
sefer yizkor (Piesk (Piaski) and Most, a memorial book), transliterated and
donated by Ellen Sadove Renck.

* Zheludok (Zoludek), Belarus - Translation of Table of Contents and
Necrology from: Sefer Zoludek ve-Orlowa; galed le-zikaron (The book of
Zoludek [Zhelodok] and Orlowa; a living memorial), translated by Michael
Bohnen and Ellen Sadove Renck, donated by Ellen Sadove Renck.
If any members of this SIG have translated parts of Yizkor books which
they
would like to share with the Belarus SIG and the Yizkor Book Project,
please
let me know what you have done. If your Yizkor book hasn't been
translated,
you might want to head up an effort to do so.

David Fox
fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD
Belarus SIG Coordinator


Re: LDS and Hungary #general

Seflaum <seflaum@...>
 


I have been told that the mormons have photographed all hungarian
registry records, and that a copy exists both in Salt Lake city and in
Budapest. Does anyone know whther it exists anywhere else ? Israel,
may be. Or Could any one have acess to it without going to Budapest
(or Salt Lake City)
Ilan Kozma
Try contacting Beth Hatefusoth, The Museum of the Diaspora, in Tel Aviv. It
has LDS microfilm on permanent loan at the Goldman Genealogy Center. Also
contact Hungary-SIG for information.

Shirley Flaum
Houston, Texas


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: LDS and Hungary #general

Seflaum <seflaum@...>
 


I have been told that the mormons have photographed all hungarian
registry records, and that a copy exists both in Salt Lake city and in
Budapest. Does anyone know whther it exists anywhere else ? Israel,
may be. Or Could any one have acess to it without going to Budapest
(or Salt Lake City)
Ilan Kozma
Try contacting Beth Hatefusoth, The Museum of the Diaspora, in Tel Aviv. It
has LDS microfilm on permanent loan at the Goldman Genealogy Center. Also
contact Hungary-SIG for information.

Shirley Flaum
Houston, Texas


Re: LDS and Hungary #general

spvolk@...
 

Dear All,
It is my understanding that the library in Fort Wayne, Indiana (yes
Ft.Wayne) has copies of everything or nearly everything >from the Mormons.
They will do searches for a nominal fee via mail.

Shelley Volk


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: LDS and Hungary #general

spvolk@...
 

Dear All,
It is my understanding that the library in Fort Wayne, Indiana (yes
Ft.Wayne) has copies of everything or nearly everything >from the Mormons.
They will do searches for a nominal fee via mail.

Shelley Volk


First World War casualties. #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

The newly-published CR-Rom entitled Soldiers Died in the Great War
(including also Officers Died in the Great War) makes available the names
and details of nearly 700,000 men (including some women) who died while
serving in the British forces. It is possible to locate people by surname
and other characteristics eg regiment, date of death. The publishers make
the point that they have used the originals, published in the early 1920s,
which includes some errors.

I have no connection with the publisher.

Harold Pollins

pollins@globalnet.co.uk


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen First World War casualties. #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

The newly-published CR-Rom entitled Soldiers Died in the Great War
(including also Officers Died in the Great War) makes available the names
and details of nearly 700,000 men (including some women) who died while
serving in the British forces. It is possible to locate people by surname
and other characteristics eg regiment, date of death. The publishers make
the point that they have used the originals, published in the early 1920s,
which includes some errors.

I have no connection with the publisher.

Harold Pollins

pollins@globalnet.co.uk


Re: Baron de Hirsh settlement #general

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

Ron Feldman <medserv@shaw.wave.ca> wrote:

I just found out that my GGrandfather came to Canada under the
auspices of Baron de Hirsh. He origanally went to a town called
Baron de Hirsh, Saskatchewan, which is now called Hirsh. I would
like to know if anyone knows where to find the records of Baron
de Hirsh...
The records of the Baron de Hirsch Fund are at the AJHS,
the American Jewish Historical Society in Waltham, Mass.
See <http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsgb/ajhs.html> for more
information.

Warren

Warren Blatt
Boston, MA
<wblatt@jewishgen.org>


Fall issue of AVOTAYNU #general

GARY MOKOTOFF <VHWC10A@...>
 

The Fall issue of Avotaynu is in the mail. The issue is unusually
large--92 pages rather than the normal 68--because of a 16-page
supplement written by Nancy Arbeiter, CGRS, titled "A Beginner's
Primer in U.S. Jewish Genealogical Research." Nancy has captured
the essence of Jewish genealogical research in a mere 16 pages,
covering such aspects as interviewing, evaluating evidence,
censuses, vital records, immigration records, naturalization papers
and a host of other resources. Even veteran genealogists will find
her article valuable.

Boris Feldblyum demonstrates his wide range of expertise by writing
two articles, one on strategies for breaking through brick walls
and the other a comprehensive history of Russian revision lists.
There are also articles on Jewish given names, Romania, Latvia,
Lithuania, Turkey, "Russian" archives and others.

Gary Mokotoff, Publisher
Avotaynu

Visit our Web site at http://www.avotaynu.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Baron de Hirsh settlement #general

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

Ron Feldman <medserv@shaw.wave.ca> wrote:

I just found out that my GGrandfather came to Canada under the
auspices of Baron de Hirsh. He origanally went to a town called
Baron de Hirsh, Saskatchewan, which is now called Hirsh. I would
like to know if anyone knows where to find the records of Baron
de Hirsh...
The records of the Baron de Hirsch Fund are at the AJHS,
the American Jewish Historical Society in Waltham, Mass.
See <http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsgb/ajhs.html> for more
information.

Warren

Warren Blatt
Boston, MA
<wblatt@jewishgen.org>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Fall issue of AVOTAYNU #general

GARY MOKOTOFF <VHWC10A@...>
 

The Fall issue of Avotaynu is in the mail. The issue is unusually
large--92 pages rather than the normal 68--because of a 16-page
supplement written by Nancy Arbeiter, CGRS, titled "A Beginner's
Primer in U.S. Jewish Genealogical Research." Nancy has captured
the essence of Jewish genealogical research in a mere 16 pages,
covering such aspects as interviewing, evaluating evidence,
censuses, vital records, immigration records, naturalization papers
and a host of other resources. Even veteran genealogists will find
her article valuable.

Boris Feldblyum demonstrates his wide range of expertise by writing
two articles, one on strategies for breaking through brick walls
and the other a comprehensive history of Russian revision lists.
There are also articles on Jewish given names, Romania, Latvia,
Lithuania, Turkey, "Russian" archives and others.

Gary Mokotoff, Publisher
Avotaynu

Visit our Web site at http://www.avotaynu.com


To AOL Subscribers #general

clevie@...
 

I've tried to respond privately to a few messages >from different AOL
subscribers, only to have my e-mails bounce back. Having been on AOL, I
know that it's possible to block messages >from individuals or from
entire groups of service providers. (I did the same thing when I
subscribed in an unsuccessful attempt to avoid the massive amounts of
junk mail.)

So, if you're on AOL and you're not getting many responses >from this
group, check your mail preferences. You may want to "unblock" us and
suffer through the spam!

Carol


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen To AOL Subscribers #general

clevie@...
 

I've tried to respond privately to a few messages >from different AOL
subscribers, only to have my e-mails bounce back. Having been on AOL, I
know that it's possible to block messages >from individuals or from
entire groups of service providers. (I did the same thing when I
subscribed in an unsuccessful attempt to avoid the massive amounts of
junk mail.)

So, if you're on AOL and you're not getting many responses >from this
group, check your mail preferences. You may want to "unblock" us and
suffer through the spam!

Carol


Hinde #general

hekan bengtsson <yvonne.hakan@...>
 

At my mothers tumbstone there its a second name wrote in jewish.A man helpt
me to tranlate it.
It is HINDE.Did anyone know what that means?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hinde #general

hekan bengtsson <yvonne.hakan@...>
 

At my mothers tumbstone there its a second name wrote in jewish.A man helpt
me to tranlate it.
It is HINDE.Did anyone know what that means?


Success Story --TALALAY, Mogilev #general

dardasht@...
 

Dear Jewishgenners:
I told you about a new internet search I recently made. And how I
found a new (to me) TALALAY family living in Palo Alto, California (near
Stanford University, for those interested in such things).
I spoke to the grandmother, who had been in America for about two
years -- the longest conversation she had had in English in those two
years. After a few calls, and receiving some basic information, she
supplied me with the phone number in Moscow of her husband's 92-year-old
aunt who "remembers everything." Her husband knew his grandfather's name
and aunts' names, but really nothing else. So we decided to call Moscow.
I asked a friend, a former Russian immigrant >from Moscow, to call
Aunt Feigel in Moscow. This friend and her daughter had helped me several
years ago, writing letters in Russian to Mogilev for me, and translating
answers for several years. Sveta knows almost as much about the TALALAY
as about her own family at this point!!
My friend Sveta called Moscow and spoke to the elderly woman's
daughter, asking for whatever information she could provide, and they
made arrangements for Sveta to call back in a few days, after the
daughter had spoken with her mother.
Well, after a particularly long day and a congregational meeting,
I received a call >from Sveta at 10 p.m. "Schelly, I think these people
are yours," she said. "They come >from Vorotinschtina, your village
outside Mogilev."
Feigel/Fanya had remembered her grandfather David was a melamed,
a teacher, in the synagogue school in Vorotinschtina "outside Mogilev."
Vorotinschtina was an agricultural colony established in 1830 by
Baron Ginzburg, and populated mostly by TALALAY and related families.
Half our family was >from the colony and the other half in Mogilev,
descendents of Rabbi Leib, a Bet Din member and Talmudic scholar.
Aunt Feigel named her grandfather's children, Boris, Mikhail, and
Leib, the youngest. All these names figure prominently in our family as
well.
She named the 8 children, her siblings, of Boris her father:
Lazar, killed by Stalin in 1937(?), Rahil who died in 1972 in moscow in
her 90s, Rosa who died in 1996 in Boston also in her 90s, Fanya herself,
Yaakov, who was a Russian pilot in WWII, Lova who died in Moscow in WWII,
Abram who died as a young child, and Israel who died in moscow in WWII.
The children of Mikhail: Rosa and Lazar, more information coming on them.
The children of Leib: Zina and Lazar and some information on their
children and more coming.
As you can see, each had a son named Lazar, which (in the way
naming patterns frequent my family) seems to indicate David's father was
Lazar.
We have addresses now, and information will be exchanged, and
photographs copied. The family in California is sending me copies of
photographs with the grandfather Boris and some of the children.
A hint that I have picked up on when speaking with several
families now: When one asks about children/siblings, the answer tends to
be only the ones who are alive now, or who have died recently.
Those who died far in the past are not given, unless you find out
about it in another way. Once I got basic information >from Aunt Feigel, I
called the California family, and the wife did supply me with much more
information on the children of Boris, one by one, the wives, the
children, the circumstances.
When one asks about the wives, which is important also to our
research, the answer tends to be: but they weren't TALALAY.
The moral of this: do internet searches frequently and call
people on the phone -- you may be amazed at what you discover!
We have found what may be the children of David, the son of Rabbi
Leib, about whom we knew nothing, except that he existed. Now we will be
able to find out much more information. By the way, this group of TALALAY
in Moscow arrived very early, Aunt Feigel had no knowledge of any other
groups of TALALAY also in Moscow (but who arrived later). So we are
trying to figure out this puzzle as well.
Best regards to all.
Schelly Dardashti
dardasht@ix.netcom.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Success Story --TALALAY, Mogilev #general

dardasht@...
 

Dear Jewishgenners:
I told you about a new internet search I recently made. And how I
found a new (to me) TALALAY family living in Palo Alto, California (near
Stanford University, for those interested in such things).
I spoke to the grandmother, who had been in America for about two
years -- the longest conversation she had had in English in those two
years. After a few calls, and receiving some basic information, she
supplied me with the phone number in Moscow of her husband's 92-year-old
aunt who "remembers everything." Her husband knew his grandfather's name
and aunts' names, but really nothing else. So we decided to call Moscow.
I asked a friend, a former Russian immigrant >from Moscow, to call
Aunt Feigel in Moscow. This friend and her daughter had helped me several
years ago, writing letters in Russian to Mogilev for me, and translating
answers for several years. Sveta knows almost as much about the TALALAY
as about her own family at this point!!
My friend Sveta called Moscow and spoke to the elderly woman's
daughter, asking for whatever information she could provide, and they
made arrangements for Sveta to call back in a few days, after the
daughter had spoken with her mother.
Well, after a particularly long day and a congregational meeting,
I received a call >from Sveta at 10 p.m. "Schelly, I think these people
are yours," she said. "They come >from Vorotinschtina, your village
outside Mogilev."
Feigel/Fanya had remembered her grandfather David was a melamed,
a teacher, in the synagogue school in Vorotinschtina "outside Mogilev."
Vorotinschtina was an agricultural colony established in 1830 by
Baron Ginzburg, and populated mostly by TALALAY and related families.
Half our family was >from the colony and the other half in Mogilev,
descendents of Rabbi Leib, a Bet Din member and Talmudic scholar.
Aunt Feigel named her grandfather's children, Boris, Mikhail, and
Leib, the youngest. All these names figure prominently in our family as
well.
She named the 8 children, her siblings, of Boris her father:
Lazar, killed by Stalin in 1937(?), Rahil who died in 1972 in moscow in
her 90s, Rosa who died in 1996 in Boston also in her 90s, Fanya herself,
Yaakov, who was a Russian pilot in WWII, Lova who died in Moscow in WWII,
Abram who died as a young child, and Israel who died in moscow in WWII.
The children of Mikhail: Rosa and Lazar, more information coming on them.
The children of Leib: Zina and Lazar and some information on their
children and more coming.
As you can see, each had a son named Lazar, which (in the way
naming patterns frequent my family) seems to indicate David's father was
Lazar.
We have addresses now, and information will be exchanged, and
photographs copied. The family in California is sending me copies of
photographs with the grandfather Boris and some of the children.
A hint that I have picked up on when speaking with several
families now: When one asks about children/siblings, the answer tends to
be only the ones who are alive now, or who have died recently.
Those who died far in the past are not given, unless you find out
about it in another way. Once I got basic information >from Aunt Feigel, I
called the California family, and the wife did supply me with much more
information on the children of Boris, one by one, the wives, the
children, the circumstances.
When one asks about the wives, which is important also to our
research, the answer tends to be: but they weren't TALALAY.
The moral of this: do internet searches frequently and call
people on the phone -- you may be amazed at what you discover!
We have found what may be the children of David, the son of Rabbi
Leib, about whom we knew nothing, except that he existed. Now we will be
able to find out much more information. By the way, this group of TALALAY
in Moscow arrived very early, Aunt Feigel had no knowledge of any other
groups of TALALAY also in Moscow (but who arrived later). So we are
trying to figure out this puzzle as well.
Best regards to all.
Schelly Dardashti
dardasht@ix.netcom.com